I have a Malaysian from T.Shinkou that has a decidedly motor oil opening to it.
Perhaps you could get a kick out of it. Lovely woody drydown too,
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I have a Malaysian from T.Shinkou that has a decidedly motor oil opening to it.
Perhaps you could get a kick out of it. Lovely woody drydown too,
I do not believe you will find what you are seeking at the stores you mention.
MFK - Oud is a lovely western oud however,
and likewise Roja Dove - Amber Oud (high cost warning!)
btw, perhaps it was more than chance that brought you to our doorstep.
Give the main thread a skim read, maybe there's something for you here :)
This thread is part of the Oud appreciation group.
I recently reviewed Indah Kemilau
And I was curious if any of my desriptors...
I have some Arabian Oud Cambodi wood and it is definitely painted and polished.
Surprisingly it still smells rather good.
I'm glad someone enjoyed it :)
Edward T once recommended I use wire cutters to make grain size pieces for burning,
The best Jasmine CPO (and soliflore regardless of the dillutant) I ever tried was from Amouage.
Obviously, the Amouage attars are discontinued now, but they still float about the market, albeit at a...
I'll take a stab at this
>>How do I tell the difference between good quality oil, midrange and inferior oil?
I often ask myself the same question, with the added complexity of questions...
no oud for today.
I came across this and thought agarwood addicts might find enjoyment in some experimental dendrochronology
That is a good point,
however there are deals to be found in the niche market too,
especially with certain lines and if you're open to decants.
>>That RealOud looks right up my alley too, but...
Well that's a quaint restriction.
In my experience, if a designer oud is half decent, then it is probably part of their boutique line.
Maybe you could specify the budget limit, because the...
If noone Stateside offers you an intro, pm me.
I'm in Europe, and could put together a tiny parcel with a few introductory slivers.
What is it like?
In lieu of a good Hindi?
The way oud empties the wallet, I'm open to all cost effective substitutes ;)
Thanks for the description, sounds like Gyrinops to me, minus the frankincense note which I can't relate to.
Well if you already love the JK sample and he can provide more, it seems your...
@AgarwoodIndonesia & oud distiller
thanks for the contributions
Well that would depend on the wood I'd say, whether it is filaria or gyrinops.
Maybe you could describe the profile of...
"it is best to try and keep as many of the controllable variables constant and also limiting the introduction of other irregularities such as water types. "
Makes sense, thanks.
I guess academic...
Tried a couple of oils from 'Agarwood Indonesia', via our own 'oud distiller'
East Kalimantan (Indah Kemilau)
The opening to this oil is very dense, it has a strong piercing presence. Breaking...
In that it makes me feel sexier,
I don't think anybody smelling it on me would perceive me as sexier :P ;)
To be fair I don't think I've ever read a blurb claiming that the water source affected a steam distillation.
If there is such a case perhaps you could point it out?
The promotional materials I've...
For a perfume that actually contains real oud I always suggest RealOud by Phoenicia Perfumes,
we're talking the rougher barn-pong oud type here, with some bite.
It is a small perfumery and as real...
My impression of Al-Ghaliyah:
>>There is no name or indication as to which store it came...
Oudh Qais by Al Shareef
might have the most distinct fruits I've smelt in an oud. Often in ouds there is a muddled amalgamation of fruits, creating an abstract impression, but in Qais I could...
in the meantime while we've been discussing it, the layout has changed again!
Pretty annoying really as I'll have to recheck my bookmarks...
if one has a bookmark...
Well I emailed them 3 times and never received any reply.
I can tell you that inspires little trust!
>> they'll be stuck with this short thread which has only a very small % of the total knowledge base that had accumulated over years in the original thread.
Nothing was lost during the...
SOTD Al-Ghaliyah by Al Shareef Oudh
This one definitely opens with an animalic bang; the musk in it just seems to overflow into the surrounding spaces with the sour of a barnyard oud melding...
No, simply one of those threads that refused to die.
It is a matter of different formatting, in the group each page was 10 posts,
in the forum it is 60 posts long.
If you do the math, you can...
nothing has changed really, the bulk and wealth of oud info is in three threads, this one
the older oud one http://www.basenotes.net/threads/400983-Oudh-Ud-Aoud-lt-3-erz
Easy to be jealous of that array :)
The last thing I tried and liked was Red Musk,
It is a smokey, ambery, musky aroma, one that is densely woven and very warm.
I get an overarching Indian herbal quality to it which makes me think of...
Aloes of Ish has nice blends.
If you're speaking of the ouds, I've tried a couple, they are low grade and of questionable purity.
On the plus side, communication from Aloes of Ish is excellent,...
Yes, I've been stiffed a couple of times.
One vendor actually argued the point to the death and insisted since he'd used a ruler to measure what he had sent, that he must be right.
It was rather...
Could you elaborate on the effect a speck of dead skin can have on oud oil over time?
I'd welcome any education if you are offering it.
When you say pumparounds are you referring to...
That is a completely ridiculous suggestion!
by definition a sample is 'A small part or quantity intended to show what the whole is like'.
In pefumery, unless specifically stated otherwise, the...
let us say a natural diet then.
to quote the one research papaer linked to :
Animals were fed a diet of leaves collected from the natural habitat and supplemented by artificial food...
I've been wearing Rose 31 the past couple of years for Easter,
maybe I'll go bolder with some APLS,
or I could stick to traditions and perhaps deepen Rose 31 with an oud ;)
or go old...
Purchase a jewelry scale something along the 200g x0.01g line
Sulawesi by Oudimentary
It does, thanks!
Actually my question was which is the oud listed between the Green Papua and Dark Papua, it seems to be another UNS, but I can't make out the writing?
Regardless of expertise, it still makes for...
I tried searching older posts and can say the search function is still not working.
Thank you for the chart.
Is it Magnifincense Dark Meghalayan under the CO2?
What is between Green Papua and Dark Papua?
For context, if I may,
I'll just post some of the description you...
Yes I am aware of the internal demand in China, and that mortality rates were high in the beginning of trials, and the musk inferior to wild.
I was wondering if advancements have been made over the...
I'd not thought of that.
Although if one were to wait for the natural course, and pick out old deer that had died,
one would think their peak musk production period would have already passed and...
Welcome back MrP!
I was recently searching a copy of the oud flow chart you'd once made showing your ouds and the connections you'd made between them.
The links to it had long expired, the group...
That does sound interesting!
Sounds good to me.
There are different philosophies and comfort levels. Personally, I'd like my musk blood free.
Well, perhaps capture of the deer on...
Thanks, I am aware of Profumo.
I wasn't aware of the background story, or perhaps only skim read it.
It is pretty clear he got his musk from killed deer btw.
The Marco Polo story about gathering...
No I have not,
Baieido are one of the premium brands so I'm sure you'll be happy,
however I believe the consensus on the forum was that their quality has declined somewhat over recent years.
Unfortunately, it seems Japanese incense is not as widely available in Europe as it is in the States.
Also, U.S. companies will not (can not) ship out incense containing agarwood.
And when you do...
Thanks, I am aware real musk is no longer used in mainstream perfumes. It is however still used in perfumery, other fragrant constructs, and TCM.
Musk is not yet extinct, and its use has not...
probably an improbability but is there such a thing as ethically 'harvested' musk available to buy?
To further clarify I do not consider pods that come from culled Siberian populations as...
thank you for providing these images,
it is great to get some visuals of resin formation under physical inducement.
Personally speaking, I would have liked to see a cross-section of...
Good luck! If you run into a Hindi like Yunus, let us know
>>actually its ok for a tree to have a rotten core... because the heart of most old trees are dead.... if you saw down some old growth koompassia or dalbergia...
"I think I may have contaminated my sample or something with my own body oil, the opening smells like a sweaty, pungent gym bag now"
Is that your natural scent? :P
Delicious Scent indeed :)
Sultanul Oud have one, Tarakano
I've not ried it myself
>>Saudara agarwoodindonesia said is accurate , that center piece is rot and it shouldn't be considered as Oudh,
Which piece precisely?
What am I looking for?
"reminds me also of the green oil kyara scent as Oud Yusuf does"
I know each piece of wood can differ, and that each nose perceives differently,
but I'd just like to offer a counterpoint...
And old article linked to years ago,
but I think a link to it should find a suitable home here in this thread:
Here is the latest copy from Ensar:
“In Thai, luew refers to the immediate surface area of the infection site on an agarwood tree. The second batch was a select kyen distillation of...
Orgoglio italianO -
Amouage had an attar, the Al Andalus which was very much inspired by western fresh colognes.
Think of it as Chez Bond with a spicier Arabian character.
That one would be my...
kc3dl, it wasn't that bad. I was most surprised by the pretense and stalling... Usually vendors with substandard items fold very fast.
I'm going through a more unpleasant one right now.
What is Kyen?
Equally important in knowing who to trust, is knowing who not to trust.
I bought from norlinda72 off Ebay, I found the regular oud to smell nothing like oud so I sent a response:
and P'Eau is a limited edition
I'd love to get some retrospective oudification,
as such I would appreciate the opportunity to try past legends such as Borneo 3000, Oud Royale, Kyara Koutan, (old) Thaqeel, maybe Royal Kinam.
"I asked TWIS if they would also consider partnering with EO as they have done with AA. Hope to get a positive response on that some day because TWIS offers oud oils in .75 ml bottles,...
@bluemoon has exceeded their stored private messages quota
I'm glad I made you smile, :)
and here I was thinking only kyara could do that :P
Which do you find to have a chocolate smell to them?
EnsarOud has new chips on his site
I'd not be deterred by the description.
I've read through it a couple of times and from what I see,
only 2 points are made:
a. West Papuan oud...
I believe the butane question has been previously answered.
I recall reading it when I went through the thread.
If I may say so, I consider the Di Parma decidedly mediocre. I'd not waste any pure oud on layering experiments with that one.
I've not retained a complete memory of the Zegna, but from what I...
I believe Trygve lives in Oman and has a distillation set-up there, and spesialises in frankincense.
I wouldn't mind trying her frank oils :)
I tried it, unfortunately I picked an oil with a leathery/motor oil top note...
The method seems to enhance the top note experience, very much like eating top notes,
an aroma burst...
From Zahras a while ago actually
I have some Dehn Al Oud Cambodi,
It is cambodi only in name. Think of it in terms of a lower quality Hindi, a harsh powerful barnyard open which shifts to a woody hay base. I've not worn it in a...
Yes, Marion's writing is lovely, I wish she still contributed. She is missed...
Also this for regions
Locale, volume and pricing of the Patchouli should have meant it was genuine.
If even that one was counterfeit, then there is little hope of any honest transaction with the vendor ever
What were the other oils you got?
I believe there was once mention of them having both synthetics and naturals. Obviously when shopping for naturals one would want to know what is pure and what not.
@kc3dl interesting combo,
I'd think you'd want to be precise with that kind of mix, i.e. mukhallat mixing,
or have you at least pre-diluted some of the components?
Best of luck in getting your oud GCMS project funding. I hope you get the ball rolling soon.
No doubt when you do get to it, some of the 100 samples you mention will prove to be less than...
Perhaps then, you could align yourself with Kyarazen's spirit of openly sharing the knowledge.
You could publish your findings with guiding notes on your upcoming webpage,
or add to...
as a matter of interest.
peculiar practices are at least interesting.
Also if there is anything vaguely convincing about the reasoning one could always replicate on a micro scale with a lesser and...
"He did say in the clip that you don't have to use expensive oils, cheap oils are fine. He is using the cheapest he could find."
I never thought otherwise, and I don't see why anybody...
I think the tendency is to move away from the larger Arabian orientated houses as one's experience deepens,
so probably mosy have not tried the products you refer to. It is not that...
Plausible! I do get a menthol feel in the opening stage, and later on I'd say the herbal sweetness I smell has a similar cooling effect such as menthol.
Last time I...
Agar Attar review
Upon application there's an unmistakable oud barnyard pong that reaches out, but not far enough to be intrusive, and after half an hour that 'off-note' is completely gone, it's as...
Olfactory fatigue is a temporary phenomenon. Smelling a new oud on the first day wouldn't impair your ability to smell it the second, not unless you were taking a swipe...
I don't get visions, and as a general rule not even isolated images,
but I'd say a comparable experience to me is one of suspension,
where wisps of the aroma distract you from daily routines; ...
re aged patchouli...
@Scrumdiddlyupmtious nice pics!
Nice to see Agarwoodindonesia offer his own stamp of style. I like it.
I've never thought of Kritsana Pa and Purple Dervish as relatives.
I'll have to...
I've been happy with both the quality and pricing of Proudstyle products so far.
Being in the EU it works for me. I can't use SKS because shipping and import duty would tip the balance....