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    Re: Agarwood oil thread.

    AlshareefOud- Thank you very much for sharing this interesting information. It is very exciting to get a peak at what goes on behind the scenes :-) I have two bottles of the same oil and I'm going...
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    Re: Agarwood oil thread.

    Mr. P- You've spent decades paying close attention to a wide variety of essential oils, in addition to your experiences with ouds, and you have a marvelous facility for identifying obscure notes and...
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    Re: Agarwood oil thread.

    Mr. P- It is swell to see you here! What a hoot! Welcome back :-)

    Gulab SIngh Johrimal sells an attar called "Gull" which, to me, smells very similar to Mitti. The earth note is weak, less dry and...
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    Fantastic, Grant. It is so wonderful to have the search function and post numbering back!

    - - - Updated - - -

    Grant- it seems that the search function IS NOT working :( Can this please be...
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    For those who are concerned about customs...

    For those who are concerned about customs problems, I'm happy to say I received 2 separate packages from Al Shareef Oudh this week. Neither of the packages were opened and all the contents were...
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    Tarik- Thank you very much. I am truly sorry that...

    Tarik- Thank you very much. I am truly sorry that I don't feel adequate to the task. I feel as though I've run out of adjectives :-)
    Oshaunasy - Yes, I do.
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    HI, Amar. Thanks! Good to hear your voice, too....

    HI, Amar. Thanks! Good to hear your voice, too. I'm grateful to everyone for the information I learned about international shipping and was happy to share my good news about the safe arrival of my...
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    I have an idea. Will PM you.

    I have an idea. Will PM you.
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    kc3dl- Any new news on your shipment? Do you...

    kc3dl- Any new news on your shipment? Do you have any idea what the $250 payment request was for?
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    I, too, received a package from Taha- opened by...

    I, too, received a package from Taha- opened by customs but its contents arrived intact. The interior shrink-wrapped box that contained the bottle of oil was not opened by customs- only the exterior...
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    Thanks very much, kc3 and Jd. I wish I had...

    Thanks very much, kc3 and Jd. I wish I had something constructive to contribute.
    The only new thing I've found is the following, which was dated November, 2013. ...
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    Thank you very much, Thomas S. On the positive...

    Thank you very much, Thomas S. On the positive side, the outpouring of concern and support for the affected sellers and customers who haven't received packages is very heartwarming.
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    AlShareef- In January, 2014, a package from ASAQ...

    AlShareef- In January, 2014, a package from ASAQ was opened by customs. The product paper wrapping, the box sleeve, and the box were opened, and the bottle of oil arrived loose on the bottom of the...
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    I just found this, dated 2/5/15:...

    I just found this, dated 2/5/15:
    http://www.cites.org/sites/default/files/eng/app/2015/E-Appendices-2015-02-05.pdf
    When a species is included in one of the Appendices, all parts and derivatives of...
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    Andrew- you're right. I'm sorry. I've edited my...

    Andrew- you're right. I'm sorry. I've edited my post.

    Thanks for sharing this information, Taha. Perhaps Jawed will join basenotes and tell us about his distillation philosophy.
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    A few attempts have been made to bring the forum...

    A few attempts have been made to bring the forum back to what I hope is its focus- a discussion of oud and agarwood.

    Let’s continue to ask questions with the sincere intention of eliciting new...
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    Agar Aura's Baghdad review Although Lubani...

    Agar Aura's Baghdad review
    Although Lubani awakened my interest in frankincense-based mukhallats, Agar Aura’s Baghdad has made me a devotee. Its smokiness oozes with incense-laden resin; hay mounds...
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    Fungamong- I have 2 Papua oils that were...

    Fungamong- I have 2 Papua oils that were purchased in bottles decorated with gold "columns" around the glass. I had to use a wrench to remove their screw caps. The oil under the cap, around the...
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    masstika- Do you pay by paypal? You may have a...

    masstika- Do you pay by paypal? You may have a good case to get a refund if the seller isn't cooperative. It's a shame you might be forced to use it in a mix if that wasn't your original intention in...
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    masstika- are you reluctant to show the seller...

    masstika- are you reluctant to show the seller the photos and request a full refund when he receives the wood you mail back to him? Do you trust him to say he received the wood if you send it (more...
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    If you're not sure, don't burn. When you're sure-...

    If you're not sure, don't burn. When you're sure- burn :-)
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    Ta- Maybe W. Malay chips will be in my future :-)...

    Ta- Maybe W. Malay chips will be in my future :-)

    badr_: Thanks for the heads up
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    Ta- thanks very much. I knew the region was...

    Ta- thanks very much. I knew the region was important but I didn't real to what extent. It's much easier for me to classify oils by their scent than woods. To me it seems as though there's quite a...
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    Great questions, Fung. I'd also like more...

    Great questions, Fung. I'd also like more concrete definitions. I know CITES has mentioned the need for standardization.

    Ta- You write "For me, its very simple. The age of the tree (i.e. the age...
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    Thank you, kyarazen. Any acuity I may have...

    Thank you, kyarazen. Any acuity I may have developed is due, in large measure, to your thoughtful teaching. I don't say this to pat you on the back but because I believe that we can learn so much...
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    I think Sulani is a fine oil but it doesn't have...

    I think Sulani is a fine oil but it doesn't have the same effect on me.
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    Oudhiferous: The original Oud Royale. Only once,...

    Oudhiferous: The original Oud Royale. Only once, but it was an unforgettable highlight :)
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    Oudhiferous: You say you do not claim to be an...

    Oudhiferous: You say you do not claim to be an expert but a connoisseur. Wiki defines connoisseur as “…a person who has a great deal of knowledge about the fine arts….or an expert judge in matters of...
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    Subitism Haiku :) My sleeve waved wildly...

    Subitism Haiku :)

    My sleeve waved wildly
    Subitism flew floorwards
    By gosh- it survived!!!! *


    *dish chipped but burning mechanism was fine. Whew!
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    Fungusamongus- I've thought a lot about personal...

    Fungusamongus- I've thought a lot about personal responsibility in consuming rare resources. I don't feel as though I have more "right" than someone in a future generation to smell these things, nor...
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    Oudhiferous- I just read your blog entry about...

    Oudhiferous- I just read your blog entry about “Green-oil Kyara” and “Green Kyara Oud oils”. I have a few questions that maybe you would be kind enough to answer.

    When defining “the green kyara...
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    In August, 2008 I purchased the version of...

    In August, 2008 I purchased the version of Thaqeel that people really liked, the one referred to by Kyarazen in his writing. It's become known as the "first version" because, as Kyarazen mentioned,...
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    Kyarazen- that's one crazy looking power supply!...

    Kyarazen- that's one crazy looking power supply! I hope you have a little red wagon to tote it around from place to place :)
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    Ta- yes the fine points of the tweezer scratch...

    Ta- yes the fine points of the tweezer scratch the plate a little bit but not enough to impair it's usefulness. I tried a chisel and it gouged the mica. Overlaying an extra plate, as instructed by...
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    Thomas S.- Thanks for the suggestion. A while...

    Thomas S.- Thanks for the suggestion.
    A while ago I looked up what cleans resin off saw teeth and isopropyl alcohol was recommended so I tried it and it took off some of the resin but not all. ...
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    Thomas S- I've tried it. Didn't work for me but...

    Thomas S- I've tried it. Didn't work for me but maybe it will work for someone else.
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    kyarazen- To say "you're welcome" is an...

    kyarazen- To say "you're welcome" is an understatement. I really didn't make any meaningful contribution at all. It is I who should be thanking YOU for allowing me to watch the different stage's...
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    Kyarazen’s Subitism Burner- "Better than sliced...

    Kyarazen’s Subitism Burner- "Better than sliced bread!" and more!

    Kyarazen’s Subitism heater lives up to and surpasses everything its maker claims.
    It burns wood at a temperature that prevents...
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    Please check out the website of the new Imperial...

    Please check out the website of the new Imperial Musuem in Hong Kong.
    http://www.imperial-museum.org
    Under the “Collection” tab are two galleries- “Aloes Gallery” is devoted to entirely to...
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    Kynam- I'm sure it's difficult to contribute to a...

    Kynam- I'm sure it's difficult to contribute to a forum when you feel limitations are imposed by a lack of fluency. I applaud your determination and thank you in advance for whatever posts you write...
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    Agarwood Indonesisa- Thanks for your comments....

    Agarwood Indonesisa- Thanks for your comments. Most of all, congratulations on completing your distillation! That sounds like an enjoyable combination of notes :)
    A little over a week ago you wrote...
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    AI- thanks for the clarification.

    AI- thanks for the clarification.
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    masstika- Thanks for burning some more wood. I...

    masstika- Thanks for burning some more wood. I suppose it shouldn't be surprising that the pieces vary so much. I'm sure if I nipped off a piece of wood from a branch of one of my little crabapples...
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    Kyarazen- I just read your illuminating post on...

    Kyarazen- I just read your illuminating post on Mon-Koh. The precise directions and accompanying photos were very instructive. Thank you!
    (And I learned that wood smells less clear when burned in a...
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    I'm sure everyone has figured out that deadcrow12...

    I'm sure everyone has figured out that deadcrow12 is Gregg. Thanks for posting :)

    Of course nature isn't standardized so it's easy to understand why different pieces of wood, even from the same...
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    masstika: I, too, have been sampling some of...

    masstika: I, too, have been sampling some of Gregg’s woods- from Sulawesi, Bangka Islands, Aceh, Cambodia and the Maluku I’ve previously mentioned. It's interesting how differently we perceived the...
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    Orgoglio ItalianO- I'll PM you. I miss Simon,...

    Orgoglio ItalianO- I'll PM you.

    I miss Simon, too. I hope he's doing OK.
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    okonos- why are you asking about Jinkhohouse of...

    okonos- why are you asking about Jinkhohouse of all the many sites that sell chips?

    edward_t- what do YOU think is the possibility that kyara could be sold for that price? :)

    A few things I...
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    edward t- have you tried any of Gregg's wood? See...

    edward t- have you tried any of Gregg's wood? See ORS for a review of his Maluku. I've burned a few types and have been very happy with them.
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    Kyarazen- thanks for the tamping instructions-...

    Kyarazen- thanks for the tamping instructions- I'm going to give it a try.

    Although I consider myself to have a keen appreciation of and reverence for kyara, I sometimes wonder if I will ever be...
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    That's very reassuring, Fungusamongus. And thanks...

    That's very reassuring, Fungusamongus. And thanks for the tapping tip!
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    Thanks for the additional information, Kyarazen....

    Thanks for the additional information, Kyarazen. Google translates it as Indian Incense. Do you have any idea why?

    masstika: Coincidentally, I came across these a few days ago:...
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    masstika- Yes, it is bronze. I wish it were...

    masstika- Yes, it is bronze.
    I wish it were mine!
    Kyarazen- I can't imagine the cost of a burner from the Ming dynasty..... I'll bet a person could buy a lot of fragrant wood for the price of one...
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    I hope your distillation goes well,...

    I hope your distillation goes well, agarwoodindonesia. Good luck!
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    Apparently they've even done research on the best...

    Apparently they've even done research on the best size of the hole they drill and how far apart they should be and I think I remember reading that this varies according to the species. Here, too, is...
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    Thanks for the article, Agarwood Indonesia. The...

    Thanks for the article, Agarwood Indonesia. The descriptions of the different species are very detailed. It makes me wonder why it's said that so little wood that's for sale is identifiable (without...
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    Karazen: Are the Chinese brass and bronze...

    Karazen: Are the Chinese brass and bronze bowl-shaped like the one pictured below meant for burning a particular type of incense? Some of them are quite large....
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    YW, Ipp. Personally I prefer to stay away from...

    YW, Ipp.
    Personally I prefer to stay away from words like "honesty". We can say that, based on our experience, someone has charged what we consider to be a fair price and we can say that a...
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    Kynam- Of course people have favorite sellers and...

    Kynam- Of course people have favorite sellers and it's natural that if a person enjoys someone's products they will try to promote them, not only because they want the person to succeed but also...
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    edwardt- glad to hear your sinuses are better. Do...

    edwardt- glad to hear your sinuses are better. Do you have a favorite sandalwood oil? If so, why do you especially like it?
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    CONGRATULATIONS to Kyarazen on the launching of...

    CONGRATULATIONS to Kyarazen on the launching of his long awaited website, kyarazen.com, a website devoted to the dissemination of information about "the rarest wood on earth"- kyara and agarwood....
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    masstika- According to Summit's Managing...

    masstika- According to Summit's Managing Director, "ISO 3518 of 2002 is the current standard, requiring minimum levels of a- and b-santalols at 41% and 16% respectively to be classified as A Grade...
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    masstika- just found out there's an organization...

    masstika- just found out there's an organization called the "International Standards Organization".
    "Popular name for International Organization For Standardization (IOS), a voluntary, non-treaty...
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    masstika- Thanks for the ash-cleaning...

    masstika- Thanks for the ash-cleaning instructions. I had followed the instructions on the Incense warehouse site which recommended 350 degrees for 12 minutes. I will try it at the higher temperature...
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    abdulhakim: Here's a link to ready made mica...

    abdulhakim:

    Here's a link to ready made mica plates:
    http://www.essenceoftheages.com/acces/kodo.html
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    In 2008 I purchased some Vanuatu sandalwood that...

    In 2008 I purchased some Vanuatu sandalwood that was so repulsive I trashed it. Recently I decided I'd like to try Vanuatu sandalwood (Santalum austrocalidonicum) from another supplier. I ordered...
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    Oudramatic- I use the mica plate when I'm burning...

    Oudramatic- I use the mica plate when I'm burning thin, small pieces of wood on top of the ash mound that covers the buried charcoal. When the wood is very dense, or a large piece, I place it on the...
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    Maybe it's my imagination but I've found that I...

    Maybe it's my imagination but I've found that I have better success burning wood on ash-covered charcoal, where the ash approximates the shape of a pyramid (I don't want to call it a Kodo cup because...
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    Whoops, Ta :-) Thank you. If you don't have any...

    Whoops, Ta :-) Thank you. If you don't have any extra to sell it's a shame because I think other people would enjoy them.
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    Review of Agar Aura's sinking East Borneo chips...

    Review of Agar Aura's sinking East Borneo chips
    Taha’s sinking Borneo chips are a delightful reminder, especially during this frosty, frigid spell, that Spring is just around the corner :) I have...
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    Kyarazen- nice job! Congratulations :)

    Kyarazen- nice job! Congratulations :)
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    Agarwood Indonesia- Do you think Cites employees...

    Agarwood Indonesia- Do you think Cites employees are part of the "Agarwood Mafia" or do you think they get their information from them?
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    Sparky- After reading Taha's comment I kept...

    Sparky- After reading Taha's comment I kept imaging my bottle of Borneo Kinam creeping out of the drawer on 4 legs with little antenna sticking out of the cap :-)
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    Roaches I usually shun But Tarakan oils I...

    Roaches I usually shun
    But Tarakan oils I coddle and sun,
    In my house I abhor ‘em
    In my bottle I hoard ‘em
    And I'm bugged when my stash is near done.
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    Taha- That isn't very good news- it kind of makes...

    Taha- That isn't very good news- it kind of makes me feel that I should "stock up". I've recently been burning some sinking Cambodian I purchased from you a while ago. If I'm feeling a little on edge...
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    Kynam- the last post was mine. By "thanks for the...

    Kynam- the last post was mine. By "thanks for the reference" I meant that Thomas' comparison of Encens Imperial to Idrees gives me an idea of what Encens Imperial smells like.
    I was interested in...
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    Thomas S.- I have had the chance to smell Idrees...

    Thomas S.- I have had the chance to smell Idrees so thanks for that reference :-)
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    Edward t and Taha- thanks for the explanation....

    Edward t and Taha- thanks for the explanation. "Muana" has such a lovely sound- like gliding through liquid gold.

    Thomas and Taha- Finding those floral notes in oud is a strain for me. My...
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    Thomas S.- "Muana" doesn't seem to be a word in...

    Thomas S.- "Muana" doesn't seem to be a word in any of the languages it's possible to look it up in using Google translate. Because of the meaning attached to it in the oil's description, I'd love...
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    Taha- I especially enjoy it when a wood changes...

    Taha- I especially enjoy it when a wood changes its scent over the course of burning and when it's possible to smell distinctly different categories of notes. I've just about finished the Cambodian...
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    Taha- ...

    Taha- http://www.auroma.com/catalog/ProfessionalEssentialOils/CamphorEssentialOil/
    Supposedly Dryobalanops aromatica from Borneo
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    Fungusamongus- The only oils I know that have...

    Fungusamongus- The only oils I know that have been made by destructive distillation are birch tar and choya ral. To me they both have a very pungent, smoky smell. I wonder if that has more to do with...
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    Kyarazen- yes, I can smell it! I wish the videos...

    Kyarazen- yes, I can smell it! I wish the videos were longer ;) That's quite a nifty burner- I'll bet the mica plate eliminates the problem of the burning metal smell produced by some electric...
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    Masstika- Thank you for sharing the meanings...

    Masstika- Thank you for sharing the meanings behind the architecture of mosques. Many Persian rugs are also miniaturized representations of heaven and earth.

    In your discussion of Encens Imperial...
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    http://www.collegeart.org/pdf/artbulletin/Art%20Bu...

    http://www.collegeart.org/pdf/artbulletin/Art%20Bulletin%20Vol%2027%20No%201%20Aga-Oglu.pdf
    An article primarily about a particular type of ancient domed Islamic incense burners with some...
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    I just read that Gregg King's "Ali's Roadside...

    I just read that Gregg King's "Ali's Roadside Lozenges", that contain Burmese agarwood harvested in 1998 and 2002 Mysore sandalwood oil amongst other rare ingredients, was crafted from a...
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    Happy New Year! Over the past year the woods...

    Happy New Year!
    Over the past year the woods and oils I've sampled have made me marvel how nature, and nature and man together, create scents that are capable of soothing my soul, stimulating my...
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    MoPAT- ASAQ refers to their 50 year old oud, as...

    MoPAT- ASAQ refers to their 50 year old oud, as well as their 80 yr old oud, as Kalakassi, which apparently means "Special Black". According to a salesman ATBM contains the 50 yr old Kalakassi oil...
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    Congratulations, russian adam. I wish you lots...

    Congratulations, russian adam. I wish you lots of luck with your business and hope that you're able to distill, source and make available many oils that are as promising as the Thai distillations...
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    edward t- thanks for the photos! One of my all...

    edward t- thanks for the photos! One of my all time favorite floral oils is a blue lotus oil that was an all glass extraction. It is incredibly clear and its surprising that it can smell both...
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    Kynam- words like "green", "woody", "leathery",...

    Kynam- words like "green", "woody", "leathery", "gourmand", etc, are often used in the description of perfume. The essential oil of galbanum is the most often used example of a "green" fragrance....
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    Thanks for the clarification, Edward. Now I...

    Thanks for the clarification, Edward. Now I understand that you weren't talking about a paste. Those look like substantial chips :-)

    Wouldn't it be fun to go on an agarwood tour? To visit...
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    Taha- many thanks for your elaboration about the...

    Taha- many thanks for your elaboration about the best wood for distillation purposes. Your post, and Kyarazen's posts and photos, are extremely helpful in making sense of things. I'm so grateful that...
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    Gregg made a delicious amber-y incense that...

    Gregg made a delicious amber-y incense that contains Burmese agarwood from 1998. For more information and a partial list of its fine and rare ingredients check out ORS: ...
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    str8- I'm glad your ouds are maturing nicely and...

    str8- I'm glad your ouds are maturing nicely and you haven't noticed any disappointing changes. Hopefully your future experiences will continue to be entirely gratifying :-)

    edward t- My bottle of...
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    str8shooter- I get your point, but since top...

    str8shooter- I get your point, but since top notes have been lost in some oils it's a question worth exploring :-)

    I'd love to hear a description of the 1982 oil you smelled if you're in the mood...
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    Here are some .5 ml vials...

    Here are some .5 ml vials
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-5ml-Glass-Test-Vials-w-cap-/220744841812?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33656afa54

    The caps, unfortunately, have a cavity on the underside....
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    A couple of things I found about dry ice: 1) it...

    A couple of things I found about dry ice:
    1) it is not very reactive and in particular not flammable
    2) "When dissolved into the underground crude oil, the carbon dioxide will significantly reduce...
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    Sparky and gltasn: Thanks ! I'm sure that's a...

    Sparky and gltasn: Thanks ! I'm sure that's a better approach than what I've been doing. If only there were a way to color the gas without affecting the oil.....

    edwardt- is dry ice...
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    Fungusamongus- that's an interesting idea. As you...

    Fungusamongus- that's an interesting idea. As you said- it would take a lot of faith, but so does what I've been doing ;)
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