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    Re: Fragrances for Candles

    Candlescience.com is a good resource for candle making / fragrances for.
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    Re: Room spray with 3 ingredients

    Also this: Dipropylene Glycol Methyl Ether Acetate

    Product identifier
    Trade name: Premium Diffuser Base LSF 0771
    Article number: LSF 0771
    CAS Number:
    88917-22-0
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    Re: Room spray with 3 ingredients

    Here's something else I found -- mineral oil?


    Product Name: REED DIFFUSER BASE
    Revision Date: 06-30-2017
    Replaces:
    3. Compositon/informaton on ingredients
    Chemical Component: CAS number and...
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    Re: Room spray with 3 ingredients

    The only problem with using just alcohol (instead of a base) for reed diffusers is evaporation -- it will happen very fast in the vessel + the scent throw will be fleeting.

    This is what one reed...
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    Re: Fragrance Oil Dilutions

    This won't be of much help but: companies that sell home fragrance 'oils' -- the ready-made ones that you can use right away -- do dilute them with whatever carrier is appropriate for the intended...
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    Re: Recreating Bleu De Chanel

    Case in point: Quite a while ago -- when I knew a lot less than I know now about making perfume (and I still know nothing in the grand scheme of things) I tried to recreate Norell -- a favorite of...
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    Re: How to organzie oils and aroma chemicals?

    For what it's worth:

    On my computer I have 3 lists. LIst # 1 is every synthetic material have (& certain naturals) in alphabetical order with detailed notes about each one + right after the name...
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    Re: Stranded with 10 kg of aroma chemicals

    Since pleasant smells from flowers etc. would more than likely already be familar to other island people, I'd hit them with something that really stinks thus causing them to wonder where such a gawd...
  9. Re: IFF Captive, until now, available to us at PSH! (Edenolide)

    I read Arcadi's rave description some time ago and have wondered ever since if/when this material would be available. Thank you for the info! Just ordered some from Christine.
  10. Re: When it says 'Vegetable Emulsifier' in the ingredients of a room spray- what does it usually mea

    This -- maybe?: Essential Oil Emulsifier. This vegetable mixture is an emulsifier (EOE) that helps to create a more even consistency between an essential oil and water combination. Applications are...
  11. Re: When it says 'Vegetable Emulsifier' in the ingredients of a room spray- what does it usually mea

    Depends on quite a few factors like: is the emulsion hot or cold process -- level of viscosity needed -- clear emulsion or milky preferred -- and the list goes on. For example: a cold process,...
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    Re: Interesting (maybe) bergamot comparison

    Very timely post for me as I've used up the last of my bergamot and was putting together an order from Eden. Will get the FCF. Thank you for the info!
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    Re: Smoothing Out Lemongrass EO

    Although violet leaf ab is fine material to have, I'm sure others will soon chime in to make suggestions of alternate if not better materials than vl ab. to address your lemongrass issue = an...
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    Re: Smoothing Out Lemongrass EO

    The BN perfumery experts might very well correct me, so I apologize in advance if this is not an optimum solution to take the sharp edge off your lemongrass. But adding a trace of violet leaf ab....
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    Re: fragrance mixture solidity

    I think you just misinterpreted the Wiki info which says: grain alcohol (Everclear) "is bottled at 120, 151 and 190 U.S. proof -- 60%, 75.5% and 95% alcohol by volume, respectively. "
    ...
  16. Re: More amazement from my endowment of formulas

    She certainly knew how to write a thank you letter. Priceless.
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    Re: Ingredients needed for mens "Freshie"

    Terpinyl Acetate might be worth exploring for a bit of extra edge.
  18. Re: More amazement from my endowment of formulas

    It is.

    Actually a first name too -- Heiko Maas for example. (I had to look that up :wink:)
  19. Re: More amazement from my endowment of formulas

    Very cool!

    Would love to smell the powerful, 'lord of the manor' rose mix that was used.
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    Re: Veratraldehyde color stability question

    Maybe -- though I could be wrong -- but since the pH of DPG is about the same as vanillin (4-5 acidic), the DPG could be helping to stabilze the vanillin as it won't tend to discolor in similar pH's....
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    Re: descriptions of some new fragrance chemicals

    I put Orinox (diluted to 50%) to very good use in a dry, dusty rose blend (my goal) alongside sandalwood, leather and patchouli. The orinox made all the difference. Very subtle, lovely orange nuance...
  22. Re: Sourcing Norlimbanol Dextro in small amounts

    Great to know! Thank you. I can source it now from PSH.
  23. Re: Sourcing Norlimbanol Dextro in small amounts

    Thank you for the offer Paul -- 100 grams is fine -- but I'll first write to see where PA is on this and will go from there.
  24. Re: Sourcing Norlimbanol Dextro in small amounts

    Bumping this in case anyone has any info. I'm curious too.
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    Re: I've got withdrawal symptoms...

    I ordered right before PSH went dark -- lucky me -- but then went back to scout for a few more materials and.... uh oh! I totally get your jonesing.
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    Re: perfume ventilation system

    Are you talking about using your fragrance in an actual Cold-Air Diffusion system -- where the oils are converted to a dry mist of nanoparticles that are released into HAVAC ducts and blown into your...
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    Re: Hedione Hedione Hedione

    That was my take away -- 15 materials total.
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    Hedione Hedione Hedione

    Just in case anyone missed this and/or has an interest:

    https://www.fragrantica.com/news/I-Want-to-Play-Jean-Claude-Ellena-on-Freedom-Professional-Jealousy-and-His-Newest-Rose-Cuir-12731.html
  29. Re: Any advice for getting that Sharp, Thin, Zingy quality to my homemade fragrance?

    You might try Rosewood Leaf EO -- from Eden: The aroma is fresh, bitter green-woody, and highly aromatic, with slight camphoraceous and faint rosy nuances;. I have some and it does add some nice top...
  30. Thread: Oil and Water

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    Re: Oil and Water

    Take a look at this list of emulsifiers etc:
    http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/cosdata/emulsifying.html

    You can click on any ingredient for a complete google search -- then check it out on the...
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    Re: Cyclomethylene Citronellol ?

    Thank you all for the replies. :)
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    Cyclomethylene Citronellol ?

    I can't find much more on this material other than the Firmenich description: Soft clean floral citrus rose does not give much character of its own but develops, harmonizes individual notes of...
  33. Thread: Bleach note

    by DanaB
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    Re: Bleach note

    A safer option to chlorine is oxyclorsine: a uniquely stabilized chlorine-based substance linked to a monomeric oxygen. It is non-necrotizing and thus can be used on open wounds and will not damage...
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    Re: Perfumerslab.com -- Small beginnings

    Admittedly.... I tried to think up a clever comeback to this ^^^ (JulieN/CatW style) but your post was just too good to one up. :cool:
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    Re: Perfumerslab.com -- Small beginnings

    I was grrrowling when I typed that. :lolk:
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    Re: Blue Lotus Absolute Feedback Needed

    John Steele - Life Tree Aromatics a company that is well trusted has Blue Lotus.
    Lotus, Blue - Absolute Nymphaea caerulea - Sri Lanka -- 1.5 ML for 90$ as of their last price list that I got in...
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    Re: Essential oils blending problems

    I recently did this -- syphoned off the alcohol from a blend in which I mistakenly added a rose essential oil that was in a carrrier that would not mix. Still smells just fine; better even without...
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    Re: Essential oils blending problems

    Coconut oil is basically a fat (saturated) -- impossible to blend with alcohol and DPG as you found out. A very specialized 'alcohol tolerant' emulsifier would work, but off the top of my head I...
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    Re: "Mulacro" Essential Oil - Arcadi Boix Camps

    Perhaps your Nootkatone suspicions have something to do with this:

    The CDC owns patents on nootkatone and has licensed them to two companies one to develop an insect repellent particularly for...
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    Re: Review: Auram Tonkin 4768-6/D

    It will be launched with a new name: Unaventful.
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    Re: Review: Auram Tonkin 4768-6/D

    Wouldn't that be something! Especially since Mahonial isn't quite there according to Arcadi (I'm sure you already know this): .... in fact Mahonial is seco Lyral. They have cut one carbon in...
  42. Thread: Hinokitiol

    by DanaB
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    Re: Hinokitiol

    Black spruce perhaps -- clean, sharp, intirguing IMO -- at least to compliment the Nootkatone. I am not familiar with Hinokitiol, so maybe it won't work.

    As for the bug repellency: do you happen...
  43. Thread: Taking my leave

    by DanaB
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    Re: Taking my leave

    You just did it -- the straw man thing. Twice.

    I give you a dictionary definition -- plain and simple.
    You then somehow translate that to mean I disagree with you = a misrepresentation of my...
  44. Thread: Taking my leave

    by DanaB
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    Re: Taking my leave

    The straw man fallacy involves misrepresenting an opponent’s position to make it easier to refute. Straw man arguments often oversimplify opposing views or disregard inconvenient points in favor of...
  45. Re: Fragrance Too Weak in Fractionated Coconut Oil

    One thing you could try -- that is if you're set on using the fragrance oils from from Vetiver Aromatics et al, is to dilute them with some alcohol rather than more oil. This will help with...
  46. Re: Fragrance Too Weak in Fractionated Coconut Oil

    I am not familiar with Plant Therapy but I do have several of fragrance oil samples from Vetiver Aromatics -- was going to use them to scent some hand creams for myself -- but I wasn't really...
  47. Thread: Taking my leave

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    Re: Taking my leave

    Already Paul's thread is turning on its axis to become about something/someone else.
  48. Thread: Taking my leave

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    Re: Taking my leave

    It's disheartening to see valuable members leave a forum because of....well....

    .....suffice to say: 'train wreck' threads that are often impossible to look away from or comment on with the...
  49. Re: Perfumers world "fluorescence," materials are actually professional grade materials!

    So....don't rule out a supplier! Buy from whatever company you like. Needing hard evidence about PW really isn't necessary is it? So what if others have a negative opinion about them -- you're not...
  50. Re: Perfumers world "fluorescence," materials are actually professional grade materials!

    As Geco said: ".....go to the factory and buy it as it leaves the machine."

    Other than that, it's all about TRUST.

    So you've answered your own question:

    When you buy a material from a...
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    Re: Good perfume formulas for beginners

    Not sure why you're answering me here. My post to Linalool was not about me having a personal interest in old fashioned formulas or where to find them as well as modern formulas etc.
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    Re: Good perfume formulas for beginners

    Would you be willing to post one of these 'old fashioned' formulas? If so, perhaps members here could give you some direction on what you might add or eliminate etc. in the spirit of reformulation...
  53. Re: Perfumers world "fluorescence," materials are actually professional grade materials!

    I think they would still have to (by law?) advertise them as the original product by name + CAS# IF the original manufacturer was still making the product and/or still held the patent on said product...
  54. Re: Discussing the mechanics behind crafting a formula

    I reuse my disposable pipettes -- can't bear to throw them away because of pollution. I immediately triple rinse them in alcohol -- 3 seperate small containers made from plastic water bottles cut in...
  55. Re: Perfumers world "fluorescence," materials are actually professional grade materials!

    It appears that there is no Jasmine 231 SA -- it doesn't exist -- no CAS# -- is not made by Firmenich. Not anymore. It's not on their website's compendium of products and there are no results for...
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    Re: The Wonderful world, and theory of musks

    I too was confused by and subsequently bothered by this 'nesting of musks' idea, because apparently there is no such thing as nesting in professional perfumery, at least not that I could find. Ergo,I...
  57. Re: Perfumers world "fluorescence," materials are actually professional grade materials!

    Me neither....

    ..... unless I'm wrongly understanding the Good Scents page on Jasmine Specialty -- which I see as showing various makers and/or suppliers of Jasmine Specialty = their own formula? ...
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    Re: What isn't soluble in ethanol?

    I'm not sure what you mean by 'pure' fragrance oil.

    As for the why's and chemical understandings, etc.: Google is your friend. Info abounds out there -- and yes there are materials (emulsifiers...
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    Re: What isn't soluble in ethanol?

    Sounds like your fragrance oil is blended with jojoba or some other oil that does not dissolve in alcohol. If you are trying to make perfume, best to not use 'fragrance oils' which are especially...
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    Re: Review: Auram Tonkin 4768-6/D

    Bumping this thread -- very interesting!

    I'm wondering if Christine had success sourcing Arcadi's bases?
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    Re: Perfume - how to improve longevity?

    Which ones did you try and how did you try them -- at what %....smelling straight from the bottle....or by adding them to a blend, etc.?
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    Re: Dilution % for aroma chemicals

    If you type 'refrigerate hedione' in the search box above you will get quite a few thread results that discuss this, and then you can decide for yourself. I haven't owned any materials for a long...
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    Re: Dilution % for aroma chemicals

    Don't dilute everything (or even most) to 1% -- only those materials that are super strong like aldehydes and those that you want to use in trace amounts. Or....don't dilute anything. There are no...
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    Re: Dilution % for aroma chemicals

    I personally don't dilute EO's -- if that's what you are talking about?? -- except for maybe clove or some others that can take over a fragrance and/or if I just want to add a trace -- and I then...
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    Re: Dilution % for aroma chemicals

    Research of materials will reveal if they should be cold stored. I refrigerate aldehydes, ionones, citris naturals and certain other materials like hedione. When you make up dilutions just do a...
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    Re: Dilution % for aroma chemicals

    I'm not the best source for info since I'm just starting out making perfume -- but in my limited experience I have come to the conclusion -- through researching materials on Good Scents + reading...
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    Re: Copycats... Again >:(

    There's a company based in NY that does exactly that ^^^. They will design custom bottles and labels for you -- your own brand -- they will fill the bottles in bulk with whatever 'inspired' scent...
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    Re: Source of tobacco leaf absolute anyone please?

    I have the Eden one also and just received an ab from Aftelier. The Aftelier smells more nuanced -- lighter, sweeter, less resinous, a bit fruity like a fresh, mellow tobacco would smell straight...
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    Re: Problem with aldehyde C-12 MNA

    Thank you for ^^^^ :)

    I now have 1% dilutions of all aldehydes and will let them mature for a while.
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    Re: Problem with aldehyde C-12 MNA

    I feel like that most of the time. Lol!

    But this morning I gave the original a sniff -- and the soapy/waxy smell is greatly diminished. There is hope. Smells pretty great actually. Will be...
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    Re: List of safest synthetics?

    Perhaps the 'something' you're hearing about 300 materials being safe, might have come from Henry Rose perfumes -- MIchelle Pfeiffer's perfume line. She instructed her perfumers to only use ultra...
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    Re: Problem with aldehyde C-12 MNA

    Thanks everyone for your replies. I'm going to start over; remix one without the c-12 -- another with trace at 1% dilution -- and will let the current one sit for a few months and see how it smells...
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    Problem with aldehyde C-12 MNA

    I'm working on a fragrance for a friend who wants an amber incense feel with bergamot opening. I achieved that, and then thought Aldehyde C-12 MNA (from PA) would be a good addition -- used trace...
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    Re: Materials with a Dark Color?

    Beeswax, Ambreine (natural), Labdanum ab. I have a Vanilla ab (Indonesia) that is very dark -- also an Opoponax and Osmanthus ab that are a dark amber color as well as White Lotus.
  75. Re: Formulation for Lauren was changed, 5 years ago. Looking for frangrance that smells like origin

    IFRA is the International Fragrance Association.

    From their site:
    The IFRA Code of Practice is the global fragrance industry's commitment to providing products that are safe for consumers and...
  76. Re: Formulation for Lauren was changed, 5 years ago. Looking for frangrance that smells like origin

    Welcome Lamborghinigal ! I too am a vintage Lauren fan -- still have my 'original formula' bottle and also a newer reformulated one as well.

    The new formula is definitely missing those...
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    Re: Bringing a fragrance to market

    According to the FDA there is no law that prohibits the manufacturing of 'cosmetics' (perfumes fall into this category) in your home provided the manufacturing environment can not cause the product...
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    Re: Perfumerslab.com -- Small beginnings

    Just being the grammar police so your tool can appear more professional.

    Your currrent result sentence There is not formulas, which contains both of provided materials. is grammatically...
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    My recreation of Stella by Stella McCartney

    Very simple formula for ultra beginners like myself should anyone be interested in giving it a try.

    This is my own version done as an exercise; it is not THE actual formula for Stella. But I...
  80. Re: How do I get freshly laundered linens smell ?

    Aldehyde C-12 Lauric (Dodecanal) can supply this as well.
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    Re: Do anyone knows about mechanism of accord(s)?

    On a most basic level -- we think rose as rose IF we've smelled a rose before or a rose scent. Our nose/brain immediately identifies rose because it's already in our scent library.

    But if you...
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    Re: Please help me find this amber!

    Just for comparison, Michelle Pfiefer's Henry Rose line of perfumes is totally transparent -- no deception. From the website: Together with the Environmental Working Group and the Cradle to Cradle...
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    Re: Please help me find this amber!

    Ditto! :thumbup:
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    Re: Please help me find this amber!

    Perhaps this article will help:

    http://perfumeshrine.blogspot.com/2006/11/wonders-of-amber.html

    Also, Eden Botanical has an Amber Essence oil (ingredients below) that might give you some...
  85. Re: Non American members - Where do you buy your materials from?

    Might be 'Fair Organic / Healing Ayurveda' in Rotterdam? Ages ago I bought Frangipani from there -- supposedly 100% pure plumeria obtusa from Sri Lanka -- and it is lovely. Site looks very legit. ...
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    Re: Has my Osmanthus ab gone off?

    No date of production unfortunately.

    Brined olives -- not olive oil smell particularly.

    Not getting any apricot or leather nuance.

    I will order a new sample to compare.

    Thanks much...
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    Has my Osmanthus ab gone off?

    This sample is the only Osmanthus I have ever purchased -- which means I am not at all familiar with how osmanthus is supposed to smell.

    It's been sitting for a while in a 50% dilution...
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    Re: 4 Methy Guaiacol ?

    :thumbsup:
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    Re: 4 Methy Guaiacol ?

    Oh dear, not looking for ham! I have birch tar and the others you mentioned. Better way to go.
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    Re: 4 Methy Guaiacol ?

    Thank you Pears!
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    4 Methy Guaiacol ?

    AKA Valspice @ PA -- CAS# 93-51-6

    Can anyone tell me if has a worthwhile effect in a formula at the restricted level of .01% ? If not, what might be a safer replacement for that 'spicy, smokey...
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    Re: Chemical Analysis of Santal 33?

    [QUOTE=pkiler;4666237] .....try not to buy materials diluted in Jojoba or any other carrier oils, when formulating an alcoholic perfume, as carrier oils and alcohol do not play well, and don't...
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    Re: Chemical Analysis of Santal 33?

    Thank you! As for the carrot seed: I don't have any -- don't know what it smells like and therefore can't venture a guess if it's in Santal 33 or not. Heck, I don't even know if half the odors I...
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    Re: Chemical Analysis of Santal 33?

    I know :-) -- but I still felt it was important for me (via your good intentions and guidance) to be more specific with my posted formula so that others can explore it properly or make it even...
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    Re: Chemical Analysis of Santal 33?

    Paul, yes, I do have detailed notes on materials when provided by manufacturer....as well as some dilutions I used.

    I am happy to share, so here they are: -- certainly will make a huge...
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    Re: Chemical Analysis of Santal 33?

    Yes, numbers are drops of fluid. Again, thank you for the congrats. And I'd be very interested in hearing how your apprentice gets on with the formula.

    Oh, I forgot to mention -- the Palo Santo...
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    Re: Chemical Analysis of Santal 33?

    My other project still in the works is Rose 31 -- total bust so far, mostly because I get side tracked and start doing my own ring around the rose thing, always = a horror show of weirdness with...
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    Re: Chemical Analysis of Santal 33?

    Okay, here goes. Please don't laugh! (I'm soooooo embarrassed)
    :laugh:

    Cedarwood 15
    Cypriol 9
    Vetiver 7
    Abroxan 4
    Palo Santo 5 ...
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    Re: Chemical Analysis of Santal 33?

    Thank you, Paul! I feel it was a success too.

    Cedarwood --- YES!
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    Re: Chemical Analysis of Santal 33?

    I just made my own version as a learning exercise. Did not work from any posted Santal 33 formula, only used my nose and gut feeling as to how to duplicate this fragrance with the materials I have. ...
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