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  1. Thread: Bleach note

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    Re: Bleach note

    brilliant!
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    Re: Eremiphilone class

    I watched this video today, might interest you.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck0svtev2c8


    And if you can be in Los Angeles / Long Beach, CA, you can come to this for free, and meet them in...
  3. Thread: Bleach note

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    Re: Bleach note

    Of course, I am not so aware of Chlorine reacting with things, I've never used it before...
    I was mostly thinking of a fragrance shared at the Experimental Scent Summit, last May, when I went to...
  4. Thread: Bleach note

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    Re: Bleach note

    Chlorine and Adoxal?
  5. Thread: Mossy chemicals

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    Re: Mossy chemicals

    Wintergreen and Birch are nearly 100% Methyl Salicylate, ~ very minty
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    Re: Gucci Pour Homme 2003

    It's a pretty complex perfume.
    Has natural and synthetic Sandalwood, and captives. Guaiacwood, Cedar Atlas, Patchouli, and possibly/probably touches of Mimosa Absoulte and Turkish Rose Absolute. ...
  7. Thread: Pine Note

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    Re: Pine Note

    Does anyone know the primary long lived Little Trees car freshener odor molecule, by chance?
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    Re: Advantages of working undiluted?

    I've not made it a practice to dilute all of my materials, because, as you mention, it will multiply bottles and space needed, both.
    Of course, somethings do get diluted, because they are so strong....
  9. Re: methyl pamplemousse (grapefruit note) review

    This seems a little like the thread should be in the single notes area...???
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    Re: Yes... its an Aventus inspired formula

    https://perfumersupplyhouse.com/product/ethyl-24-decadienoate-aka-pear-ester/
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    Re: Yes... its an Aventus inspired formula

    Well HOT DIGGITY DOG!

    I'm excited for you... ;-)

    HAVE FUN!
  12. Re: Any advice for getting that Sharp, Thin, Zingy quality to my homemade fragrance?

    No, I'm afraid there is no book of GC results out there to buy.
    But there are Perfumers with GC libraries to peruse and ask to purchase these GC results so that you can learn from them.
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    Re: Yes... its an Aventus inspired formula

    Great Bergamot is great, and several orders of magnitude better than every day bergamot.
    I settled on getting mine from Albert Vielle.

    Petitgrain is the same, keep sampling and find the one...
  14. Re: Any advice for getting that Sharp, Thin, Zingy quality to my homemade fragrance?

    MANY perfumes have alpha pinene, terpinene, terpineol, tiny bits of citral, eucalyptol, vanoris, all tippy toppy molecules that makes that snap upon first application. Have you studied any real gc...
  15. Re: Thread about less known or not so usual ideas about creating perfumes

    Even when you do have thousands of Perfume Formulas...(I do) well, it's just not really possible to be able to collate, analyze, compare, and have as much analytical capacity with those formulas as...
  16. Re: Looking for non musk/woody amber base note ideas

    The maple syrup smell is my favorite version of Immortelle, (that's Corsican, BTW) but there are numerous Immortelle materials versions, both absolute and EO that do not possess the Maple Syrup note....
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    Re: Mango leaf absolute (and friends)

    Mango Leaf Absolute is probably my favorite product coming out of Fahkry. I'd like to get some, if someone makes a buy.
  18. Thread: How to compose?

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    Re: How to compose?

    And then, I think Septime is understating things... LOL! but then, I have strong opinions.
    You can read my thoughts on this thread, about THAT place:...
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    Re: Advice on formula

    Teeb, I can't stand Cedar Atlas. I've given away nearly all my stock. I only use if a formula calls for it.
    I'd much rather use any other cedar first. So dont feel bad about it...
  20. Re: Does anyone remember muscenone split of about 2012?

    108430
  21. Re: Does anyone remember muscenone split of about 2012?

    It was at the time, simply Muscenone, as it says on the product listings for Delta Muscenone. So, it's now at both PA and PSH.
  22. Re: Safety assessment and insurance for US based perfume brand

    Why don't you call me... I'm in the Pacific Time zone, outside Los Angeles.
    check your PM.
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    Re: Advice on formula

    So, that makes this:


    Pink Pepper (unrectified) 1.458

    13.06%


    Italian Lavender 0.74
  24. Firmenich Oud Samples from "Sharing Innovation 2018"

    It was nice of Firmenich to send out their samples, their Sharing innovation 2018 samples, with their ouds in it.
    And even though it's a 1% in TEC dilution, they did even send a sample of their...
  25. Thread: How to compose?

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    Re: How to compose?

    108354
  26. Thread: Sublime Vanille

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    Re: Sublime Vanille

    I can't really say about a tincture. you may not know this, but I loathe/detest/hate Vanilla, due to the overuse of Vanillin, literally, everywhere.
    With that said, I've just been working on a...
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    Re: Incorrectly named "Aldehydes"

    Hey, the graphic started as a page from a document, that showed Frutarom's products, all name such. I added the real names.. and other notes.
    You've added to my/our knowledge here, thanks so much!...
  28. Thread: Sublime Vanille

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    Re: Sublime Vanille

    I've no knowledge of the fragrance, but are you asking *what vanilla is in the top? As you mention, Vanilla/Vanillin is a bottom note.

    Are you asking about what other material can be used to...
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    Re: Perfumerslab.com -- Small beginnings

    JHL, I wanted to write, since this is the fourth type of software approach to come through BN DIY forum, in several years, and my past enthusiasm and involvement all ended up without a usable...
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    Re: Bran absolute supplier in the US

    No.
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    Re: Tea note in green Irish tweed

    Galbanolene Super is $380/kg, direct from Firmenich,

    If I were to order it, I'd need 9 other people to divide it up at 100g each.
    I'm not going to make a zillion 15g bottles.
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    Re: Cardamom linear?

    Yes, Agree, would start with Cardamom Abs.
    I've been unable to find a GC for Card Abs though, so I can't say what makes it up.
    The CO2 is by far, the very lightest of all the extractions.
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    Re: Bran absolute supplier in the US

    if you can't find it elsewhere, I'd go with Sunrose, as above.
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    Re: Tea note in green Irish tweed

    GIT is actually a pretty simple / inexpensive formula.
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    Re: Any suppliers who have ripped you off?

    Buying products from India, should be interesting and exciting, but indeed, it is fraught with fraud and misery.

    Have good suppliers to recommend? Well, by all means, spill the beans!
  36. Re: Nooby: Greenish Home-Frag/Roomspray attempt with limited ACs

    Don't let George's post stomp on your learning and your enthusiasm. LOL! you surely bought those materials because they sounded interesting from research. So, now, learn those materials well,...
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    Re: Additives to increase projection?

    Very good, your answer means great encouragement for you. Enjoy the path and the journey!
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    Re: Geranyl Isovalerate

    Hi, when I got my tank filled with argon a few years ago, it didnt seem like there was any big price difference to most other gasses... the cost of the gas seemed minuscule compared to the tank,...
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    Re: Geranyl Isovalerate

    Great idea... inert gas works for many things...
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    Re: Additives to increase projection?

    If you're going to stomp on it to keep it down, you have to give it wings with reformulation. More topnotes...

    Why not just formulate it to last, from the start? Instead of trying to...
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    Re: Tea note in green Irish tweed

    8.5%


    Well, Green Tea Givco, is a complete fantasy note, has zero relationship with reality of what green tea smells like.
    My Black tea, smells loads more closely to real black tea odor profile....
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    Re: Tea note in green Irish tweed

    I think it might be the 10% slug of Bergamot in the GIT formula, with the dosage of additional linalyl acetate, then Galbanum, Galbanolene super, alpha Damascone, and galbascone making that tea note....
  43. Re: Advice regarding the diluting of civet absolute

    Civettone falls into the smell similar family of musks that also contain Silvanone Supra, Muscone, Laevo Muscone, and Exaltone.
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    Re: Any suppliers who have ripped you off?

    I just thought there was bad suppliers mixed in with the good suppliers,... in that thread... But anyway, Do NOT BUY from this, or any of the other half dozen sites that look the same and have the...
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    Re: Any suppliers who have ripped you off?

    There's a suppliers thread to read through, search the forum for that... there's an Indian group of websites that sell fake stuff to stay away from, but it's been too many years since I thought...
  46. Re: Advice regarding the diluting of civet absolute

    The paste is raw, unprocessed civet.
    You'll need to dilute and filter to use it.

    1% - 5% is probably the best idea....
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    Re: Lavender extension

    Vanoris is very short lived...
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    Re: Incorrectly named "Aldehydes"

    'Base', and 'Accord', have similar meanings... 'Base' usually means something with more complexity than an 'Accord', though...
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    Re: Incorrectly named "Aldehydes"

    Thanks to George, the chart has been edited to reflect the duplication of C-18.
    Please view it again at page top.
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    Re: Lavender extension

    Linalool and linalyl acetate, of course, make up most of Lavender.
    Therefore, the esters of Linalool are all fair game.
    Have you any linalyl anthranilate? (CP.com)

    Lavender also has some...
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    Re: Incorrectly named "Aldehydes"

    Ahh, George, Thanks for pointing that out... my mistake...
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    Incorrectly named "Aldehydes"

    This is as full a list as I've seen of the marketing terms used by early manufacturers, to attract the attention of Perfumers, who wanted those amazing "Aldehydes", known for making Chanel No. 5 so...
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    Re: What is the highest use of peach aldehyde?

    To remove a misnomer from past history....
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    Re: isovaleraldehyde and isovalerate

    I've just been working on my Dark Chocolate / Cocoa Absolute replacer, and these figured into the formula at the percentages seen here:



    Isobutyraldehyde 1%

    0.84%


    Butyric Acid 10% DPG
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    Re: isovaleraldehyde and isovalerate

    Yes, to all your questions. :-)
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    Re: Gardenia headspace analysis

    I have the Jasmolactone Extra C, it's very nice, but $2300/kg. And Bedoukian just changed repack /short of kilo costs up to $500.
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    Re: Basenote accord project

    Homme, the last post on this thread was 5 years ago, the thread was started 14 years ago.
    I don't see anyone on the thread that has been here in several years.
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    Re: Gardenia headspace analysis

    "jasmine lactone 54.48%"

    I see two materials so titled, different CAS #'s ~ 34686-71-0, and 25524-95-2.
    Neither of which are easy to obtain, do you have some and are you able to sell me a bit?
  59. Re: Anyone experimenting with less common citrus notes?

    Kumquat?
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    Re: Essential oils blending problems

    Honestly, I would throw out these oils, if they are blended with coconut oil, buy others, and try again.
  61. Re: Best "booster" mix for fragrance oils? (Beginner question)

    With the exception of an ionone, what you have there is mostly the Grojsman accord. You can look that up here on the forum too.

    Your fragrance oils are not built for high quality, just...
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    Re: cheapo Headspace ?

    I've managed to acquire the sampling glass bell, and the battery powered pump, but not yet the method of and the filter itself, to catch the molecules. Of course then, you must send the cartridge...
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    Re: Review: Auram Tonkin 4768-6/D

    I'd really love to figure out a Lyral replacement...
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    Re: Group buy of EO and Absolutes from Egypt

    Unfortunately, they do not allow group buys on BN, unless you have status for selling things, for which not even I pass their test.
    We must take if off BN.
    We can do it in my FB group instead.
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    Re: "Mulacro" Essential Oil - Arcadi Boix Camps

    Arcadi mentions his 10108/D Gardenia that he blends with the Buddhawood, and, also a Grapefruit base. With the CO2 Buddhawood on my hand and smelling his 10800 and 10808D Gardenia bases, yes I can...
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    Re: Reconstituting evaporated perfume

    OK< Sorry.
    Can you buy 190 proof Everclear (grain) Vodka, or 192 Proof Spirytus (potato) Vodka?
    If you can, then as good as Perfumers alcohol for this. You *could* use 150 proof, if you had...
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    Re: "Mulacro" Essential Oil - Arcadi Boix Camps

    I've asked to speak with Alex Sheptitsky, at DDF Australia, as I have here a sample of their CO2 Buddhawood extraction.
    Hopefully they will get back to me soon, but otherwise, Liberty Natural has a...
  68. Thread: Thiomenthone

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    Re: Thiomenthone

    As it is a thiol / mercaptan, your dilution ratio will be very high.
    As George mentions you will need to dilute to at least 1%, if not 0.1%. and depending upon how diluted your other materials are...
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    Re: Reconstituting evaporated perfume

    you can buy a bit of Perfumers alcohol here:
    https://www.creatingperfume.com/perfumealcohol.aspx
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    Re: "Mulacro" Essential Oil - Arcadi Boix Camps

    Yes, I believe Mulacro to be Eremophila Mitchelli, or Buddhawood, or false Sandalwood.
  71. Thread: Hinokitiol

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    Re: Hinokitiol

    Have you looked at Hiba EO?

    Where are you obtaining single molecule Hinokitiol, BTW?
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    Re: "Mulacro" Essential Oil - Arcadi Boix Camps

    OK, found what I was looking for, it's not Mulacro, it is Imbuia wood, or Ocotea Porosa EO.
    http://laszlo.ind.br/default.asp?pagina=produto1&info=1&id_prod=18&id=395&alf=i&tipo=c

    I've asked two...
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    Re: Review: Auram Tonkin 4768-6/D

    This "store" never sold the bases. Just a simple website... It was simply hubris from an arrogant troll.
    Arcadi never gave permission to sell his bases in that manner.

    Christine is the only...
  74. Free Florals EBOOK from Perfumer & Flavorist, it's really great information, GET IT!

    I don't think anyone posted this in this forum, so here it is:

    https://www.perfumerflavorist.com/fragrance/rawmaterials/natural/Florals-The-EBook-513507221.html

    Or Here:...
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    Re: "Mulacro" Essential Oil - Arcadi Boix Camps

    Well, I have to find the Brazilian oil, and figure out what it is, to see if it can compare honestly with Buddhawood, but Mulacro does seem to ring a bell, from those Brazilian oils I bought... ...
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    Re: "Mulacro" Essential Oil - Arcadi Boix Camps

    Thanks Thea for the clue, I was trying to figure that out, myself, last night, as well. I bought some hard to obtain EO's from Brazil, and was trying to find them. If I do, I will compare to my...
  77. Thread: Taking my leave

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    Taking my leave

    I relinquish all leadership and mentorship responsibilities.

    The forum will be what someone else wills it to be, than what I would wish it to be.
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    Re: Copycats... Again >:(

    Blatant Theft is immoral.
    Somebody clones one of mine, they should expect consequences.
  79. Re: Perfumers world "fluorescence," materials are actually professional grade materials!

    I am one who knows, You are one who does not.
    Nearly everything you've said about these Jasmine bases, is completely wrong.
    PW bases ARE very cheaply made, amateurish bases.
    I can't think of any...
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    Re: Make your own Cool Water using essential oils

    uhhh, this NINE year old thread, doesn't need too much attention, since Fred the guy asking the questions hasn't even been on BN for more than eight years.

    And No, Cool water cannot be copied...
  81. Re: How can I dissolve the oil from roasted coffee beans?

    I don't normally dilute things to blend with, but some may already know this.

    Sometimes, products need help getting completely dissolved.
    CO2 extractions sometimes need fatty acid ethyl esters to...
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    Re: Rhodinol - Geraniol and Citronellol

    Here's what is in my files:

    Rhodinol Synthetic formula:

    Geraniol Ex Citronella oil- 70 gms
    Geraniol Pure- 81.725 gms
    Citronellol Pure- 23.275

    Total- 175 gms
  83. Re: Perfumers world "fluorescence," materials are actually professional grade materials!

    Watch out for people who try to steer people towards perfumersworld.
    ...
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    Re: Melon accord - attempt, fail, and observation.

    Sure, Melonal, and Calone get you part way there.
    Somebody put a bug in my ear to make a long lasting Melon base, (akin to my Long Lasting Lemon base).
    I'm only just sort of working on that, but I...
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    Re: Melon accord - attempt, fail, and observation.

    I don't really think, though, that you're going to get to "melon" with all natural perfumes...
  86. Re: Remaking Gucci Gorgeous Gardenia for My Wife...

    The middle notes would be:

    105685
  87. Thread: Tiare accord

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    Re: Tiare accord

    I have this tidbit of information specific to the Tiare Gardenia:

    "Tiare, the Queen of Polynesian flowers, is a striking, white, star-shaped flower that is actually a gardenia. It grows on a small...
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    Re: Iso/Et. Brass/hedione etc struggle

    I think that all of them *can be hard to smell, by themselves, and up close.
    Personally, I can smell all of them, but EB is the one that I smell the least. I was pouring some for a buyer of...
  89. Thread: Tiare accord

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    Re: Tiare accord

    Honestly, I don't know the difference between a US garden Gardenia, and a Tahitian Gardenia Tiare.
    I have an impression that it might be more vanillic, but I certainly could be wrong.

    Do you have...
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    Re: Phenylacetic Acid

    Searching by text in my formulas, I see that it appears in these formulas of mine:
    Rose, jasmine, green tea, Vanilla Absolute, Civet, Leather, Honeysuckle, several perfumes of mine like my winner,...
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    Re: Chemical Analysis of Santal 33?

    Good Carrot Seed EO oil is hard to find, and it is easy to buy cold pressed, which is a much more common carrier oil, than to buy the steam distilled EO, and actually useful for Perfumery, while cold...
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    Re: Chemical Analysis of Santal 33?

    :-) It wasn't really for me... just since the only information was what you posted, I wanted to help you understand that the information that you knew already, was important, sorry to intrude...
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    Re: Chemical Analysis of Santal 33?

    The only thing I can say, is that it would really surprise me that there was only one musk in Santal 33.

    The only other thing that I might make mention of, is that right now, you may only have one...
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    Re: Chemical Analysis of Santal 33?

    Dana, I see no reason at all for you to feel embarrassed...
    Congratulations!

    Oh, and do I assume that your numbers are drops of fluid?
    I have an apprentice coming next week, this will be a good...
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    Re: Chemical Analysis of Santal 33?

    Nice to hear of your success, Dana!

    My own recollection remembers a lot of Cedarwood, but could be wrong. Did Cedarwood figure into your blend?
  96. Thread: Powdery bases

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    Re: Powdery bases

    This might help:
    ...
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    Voting for Member Permanent Removal

    Since Matt is only in a timeout, his return is assured, it seems when speaking with a moderator.
    BN seems to await several infractions before permanent bans are enforced.

    In the long term, there...
  98. Thread: Strip Holder

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    Re: Strip Holder

    Aaahhh! Someone posted a link to where you can buy these scent strip holders that I posted, Here:

    https://www.scentblotterstrips.com/product/tester-blotter-strip-holders/
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    Re: Wormwood and Wisteria

    With George here, don't know of a real extraction of wisteria. You must have a fragrance oil there...
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    Re: Disposing of failed experiments.

    Surely, We live in a near desert, that gets no rain for months, so evaporation is not an issue for runoff. But you must consider your own place environment...
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