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    Re: Lily of the Valley

    Hi Cybervoltage,
    yes i know about it, but their key accords are more artworks than real reconstructions of the smell ( for example the Gardenia key accord ) and i am trying to do it my own way.
    ...
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    Lily of the Valley

    Hi,
    i have created simple lily of the valley base:

    20 Lyral
    20 Farnesol
    40 Hydroxycitronellal
    5 linalool


    but now i need something fresh/stem/green ( middle/base note ). I have tried...
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    Sampaquita - substantivity

    Hi,
    i am playing with Sampaquita ( Givaudan ) , but the substantivity is max 2 hours :( I have tried to add musks ( Galaxolide, Habanolide ) and Hedione with little or no effect on substantivity of...
  4. Thread: Civet paste

    by Milhaus
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    Civet paste

    Hi,
    please i am looking for small amount of civet paste to make my own civet tincture. Please have you any tip for a source of cheap civet paste ?
  5. Re: Jasmine flower accord , cis jasmone, methyl jasmonate

    OK thank you very much. I have found it very cheaply on perfumersapprentice shop, so i will order it soon.
  6. Jasmine flower accord , cis jasmone, methyl jasmonate

    Hi,
    please how important is cis jasmone and methyl jasmonate in jasmine accords ? I have tried to add upto 4% methyl jasmonate ( which is nearly odourless to my nose ) to my jasmine flower accord....
  7. Thread: Samsara

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    Samsara

    Hi,
    i am trying to create fragrance similar to Samsara. I have started with heavy dose ( 40% ) of Chris Bartlett Sandalwood blend accord which is exceptionally rich and fine. Then i have added...
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    Oshadhi rose absolute

    Hi ,
    please does anyone use this rose absolute in perfumery ?

    http://www.oshadhi.co.uk/rose-absolute-rosa-damascena/
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    Re: Irival longevity

    OK now i understand,
    i did it once again with 100% Irival. The strength was strong for about 3 hours, then become weaker and weaker and after 5 hours i dont smell Irival at all. I did small 5min...
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    Re: Irival longevity

    Thanks David,
    BTW the substantivity 40+ is for undiluted stuff ? I am using 1% solution. Maybe 100x0.5hours=50 hours....or i am wrong ? So Irival at recomended concentration ( upto 3% in concetrate...
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    Irival longevity

    Hi,
    i am playing with Irival at 1% strength ( ethanol ) and it is very lovely strong orris note , but after 30-40minutes the smell completely disappear from the strip.I have thought Irival is base...
  12. Thread: Coumarin

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    Coumarin

    Hi,
    i am playing with chypre accords and i have found my coumarin does have distinctive medicinal/spicy note which i dont like. Maybe i have bad quality coumarin ?
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    Re: Cold Orris Ideas

    Hi Nizan ,
    try Irival.
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    Labdanum resinoid in chypre perfume

    Hi ,
    i have old chypre formula which does contain labdanum resinoid. I have only Labdanum ( cistus ) distilled oil ( old wood / ambery odour) and Labdanum absolute (leather/sweet semi-liquid oil )....
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    Re: Orris Root Absolute

    Yes i agree , there is Orris root absolute ( very expensive - clear liquid - my source 50$/ml ), orris butter ( waxy yellow solid - 10$/ml ) , orris resinoid ( brown semi - liquid 5$/ml ). Each of...
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    Re: Orris Root Absolute

    Orris root absolute is used in very low concentrations ~ 0.01% - 0.1% . It does act as modifier / exalting agent. You need to create iris accord ( using alpha, beta, dihydro beta , methyl ionones...
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    woody floral perfume base

    Hi,
    I don't know if it's a good idea to start creating perfume from base notes only, but here is my simple floral woody perfume base. Maybe it will be usefull for any beginners like me :)

    5...
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    Re: Mysterious gift in mail?

    From what i know Aramacs sell sandalwood FRAGRANCE/synthetic oil only.
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    Re: orris root note

    Thanks Paul,
    i know this accord. This is Iris flower accord. Orris note is made here with alpha-isomethyl ionone (i am using gamma), alpha ionone and alpha irone. Maybe i am anosmic to these...
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    Re: Hedione and Sandalwood

    Hi Nizan,
    after one year i have found most of aromachemicals i have bought from PerfumersWorld are poor quality. I have lost plenty of money and time ( blending accords ). I dont know if the quality...
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    orris root note

    Hi,
    i am trying to create sweet orris root note ( towards orivone, orris resinoid ) for my violet perfume. I have tried alpha irone, dihydro ionone beta, methyl ionone gamma, orris givco and...
  22. Re: How to built a Chypre ( Mitsouko direction) accord.

    In older formula is often mentioned Oakmoss absolute ( Camilli ). Dominique Camilli of Molinard is perfumer.
  23. Re: How to built a Chypre ( Mitsouko direction) accord.

    I dont see any cinnamon note mentioned on fragrantica http://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/Guerlain/Mitsouko-Eau-de-Parfum-25316.html
  24. Re: How to built a Chypre ( Mitsouko direction) accord.

    I dont see any amber note ...
    BTW what does mean Portugal deterpené 10%...?
  25. Re: How to built a Chypre ( Mitsouko direction) accord.

    That is probably orris absolute. This is very strong orris note. Orris butter give more floral/waxy note. I have thought 7% of oakmoss is strooong - i am using only 3% in my Mitsouko version. 10% of...
  26. Re: How to built a Chypre ( Mitsouko direction) accord.

    Renegade do you mean orris absolute or orris butter ? The orris note is made here with methyl ionone ( gamma will be stronger ), but we need to support it with orris butter or orris absolute to make...
  27. Re: How to built a Chypre ( Mitsouko direction) accord.

    I am using 3% of methyl iso eugenol. But i have never smelled vintage Mitsouko :(
  28. Re: How to built a Chypre ( Mitsouko direction) accord.

    Hi,
    i am trying to improve Mitsouko formula posted above. I have replaced Ethyl cinnamate with cinnamic alcohol - IMHO it does fit better in lilac heart and with amber base. I have added...
  29. Thread: Hekserij

    by Milhaus
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    Hekserij

    Hi,
    i will be ordering soon from EU version of this shop. I am interested also in their Bergamot FCF EO , but it is available only in the Netherland version of this shop. I have contacted them...
  30. Thread: Muscenone

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    Re: Muscenone

    Here in EU sell Muscenone Hekserij in small amounts.
  31. Thread: Beta ionone

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    Re: Beta ionone

    This could explain why i am not able to prepare nice violet accord :) I cannot get ionones/methyl ionone from Givaudan, so i will try to buy them from Hekserij ... hope the quality will be better.
  32. Thread: Pipettes

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    Re: Pipettes

    37,96 € for one pipette is too much, the price is for whole package ( 1000pcs )

    Milos
  33. Thread: Beta ionone

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    Re: Beta ionone

    BTW i have beta ionone from perfumersapprentice. It is very strong to me ( biting my nose like fresh horseradish :) )
  34. Thread: Beta ionone

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    Re: Beta ionone

    at 10% dilution:

    alpha ionone ( pure ) - 3 times stronger than alpha irone
    beta ionone - 4 times stronger than alpha ionone

    are you talking about pure alpha ionone or about alpha ionone...
  35. Thread: Beta ionone

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    Re: Beta ionone

    Hi Pears,
    i will try to answer your question, but it is hard to compare them beacuse each ionone smell different and everybody is more or less sensitive to them:

    beta ionone is strongest
    dihydro...
  36. Thread: Lorexon ?

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    Re: Lorexon ?

    http://www.fragrantica.com/notes/Lorenox-544.html
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    Re: Search recipes or formula of disigner

    Hi,
    does anyone know formula of Ambra (Amb 3, comb) ? I guess it is blend of Labdanum + Benzoin + other resinoids + ambroxan/ambergris ?

    Milos
  38. Thread: Beta ionone

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    Re: Beta ionone

    Hi David,
    please what do you mean with quality methyl ionone ( something like methyl ionone gamma 95% ) ?
  39. Thread: Beta ionone

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    Beta ionone

    Hi,
    does anyone know how much beta ionone is used in any good Violet soliflore perfume ? I am trying to create chypre violet soliflore and i have started with 3% beta ionone, but such amount seems...
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    Re: Candle fragrance

    Finnaly i have settled on simple blend of methyl iso eugenol, cinnamic aldehyde, coumarin, small amount of oakmoss ( nice natural sweet/woody/mossy background for spices ) and olibanum.
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    Re: Candle fragrance

    Thanks for the tips !
    hope i will get small amount of orange givco till Christmas :) . I am now playing with fir balsam in this blend ...
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    Candle fragrance

    Hi,
    i am now trying to prepare my first christmas candle fragrance.
    I have just started with cinnamic aldehyde, vanillin, orange oil, clove oil. It is good idea to add ~5% Hedione to improve...
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    Re: Perfumer's World

    Hi ,
    be carefull, quality of aromachemicals from PFW is sometimes bad ( lower purity ).


    Milos
  44. 2,6 nonadienal ( cucumber aldehyde ) in Arranging Fine Perfume Compositions - Brechbill

    Hi,
    i am playing with Brechbill chypre formulae in his book http://www.perfumerbook.com/Arranging%20Fine%20Perfume%20Compositions%20-%20The%20Chypre's.pdf . He does use "nonadienal" at 0.01%...
  45. Thread: Centifolether

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    Re: Centifolether

    Hi Chris,
    could you dig the accords please ?
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    Odour thresholds

    Hi,
    please is there any odour threshold database ? I am looking for odour thresholds of hydroxycitronellal and Lyral.
  47. Thread: Rose accord

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    Re: Rose accord

    Hi,
    i have got small sample directly from chinese company. Their price is 390USD / kg EXW. This is IMHO very good price, but i am not sure about shipping costs and import taxes... Maybe is here any...
  48. Thread: Rose accord

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    Re: Rose accord

    Hi,
    natural PEA just arrived. In comparison to synthetic PEA from PFW is MUUUCH better - sweeter, richer without harsh mettalic-green note. Even my untrained nose smell the difference !!!

    It is...
  49. Thread: Centifolether

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    Centifolether

    Hi,
    please have you any example of rose accord with Centifolether ? It does smell like complete rose top note containing spicy eugenol, fruity damascones and green notes .. is it really only one...
  50. Thread: Rose accord

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    Rose accord

    Hi, am now playing with rose accords, but i am not able to create nice rose base ( probably due bad quality of PEA ? ). My current rose accord does look like this ( i like sweet fresh fruity rose ):...
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    Re: Rose essential oil ?

    Anyone know why rose otto does not smell like real flower ? It is due missing "top notes" - exactly PEA, geranyl acetate, rose oxide and maybe geraniol ?

    Milos
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    Re: Alpha-Irone source?

    Alpha irone act as modifier, it does not smell too much alone. It must be combined with something other to see the effect.
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    Re: Old wood accord

    Nutmeg oil just arrived. It makes the accord much better ( warm aromatic precious old wood note )

    5 vertofix
    4 mahagonate
    1 cedarwood oil virginian
    1 sandalwood EO
    1 nutmeg oil ( maybe...
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    Re: Newbie + Chypre = Adventure

    http://books.google.cz/books?id=RCv2cXUiE_0C&pg=PA244&dq=lilac+1151&hl=cs&sa=X&ei=fuYaVJTVFOO7ygOS3oKgCA&ved=0CB8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=lilac%201151&f=false
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    Re: Old wood accord

    OK here is my accord:

    5 vertofix
    4 mahagonate
    1 cedarwood oil virginian
    1 sandalwood EO

    i dont have nutmeg oil, but it will be good addition ( i have just smelled nutmegs in our kitchen :)...
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    Re: Newbie + Chypre = Adventure

    No i dont have original perfume to compare. I am sorry i have not tried Lilac accords from his book, but try Lilac, no. 1151
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    Re: Old wood accord

    I have just received Mahagonate... wonderfull tip Paul ! Dank woody sawdust scent with resin nuance, very diffusive. I need to use it in chypre instead of common woody note ( vetiver patchouli...
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    Re: Newbie + Chypre = Adventure

    Thanks for sharing !
    I have tried to create this chypre several times and here is my experience:

    Benzoin Resinoid ( Siam / Sumatra ? ) - I have tried both, Sumatran is IMHO better
    Patchouli - I...
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    Re: Formula for Lily (Lys) Accord ?

    I have just completed Poucher Madonna Lily 1062 and i agree with David. para Cresyl Phenylacetate is one of the key ingredients ( narcotic sweet phenolic note ) . I have skipped Phenylethyl...
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    Re: Old wood accord

    Thanks guys,
    i dont have vertofix / cedryl acetate, but maybe vetiveryl acetate + cedarwood oil + iso e super + little amount of okoumal, sandalwood, patchouli and mahagonate will work .......
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    Old wood accord

    Hi,
    i am looking for old wood accord or hints how to create smell of very old wood furniture.
  62. Thread: Ambreine

    by Milhaus
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    Re: Ambreine

    Thank you David, this explain why i have not observed exalting or smoothing effect of Civet CNC.Civet CNC does work for me only as fixative adding unpleasant "fecal" note. I have not smelled real...
  63. Thread: Ambreine

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    Re: Ambreine

    Hi,
    i have smelled Ambreine 1 accord after one week of aging and i have found 1% of Civet CNC is too much ! I think Civet CNC is much stronger than real Civet absolute. I guess 0.05-0,1% could be...
  64. Thread: Violet

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    Violet

    Hi ,
    i have found yesterday a big clump of blooming Viola odorata plant ( due crazy weather this summer they are flowering second time ) . I have picked up some of them to compare with my violet...
  65. Thread: Ambrene 50?

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    Re: Ambrene 50?

    i think Ambrene enhance Ambrarome / Cetalox to create synthetic Ambergris note.
  66. Thread: Ambrene 50?

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    Re: Ambrene 50?

    Thanks,
    that is next ambreine accord in this week, i am wondering there is 20% of bergamot and only 2.5% labdanum. I think you can also try to replace this accord in appel formula with Ambreine 1...
  67. Thread: Ambreine

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    Re: Ambreine

    Thanks,
    i am now preparing it !

    Milos
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    sandalwood/musk attar

    Can you please advise what musk i should use to support sandalwood in simple attar ?

    I am now trying these musks .
    Ambrettolide
    Musk ketone
    Cosmone
    Deer musk - syntehtic from Arcadi ( auram )...
  69. Re: How to built a Chypre ( Mitsouko direction) accord.

    Thanks Chris,
    i love chypre perfumes, so i have created ( with modification ) the Mitsouko perfume you have posted. This is my first perfume which really smell good. I have lowered patchouli to...
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    Re: Benzyl Acetate Harshness

    Hi ,
    buy jasmine absolute replacement :
    Sampaquita:
    http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/p-5967-sampaquita-g-jasmine-sambac.aspx?keyword=sampaquita

    I have just ordered this jasmine replacement...
  71. Thread: Violet No.2

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    Violet No.2

    Hi,
    i am trying to prepare Violet No.2 , but i think there is typo:...
  72. Thread: Cinnamylal

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    Re: Cinnamylal

    Thanks !
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    Peru balsam tincture

    please have you any idea how to replace IFRA restricted peru balsam tincture ?
  74. Thread: Cinnamylal

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    Cinnamylal

    Hi,
    please what is Cinnamylal in this Violet formula:...
  75. Thread: Sweet ionone

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    Re: Sweet ionone

    OK now i understand :) thanks
  76. Thread: Sweet ionone

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    Sweet ionone

    Hi,
    please what is the sweetest ionone ? From i have here - alpha, beta and methyl ionone 70%,methyl ionone 90% and dihydro beta ionone is the methyl ionone 70% the sweetest one.
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    Re: Input on making a green floral scent?

    try something like this - i have not smelled it yet:

    Lyral : 3.00
    Hedione : 10.00
    Iso E Super : 10.00
    Galaxolide : 10.00
    Methyl Ionone, alpha-iso- : 10.00
    Linalool/rosewood : 5.00
    Amyl...
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    Re: Input on making a green floral scent?

    Lyral for example
  79. Thread: Orris resinoid

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    Orris resinoid

    Hi,
    i am looking for content analysis of Orris resinoid.
  80. Thread: Alpha irone

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    Alpha irone

    Hi,
    i have just received alpha irone from PerfumersWorld, but i am little puzzled with the smell. The smell is weak ( my Orris butter with 3% irones is much stronger ) reminiscent dry alpha methyl...
  81. Re: Methyl heptine carbonate methyl octine carbonate

    Please how much Undecavertol can i use to replace 0.5% M.H.C. ?
    IFF Methyl Octine Carbonate Replacer 0912 is very hard to get like Parmone which i cannot find anywhere.
  82. Re: Methyl heptine carbonate methyl octine carbonate

    Thanks David they probably forget to add dilution ( 5% of 10%M.H.C. sound much better )
  83. Methyl heptine carbonate methyl octine carbonate

    Hi,
    i need to replace M.H.C.( 5% in formula ) with M.O.C. in one old formula , but i have no clue how strong is M.H.C in comparison to M.O.C.
  84. Thread: Jasmin 50

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    Re: Jasmin 50

    Thanks,
    i have checked Bois de Iles formula and i have nearly everything except true sandalwood EO ( 14% sounds pretty much, also with vetiveryl acetate at the same concentration ). I will try to...
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    Re: home made Molecule 01

    Hi,
    i have just compared Timbersilk with ISO E super... Timbersilk is IMHO strong harsh woody note piercing my nose and i dont like it in higher concentrations( >1%). ISO E super is nice...
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    Re: Living Jasmine Accord

    Hi,
    PerfumersWorld supply linalool( linalool with citrus and woody notes ) and linalool synthetic ( pure linalool smell ) and they have also Ho oil ( but i afraid the camphor note will kill the...
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    Neryl - Geranyl acetate

    Hi,
    is there a difference between neryl and geranyl acetate ?
  88. Thread: Jasmin 50

    by Milhaus
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    Re: Jasmin 50

    Thanks,
    i am now trying to prepare 5 different Appell formula i have selected ( Evening in Paris, Femme, Cabochard, Je Reviens, Fleurs d Amour ). Anyone have tried to prepare them ? They are mostly...
  89. Thread: Jasmin 50

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    Re: Jasmin 50

    Hi Paul,
    because i dont have formula :) Where could i find it ( i dont have whole book ) ?
  90. Thread: Jasmin 50

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    Jasmin 50

    Hi,
    please what can be used to replace Jasmin 50 ( appell formula ).
  91. Thread: Chypre

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    Chypre

    Hi,
    please i am looking for any IFRA compliant chypre base formula ...
  92. Thread: Musk ketone

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    Re: Musk ketone

    OK i will stay away from such high concentration. I think it is very difficult to prove that Chanel No 5 triggered cancer ...
  93. Thread: Musk ketone

    by Milhaus
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    Musk ketone

    Hi,
    i am trying to prepare old perfume with 4% of musk ketone. Please it is safe to use such amount of musk ketone (for private use) in perfume ?
  94. Thread: Deer musk pods

    by Milhaus
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    Re: Deer musk pods

    I have just tried synthetic Deer musk from Auram ( Arcadi ).Smelling directly from bottle: I dont know if i love it or hate it - it does smell fecally, but with something sweet and pleasant. Even...
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    Re: How to create rose soliflore

    Thanks Paul,
    i would like to try this accord ( i think it is worth a try ), but i dont have currently neryl acetate and Liffarome. It will be fine to have something different than commercial...
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    Re: How to create rose soliflore

    Thanks !

    i have just started with this formula:

    10 Dorinia SA E
    1 Rose de Mai
    1 Rose Otto
    3 PEA
    3 geranium oil Bourbon - for freshness
    5 ambrettolide
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    Re: Orris Root CO2 solubility

    Thanks :) ,
    i have cheap sources of orris root CO2 3%irones ( 20€/10g ) and alpha irone for around 40€/10g.
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    Re: Orris Root CO2 solubility

    I will answer myself: 50% concentration of Orris root CO2 (3% irones) with IPM does work well.
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    How to create rose soliflore

    Hi,
    i would like to create rose soliflore perfume, but i have no clue how to start....

    My first idea:
    around 4% rose otto + rose de mai
    ?% syntehtic rose ( i have Dorinia SA E i have no clue...
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    Re: Velvione killing my vetiver

    Hi i dont have any experince with Velvione but i have similar experience with Galaxolide which mask woody top notes.
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