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    Re: Voting for Member Permanent Removal

    Yes.
  2. Re: Scent Verse: Cattedrale di Santa Maria del Fiore

    Which means what, exactly?
  3. Re: Scent Verse: Cattedrale di Santa Maria del Fiore

    No, it isn't Poetry. No rhyme, no rhythm, no metre. It is very easy to find out what is, or is not, poetry. Should you wish to write "verse libre", or "prose poetry" then go ahead, but do...
  4. Re: Scent Verse: Cattedrale di Santa Maria del Fiore

    In this series of supposed poems, I have yet to read a single one that could be described as a poem. Writing prose in unequal lines, is not poetry.
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    Re: New, simple perfume formula from Matt

    "mattmeleg" you have, on several occasions now, accused me of deliberately trying to confuse you, of patronising you and of trying to put you down. Despite my sincere denial of this, and my asking...
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    Re: New, simple perfume formula from Matt

    How dare you. I do not patronise, nor do I condescend. I have spent a great deal of time on this site trying to engage with those who share my love of Perfumery. I do this with no ulterior...
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    Re: New, simple perfume formula from Matt

    "and if you don't have any isbutyl quinoline you can replace it with castoreum". No you can't, there will be a difference as they do not smell anything like each other. That is the last time I...
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    Re: New, simple perfume formula from Matt

    Smell the two side by side, you will see that they smell nothing like each other. Don't split hairs, don't move the goal posts, just admit that your original statement was wrong. Why would I want...
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    Re: New, simple perfume formula from Matt

    All of the quinolines used in Perfumery have a green, bitter and leathery smell. They all smell different. I cannot give an accurate description of the differences, sorry.
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    Re: New, simple perfume formula from Matt

    That sounds sarcastic.
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    Re: New, simple perfume formula from Matt

    Do not change the goal posts. Your original statement was that you could replace Castoreum with Iso Butyl Quinoline. I said that they smell nothing like each other.
    Iso Butyl Quinoline has a...
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    Re: New, simple perfume formula from Matt

    Thank you for that, and for pointing out the obvious; that it is better to smell something and make up your own mind, rather than reading about somebody else's opinion.
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    Re: New, simple perfume formula from Matt

    I have not looked at the Good Scents' opinion, I do not have to. I have smelled and used both iso Butyl Quinoline, and various Castoreum bases, as well as genuine Castorium,and I know that IBQ ,...
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    Re: New, simple perfume formula from Matt

    No you can't, they smell nothing like each other.
  15. Re: New Smelly Game: Incense - Pre-Discussion Thread

    The only value a video link could have would be if everyone were able to watch as everyone smelled the same fragrance at the same time. Rather than reading the judges' comments, we could all hear...
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    Re: creating an accrd of dried fruit ??

    I always think that the Damascones smell of dried fruit, but you have those already.
  17. Thread: T K Maxx

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    Re: T K Maxx

    Just bought a 30.0 ml bottle of Grey Flannel EdT for 4.99.
  18. Re: Custom Candle Fragrance - Aroma Chemicals vs Fragrance Oils

    A perfect example where IFRA and EU regs don't agree. It would be possible, by following IFRA to have a candle fragrance with no warning label as nothing used would warrant it. However the same...
  19. Re: Custom Candle Fragrance - Aroma Chemicals vs Fragrance Oils

    Members of IFRA are found in many non-european countries, including the USA. Whilst it is allowable to ignore IFRA recommendations, although due to the litigious nature of many it is probably a...
  20. Re: Beginners Floral Chypre Formula from Matt

    Using the same ingredient at different dilutions is not illegal ( nothing is in Perfumery) it is just irrelevant.

    I have never claimed Perfumery is rocket science, although the way some folk carry...
  21. Re: Custom Candle Fragrance - Aroma Chemicals vs Fragrance Oils

    Yes it is, the legislation is different, that's all.
  22. Re: Custom Candle Fragrance - Aroma Chemicals vs Fragrance Oils

    Allergens don't really count with this product; skin sensitisers etc do. I am not able to guide you, but you need to do your own research about this. If you want to sell your products you...
  23. Re: Custom Candle Fragrance - Aroma Chemicals vs Fragrance Oils

    There is no special quality of ingredients used for Candle making. Any aroma chemical or oil that you would use in any type of fragrance can be used in a candle, assuming that it is stable and...
  24. Re: Custom Candle Fragrance - Aroma Chemicals vs Fragrance Oils

    If you are not planning to sell your candles there are very few "safety issues" to e worried about. The regulations concerning "non-skin" products, which includes candles, are much more liberal...
  25. Re: Beginners Floral Chypre Formula from Matt

    You use "jasmine speciality" at 20.0% dilution and at 100.0%. You use Dorinia as a solution and the concentrate. You use Bergamot as Top, Middle and Base (Paul mentioned this). I am with Paul...
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    Re: Server is c..r..a..w..l..i..n..g today

    Much worse than a few days ago. So slow as to be almost impossible to use. Yesterday was fine, this morning, terrible.
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    Re: solubility of osmanthus absolute in DPG

    If it is soluble in PG it will be soluble in DPG.
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    Re: A long lasting lavender oil ?

    No information as to method of application ("spray" is not good enough), nor dosage. This forum should be about give and take; you give us enough information for us to help you. I'm done.
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    Re: A long lasting lavender oil ?

    As far as I am aware, no it doesn't.
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    Re: A long lasting lavender oil ?

    Sorry I think you misunderstand me. What is the application? What is the product? If it is a linen spray then the usual dosage is about 0.5% fragrance. How will you apply this, and where?
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    Re: A long lasting lavender oil ?

    As you don't mention dosage, difficult to help any more.
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    Re: A long lasting lavender oil ?

    Microencapsulation of fragrances is a whole new ball game, and beyond the capabilities of most amateurs. It is highly unlikely that any Leonor fragrance will use natural Lavender oil as the...
  33. Re: Going to Spain: One perfume that is a must purchase?

    Whilst in Spain do look out for two lines of cleaning products (Soaps, shower gels etc.), one called "Hero de Pravia", the other "Maja". If they haven't been reformulated too much they are two of...
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    Re: A long lasting lavender oil ?

    If you can buy more than 100.0 ml at a time, the price will drop. Buying by the kilo is far cheaper than buying by the gramme.
  35. Thread: Lavender

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    Re: Lavender

    You asked the same thing on 29th September, and as far as I can see, were given some good answers. Why ask again?
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    Re: Orange blossom

    I mentioned Indole as it is present in Orange Blossom. Indolene is the reaction product between Indole and Hydroxycitronellal, and is a softer, more floral version. Indeed a useful addition the...
  37. Re: Eugenol is Heavy restricted... And clove eo?

    If I want to remove a post of mine I simply write "post deleted" having deleted what I originally wrote. No need to bother the moderators.
  38. Re: Eugenol is Heavy restricted... And clove eo?

    You are absolutely correct. There still is a confusion between IFRA recommendations and the EU's (or any other form of government's) legislations.. One is voluntary, the other is absolute. ...
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    Re: Orange blossom

    Methyl Anthranilate, Indole, Nerolin Yara Yara, Nerolin Bromelia, Oranger crystals, Nerolione, Orange Flower Ether, Linalol, Linalyl Acetate, 2-Methoxy-3-iso Butyl Pyrazine, Acetophenone, Lyrame...
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    Re: how to make fragrance tokio by kenzo

    OK, one last time. If the fragrance that is being sold under the name Tokyo, is not the fragrance you remember, and you think it is "fake" then it is not possible to duplicate the original. If...
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    Re: how to make fragrance tokio by kenzo

    You asked how to copy this particular fragrance; we told you. You were also told that the fragrance whilst discontinued is still available on-line, and is still fairly cheap. As far as I am...
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    Re: how to make fragrance tokio by kenzo

    What is?
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    Re: how to make fragrance tokio by kenzo

    Take a sample of the fragrance you wish to copy. Get a GC/MS (Gas Chromatography/Mass Spectroscopy) analysis. Use the information from the analysis to match the fragrance, after having bought all...
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    Re: Dorinia SA E - how did they do it?

    Not in the original Dorinia, no. Timbersilk did not exist when the original Dorinia was created.
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    Re: best sweet with patchouli...

    Angel, a perfect combination of sweet (Maltol) and Patchouli.
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    Re: Question on a specific chemical

    Try an accord of Dihydro Myrcenol , Allyl Amyl Glycolate and Precyclemone B.
  47. Re: Question about the relationship between molecules shape/vibration and our senses...

    That's the big question. Luca Turin would say that some molecules vibrate in just the right way for our sensors to pick up the pattern, and for our brains to interpret accordingly. Others would...
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    Re: Storing Ethyl Cinnamate

    I've never had any problems with Ethyl Cinnamate, and certainly never seen this phenomenon. How does your sample smell? I wonder if there is any Acetic Acid present (old Ethanol turning). ...
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    Re: Storing Ethyl Cinnamate

    Diluted 50.0%b in ethanol. Water in the ethanol?
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    Re: Can't smell musk

    I cannot smell Benzyl Salicylate but can smell it is a fragrance. Many can smell it on a smelling strip. I would not consider Benzyl Salicylate to beused used solely for its effect on...
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    Re: Storing Ethyl Cinnamate

    No aldehydes present. Could be some Cinnamic acid forming, but this is only a wild guess.
  52. Re: Question about the relationship between molecules shape/vibration and our senses...

    Does science know what "sound" or "sight" is? We react in various ways to stimuli that, in various ways, we perceive. No one place does the perceiving, no one place does the interpreting.
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    Re: Rose absolute

    Rose absolute is a very old ingredient. Fragrances before 1940 would most definitely have used it. No idea when the " mass production" started.
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    Re: cannabis-hashish scent

    Nothing to do with Cannabis, but I'm sure it smells wonderful.
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    Re: Vanilla scarcity + demo formulas?

    You need to get a touch of smokiness. If you can get some try some Levistamel and some Ultravanil (both from Givaudan). Levistamel smells a bit like Maple syrup, Ultravanil is smoky and Vanilla...
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    Re: cannabis-hashish scent

    To repeat myself. Try Vetikol Acetate. Patchouli will help too, obviously.

    There is an animalic, sweet quality about some hashish, so maybe, a touch of a Civet base would help with that.
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    Re: cannabis-hashish scent

    And they are there in very many other Essential oils. They would provide a generalised "herbal note", that's all. The Pyrazine may make a difference, pyrazines usually do.
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    Re: cannabis-hashish scent

    None of the chemicals shown will be responsible for the smell of Cannabis; they are all very common and found in many oils.
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    Re: cannabis-hashish scent

    Vetikol acetate.
  60. Re: The "too many guys wear it" thread: through the years

    Over the years; Brut, Aramis, Denim, Fahrenheit, Kouros, Le Male, Cool Water. In Germany, Joop. Since then a ubiquitous mix of Amber and sweet notes.
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    Re: UK Meet-Up

    Good luck, and I hope you will do well.
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    Re: Do you mix by weight or volume?

    You make a solution of your fragrance concentrate in the desired solvent (e.g. ethanol), by weight. You then fill the containers you have by volume, obviously. Once you have made a batch of...
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    Re: Do you mix by weight or volume?

    Everything is done by weight. 20.0% dilution is 20.0% by weight made up to 100.0% by weight.
  64. Re: Thoughts On Jo Malone Fragrances? Too expensive for what they are?

    Sold the company she owned.
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    Re: New from Chanel: Gabrielle (2017)

    Indeed Red, Defender of People's Perfumes.
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    Re: GCMS - Questions

    As a start I would add the amount of Lilial acetal to the amount of Lilial, and as a first trial put in that amount of Lilial. If Lyral should be there I think it would have been detected, unless...
  67. Re: New Smelly Game: Incense - Pre-Discussion Thread

    Not a good idea. I will not do this.
  68. Re: New Smelly Game: Incese - Pre-Discussion Thread

    If and when things "get more concrete", we shall see.
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    Re: methyl laitone alternative?

    Are you thinking of "Bergasol"? A sun-tan lotion containing cold pressed Bergamot oil. Full of Bergaptenes which caused phototoxicity.
  70. Re: New Smelly Game: Incese - Pre-Discussion Thread

    I still am unsure as to what an "Incense" fragrance is. I never thought of Shalimar, and cannot agree with this. I detest the smell of barbecue so cannot be objective in my judging. As nobody...
  71. Re: Women's fashion magazines pushing these fragrances hard

    That sums up the original Jo Malone, perfectly. Since she sold her company, who knows?
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    Re: Redundant to have both?

    Sorry. from they way you were writing I assumed you had.
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    Re: Redundant to have both?

    Having smelled both what do you think?
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    Re: A long lasting lavender oil ?

    My suggestion too.
  75. Re: New Smelly Game: Incese - Pre-Discussion Thread

    I agree with Adam. Judges should definitely not be paid. I don't think it a good idea for participants to have to pay, it is trouble enough for them to post their samples,
  76. Re: When did perfumes start listing ingredients?

    The only fragrance I know that was sold in a can is Le Male, which came out in 1995
  77. Re: New Smelly Game: Incese - Pre-Discussion Thread

    Choosing at random does not seem to be a good idea. Having a date after which no-one is accepted is a good idea. Once there are twenty, everyone else who wishes to participate will wait and if...
  78. Re: New Smelly Game: Incese - Pre-Discussion Thread

    You would need to know the flash point of the fragrance concentrate for that to work. I don't have the ability to dilute a concentrate , even if I wanted to. If everyone sent the concentrate then...
  79. Re: New Smelly Game: Incese - Pre-Discussion Thread

    Everyone has the right to share their thoughts. What I meant was that you were happy not to restrict the number of participants without having had to judge. More than 20 takes a long time; in...
  80. Re: New Smelly Game: Incese - Pre-Discussion Thread

    It is obvious that you have never had to judge one of these competitions. Over twenty and it becomes a chore. Agree with only one entry per competitor though.
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    Re: New from Chanel: Gabrielle (2017)

    No, it was the archangel that delivered the message to Mary, and it was Chanel's first name.
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    Re: How many naturals is too many?

    It really does depend on the fragrance type and the skill of the Perfumer. I have made an all natural fragrance that worked really well that contained about 10 ingredients, and have made others...
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    Re: hexyl salicylate in wax

    Soy does tend to dull the performance, so I would suggest adding extra toppy strong ingredients if you can; straight chain aldehydes, Iris Nitrile (if you can get it) will help to improve hot throw. ...
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    Re: hexyl salicylate in wax

    Have you not tested it to see how it performs? As far as I am concerned it works quite well, but it depends on the wax and wicks used. If you are uncertain and have the ability to do so, then I...
  85. Re: New Smelly Game: Incese - Pre-Discussion Thread

    So long as the full review is included then sniff, and video, away. If you think that will build the community spirit then good for you, and I wish you well with it. My contribution is to judge, ...
  86. Re: New Smelly Game: Incese - Pre-Discussion Thread

    Well done NebelGeist, very clear and concise. I cannot fault anything you have written.

    For the last game there were many more saying they were going to participate than actually did so; this is...
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    Re: juniper like ac

    You may be right but Caryophyllene is rarely used as a Perfumery ingredient. It is found in Clove Bud, Leaf and Stem oils, and is the major component of Clove Terpenes.
  88. Re: March 2017 smelly game - transparent, light, summer, daywear perfume

    Maybe start a new thread now, explain what you want to do, wait until you have a group who are willing to participate and then start discussions to narrow down what will be required. Accept the...
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    Re: juniper like ac

    Were they around then?
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    Re: I smell like a diaper? Really?!

    Oh thank goodness, when I read the subject I thought of a used nappy (diaper in English).
  91. Re: March 2017 smelly game - transparent, light, summer, daywear perfume

    Thank you for your detailed reply NebelGeist. Having more than one judge is to be welcomed, and I understand your desire for three; makes sense. I am not concerned about discussion, as you...
  92. Re: March 2017 smelly game - transparent, light, summer, daywear perfume

    I am undecided whether or not I wish to be a judge this time. If you can ensure reliable judges, and if you can ensure that everyone takes part and follows the rules, and accepts the judges...
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    Re: UK Meet-Up

    Sorry to have to say this, but I will not be able to join you all. Something has come up.
  94. Re: Which materials do you use for performance and not primarily for their odour impact?

    As I have been accused of being a bully I will no longer participate in this thread.
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    Re: juniper like ac

    The marine note found in many of the fragrances of the 90s was Calone. It smells nothing of wood.
  96. Re: Which materials do you use for performance and not primarily for their odour impact?

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    It is part of the smelling test that I took when I first started Perfumery. Three smelling strips are labeled A, B & C. They are dipped and you have to decide whether all three are the...
  97. Re: Which materials do you use for performance and not primarily for their odour impact?

    Please point to a post of mine that is "irrelevant" "Pharmacist Blender" (and whoever you really are). I have answered the question to the best of my ability, what have you done?

    Jasmolactone,...
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    Re: Has a thread been wiped?

    Thank you for your considerate reply. I respect that. Now, I hope you will do something about the problem rather than just thinking about it.
  99. Re: Which materials do you use for performance and not primarily for their odour impact?

    I'm probably going to regret this but...

    I did not come here to flex my muscles. I do not feel the need to do such a thing; I have nothing to prove, nor any axe to grind. Show me where I moved...
  100. Re: Which materials do you use for performance and not primarily for their odour impact?

    And all of these have a smell, and so an odour impact. The fact that no-one mentioned the odour impact of any of the materials listed, is because that is taken as a given.
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