some perfume materials are really strange, my observings:
Could never ever smell a thing until....in my cellar it was so cold that it gone solid/crystallized...i...
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some perfume materials are really strange, my observings:
Could never ever smell a thing until....in my cellar it was so cold that it gone solid/crystallized...i...
i did get mine from a friend who collects perfume materials and also is very good at organics at his work.
If its the same as Dimethyl Cyclomor i can't say...never heard of that...
sadly i have never smelled safraleine for myself but i trust Ed Shepp when he says myrrh comes very close to it.
Today just smelled my myrrh/patchuli-hexanol again and also the...
for a nice blonde leather impression that one can smell from the start to the medium-long drydown i used a mixture of myrrh-CO2 and patchuli-hexanol.
how i came to this:
I read Ed...
no problem, my pleasure...
I have to thank you for the great materials i've got.
I only can recommend your new shop in all ways, from the material site and from personal contact.
all the best:...
nice find cause i was confused it only exists 2 versions...the old one would be the blue cover and the reprints would look like these:
but i think the original would then look like...
i just went down cellar and looked for you, my pictures look the same like yours...all pictures are pretty grainy.
Also i would think that this is normal as the original old pictures...
i first smelled the real beauty of Rose Oxide in the perfume CdG "3" it is roseoxyde-galore and its cool / metallic / rose / geranium.
After some time i got roseoxyde from a friend...
nice formula i will try it out, but i just have normal hedione and my benzylacetat is synthetic, so a bit harsh.
I just converted the formula for a 10g batch...one question:
If i sum up...
interesting thread about the heliotropin so there was something in my mind about it.
gone to my books in the Appell book it says like this:
Heliotropin made out of sassafras will in the...
another great supplier of quite some qualities is Maienfelser:
some oils are a bit pricy but worth every cent, but for understanding the different orange-oils i would...
some time ago i bought a nice orange-oil but mainly for cleaning and fat remove/sticker remove.
It has no fancy stickers on it with places of origin or terpenless and things like that......
for Alu-bottles i will ask tomorrow at Flavex-Company which make beautiful CO2-Extrakts.
(only 30km away from me and very kind support...)
But i didn't know if they have 125ml...
excuse me that you didn't see anything written by me on the Perfumers-Talk Site.
I would directly donate 50 bucks for the GC/MS of the "L'air du desert marocain".
Last 3 days i...
okay, many thanks it was just on one page with that german translation, now it works out just fine.
Also one of my favorites is "Incense Rose" also a big player at hot temperatures....
I also like Tauers masterpiece and i have it on my own..it unfolds its real beauty for me in the hottest days here in germany.
I never put it on below 30 to 35 degrees centigrade.
for me the best Cannabis perfume i ever smelled was Kerosene Frangrances "Wood-Haven".
It smelled exactly like blooming hemp as we have sometimes the fiberhemp-fields a few cities further....
some time ago i got a sample of Alpha Terpineol from a friend which was undiluted a thick liquid with a hint of pinkish colour.
Undiluted it smelled like nothing to me but at 10% in EtoH...
wonderful black-currant slightly creamy sometimes but on the other day also can be clear as sky.
When smelled closer pure also tingly feeling in the nose.
no problem, i've got mine from Streeck/Hamburg, always pristine quality.
You are from Luxemburg thats funny...then we are almost neighbours...i'm only 70km away from you... :O)
didn't you smell the green banana besides the common green, cut grass...?
My cis-3-hexenyl acetate has definitely that banana-tone but never had that maggi-sauce, salty impression in the...
back from the cellar i just smelled my indiluted isobutavan again.
First sniff i got creamy smooth vanilla with a hint of something faint cheesy.
When i say faint cheesy i didn't mean a...
problem could be that maybe one could smell little cheesy in the isobutavan and maybe 3 other perfumers not.
My isobutavan to me smells also little cheesy when pure but...
Also in the topnotes for gardenia there can be in the headspace hexenyl-tiglate (3Z)-hex-3-enyl tiglate.
(fatty-green pale/unripe apple-skin and/or green banana.)
ah, nice to know...behind my slight horsy smell i also get slight almondy.
Just for curiosity i will take my crazy benzylbenzoate and mix in my few musk-ketone crystals i have....
sometimes the packaging of perfume materials can trick you so was i.
I got raspberry-ketone in a plastic bottle and all i smelled when opened was plastic.
Good that i didn't throw it in...
some time ago i read an analysis of Eternity and after some struggle he found the special thing which was the icing on the cake.
He wrote that ethylsalicylate in very tiny amounts has done...
it even gets more impossible when you think of lets say carvone.
There are 2 forms of carvone the (S)-carvone and the (R)-carvone which one smells of caraway and the other of mint.
hopefully i didn't say something wrong but as you sayd i also assume that the C H O compounds are more common.
To speak personally in my inventory the few perfume chemicals with nitrogen...
i also got some time ago benzyl benzoate from an reliable seller who i always has gotten good perfumery chemicals...
..but this time the benzyl benzoate i got had an unpleasent smell in...
yes i have a slight remember on that topic in the past.
But as i remember it was in the end about the modern smokeless gunpowder we was looking for.
(have to search the old thread as i...
as i wouldn't know exactly of what the stains are made of it is really difficult.
But one direction i would test is orange E.O. pure on the stains with a drop of dishwashing detergent and...
i think that in this irival-base there would be some kind of ionones...
...some time ago i read an old perfumery book they said that ionones can be hard to smell on dry days.
If there is...
what about fructon/apple-ketal heard often about it should have similar scent profile.
(as i remember it is made out of ethyl-acetoacetate and ethylenglycol.)
Last times i read a book...
i have a nice coffee-co2 and i could test it for you.
But i think you prior should point me out a simple mixture with your materials get to the unwanted yellow mustard.
about the Mastic:
I also have it quite some time in my inventory and everytime i smelled it i struggled to get an impression where i before smelled that kind of scent.
To me it never...
the alpha-isomethyl-ionone i've seen on so many ingredient lists of perfumes.
I think when it is not used just prior to support orris or jasmin themes it also can act as an rounder for...
have you tried the snow perfume formula given by the user "perfectscent"...?
It is here in the forum in the thread "Snow notes".
(thx for the formula i like it very much).
As i first...
also been busy last times with quite some new projects and found out some interesting things.
I made an light tobacco/light leather perfume which had an perfume-oil content of would say...
maybe try some of the hexylcinnamal instead of hedione, could be worth a try.
i also read the Scent & Chemistry article about the hexylcinnamal it was about the Perfume "Pathetique".
I personally would say it comes pretty close to hedione but the hexylcinnamal to...
just short to see my experiment with my tolu and the bentonite.
Didn't came out as i expected so you can save your tolu no clearing as you can see.
Maybe i have more luck with my...
as i remember we had last time an thread here who the citrus-notes lasted like crazy.
And from my own experience exalts the citrus-notes.
I think its the Javanol which plays an important...
maybe i have a chance with my Millipore-Membranes as they are meant to be screwed on a syringe with a thread.
I fill the syringe prior with the colored tolu then attach the filter and try...
didn't think of the waxes, Paul is absolutely right there.
Maybe 1:1 will work too, one have to try this out.
Also with my dilution i can work with good results maybe i will try to filter...
my Tolu-Balsam rocks dissolve pretty well in 97% ethanol without bottom layer after maturating.
Just take a good ethanol.
when you say Heeley-Coccobello...
When you can get hands on these samples, try them out each on its own smelling strip.
Place them in a room near together leave the room and come back...
very interesting topic just wanted to throw my toughts in.
Last year i made a nice perfume around real osmanthus-absolue...i thought it was good but now there are 2 ingredients that i...
problem with the users of drugs is mostly they enjoy it soo much and are many times in the position of overestimate themselfes.
Nothing could happen to them because also they are well...
just found the time to read the whole thing.
(worked really good with the right jungle-sound at the right bpm.)
As many people know under the influence of the Mary-J...
with the glucam-P20 one have to be careful.
It can make the fragrance last a little bit longer also the topnotes but i had just slightly overdone it and the perfume became flat and damp....
with the PEA it could be with the quality.I have a little bottle which is labelled PEA-Extra and it smells pretty good on its own.
Then i have another sample which smells a bit...
also have to say a very good starting point.
like Paul said everyone has to find the technique which he likes best.
There is the Jean Carles method with the drops at different proportions.
Some start from the base, some...
firstly speaked of your basenotes you can go different ways.
You can look for special properties of say your musks and support these in the middle and topnotes.
For example like...
i think you failed at the Cinnamon ... O:) little joke.
With the cinnamon you have to be careful and i would add it dropwise then maturate and work with a 10% dilution of it.
I would also...
thank you for the CAS numbers.
I have a bottle in my room which is labelled only "Methyljonon" without a CAS number.
I have to call my vendor what my stuff really is cause i see the...
wow thanks for sharing, most things i have here.
But there's one thing i always wanted to understand:
Is alpha-isomethyl-ionone the same like methyl-ionone, i can remember a site that...
many thanks for your help, didn't know that.
if i can't get my hands on the alpha-cedrene can i substitute with an cedaroil or will the other ingredients in the...
very nice for your accords i like plum fragrances very much.
I have a nice shower gel from Kings&Queens it is called Sugar but it smells so lovely like you cook fresh plum-jam.
the Paris one i didn't smelled so far, i have to try.
Thanks for suggesting.
When i smell Eternity which i bought my mother i always get that slight cherry-tonation but also...
if i smelled Tresor the first time i couldn't tell a big difference to Eternity or is it just me with that perception...?
when it comes to musks i am not really that good to describe, please forgive cause i would considering me just as a child in the perfumery thing...
But Mr.Ruskin is right when our...
thanks for your replies.
With the passionfruit smell is interesting and i have one AC that smells like that (Oxane) which i think was also found as a natural occurance.
thanks for your reply that site is really interesting, there is also listed wine for the occurance of the coco-lactone.
We didn't have wine but quite some grapes as plants but i...
today i had 2 times something weird outside i smelled faint in the cocos-direction really close to gamma-Nonalactone or so called C-18.
Then i thought maybe i can detect something from my...
first time i also had just Galaxolide-50 IPM and i liked it very much.
Then here in the forum someone asked about the Galaxolide to have an berry-like tonation in it and i can agree that....
again thank you all for your help very useful hints everywhere and nice books.
thats very gentle for your help thats a really good site.
I think i will have some nice reads the next days/weeks and i have no doubt i will find there a good link for an book.
my cinnamic-alcohol smells really interesting it's only a hint of cinnamon and on the other hand juicy sugary.
But not that dry sharp impression like cassia EO.
first i have to apologize cause maybe this isn't to 100% perfume related but i am having a hard time to find something about it.
I thought when i can't get information here then...
That really sounds like my bad sample first minutes to quarter of an hour it smells right then it goes sharp pungent and sour.
My fresh one never gives an sour undertone at any stage on the...
i have a sample of hexyl-cinnamal that is gone bad.
On the blotter it smells slighlty sour mixed with damp cardboard.
Then i have a good sample of it and it smells much like Hedione but...
extracting with an Soxhlet is an interesting thing but i could imagine from that little plant material no great amounts of endproduct would come out.
What also would be very interesting if...
if i remember correctly if you use the destilled oil (maybe a special fraction) of the Peru-Balsam that would be okay.
To the experts please correct me if i am wrong.
i am also really new to the perfume-making thing say for about one and a half year now.
Through reading and per trial and error i learned a lot and the best thing about perfume it's a...
i would back down the lavender quite a bit and from the nutmeg i would make an 10% dilution and put that in drop by drop at the very end if the base formula around is good.
Don't know if...
back in time i read about "decenal-4-trans" that it can bring an sparkly cool glitter to an perfume especially with bergamot and other citrusy topnotes imparting an tremendous lift.
if we have very hot days here in germany there's nothing better for me than the classical american cologne "Florida water".
(which also is very acceptable in price.)
It smells very fresh...
My chemist teacher often said that the hair of blonde women contains more gold.
But i never found an source if this is really the matter.
The human body is a wonder of nature.
here i think i have the ingredient list:
But it is still arkward to me as it is sayd on the list:
"Zinc(as Zinc Gluconat) 50mg" but i think they mean 1 pill has 50mg real zinc...
i think i read that as well yesterday that 50mg of pure zinc could lend in poisoning over a longer period not to mention the addings of zinc with the normal food.
but i think we have to...
i know the thread is a bit older but yesterday i found an pdf with a nice list of rose-ketones which might be of interest:
(scroll down a bit for the list.)
thats very interesting with the zinc.
How long one have to take the zinc-gluconat or do you smell better just after one pill say after 1 or 2 hours...?
I also have a bit of trouble...
thank you all for your help.
I think i would make an experiment and put some of the benzyl benzoate in my living room to go liquid again.
As i remember correctly it had no odour in...
the last week i got benzyl benzoate for my dilutions of musk ketone.
It was still liquid fresh out the package and to me odourless but a day in my cellar at 15 degrees centigrade it has...
back in time i read an interesting article about an young woman who made her final exam about perfumery and tried her mixtures at Givaudin.
Her name is Melina Ehrsam and her finished...
i have Galaxolide 50 IPM and first smelled i was in love.I often read that it has that typical laundry-smell but mine solved in Isopropylmyristate reminded me of berries which i like very...
ah good i understand, thanks.
Now first i thought there could be an disharmony with one or some ingredients in your sandalwood-synthetic base with the hedione.
(as we don't sure know...
please excuse me but i didn't get the outcome of this reply.
I realised that you got an green tea accord with your mixture but the rest i don't understand.
"i have not smelled it, but it...
as my little experience goes i read a few times that if you mix hedione with ionones (especially beta-ionone) there is formed an green-tea accord which in some mixtures isn't wanted...
if i remember correctly Lilial is listed on the ingredients-list on the perfume package but under its another name "butylphenyl-methylpropional".
But that doesn't mean that melonal or...
when i first sniffed "Jardin sur le Nil" i directly thinked of my Lilial down the cellar.
To me it has that strong watery slightly floral feeling which can be smelled in many feminine...
here i have found an site about many pyrazines:
click below on the site "Pyrazine Specialties Catalog" there you get tons of pyrazine-derrivates with odour-descriptions and...
for the first question i think that just as well for professionals in the GC/MS it will get very complicated to say what starting materials are used.
As i remember as a chemist if...
with the Benzophenone there often is an confusion.
Mainly if one speakes about Benzophenone he means the AC which smells slightly rosy/slightly metallic geranium and the CAS-Number is...
last times a saw multiple tv-shows about the dumpings in the north and eastern-sea.
If your are unlucky you will get lumps of white phosphorous or the worst case some lumps of mustard-gas....
also here many thanks for your help.
I think i will see what dilution is right for me, i will start at 5% in DPG and look what is best.
many thanks for all your replies.
That last formula i didn't know, nice.
I mean that i read far back that such pistachio-flavours also could be made with some pyrazines in very high...
who else loves the smell of a nice pistachio-icecream...?
Today i wanna share some findings of an pistachio-aroma i got the last days.
By the way in my region it is very difficult to...