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    Re: synthetic molecule with a salty aroma?

    Aldehyde C12 MNA smells also salty
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    Re: Cannabis in perfumery

    Ja das kannst du laut sagen, habe den letzten Monat zwei Bestellungen dort gemacht weil er so viele Raritäten hat. Er ist wirklich nicht billig, aber die Öle halten dann auch wirklich jahrelang.
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    Re: Cannabis in perfumery

    I tested a few german suppliers, for me Maienfelser is very reliable. Meanwhile, I buy all my essential oils from them. I donīt have the Frankincense you are interested in, i have the Frankincense...
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    Re: Weak cedar accord

    Cedryl acetate ( smoky cedarwood ), Timberol ( very dry woody note, also noticeable in the top ), a tiny bit Eugenol ( spicy - woody, gives body)
  5. Thread: Acetates

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    Re: Acetates

    My favourite is cedryl acetate or / and cedrenyl acetate, itīs the ultimate smoky cedarwood scent...dry, woody, smoky.
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    Re: Best aroma-chemicals suppliers in Europe?

    I have a few more wishes, i need : ethyl propionate, basilic synth., Iralia total, woody furan ( trisamber ).
  7. Thread: scent of salt

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    Re: scent of salt

    I have aldehyde c 12 mna and i thought the salty note came from a wrong storage and is an off note, but i found it very appealing and did not dump the juice. Oddly enough, in the description the salt...
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    Re: Best aroma-chemicals suppliers in Europe?

    Hi Hermitage Oils !
    here are my suggestions:
    Dimethyl benzyl carbinyl acetate, terranol, tabanone, jasmolactone, paradisamide, jasmin pyranone, guaiacol, olibanol, amyl vinyl carbinol, cosmone,...
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    Re: Campfire/smoke aromachemical?

    ....and for an aromachemical guaiacol.
  10. Re: Fragrance for a man... not woody... ?! I need help,please!

    Or go into the resins ! benzoin, tolu-balm, Labdanum, myrrh, frankincense ! Or go into the leathery with vanilla abs, birch tar, cade oil, oakmoss.
    What about Chocolate abs or Coffee Co2.... Look at...
  11. Re: Fragrance for a man... not woody... ?! I need help,please!

    Ok iīll have a try : for the top notes yellow mandarin eo, bitter orange and lemon myrtle, and maybe a
    bit rosewood ( linalool ! ) for the lift, red pepper or white pepper. For the middle notes,...
  12. Re: Fragrance for a man... not woody... ?! I need help,please!

    Jutta, your post reminds me at my beginning days when i played around with essential oils. I had a tremendous amount of it, but i never made a proper or wearable "perfume" with it. Ask my husband, he...
  13. Thread: scent of salt

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    Re: scent of salt

    Wow ! What a great Xmas gift ! Many thanks Paul ! I really have to try it out now.....!

    Conni
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    Re: Good MUSK combos?

    Thanks for the detailed answer Chris and JungleNYC !

    Conni
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    Re: Good MUSK combos?

    In commercial perfumery there is often used the term "White Musk". Is it a single material or a combination of musks or is it an accord with other materials and which materials are used for a "white...
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    Re: The Smell of Rain in the High Desert

    And what about some attars ? Mitti attar and probably some Gill attar, smells like baked earth. White Lotos aromatics has it in stock.

    Regards
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    Re: Need more projection / sillage

    Phenyl ethyl acetate gives a sweet honey note.
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    Re: Wonderful smoke tincture: DIY

    HI Jeroen !

    That sounds really interesting, i īll try this as well ! I have everything at home and iīm searching for an incence smoke accord for ages, thanks for sharing !

    Btw i guess you can...
  19. Thread: scent of salt

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    Re: scent of salt

    This is far more disturbing.... I should wait until the weather conditions change that i can dilute it outside as well.
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    Re: scent of salt

    David, your advice makes me a bit nervous, but iīll do my best to spill nothing !
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    Re: scent of salt

    Dimethyl sulphide, thatīs interesting ! Thanks David !
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    Re: scent of salt

    Paul, no i havnīt tried to make a salt tinkture because for me salt has no odour.
    But maybe it is worth tinkture some unpurified sea salt, i mean that still slightly wet grey sea salt from an...
  23. Thread: scent of salt

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    Salt accord

    There are good advices already given here,
    but iīm fiddling on a salt accord for ages. Any other new suggestions, David, Paul ??

    Regards Conni
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    Re: Cannabis in perfumery

    Hi Oveis, it is in the link iīve posted, the first item ( Hanföl, äth. ). Click at the first item and you see the botanical name cannabis sativa.
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    Re: Cannabis in perfumery

    Hi ! I bought it from Marienfelser Naturkosmetik here in germanyhttp://www.maienfelser-naturkosmetik.de/xt/index.php?cPath=23_31&XTCsid=e54acdcb73286bd6c193a66642750c42 He has some quite rare...
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    Re: Cannabis in perfumery

    Last week i bought an essential oil made from fresh THC free plants. It doesent smell like cannabis smoke but like freshly crushed cannabis plant leaves or flower buds. Even from THC free plants, the...
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    Re: Fresh, light vetiver fragrance

    Methyl pamplemousse ( gapefruit acetal ) ? It has a fresh bitterness and should be a booster for vetiver accords. And a tiny bit cardamom eo, gives a little camphorous medical twist. Instead of the...
  28. Re: Had anyone ordered anything directly from PENTA?

    Normally such big companies donīt sell at private persons, theyīll ask for a trade or the presentation of a business license. If you donīt want to order overseas, here is an address in germany...
  29. Re: The Search for Green Tea Givco! Humbly Needing Help

    I would like to chime in for 30 ml if possible.

    regards Conni
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    Re: Ideas for non-citrus topnotes

    David, you are not picky, iīm always grateful to learn something ! What would we do without the experts here, who have learned it from the beginning.
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    Re: Ideas for non-citrus topnotes

    Sorry if iīm wrong, i took it over from the Perfumers Apprentice site, there they are all listed as top notes. For Pharaone on the Givaudan Ingredients list they write "it gives lift and freshness to...
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    Re: Ideas for non-citrus topnotes

    i looked on my ingredients list and found some non-citrus fruity ones, here you are:

    -verdox - fruity, green apple, woody
    -allyl caproate -pineapple, with rum nuances
    -fructone - apple, fruity,...
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    Re: Strange Stable Scents?

    my suggestion: animalic, leathery - castoreum, wet leather - methyl quinoline para
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    Does anyone know a reliable supplier for original indian Attars in Europe or Uk with shipping to Germany ?
    I would like to order Attars from White Lotus Aromatics but iīm not sure if they sell to...
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    Re: Medicinal topnote desired

    Thank you Chris and Otocione for your ideas, the wintergreen smell is something that really lacks in my collection, and tea tree, yes a woody tea tree smell, that is worth a try, thanks ariodant !
    I...
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    Re: Medicinal topnote desired

    hehe, yes when i can get the hands on it, but i guess the opening in Tubereuse criminelle has somewhat from eucalyptus or mothballs, i read a few reviews.
    But mothballs, yes, that has something.
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    Re: Medicinal topnote desired

    I donīt know how phenolic or cresolic smells, though it is a common term in perfumery...
    Bandaids is a good suggestion, but iīm not sure if guaiacol works in the top note as well.
    With the...
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    Medicinal topnote desired

    You can smell it in White oud, Montale and Sel de vetiver - i would like to create a topnote with a medicinal and somewhat dry salty and harsh opening.
    Are there any chemicals or naturals known for...
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    Re: Guerlain Apres L'Onde

    I got both, the replacer is very similar to the real heliotropine. The only thing to mention is that the replacer has a light brown colour.
    Regards
  40. Re: Tips on avoiding olfactory dissonance with Bergamot and Lavender

    The last time when i made a fougere accord, i noticed the same, especially with lavender eo. So i tried to replace the lavender eo with dihydromyrcenol. The result was much better. I ony use one or...
  41. Thread: using oud...

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    Re: using oud...

    i dilute all my sticky stuff with dipropylene glycol. You can use the dilution pure in your blend or you can dilute it further to 10 % with ethanol.
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    Re: using oud...

    Hi,
    derived from Montale Perfumes, try turkish or bulgarian rose absolute ( diluted of course ), or a rose / sandalwood attar, safran absolute/ essential oil, vanilla absolute, somalian frankincense...
  43. Thread: Scent of Sand

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    Re: Scent of Sand

    Hi, try also Ultrazur ( marine specialty ). Givaudan wrote: "clean ozonic air with sun dried tropical woods, inspired by a visit by the islands of the indian ocean, reminicent of walking on the...
  44. Re: Nootkatone as a VERY effective bug repellant

    Thanks Chris,
    but too expensive for my own limited scope...

    Regards Conni
  45. Thread: scent of salt

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    Re: scent of salt

    Sel de Vetiver is indeed very addictive.
    I played a bit around with some ingredients and found out that
    methyl pamplemousse, cardamom eo, clary sage eo, aldehyde C12 mna, Elemi, Lovage tincture,...
  46. Re: Nootkatone as a VERY effective bug repellant

    iīm very interested too, wondering where to get it. Not for its bug repellent qualities but for use as a grapefruit note in room fragrance.
  47. Re: The effect of time on formula - my last lesson

    VERY interesting article jsparla, thanks for sharing !

    Regards
  48. Re: First time, first post-- Ambroxan/alcohol mix?

    Cool David, thatīs the clue ! :thumbsup:

    My father mentioned some time ago that his ambroxan tincture might be to weak. I was surprised, my opinion that could not be, because it is mentioned at...
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    Re: Cost Effective?

    Hi, do it yourself perfume making is not an inexpensive hobby, and it is the point of view how thoroughly you will practice it. Over 2 years i gathered more than 300 ingredients, the more complex...
  50. Re: How to build a smooth citrus accord based on chemicals

    Gosh, thatīs huge indeed. Interesting link Chris, with the olfactory descriptions of various citrus oils they produce...and i never heard of red mandarins !

    Conni
  51. Re: How to build a smooth citrus accord based on chemicals

    Thank you gido for your input. I thought with citrus oils iīll destroy my blend. But as you all use it, iīll give it a try and need to expand my ingredients list a bit. But iīm still wondering what...
  52. Re: How to build a smooth citrus accord based on chemicals

    Thanks David,
    for the next time iīll give orange and tangerine oil a try and hedione is a good idea. Maybe i īve overdone it with the citral.

    Conni
  53. Re: How to build a smooth citrus accord based on chemicals

    Thank you Chris, you always be very helpful ! Need to play around a bit with the ingredients i keep.
    By the way what is PEA ?

    Thanks
    Conni
  54. Re: How to build a smooth citrus accord based on chemicals

    Chris, i did not know that citral is restricted, interesting. I have following citrus related chemicals :
    -Citral
    -Lime oxide
    -Lemonile
    -Methyl Pampelmouse
    -Orange Power
    -Orange Crystals...
  55. Re: How to build a smooth citrus accord based on chemicals

    Ok, i try to explain. I read in an article, donīt ask me where it was, a perfumer referred about citrus ingedients: in professionel perfumery they donīt use natural citrus, orange, bergamot and...
  56. How to build a smooth citrus accord based on chemicals

    Ok one think that may not be so difficult, but i always have the problem to build a really natural and smooth citrus accord based on chemicals. I normally use citral, but for me itīs too harsh and...
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    Re: Perfume recipes

    Paris by Yves Saint Lorent, maybe....
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    Re: Recreating the smell of snow and ice?

    I would recommend ethyl salicylate. It has a sweet wintergreen odour and a cooling aspect. Iīm not sure but i guess
    "Bogner snow man" has that wintergreen smell in combination with juniper.
    ...
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    Re: What does Frankincense smell like?

    In my opinion, for frankincense counts the older the better ! I keep a ten years old frankincense resinoid, that smells like fresh lit church incense. Resinoids smell much better to me, more resinous...
  60. Re: Just got my tincture of pure ambergris - uhhh this stuff is vile!

    Hi Cerel !

    Did you ever smelled civet cnc ( Firmenich ) ore indole on its own ? I really smells vile. But traces ( in a high dilution ) in a jasmine or floral blend ( for example jasmine sambac ),...
  61. Thread: Olive wood?

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    Re: Olive wood?

    Also found : XerJoff - Casamorati 1888 - Fiore D'Ulivo and L’EAU au Masculin by Lolita Lempicka. Seems that it is a bit rare note in perfumery. I wonder what chemical would be responsible for itīs...
  62. Thread: Olive wood?

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    Re: Olive wood?

    Hi Otocione,

    you can look at the site "Fragrantica", there you can look under "notes" ,you find a list with perfume notes. Then scroll down to the woods and mosses, there you can find "olive...
  63. Thread: Olive wood?

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    Re: Olive wood?

    Hi otocione,

    how would you describe the smell of the fresh olive wood ? Would be interesting, as that note is sometimes found as an accord in perfumery !

    regards Conni
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    Re: Diluting Frankincense

    Thatīs odd. This should not happen. On the bottle is witten : frankincense essential oil, boswellia carterii. All my frankincense essential oils dissolve completely in ethanol. Saripatates is right...
  65. Re: Advice Re: L'Occitane Cade & Creating Woods Fragrances

    Hi Mysterion,
    first welcome to our forum ! iīm a big wood lover of myself and a very beginner as well and since our experts here havenīt answered to your question maybe some older theads are...
  66. Re: Advantages of mixing Essential Oils and Synthetics

    Very good post Chris, interesting that i often use those chemicals, but it isnīt always quite clear for me how they work an a blend and how to use them to alter the character of a perfume.

    Conni
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    Re: cedar/woods question

    Hi Chris,
    wow, many suggestions, iīll try thujone when iīll get my hands on it, maybe i try cedarleaf, it should have that thujonic scent.
    Iīll try out the tincture even it is only of beech... and...
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    Re: cedar/woods question

    Hi Chris,

    i have Vertofix and i wonder that in that article it is mentioned to enhance a cedar note. For me the scent of Vertofix reminds me more of vetiver.
    What i miss in all cedar related...
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    Re: cedar/woods question

    sorry, double - post....
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    Re: cedar/woods question

    Searching for any Cedar- related chemical, i found something about alpha-cedrene. I know that Texas and virginia cedar e oīs contains a lot of it ( about 20 % ? ) but if you could work with it alone,...
  71. Re: Oils that improve with age - how, which, when?

    I got a ten years old frankincense Boswelia carterii resinoid from my father and it smells like fresh lit church incense. Because it smelles so good, i bought several frankincense resinoids from...
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    Re: Scent to make car smell nice?

    Leather key accord or suederal from Perfumers Apprentice, or another good smelling leather perfume oil. That suederal is a killer, very authentic and elegant.

    regards Conni
  73. Thread: Organ

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    Re: Organ

    :grin::grin::grin:

    Ok that was a bit dumb formulated from me but i really have 3 little perfume organs, each one for top, heart and basenote ingredients. I should load a foto. I `ve had one organ...
  74. Thread: Organ

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    Re: Organ

    I keep mine organ in three parts, each one for top, heart and base ingredients. Within these parts i divided them in olfactory families. Within that categories they are ordered alphabetically....
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    Re: Fragrance Labelling Question % alcohol Vol

    When i was about four or five years old, i drank perfume, as well. My parents took me into the hospital because they didnīt really know how much i drank, but i only sipped at the bottle. I survived...
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    Re: cedar/woods question

    Found something about the chemistry about Cedar scents : here page 85.
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    Re: cedar/woods question

    I have same problems. I love all woodsy odours and currently iīm working on a cedar blend. I have norlimbanol or timberol, it is great, but it smells both ambery and woody. I would like to have a...
  78. Re: the best source for the best quality ingredients

    I know hekserij and Parfumers apprentice they are great and i can also recommend a german site for aromachemicals: http://www.riechstoffe.com/Shop/ some chemicals are rare to find and minimum order...
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    Re: Want a good laugh?

    Toilet water ? :shocked:
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    Re: Anyone ordered from New Directions?

    Very informative site, Doc Elly...thanks.
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    Re: Milky, Creamy Lactones?

    Try also "isobutavan" from Linda. It should give a sweet, and creamy vanillic or white chocolate character, cream soda with a soft apricot scent. Isobutavan is less dominant than vanillin or ethyl...
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    Re: how to evoke a stronger wood accord

    Thanks Roy, for your suggestions and advise, iīll try it out ! :wink:
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    Re: how to evoke a stronger wood accord

    For all ingredients i used a 10 % dilution. I made it with drops from a 1 ml pipette.
    Ok, here we go :

    Top note: Apple and Citrus

    Citrus :
    - citral 20 (drops )
    - Cyclal 10
    apple :
    -...
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    Re: how to evoke a stronger wood accord

    Hi Roy,
    in the fragrance with the cedarwood - accord, i used in the base
    iso e super, galaxolide and cedramber, but also ambrettolide. Maybe ambrettolide was a bit too much.
    Should i switch to...
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    Re: how to evoke a stronger wood accord

    Today i searched in some shops which are selling essential oils. I found " hibawood oil ". The good scents company noted :
    " fresh sweet cedarwood, woody, dry, cedar, sawdust ". It is steam...
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    Re: how to evoke a stronger wood accord

    Is it possible to order chemicals from Linda, which are not listed in the online shop ? Didnīt know that. I have a wishlist of a few aromachemicals which are not listed in her shop. Perhaps i should...
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    Re: kenzo perfumes

    I guess the aromachemicals smell more natural than some naturales itself, i think thatīs the clue.
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    Re: how to evoke a stronger wood accord

    I have oxyoctaline, love it ! It smells a bit like frankincense
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    Re: how to evoke a stronger wood accord

    saripatates,
    this is exactly what i wanted, must safe that link, i havnīt seen that before ! Thatīs great, now i can search in the categories and get the chemicals i need for...!

    Aldehde C 8, i...
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    Re: Perfume project - Skara Brae

    Swapping samples is an idea ! I sign with you when iīm satisfied with my fragrance !

    Just a quick note to your Skara brae fragrance, a cold effect you can create with minty or wintergreen...
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    Re: how to evoke a stronger wood accord

    Yes Scottb,
    there exist many of that sandalwood generater like ebanol, javanol, sandalore and so on. But there is a lack of cedarwood generater aromachemicals, and itīs difficult to get them. Iīm...
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    Re: how to evoke a stronger wood accord

    Hallo Mandarinchen ! Hast du evtl. eine Bezugsquelle für Timberol oder Timber Propanol ?

    Gruss
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    Re: how to evoke a stronger wood accord

    Cetalox, itīs from Firmenich i guess,.. must have that. I read that it is very powerful and makes strong dry and woody notes, sounds very useful !

    Thanks
    Conni
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    Re: how to evoke a stronger wood accord

    Ok, i have Patchouli oil, i try it out, i like Patchouli too.

    Thanks
    Conni
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    Re: Perfume project - Skara Brae

    Hi, thatīs a great project, i planned something similar, with sea breeze, seaweed and sun dried woods !

    Sandy and oceanic can you create with Ultrazur or marine specality. For a Grassy - scent you...
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    Re: how to evoke a stronger wood accord

    Thanks Scottb, i did not know the chems, i write them down on my wishlist....!
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    Re: how to evoke a stronger wood accord

    Yes i used 100 % Essential oils, Virginia cedar, atlas cedar and texas cedar. I used them not pure, i diluted it with alcohol before mixture them in the fragrance. In the base i used Iso e super,...
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    how to evoke a stronger wood accord

    Hi, iīm new here.
    I ordered a few chemicals and essential oils to experiment a bit.
    I love woody fragrances, especially cedar or hinoki wood. DG Light blue for example has cedar in the top note and...
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    Sticky: Re: Welcome to Just Starting Out...

    Hi, iīm new here,
    iīve been lurking for a few days on that forum and decided to sign in. After watching a special movie my dad started to mix fragrances with essential oils. I was curious and...
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