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    Re: tuberose and iris

    I've just gotten the quote from my compounder to make MY Tuberose base. It is NOT cheap. But it smells great.
    At least I need to get some made for myself so I can make some of my scents again. ...
  2. Re: Help Creating A Similar Scent to Simple Truths Red Sandalwood Vanilla Beard Oil Using Essential

    Not very likely if no one knows what it smells like.

    What makes you believe that what you want to

    And what makes you unwilling to purchase what you already know that you like?

    Real Vanilla...
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    Re: NEWBIE, freshman

    If you're Aussie, make sure you see the Hermitage oils Australia site.

    And you might find some of my bases at Perfumer Supply House.
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    Re: tuberose and iris

    Great there Geco, I love Osmanthus too, I've actually built fresh flower bases for both, Tuberose and Osmanthus. Love them both... :-)
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    Re: Making my existing perfume last longer?

    Gold Wine Memories, this question, of course, we receive ad nauseam from people buying clone fragrance oils, who wish to make them last longer, and sell them in their street corners in the...
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    Re: tuberose and iris

    deleted, duplicate post, somehow...
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    Re: tuberose and iris

    The thing about the extremely expensive absolute, is that it will never smell like the fresh flower. A good Perfumer will still have to tune up the absolute with other molecules to get it closer to...
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    Re: Making my existing perfume last longer?

    Let's start with what is real, and what is not. Amber, Benzoin, and Oakmoss don't have essential oils. Oakmoss and Benzoin have an absolute, and who knows what that Amber is. But if they smell...
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    Re: tuberose and iris

    ok
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    Re: ScenTree Classification

    No, Green and Musk don't usually go together, that's why I was rather surprised when I could smell a bit of green in Edenolide!
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    Re: tuberose and iris

    I like the Orris Givco, for it's Disneyfied profile, but have not yet employed it. But I was gifted a kilogram of it, so I'd better start using it! :-)
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    Re: tuberose and iris

    I didn't need to see or hear it, I can smell it in there... I became quite familiar with both the fragrance, and the base, and know each other very well, by scent, and I can smell the base in the...
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    Re: What is a "MUD" bad smell ?

    I don't think I have any of Andy's Tuberose, to make a comment for you. (He REALLY likes Vanilla, where I do not, so I don't often test his works). I met him once in Los Angeles, wonderful guy.
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    Re: tuberose and iris

    Thanks! :-) I started calling it Santal Fresh, wanting a fresh Sandalwood scent. It is that, but it morphed/became much more floral.
    I really love to spray my pillow with this one, and it lasts...
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    Re: tuberose and iris

    I am not an Iris expert, so I can't help you there.

    Building tuberose has been an obsession with me, so I have done loads of research, and built my own bases.

    Carnal Flower uses a Firmenich...
  16. Re: IFF Captive, until now, available to us at PSH! (Edenolide)

    Oh, maybe I misread the thought, but yes, I would include Harry too, about fighting over Arcadi. :-)
    Maybe Timon and Harry could be friends too...
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    Re: Help to develop non Hazmat perfume formula

    "pkiler, I hope you were aware you sided with someone who made a completely illogical post.
    He's probably going to admit his mistake and apologise. You shouldn't let your partiality against my posts...
  18. Re: IFF Captive, until now, available to us at PSH! (Edenolide)

    I gave a tiny review of Edenolide in our Video when reviewing the PSH materials, last weekend.
    Yes, I think that Applide and Edenoilde are similar, but they are different.
    When first smelling...
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    Re: Help to develop non Hazmat perfume formula

    There was only one suggestion made in that post that was actually helpful or true. The rest were counterproductive.
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    Re: What is a "MUD" bad smell ?

    If you have "custard", you should look at the formula for too much sweetness, maltol, and fatty notes/lactose, me thinks.
  21. Re: Lyral Replacer formula - Let's talk about our choices and formulas

    What is your experience for longevity?
    TGSC says 24 hours. Takasago says 5 weeks.
  22. Re: Lyral Replacer formula - Let's talk about our choices and formulas

    Now at about 40 hours of dryout, testing my two blotters of Lyral and replacer, the replacer and the lyral still have very very close odor profiles. The replacer is a little more voluminous/loud.
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    Re: What is a "MUD" bad smell ?

    Perfumersworld videos. Take them cum grano solis.
  24. Re: Lyral Replacer formula - Let's talk about our choices and formulas

    The formula is likely a bit newer, likely from the 70's - 90's I would guess. Looking at this version, I can see that the original Jasmine absolute content was likely about 4.5 - 5%.
    Now in this...
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    Re: Ethanol / Methanol

    All that Perfumers need to know about the use of Methanol in Perfumes, is that a large enough dosage will kill your customer, and that you should never ever ever use methanol in your perfume...
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    Re: What is a "MUD" bad smell ?

    "mud", vs. the smell of mud, is a term that I might have coined, but maybe I didn't. Hard to remember that far back.

    What "I" mean by it is that it is very easy to do with all natural perfumes,...
  27. Re: Lyral Replacer formula - Let's talk about our choices and formulas

    Yes, I agree, more lily than Lyral. Lilial is easier to replace than Lyral.
  28. Re: Lyral Replacer formula - Let's talk about our choices and formulas

    I think that you only need to worry about Lyral if you show allergic dermal reactions. Only a small number of people are allergic.
  29. Re: Lyral Replacer formula - Let's talk about our choices and formulas

    Interesting... I don't think I have Floral Super yet...
    But it seems to have a shorter lifespan, though.
    Have you noticed this?
  30. Re: Lyral Replacer formula - Let's talk about our choices and formulas

    Oh, and has anyone tried Chris Bartlett's replacer?
  31. Lyral Replacer formula - Let's talk about our choices and formulas

    I really like Lyral, and have some formulas that need large doses that I want to work on.

    George Tedder makes a fair statement that he sees a lack, in those replacers out there, that they only...
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    Re: An formula from 1963

    Dianthus is Carnation, already mentioned..
    Dianthine is a base. I purchased some 30 year old Firmenich Dianthine base, loved it, had it gc'd, has 40% Eugenol. Many vintage bases have loads of...
  33. Re: FEA and other Perfume Bottle Neck Standards

    I dont know what FEA means, but I am fairly certain those notations are stating a crimp top type sized to 15mm and 18mm, as you suggest.
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    Re: Old member needs help with "craft" project

    Since ISO E Super is just one molecule, and all other materials are naturals, and Iso E is somewhat quiet in it's odor profile, It might just get lost in the naturals. AND, it won't be smelled solo,...
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    Re: Old member needs help with "craft" project

    I think everything that you've mentioned would be useful.

    Thinking in percentages, you could try this out:

    Patchouli 38%
    Iso E Super 25% He might not even smell it in this...
    Cypriol 15%...
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    Re: How to use Cashmeran?

    Please supply an example formula of that which you have decided that you hate it in the blend.
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    Re: DIY Newbie (Sort of) Setting Up and Lost

    My lemon base does contain a few schiff bases, but is not completely those. It is 20% naturals, too...
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    Re: Roja Dove's Blending Method

    It proves that a schiff base has formed, radically changing the color and odor of the scent.


    If it smells like Root Beer by the time you smell it, then the transformation has already started to...
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    Re: DIY Newbie (Sort of) Setting Up and Lost

    Yes, Schiff base products can be strong, and Lemonile is pretty strong, except that Lemonile is not a Schiff base, but a Nitrile. (it's a dead giveaway by looking at the name endings...)
    ...
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    Re: Insights on LIDGE structure

    I don't know where you would send out for a GC testing in Australia...???
    But if possible, I would recommend to send to Laboratoire Phytochemia, in Canada.
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    Re: About Strawberry fragrance's color

    If you really mean Hexonic acid, I have no clue, nor know why you would use it. But maybe you mean Hexanoic acid?
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    Re: Formula With No Quantities Listed

    What has convinced you that the investment to purchase these expensive materials will result in a fragrance that you like, and that is based only on these materials?

    I don't really see anything...
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    Re: Insights on LIDGE structure

    I'm sorry, but I don't know anything about LIDGE, in any sales format or location.
    But offhand, if you want to learn it, why not send another version of LIDGE out for a GC test, and modify that...
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    Re: Very Basic Questions

    Dilution depends upon what your goal, and what your application method is going to be.
    It also depends upon what you have placed in your perfume, as some materials do not dilute well in certain...
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    Re: Solvents for aromatic crystal chemicals

    If you search your materials on TGSC, then you can learn solubility for each item in different substrates.
    search through this:
    www.perfumersearch.com
  46. Re: I'm looking for materials to combine with Castoreum for a sex accord, any Ideas?

    I think that castoreum, and other materials, were extracted differently from today and from 80 years ago.
    Using a historical formula may not yield the same result by using current day extractions. ...
  47. Re: Are tinctures base notes, heart notes or top notes?

    Oakmoss absolute, is a hexane extraction. Absolutes that are hexane solved are most often the basest longest lasting materials in the material. Tinctures are many times quite light in their...
  48. Re: how to compose with pre made bases? where do they go? top, heart or base?

    That depends how they are built. But mostly, I would say top to middle, generally. But your mileage may vary.
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    Re: Roja Dove's Blending Method

    BTW, I overstated my importance, certainly regulatory changes also affected the reformulations of his line.
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    Re: Roja Dove's Blending Method

    It is a failure, because one year after bottling, the scent is medium to dark brown color, and smells like Root Beer. This is because of the incorrect blending of molecules created a new compound. ...
  51. Thread: Ashy smoke

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    Re: Ashy smoke

    This is the clear bit of smoke:
    http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/data/rw1017771.html

    Available at PA, I believe, as syringol.
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    Re: Roja Dove's Blending Method

    First, Roger Dove is NOT a Perfumer.
    DO NOT follow anything that he does, assuming so.
    He knows just enough to ACT LIKE he is. He is PLAINLY NOT.

    Mixing directly into alcohol is NOT a common...
  53. Thread: Ashy smoke

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    Re: Ashy smoke

    Side note:
    I discovered that Leather MD is also this:
    https://www.whitelotusaromatics.com/product/leather-natural-melange
  54. Re: Is it possible to Dilute Castoreum Absolute in DPG or Ethanol? If not, how do I apply the Absolu

    If something is truly an absolute, it once lived in alcohol, separating out the fatty materials. from the aromatics, that were solved into the alcohol. So it will go back into alcohol...
    Sometimes,...
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    Re: New to DIY perfumes - advice please

    Not to press a point, but this is not Perfumery, it is simply dilution.
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    Re: Solvents for aromatic crystal chemicals

    Agree with Bill, above.

    Maltol, and ethyl maltol may give you a bit more problem. You'll likely need to try at 5% for these.
    Always work by weight, not volume.

    I don't dilute any of my...
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    Re: New to DIY perfumes - advice please

    Yes.



    I can't help here. I've never used premade fragrance oils, as I am a Perfumer.
  58. Re: Is it possible to Dilute Castoreum Absolute in DPG or Ethanol? If not, how do I apply the Absolu

    Yes, you can dilute as you ask. Both.
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    Re: New to DIY perfumes - advice please

    Premade copycat fragrance oils, yet another item completely frowned on here, seem to need high dilution ratios, such as suggested, 25% to 75% alchol/substrate mixture.
  60. Thread: website

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    Re: website

    If you search for specific materials, on the TGSC database, you can learn what that material will likely be classified, at least in a broad sense. You can search the database by using...
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    Re: Improving top notes

    If say, 20 drops equals 1 gram, 5 grams equals 100 drops. (In reality, it doesn't, but just for the sake of argument)
    This scale is too small.
    I usually formulate a scale of 10 grams for a full...
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    Re: How to 'Sketch' an Idea Economically

    One drop, among how many drops?
    You just can't work on a scale, that one drop equals 1%, that is just too small of scale.

    If say, 20 drops equals 1 gram, 5 grams equals 100 drops. (In reality,...
  63. Re: Cinalkex, Cinnamic Alcohol replacer, what is the replacement ratio?

    I translated the MSDS for my own use to paste it to the kilo bottle, it may offer someone else some clues.
    113125
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    Re: Weighing scales recommendations

    I've been using this one for more than a year now.
    Just bought my second one.
    ...
  65. Re: Cinalkex, Cinnamic Alcohol replacer, what is the replacement ratio?

    "Hi Paul,
    We spoke with 2 people at IFF and they say there is no ratios for replacement that they are aware of at this time.
    If something changes I will let you know.

    Kind Regards,
    Joe...
  66. Cinalkex, Cinnamic Alcohol replacer, what is the replacement ratio?

    Does anyone know the replacement ratio for Cinalkex to Cinnamic Alcohol?

    Thanks,
    PK
  67. High Impact Aroma Chemicals E-book, Free, Sponsored by Bedoukian, from Perfumer & Flavorist

    https://www.perfumerflavorist.com/flavor/rawmaterials/synthetic/Diversifying-the-Palette-High-Impact-Aroma-Molecules-564113161.html

    This time, the fields won't be prepopulated with my information!...
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    Re: Captives and the GC-MS

    Captives identified by their retention time, but not by CAS#, will often cite "unknown".
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    Re: Best musk for incense accord

    Indeed.
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    Re: online searches and excel

    As Bill suggests, or use my Excel Perfume Formulation Spreadsheet, and all calculations are made for you.
  71. Re: Fragrances built around a single aromachemical

    Honestly, I did not get the test done, so I do not know the vintage of the test, or the lab who performed it.

    I'm on a different computer now, and it has two formulas made by people I know, that...
  72. Re: Fragrances built around a single aromachemical

    A GC I have for Cool Water has DHM at an astonishing 23%.

    Monolithic scents like this are not interesting to me, however.
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    Re: Room spray with 3 ingredients

    Our friend David Ruskin often recommended Dowanol as the best solvent for Reed Diffusers, I believe.
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    Re: right formula sheet and dosages

    I have posted this sheet numerous times.
    Here it is again.
    https://pkperfumes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/1-PK-Perfumes-Fragrance-FORMULA-WORKSHEET2_revised_IFRA2.xltx
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    Re: right formula sheet and dosages

    The sheet as pictured resolves to x.xxg. but you can change the columns to resolve as many places as you can measure. Since I have a new scale, I change to measure x.xxxg.
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    Re: right formula sheet and dosages

    This Excel sheet enters the line item amount in Column B, and then in column C, calculates the percentage of each material, as used in the formula, by it's weight.
    No Matter how many materials are...
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    Re: right formula sheet and dosages

    At the bottom of the sheet, there is a red letter box, , in column F, asking you this:
    enter mls of fragrance oil you need to make.

    Underneath that box is a black letter box, asking this:
    the...
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    Re: "Female Human" Scent?

    Have you Suederal?
  79. Re: If you use beverage alcohol, can you sell your perfume without liquor tax? An argument in favor

    Simply by adding in the materials, you are denaturing your perfumes, you don't need to be concerned.
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    Re: Room spray with 3 ingredients

    Oh, Sorry, Bill, It was I who misread that one...
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    Re: Room spray with 3 ingredients

    Bill, I think that you might have misread the MEK level. OP Posted "Methyl ethyl ketone, 0.03%" in the alcohol.
    This is diluted further with fragrance, and water if chosen, etc.
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    Re: Yes... its an Aventus inspired formula

    I would not be able to say.
    There are several/many fragrance oil suppliers.
    Too many companies are willing to steal from real Perfumers.
  83. A very nice comparative GC analysis of Cedarwoods: Texas, Virginia, Chinese, Atlas, and Himalayan

    https://perfumerflavorist.texterity.com/perfumerflavorist/november_2019/MobilePagedReplica.action?ajs_uid=1138G4724801H8V&oly_enc_id=1138G4724801H8V&pm=2&folio=30#pg35
  84. Re: Good formulas to help a beginner get better?

    Another Paul Here:

    Let me just say that you need the Tony Curtis book.
    It is decades newer in information than the Poucher book.

    And I suggest that you buy the book directly from the...
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    Re: Yes... its an Aventus inspired formula

    He said it when he split from DUA.
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    Re: Symrise perfumers compendium

    Call and ask for it?
    I've gotten Symrise in NYC on the phone a few times, been sent this Compendium, and sent an original sample of old stock Mousse de Saxe, you just have to get on the phone and...
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    Re: Looking for Oud like sweetness

    Benzaldehyde is restricted, due to being a drug precursor.
    I have a supplier who knows and trusts me, so I filed DEA paperwork with them and they sent it out.
    I don't know of anyone who will sell...
  88. Thread: A little help

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    Re: A little help

    Frankincense 5
    Bergamot 10
    Cedarwood 15
    Rosewood 10
    Orange cold pressed 3
    Ylang Ylang 2
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    Re: How to work with Galaoxolide?

    Using it at 50% is very common...
    I've even seen commercial GC results, that have the exact same amount of Galaxolide and DPG, So I know that even compounders use it at 50%.
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    Re: Symrise perfumers compendium

    Perfumers Compendium for both IFF and Symrise.
    Interior pages for Symrise Perfumers Compendium below.

    112656

    112657
    The material title is in Silver ink, a little hard to photograph, So I...
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    Re: Looking for Oud like sweetness

    Simply by looking over GC results from Oudwood testing results, two that stick out for me as sweet are Benzaldehyde, and 4-Methoxybenzaldehyde.
    There are likely others there, but so many of the...
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    Re: Room spray with 3 ingredients

    well, yes, you can likely use only alcohol...
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    Re: How to organzie oils and aroma chemicals?

    My Dad was the recipient of the massive OCD dose in my family. Fortunately, I was not. LOL!

    But since I'm the only one who has to work in there, (unless I have an apprentice here), it's my own...
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    Re: Room spray with 3 ingredients

    Just remember, even for distilled water, that water is life. Bacteria can grow in water.
    I would add inhibitors for that purpose.
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    Re: How to organzie oils and aroma chemicals?

    I'm not sure I am the right person to respond, but I'll tell you what I do.
    I follow the way that my brain thinks, which is associatively.
    So, I have baskets holding thoughts/types/notes/groups....
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    Re: Room spray with 3 ingredients

    Maybe, try it and see if it meets your expectations.
    You will likely need an antibacterial in there too, if using that much water.
    What is your propellant?
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    Re: Milk Lactone Solubility

    Have you purchased and diluted Butter CO2?

    https://www.edenbotanicals.com/butter-co2.html
    https://www.sunrosearomatics.com/products/5086-butter-co2-se-extract/...
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    Re: Milk Lactone Solubility

    I would not use CO2 products, as some of them already have alcohol and perfume concentrate solubility issues, depending upon the material.
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    Re: Milk Lactone Solubility

    I've seen the same item come as either solid, or liquid, from different suppliers. That of course, is not really related to differing solubility, just to illustrate differences.

    I do not have any...
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    Re: Group buy for GC/MS

    The last time this was tried, everybody who participated got ripped off. Honestly, no one here knows you. You have zero trust engendered from residency here, or in any other forum...

    There are...
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