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    Re: Linalool vs Dimetol

    Chris and Vicky,
    I guess you could be right but Dihydro Myrcenol wasn't part of the equation ;

    For that matter, all three are similar in my opinion, yet different.

    Let's see...

    The Dihydro...
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    Re: Woody base recipes

    Perhaps the word "mould" is off? When I smell Cashmeran, it has a very strong sense of earth, which is also found in Patchouli. Odd how Cashmeran is touted as velvety smooth. I guess it is if you...
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    Sticky: Re: Fragrance DIY raw material splits

    Beranium,
    I wasn't trying to be a wiseguy when replying to you but your first AND second post to me were a bit abusive and abrasive and personal.

    I don't have any intentions of ever backing out...
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    Sticky: Re: Fragrance DIY raw material splits

    Beranium,
    You're making a blanket statement without regarding the fact that things can change AFTER the fact. Circumstances change and SOMTIMES, the people who initiated the deal can do things to...
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    Sticky: Re: Fragrance DIY raw material splits

    I backed out of a deal awhile back and I had every right to because my gut check told me to do so, period. It turned out that I had too much doubt and probably would have been safe in continuing with...
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    Sticky: Re: Splitting raw materials- please read!

    I guess you could call me a newbie when it comes to this board and it's content but I'm a veteran of forums and the older bulletin boards. I even ran a board when we had local dial ups, back in...
  7. Thread: Anosmia

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    Re: Anosmia

    lPP,
    I'm not quite sure I'm understanding what you're trying to say.
    I'm not asking a question, I'm posting my observations and thoughts and figured I'd share.
    Are you implying that nobody replies...
  8. Thread: Anosmia

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    Re: Anosmia

    lpp, I already have read just about everything in the universe regarding Hedione, including every post on this site.
    I'm still almost convinced that my Hedione is a dud, lol.
    I've been...
  9. Thread: Anosmia

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    Re: Anosmia

    I have been doing pretty well regarding detecting scents and am having fun with my aroma molecules.
    But I must say that there is no way that I smell much of anything except a vague one from Hedione....
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    Linalool vs Dimetol

    Hi,
    I was comparing Linalool and Dimetol.
    To me, they both smell remarkably similar.
    Did anybody notice this?

    - - - Updated - - -

    When I sat down at my desk this morning I took another sniff...
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    Re: Best way to dirty up a fragrance?

    David, I'm glad that you replied because I have 15ml on my list for my next order with PA. I was wondering how a skunk would enter the picture here.
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    Re: Very confusing to me - formulas

    Thanks for the replies. I see all sorts of answers.
    I am seeing what looks like concrete info from Renegade and I'll go with that. It does show that us DIYers need to have good info.

    I saw...
  13. Re: Making One's Own Molecule 01 (Straight Iso E Super)

    The perfumer's Apprentice states:

    "can use up to 10% of total concentrate"
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    Re: Very confusing to me - formulas

    David, thanks.

    You said: "Juice and final compound are the diluted fragrance for use on skin".

    But going back to my paragraph, "21.4% in the final compound to be further diluted in alcoholic...
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    Very confusing to me - formulas

    Hi,
    It seems that every time that I feel I understand fragrance formulas, something changes that thought.

    For instance...

    "Although Iso E Super is extremely popular, the International...
  16. Thread: Dpg

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    Re: Dpg

    Hi Chris,
    I hate to have to ask this again but...

    Should I dilute all of my AC's to 10% then use the diluted AC's full strength, right into a bottle without adding any more alcohol?
    TIA

    - - -...
  17. Thread: Mineral Notes?

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    Re: Mineral Notes?

    Hi,
    What was the result of trying to acquire Geosmin?
    I'm interested.
    TIA
  18. I'm very new to this but have already noticed who...

    I'm very new to this but have already noticed who some of the generous people are on this site, Chris being one of them. I appreciate all of your help and am thrilled to be able to "rub elbows" with...
  19. Beginner's attempt with musk type molecules

    So I noticed that I had 7 bottles of musk type aroma molecules and figured I'd give it a shot...I would try to identify each of them, individually. I diluted each sample to 10%

    Ambrettolide --...
  20. Re: Why aren't chemicals stronger smelling to begin with?

    Ivanita, thanks but the question is why don't they smell stronger to BEGIN with? Why don't they smell like fragrances in a store,,,,never mind, we've kicked this horse to death :)
    I do appreciate...
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    Size of bottles for dilution...

    Hi,
    I'm going to be diluting my aroma molecules.
    If I'm starting with 15ml bottles, what size bottle should I use for dilution? Same size?
    Amber Boston Round with dropper?
    TIA
  22. Re: Why aren't chemicals stronger smelling to begin with?

    The answer is...BECAUSE, lol.

    All the replies I've gotten are good replies but I'm not so sure that they are the answer to my question...just ringing around the rosy. But that's okay because I...
  23. Re: Why aren't chemicals stronger smelling to begin with?

    Hi Bill,
    No, and this whole thread is getting a bit off.
    Try to think in terms of going to the store and smelling a fragrance...and comparing that experience at the fragrance counter to the...
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    Re: Water in perfume

    Not so fast... because they don't mix entirely. If they mixed entirely, they wouldn't be able to be separated again later...which they can be. So while they are"soluble", I'm thinking that they are...
  25. Re: What type bottle for diluting Aroma Molecules?

    Thanks. I've studied a lot of perfume organ photos and noticed that some bottles are brown and some are clear. Perhaps some chemicals are impervious to light? Or maybe the people haven't gotten...
  26. Re: Why aren't chemicals stronger smelling to begin with?

    David,
    I appreciate your effort but I never received the answer to my question. You may be repeating what you think is the answer but it's not the question I asked.
    You seem to be getting...
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    Oh boy...Sandalwood

    Well, I purchased a Sandalwood accord from PA and yep, I can identify with another member's description of a newly opened plastic shower curtain, lol. When I was a kid, I had this toy, where you...
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    Re: what the heck is Iso E Super

    Hi Paul,
    I meant a supplier.
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    Re: what the heck is Iso E Super

    Hi,
    Where can I get some Timbersilk?
    TIA
  30. Thread: Percentages

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    Re: Percentages

    Chris,
    So based on what I read above...

    Should I dilute all of the aroma chemicals that I have, to 10% (or is there a better % recommendation)? Would you recommend that? And if so, why?
    TIA

    -...
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    Re: Water in perfume

    The fact is that water and alcohol NEVER mix thoroughly. http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/sb-ALS-alcohol-and-water.html
    My guess is that when water is added to alcohol, the aroma...
  32. Re: Why aren't chemicals stronger smelling to begin with?

    David,
    I used the term "lay terms" in order to differentiate between speaking on a molecular level vs an average Joe type level. My intent here is to get answers to my question.

    I do understand...
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    Re: Water in perfume

    I am very new to all of this but I do read and try to find gems of info everywhere.
    I also know that this thread is old but...

    I read that aroma molecules tend to cling tightly to alcohol but...
  34. What type bottle for diluting Aroma Molecules?

    Hi,
    What type of bottles do you use for your diluted chemicals?
    Should I go with the plastic ones with dropper?
    Something else?
    Labels? What type?
    TIA, I do appreciate it.
  35. What type bottle for diluting Aroma Molecules?

    Hi,
    What type of bottles do you use for your diluted chemicals?
    Should I go with the plastic ones with dropper?
    Something else?
    Labels? What type?
    TIA, I do appreciate it.
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    Re: Aroma Chemicals hardly smell?

    "Some are strong, some aren't, and it is the learning of your tools, and combining them artfully, and pleasingly, and marketable, that makes you a perfumer."


    Fantastic!
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    Re: Aroma Chemicals hardly smell?

    Ed, I may have not explained well. I DO smell these molecules. I am quite good at distinguishing notes and everyone who knows me well gives me the distinction of being the guy who is able to tell...
  38. Re: Why aren't chemicals stronger smelling to begin with?

    Hi David, correct, you do not know what I mean. Perhaps I can explain better.

    I'm trying to keep this in lay terms...

    If one goes to a fragrance counter, they can sample hundreds of colognes...
  39. Why aren't chemicals stronger smelling to begin with?

    Hi, it seems, the more I learn, the more I NEED to learn, lol.

    A simple question: why don't these aroma molecules simply smell stronger to begin with? Why don't they all smell like EO's? Then we...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Hi Paul,
    I think I'm going to order a sample pack of your work.
    Oh, I DO smell the Iso E Super and it is wonderful IMO. It has been described numerous times on the web and the description fits...
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    Re: Aroma Chemicals hardly smell?

    Thanks everyone..

    I guess I'm going from a cologne smelling mentality to an aroma smelling situation, thinking that these aromas will smell like colognes. So it's normal for these molecules to NOT...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    I'm sitting here, wondering if I got dilutes chemicals.
    I purchased 59 of them last week and they're all sitting in a box together. The civet is truly out of this world as far as obnoxious goes and...
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    Re: Aroma Chemicals hardly smell?

    Hi Paul,
    Great info, thanks. I guess what I'm asking is if YOU or anybody else think that there isn't much to smell, right from the bottle. I do smell a mild vanilla/musk smell but very mild. Now,...
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    Aroma Chemicals hardly smell?

    Hi All,
    I'm really having fun experimenting with my aroma chemicals.
    One thing I've noticed is that some are almost unnoticable when smelled.
    For instance, Ethylene Brassylate is so mild it...
  45. Thread: Mad Scientist?

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    Re: Mad Scientist?

    Thanks so much for your generosity, I appreciate it.
    This is what I am talking about. Just simple directions that will eventually lead to success!
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    Re: Mad scientist...

    Thank you all...
    I am having fun already and am happy to have found this site. It's great to see the generosity of others.
  47. Thread: Mad Scientist?

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    Re: Mad Scientist?

    Thank you wooznib, looks like a great place to check out.
  48. Thread: Mad Scientist?

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    Mad Scientist?

    So here I am, 144 bottles of fragrance oils and 52 bottles of aroma molecules...and wondering how I'll ever come up with combinations that make scents

    Seriously, for instance, what can one do with...
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    Mad scientist...

    So here I am, 144 bottles of fragrance oils and 52 bottles of aroma molecules...and wondering how I'll ever come up with combinations that make scents :)

    Seriously, for instance, what can one do...
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    Re: what the heck is Iso E Super

    I agree, it stays close to the skin.
    I love this stuff. It reminds me of something pleasant but I can't quite put my finger on it at the moment. Perhaps the remnants of a classy, very smooth, woody...
  51. Who decides what ingredients are in scents listed in the fragrance Directory?

    I'll look at the ingredients and wonder if they are just opinions or if there is proof anywhere of these ingredients.
    Also, I realize that there are millions of combinations of ingredients out there...
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    Re: Why do some scents last longer?

    Thank you Wit,
    Do you feel that the lasting power of a scent is relative to it's price? That perhaps the finer perfumes and colognes have more concentration also?
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    Why do some scents last longer?

    Hi,
    I noticed that some scents last all day while some last just hours, if that.
    Why is that? For instance, I have some Demeter fragrances here that smell strong when first applied but very quickly...
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    Re: What molecules can I pass on?

    Okay! So I shrunk my original list quite a bit, based on the recommendations of Chris but I vow to experiment with many more synthetics in the future.
    I will also heed the advice concerning the...
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    Re: What molecules can I pass on?

    Paul, thanks.
    I actually understood your synopsis :)

    I checked out your site...nice.
    You wrote: "And most all natural fragrances seem to last for but a few hours and then they are gone. PK...
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    Re: What molecules can I pass on?

    Do you think I'm going in the wrong direction by focusing on synthetics?
    Is there a "synthetic crowd" vs a "natural crowd" situation out there? Or is there even such a thing?
    I'm reading a lot...
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    Re: What molecules can I pass on?

    Thank you very much for your replies.
    I may be showing what little I do know about things here but:

    Chris, does your list reflect YOUR personality and preferences or do you feel that most people...
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    Re: What chemicals aren't so great?

    Thank you for your replies.
    Badarun, I've done a lot of reading and I also play around with a kit that I got from Save On Scents.
    I'm not feeling the SOS thing and find that many of the fragrances...
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    Re: What chemicals aren't so great?

    sjg3839,
    Go to Perfumer's Apprentice and check out their aroma molecules. Most have a description.
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    What molecules can I pass on?

    Hi and TIA,
    I've been compiling a list of aroma molecules that may be great to have and, quite frankly, it's a daunting task at this point because I don't know which ones to grab. So I thought...
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    What chemicals aren't so great?

    Hi and TIA,
    I've been compiling a list of aroma molecules that may be great to have and, quite frankly, it's a daunting task at this point because I don't know which ones to grab. So I thought I'd...
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    Sticky: Re: Welcome to Just Starting Out...

    Hello Everyone...
    I was thrilled when I first stumbled upon this site. I was looking for the ingredients to a cologne and well,Basenotes popped up and I've been hooked ever since. Thanks to all who...
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