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  1. Re: When was the original (1980) Patou Pour Homme discontinued?

    PPH was discontinued in 2001 by Procter&Gamble. Prive was created for US market and only a single batch of Prive edt was ever made in October 1994. Hope this helps.
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    Re: New Vero Profumo - ROZY

    re: Sugandaraja
    I'm ok with challenging perfumes - for example, I love wearing MAAI more than I do Rozy in VdE. What matters to me is how the notes are integrated within the composition....
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    Re: New Vero Profumo - ROZY

    The quality of Rozy is superb however, the musky/honey note in Voile d’Extrait's base soon starts to dominate the composition and is far too persistent for my taste. Apparently, she likes using this...
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    Re: Dior Homme Parfum!?!?

    A solid boozy woody frag. Much prefer this release over what is currently sold as DH & DHI.
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    Re: Patou pour homme reissue

    To David:
    In 2011 I met Jean Kerleo twice at Osmotheque and got that info from him. P&G dumped PpH when they took over JP, they were only interested in it if they could make a ton of it which was a...
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    Re: Patou pour homme reissue

    'Those who wore it fresh in the 80s...' PpH was still produced in 2001 so anyone could wear it fresh in the 00s too.
    The orig. PpH had a dry bitter herbal edge, loads of oakmoss and bourbon...
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    Re: Arabian Oud Prince Diaminy

    I'm not saying PD is made of chemicals, I've no problem with the concept of the fragrance or the other notes however, once all the 'good things' are gone what remains is this single ingredient which,...
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    Re: Arabian Oud Prince Diaminy

    That depends on whether you enjoy it enough to part with the cash. Both Diaminis def. have a big wow factor.. unfortunately, the main fixative that gives Bandzile Diamini its unreal longevity and...
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    Re: Arabian Oud Prince Diaminy

    Here are notes for both attars:

    Prince Bandzile Diamini - clove, orange blossom, himalayan balsam flower, egyptian musk, frankincense


    Prince Majahonkhe Diamini - wild rose, oud, clove,...
  10. Re: *Campaign to Bring Back Patou Pour Homme and Pour Homme Prive*

    Unfortunately, they only brought back the name Patou Pour Homme and no doubt will profit from its reputation.., but not PPH - the fragrance.
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    Re: Patou pour homme reissue

    Imho, the new PPH is more of a floral oriental closer to, say, Nino Cerruti PH (1979) rather than NY or BdP. A very nice scent, I'm tempted to buy FB but personally would never recognize it as PPH. ...
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    Re: Patou pour homme reissue

    The new PPH is nothing like the original regardless of what Mr Fontaine has to say..I had bottles from 2000-2001 which did not turn.
    I like the new PPH a lot however, as a PPH reissue, it is a...
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    Re: What would be the best italian fragrance??

    Tabac by Profumo
    Richwood & Kobe by Xerjoff
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    Re: Niche Quality Designers

    There is no such thing as 'niche quality'. Imho.
  15. Re: If you were to go with just ONE oud based fragrance ?

    King Fahed Blend is the best I have smelled so far.

    As for all the pseudo-oud frags, it's difficult to pick one.. I find Incense Oud by Kilian quite nice.
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    Re: looking for a carnation perfume

    No. 2 Oeillet by Prada

    http://www.basenotes.net/ID26123513.html
  17. Re: Discontinued or gone: Few frags you're still mourning

    You can purchase books about perfumes at L’Osmothèque but not perfumes, not sure where you got that info.

    ...An essential advantage of L’Osmothèque’s conception was (and remains) that the...
  18. Thread: Balafre

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    Re: Balafre

    The vetiver in Balafre is of the soapy variety, the kind you'll find in Corinto's Vetiver, for example. Only treemoss is listed among ingredients, no oakmoss if I remember correctly.
  19. Thread: Balafre

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    Re: Balafre

    I don't have this any more so I'm going on memory here.. I would classify this as a smooth elegant fougere rather than chypre. If you like soft and subtle green frags I would def. recommend Balafre...
  20. Re: Luca Turin's error is that he doesn't award any points for quality ingredients

    Just because a perfume is made of synthetics doesn't mean it's a low quality product. Most natural ingredients are dirt cheap, anyway. However, if you are able to distinguish between various...
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    Re: Pure Distance M

    I never cared for this much. My first reaction to it was 'I smelled this before'. I found it a little heavy-handed, abrasive and lacking finesse. Yes it is persistent if that's what you're after and...
  22. Thread: Uh-oh.

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    Re: Uh-oh.

    Re IFRA: This is a private production made by the man himself and is not for sale (only Patou owns the copyright) so I suppose Jean Kerléo doesn't give a monkey about restrictions on oakmoss and...
  23. Thread: Uh-oh.

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    Re: Uh-oh.

    AFAIK, it is not available for sale, only a very small quantity was made, I will know more when I visit Osmotheque again on 17 Sept. Will report back. It was made using the original formula, no IFRA...
  24. Thread: Uh-oh.

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    Re: Uh-oh.

    I don't divide frags into formal, clubbing, oldman, modern, 20somethings....and all that nonsense (Imho). It either smells good to me or not. I wear PPH with formal attire, jeans, t-shirt, pyjamas,...
  25. Thread: Uh-oh.

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    Re: Uh-oh.

    It was made by Jean Kerléo himself.
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    Re: Uh-oh.

    Would love to know the names of your much better ones...
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    Btw, there exist a fresh batch/small quantity of PPH EDT made in...
  27. Re: Where to find empty 30ml or 50ml atomizers at retails?

    cheapest I've found

    http://www.exoticfragrances.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=857
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    Re: Indian Sandalwood oil

    Not necessarily. India still produces tons of the oil. Imho, the problem is quality, not all Mysore S. is equal. I.e. the wood that is used often isn't old enough to yield fine oil and therefore I'd...
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    Re: Patou Prive - Mission Impossible?

    Hi Ed,

    According to Mr Kerleo only a single batch of Prive EdT was produced in Oct 1994, and was intended for the US market. The regular PPH was discontinued much later, in 2001.

    ...just...
  30. Thread: Oud Over-Kill?

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    Poll: Re: Oud Over-Kill?

    The more choice the better, I suppose, nobody's forcing me to buy anything if I don't like it.
    I used to get irritated when a frag with *oud* in its name contained no real oud but nowadays I just...
  31. Re: *Campaign to Bring Back Patou Pour Homme and Pour Homme Prive*

    I don't know anything about Designer Parfums Ltd however, if

    Jean Patou’s stable of fragrances will be faithfully reproduced in line with original formulations, bottles, packaging and imagery.
    ...
  32. Re: *Campaign to Bring Back Patou Pour Homme and Pour Homme Prive*

    I haven't had much time to follow the BN forum recently so perhaps this info is not entirely new but still - as of July 2011 Jean Patou Paris has a new owner a British company called Designer Parfums...
  33. Re: I need something Gourmand like Pure Havane by Thierry Mugler

    I've tried PH only once and found it to be yet another cheap synthetic smelling garbage. It kinda reminded me of Bogart Pour Homme (the new one in the grey box) which has a great lasting power and...
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    Re: CREED - "to be or not to be"!

    Or perhaps just another useless Creed thread? Windsor isn't available at Creed shop in Paris. I wonder where you tried it then:)
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    Re: Patou Ma Liberte?

    Bokaba, I don't think my nose is more sophisticated than yours at all. I'm glad you find Ma Liberte a good substitute for Prive. I find them somewhat similar in the opening accord but to me their...
  36. Re: Patou pour homme and prive:aftershave edition

    PPH AS is to me like a b/w picture of a rainbow, half the stuff that makes up the accord and all that is so special and unique about the EdT is missing in the AS - just my opinion, of course. Where's...
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    Re: High price: Worth every penny

    King Fahed Blend without the fancy crystal bottle is £650/3ml in London. If it's worth every penny is irrelevant to those who find it exceptional and are willing to part with the cash, regardless...
  38. Re: After a long battle..... (Sycomore vs. Encre Noire)

    I'd def.go with Sycomore. Smells more natural ( a bit like my bourbon vetiver EO toned down), it's softer, a little smoky and more understated compared to EN which can often project a bit too much...
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    Re: Patou Ma Liberte?

    I agree with your description in that Liberte def. shares echoes of Prive in its opening notes and I wish this opening accord (esp the beautiful accord of lavender & spices) lasted well into its base...
  40. Re: *Campaign to Bring Back Patou Pour Homme and Pour Homme Prive*

    Anyone tried contacting J.M.Duriez at JP Paris and asked if there's any chance of them making, say, a single batch of PPH? He has a lab in the lower ground floor of the boutique. I imagine they...
  41. Re: *Campaign to Bring Back Patou Pour Homme and Pour Homme Prive*

    Ed is right, he speaks fluent English and is still a busy man. Btw, Osmotheque website is down at the moment as it's being upgraded. They recently also opened an Osmotheque branch in New York.
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    Re: Mysore Sandalwood essential oil query

    If you meant the Mysore from the first link, then I believe it's the real thing and I like it better than Lawless Mysore but then again it's much pricier - she's asking $330/15ml. I wouldn't waste it...
  43. Re: *Campaign to Bring Back Patou Pour Homme and Pour Homme Prive*

    Website is a good idea or maybe a f/book page? As for the contact info, he didn't say he would want to get involved in the campaign or that I could pass on his contact details so.. - it's best to...
  44. Re: *Campaign to Bring Back Patou Pour Homme and Pour Homme Prive*

    Osmotheque doesn't sell any vintage perfumes, you can buy some books on perfumes, their history...there. It's quite possible you could find some vintage perfumes in Paris (in old pharmacies, some...
  45. Re: *Campaign to Bring Back Patou Pour Homme and Pour Homme Prive*

    You bet it was..got some goodies too:happy: He's a really nice guy.
  46. Re: Pure Havane now available to people in the UK?!?

    I saw it at Sephora in Paris last week, along with Pure Malt. It's quite strange you'll have to wait till June if it's already sold in the EU.
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    Re: Mysore Sandalwood essential oil query

    Thanks, Trebor, I've also heard good things about this seller and believe they're pure/unadulterated. It's the quality I'm concerned with (esp. for the price), I've smelled some aged Tamil EO (2002)...
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    Re: Mysore Sandalwood essential oil query

    I bought a bit of Mysore from this seller http://www.kgstiles.com/moreinfo/sandalwoodmysore.htm it's from a 2004 distillation, smooth but pricey and very quiet (compared to Lawless s.). I wonder if...
  49. Re: How much do discontinued Creed fragrances go for? (Selection Verte)

    SV isn't discontinued.
  50. Re: *Campaign to Bring Back Patou Pour Homme and Pour Homme Prive*

    I guess, a good reformulation would not be a problem for Jean Kerleo but the question is how much would P&G be willing to spend on such a thing. I hope if they ever decide to bring it back they will...
  51. Re: *Campaign to Bring Back Patou Pour Homme and Pour Homme Prive*

    Here's some update - I didn't post this earlier as I didn't take my laptop with me and only got back from France last night.

    This info was given to me by Mr Kerleo when I visited Osmotheque last...
  52. Re: best fragrance to wear when your done writing a 25 page essay and are completely drained

    Philly cheese blunt
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    Re: The most over priced house !

    In terms of price vs quality of the juice it would have to be Nasomatto for me. Anything I've sampled from this company I found to be loud, annoyingly harsh, synthetic smelling and devoid of any...
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    Re: The most over priced house !

    Oh no, not again one of these:rolleyesold:


    Let's see: CREED 'Selection Verte' - 8.4 oz (250 ml) - $365.00

    (your) Tom Ford 'Tobacco Vanille' 8.4oz (250ml) - $465

    I personally prefer...
  55. Re: *Campaign to Bring Back Patou Pour Homme and Pour Homme Prive*

    :dankk2:I believe, this thread deserves to be made a 'sticky' one.

    Basenoters power!:thumbsup:
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    Re: Word of Warning - PATOU POUR HOMME - ebay

    Yes yes, any sellers with sealed PPH bottles? I'd be interested too:)

    Also, is there any fair/markets/old chemists in Paris where vintage parfums are sold/can be found?
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    Re: Most Excited For...?

    Yes, Richwood is the sh¥t..so is Habit Rouge extrait & BdI - some very good taste you have there:)
  58. Re: *Campaign to Bring Back Patou Pour Homme and Pour Homme Prive*

    Thank you! Please keep the emails going:thumbsup:
  59. Re: *Campaign to Bring Back Patou Pour Homme and Pour Homme Prive*

    http://www.exero.com/viva/fashion/jeanpatou.htm (the interview continues on the next page)
    http://www.beautyfashion.com/archives/LOsmotheque.html
    ...
  60. Re: *Campaign to Bring Back Patou Pour Homme and Pour Homme Prive*

    I'm not an expert on this but gas chromatograph might perhaps reveal what ingredients were used in a blend although I'm not sure it'll tell you how exactly they were blended and in what order etc. ??
  61. Re: *Campaign to Bring Back Patou Pour Homme and Pour Homme Prive*

    Hopefully, next week I will be able to ask Mr Kerleo re PPH, its composition, ingredients, possible reformulation (given the current restrictions) without compromising its key features/character,...
  62. Re: *Campaign to Bring Back Patou Pour Homme and Pour Homme Prive*

    David , you have to understand that what you perceive as similar/identical/superior isn't necessarily shared by other people. I don't perceive PPH A/S as much being superior to EdT at all nor have I...
  63. Re: *Campaign to Bring Back Patou Pour Homme and Pour Homme Prive*

    @nineXseven - If you're enjoy hunting the vintage frags then that's you choice and more power to yo. I went through the vintage perfume collecting esp with PPH in the recent years but I think your're...
  64. Re: *Campaign to Bring Back Patou Pour Homme and Pour Homme Prive*

    I guess, we could go on like this forever... This was just a recent effort by two BNers to prompt/organize a small campaign in order to bring PPH back, it's the least thing anyone could do, send an...
  65. Re: *Campaign to Bring Back Patou Pour Homme and Pour Homme Prive*

    Where did you get this info from? I've seen boxes of PPH that looked like they'd just left the factory and def. did not seem 20+ years old. P&G bought JP in September 2001, the old Basenotes website...
  66. Re: *Campaign to Bring Back Patou Pour Homme and Pour Homme Prive*

    Don't agree with David - if it was such a huge flop why did it remain in production for 20 years??

    nineXseven - there are tons of frags that are in limited production as exclusifs..(Chanels,...
  67. Re: *Campaign to Bring Back Patou Pour Homme and Pour Homme Prive*

    Of course it would have to be reformulated however, the accord is so good and unique, imho, that I'd rather have it slightly altered than forever keep asking and searching for 'something similar to...
  68. Re: *Campaign to Bring Back Patou Pour Homme and Pour Homme Prive*

    Thank you, that is some great news. Count me in, we need to start bombarding P&G again with emails requesting reinstatement of these two great fragrances.
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    Re: Patou Pour Homme on eBay

    I've had 4 splash bottles of Prive and never noticed any degradation of the juice at all, they all smelled the same. However, I've had some bottles (1 splash and 2 or 3 minis) of the regular PPH with...
  70. Re: What are the closest fragrances to Patou Pour Homme and Prive?

    I've worn PPH for several years now and while I love Dunhill 30, it smells nothing like PPH.
    Re pine note - afaik, Gucci Nobile has no pine note listed either, still you could refer to some aspect...
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    Re: Patou Pour Homme on eBay

    Aromi, if Kerléo did the reformulation, I believe, it would blow your socks off.:)
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    Re: Patou Pour Homme on eBay

    The only answer I ever got when I contacted P&G:

    As a company, we constantly monitor all of our products' popularity and when a product shows a decline in sales... etc.

    I just sent them the...
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    Re: Patou Pour Homme on eBay

    Welcome!:)

    I guess, we should blame the buyers. On Saturday someone bought a bottle of PPH on UK Ebay - for £700:rolleyes:
    ...
  74. Re: What are the closest fragrances to Patou Pour Homme and Prive?

    As every little child knows or should know, it was the great Jean Kerleo:)
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    Re: Xerjoff Reviews Thread

    Interesting. I'm a little jealous now, I wish Richwood smelled like a piece of sandalwood on my skin as well. The candied citruses up top are rather short-lived on me too, although to my nose...
  76. Re: What does pure oud smell like? M7, Amouage Hommage Attar, Jubilation XXV, Epic Men

    moreda - I don't know what you can get from the ME, perhaps it's a different oil, but the stuff sold in London Selfridges & Harrods as Al Khaloud defo doesn't smell like pure oud to me either - some...
  77. Re: What are the closest fragrances to Patou Pour Homme and Prive?

    I wish you were right, it'd have saved me a lot of money as Blend 30 is less costly and can be found often on German ebay.
    Not even close though, Blend 30 is more of a straight up piney green frag,...
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    Re: Windsor selling out...

    A western mass production house incl. Creed may purchase raw materials from a supplier if they need to. Of course, Creed fragrances aren't all natural. If you want to believe the big ME houses offer...
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    Re: Windsor selling out...

    "Venkatesha Gowda,
    who works for the R&D Dept. of Karnataka Soaps & Detergents Ltd., a long-time
    manufacturer of sandalwood soap, maintains that in spite of the official figures
    (14 tons/annum...
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    Re: Vetiver 48 and VT on eBay

    This 48zoran guy and his auctions are a joke. 10ml decant of vintage Tabarome + a few more Creed decants.. $300. 10ml of Dhofar + a couple of Xerjoff samples he got for free - $135. Arsene Lupin...
  81. Re: P*ssed Off with French Arrogance !!! LVMH B*STARDS

    Exactly same thing happened to me twice in Feb. Just don't list it on the EU Ebay, use the US ebay.com instead.
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    Re: The most fashionable, 'hip' fragrance

    The best you'll ever find, get it while you can.

    http://dlx.blogg.se/images/2009/manic-love-woman_500x500_54413942.jpg
  83. Re: P*ssed Off with French Arrogance !!! LVMH B*STARDS

    Could this be the old issue with certain browsers like Opera and Ebay" You get the usual:

    "Unfortunately, access to this particular category or item has been blocked due to legal...
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    Poll: Re: Battle of the best dry downs!

    You'll find Dreamer, Fahrenheit... everywhere, on the other hand, how many people have worn PPH? The most popular/readily available frag will get most votes.
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    Re: Amouage Oud wood chips for sale?!

    I've read 1 gram of green kyara retails for up to US$400 or more.

    http://www.scents-of-earth.com/kyara1.html

    :)
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    Re: Amouage Oud wood chips for sale?!

    In fact, highest quality oud chips often command prices way way higher than US$90/100G. More like a couple of grand for 100G.
  87. Re: P*ssed Off with French Arrogance !!! LVMH B*STARDS

    Are you sure this has nothing to do with your browser/router/modem... settings? Perhaps contact your ISP? Can another person living in France confirm this? Not being able to buy vetyver anywhere...
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    Re: Amouage Oud wood chips for sale?!

    AFAIK, bakhour isn't pure agarwood but rather a blend of wood chips scented/mixed with other ingredients or fragrant oils (sandalwood powder, musk, saffron etc). Would like to know what the...
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    Poll: Re: Creed: most compliment

    For Christ's sake what's with all these Aventus threads here? A generic smelling fruity synthetic nothing, has everyone gone bonkers or am I missing something here?

    Selection Verte
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    Re: Next Vintages to Become "UBER" RARE?

    Are you looking for a good investment opportunity?:) Any of the above could become unattainable in the near future, some of them are already very hard to find (vintage n88, Blend 30, Dukes of Pall...
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    Re: I finally got a decant of Patou Pour Homme.

    there's a 60ml splash bottle on ebay, the current highest bid is only US$ 609...;)
    ...
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    Re: Released in past year that is really good?

    I don't know if it's been or will be making any waves at all (too pricey), but regardless of the price Xerjoff Richwood could be the best new released frag I've smelled in a very long time.
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    Poll: Re: Do you like oud?

    Until someone invents a time machine or discovers vast jungles full of sinking grade agarwood, it's not viable, economically, to use oud oil obtained from a high grade wood in a perfume aimed at mass...
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    Re: Age and scent categories

    +1 for restraint. I wouldn't worry about scent categories as such. Seek quality and refinement, subtlety, elegance, beauty in any of the 'categories'. Cultivate your taste, avoid vulgarity,...
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    Re: Guerlain Heritage EDP vs. EDT

    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/238501-Guerlain-H%E9ritage-Eau-de-Parfum-Review

    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/219637

    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/237315
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    Re: If you could turn back time..

    a few kilos of mysore sandalwood oil..
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    Re: Wood of the Isles - Chanel

    As you can see at the link above "Woods of the Isles" was indeed trademarked in the United States by Chanel in the 1970s.

    I'd be more concerned about the content of this particular bottle - if it...
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    Re: Wood of the Isles - Chanel

    Legit, imo. Only a complete idiot would fake it like that. Chanel PM/Chanel For Men. Plus this is a vintage bottle so the SAs won't have a clue.
    ...
  99. Re: EBAY- Creed VIW 200ml - buy it now 86,00 euros.................

    coconut body lotion....
  100. Re: Which feminine fragrance are you interested in possibly wearing?

    I wear or would some of those that have been mentioned already. The ones that haven't are from Chanel:

    Bois des Iles & Cuir de Russie in parfum + 31 rue Cambon edt
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