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    Re: Gamma Methyl Ionone

    Dont belive sellers :) I have requested MSDS from the India seller you have mentioned , i bet they dont know difference between these isomers.
    Your latest url say everything.
    Short citation from...
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    Re: Gamma Methyl Ionone

    No they are not the same:

    1-Penten-3-one, 1-(2,6,6-trimethyl-2-cyclohexen-1-yl) (alpha-methylionone isomer)
    1-Penten-3-one, 1-(2,6,6-trimethyl-1-cyclohexen-1-yl) (beta-methylionone isomer)...
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    Re: Gamma Methyl Ionone

    Are you really sure David ?

    IFF:
    METHYL IONONE GAMMA A CAS 127-51-5
    3-methyl-4-(2,6,6-trimethyl-2-cyclohexen-1-yl)-3-buten-2-one (isomers)

    METHYL IONONE GAMMA COEUR CAS 127-51-5...
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    Re: Gamma Methyl Ionone

    Yes of course David. Purified does not mean pure :) Main component of Methyl ionone gamma is Methyl ionone alpha iso . I doubt there is gamma isomer, maybe in trace amounts...
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    Re: Gamma Methyl Ionone

    BTW: Methyl ionone gamma from PA is purified Methyl ionone alpha iso alias Isoraldeine. I doubt you will find real gamma isomer somewhere.
  6. Thread: Suede leather

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    Suede leather

    Hi,
    please how to create "suede leather" base note similar to "Vers la Violette" ?
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    Jasmine absolute - synthetic

    Hi,
    i would like to replace jasmine absolute in my first experiments with much cheaper synthetic jasmine. Anyone have experience with synthetic "Jasmine absolute" from ShivaExports or "Jasmine...
  8. Thread: Viola odorata

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    Re: Viola odorata

    Thanks guys ,
    here is my latest perfume formula resembling smell of Viola odorata flower - still far away from something wearable :( Any hints welcomed .

    5 Bergamot
    1 orange oil
    1 mandarin oil...
  9. Thread: Viola odorata

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    Re: Viola odorata

    Hi,
    thanks gecko, i already have 0.1% of oakmoss abs there. I know about 3 different GC MS of Viola odorata and each of them is totally different.
    ...
  10. Thread: Viola odorata

    by Milhaus
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    Viola odorata

    Hi,
    i am trying to create scent similar to Viola odorata, but i am still missing "something" in my perfume. Everything i have created is like Parma/Victoria violet more than Viola odorata. Viola...
  11. Thread: Musk

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    Re: Musk

    Thanks, combination of both could be interesting. I have ordered Ambrettolide from PW, but they does not have Cosmone :(.
  12. Thread: Musk

    by Milhaus
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    Musk

    Hi,
    can you please recommend me floral / ambery musk which blend well with Benzoin Siam/Labdanum/orris ?
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    Re: Violet accord - i am lost

    Please someone uses beta ionone in violet flower perfume and in what concentration ?
    Nearly in all Violet formulas i have found is beta ionone completely omited, but Givaudan say it is ...
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    Patchouli aging

    Hi,
    i have bought Patchouli HEART CO2 (SELECT) from hemitageoils. Because i hate patchouli earth/dirty note ( but i love patchouli in David Beckham Signature and many other perfumes ) i would like...
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    Re: Perfumer's World

    Yes i am buying AC from them. They does not have big shipping costs / like any other suppliers around 30$. I have read their Hydroxycitronellal is not good, but i am satisfied with most of their...
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    Re: The Power of Aging Fragrances

    I agree,
    for example ionones ( mostly beta and alpha, methyl ionones are better ) in violet accord/perfume are very harsh. After 3 months become more and more friendly. The same way work aldehydes...
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    Storage of perfumes in plastic vials

    Hi,
    because i have plenty of HDPE and LDPE vials i would like to use them for storage of my perfumes/concentrates ? I have no idea whether the plastic can affect the smell ...
  18. Thread: Good heliotope

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    Re: Good heliotope

    Check this formula:
    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/371960-Heliotrope-accord?p=3013334&viewfull=1#post3013334
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    Ambergris oliffac

    Hi,
    i have just received Ambergris Oliffac, it remind me Civet CNC with vanilla nuance. Do you have any example formula with Ambergris Oliffac please ?

    regards
    Milos
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    Re: Chanel No 5 Formula

    PA formula uses 50 parts/drops of patchouli at 1%=0.5 parts/drops at 100% that is true. BUT this formula contain 1000 parts/drops !!! So my calculation 0.05% is correct.
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    Re: Protecting Aldehydes

    undiluted C12-L is solid/white at room temperature and become liquid/transparent at around 40C
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    Re: Chanel No 5 Formula

    Hi Jeroen,
    please 1 drop of Patchouli is correct in your formula ? I have tried it , but it is too much..In original P.A. formula above is only 0.05% of patchouli.
    Also my vetiver oil dominate in...
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    Re: Chanel No 5 Formula

    Hi Jeroen,
    do you mean orris absolute, not violet absolute in your formula ?
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    Re: Chanel No 5 Formula

    Your unit contain probably a relay ( switched by internal timer ) that can be bypassed by an external switch for continuous operation. Then you will add mechanical timer switch like this...
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    Re: Chanel No 5 Formula

    Please could you share power and frequency of your unit ? I have 50w / 40KHz unit with 30min timer. I will replace internal timer with my own infinity timer ( 30min on / 30min off - to cool down the...
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    Re: Chanel No 5 Formula

    Thanks !
    i will check it after 2/3 months. I will also try short ultrasonic bath.
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    Re: Chanel No 5 Formula

    Hi,
    i have just prepared the Perfumer’s Apprentice formula, but i think it is too soapy ( tested at 10% dilution ). There is overkill of C 12 MNA.
    I have found another simplified recipe, which...
  28. Thread: Ylang Ylang

    by Milhaus
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    Ylang Ylang

    Hi,
    i have prepared one aldehydic perfume which contain 37% of ylang-ylang EO. Even after a week of aging still smell too narcotic. It is possible that the smell will improve over time to acceptable...
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    Re: Perfumers' apprentice Marine Accord

    As you can see, this is base accord only:

    Hedione - (very light all-around enhancer) - 58
    Galaxolide 50% (musk) 28
    Iso e super (smooth woody amber - velvety) 8
    Habanolide (sweet musk) - 6 ...
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    Beckham signature for her - musk

    Hi,
    please anybody know what musk is used in this perfume ?
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    Re: Violet accord - i am lost

    Please help,
    i am not sure if there is a typo but 0,37% of cucumber aldehyde sound extremely strong. In most cases is cucumber aldehyde used at 0.001%. It is possible that gas chromatography is...
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    Re: Swap - cucumber aldehyde wanted

    Yes there are lot of suppliers, but they sell minimum 5g for 150$ or more + postage + 20-25% importing tax to EU ( ~250$ total for 5g ). This is good price, but i dont need such huge amount. I need...
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    Re: Violet accord - i am lost

    DrSmellThis:
    yes i agree , this is why i am trying to create my own real Violet accord.
    I am giving here the main components from analysis above. Some components like 2',2''- dihydro alpha ionone...
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    Re: Chanel No 5 Formula

    Hi,
    i am trying to replicate formula posted by Chris Bartlett, but i cannot find Animalid. It is possible to substitute Animalid/Musk tincture with Muscone ( i guess 1%-4% of Muscone in concentrate...
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    Re: Swap - cucumber aldehyde wanted

    Yes i know this site, but minimal order 50GBP is too much, because i really need only this one AC.
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    Swap - cucumber aldehyde wanted

    Hi,
    i am looking for trans-2, cis-6- nonadienal alias cucumber aldehyde ( small amount ). I can offer small amount of other aroma chemicals, or buy it from you.
  37. Thread: Aldehydes

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    Re: Aldehydes

    Thanks Jeroen,
    that is pretty low concentration, commonly i am starting with 1 drop of 1% C12 L.I will try it.
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    Re: Tonka bean in ethanol

    Yes Paul, i mean Tonka Bean Absolute. I will try 25% solution.Thanks.
  39. Thread: Aldehydes

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    Re: Aldehydes

    Thanks David, i will try it.
  40. Thread: Aldehydes

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    Aldehydes

    Hi,
    i am trying to create masculine woody / citrusy / orange flower perfume. Could you please help me which aldehydes are suitable for my perfume ?

    here is formula ( not rounded to 100% ):

    4...
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    Tonka bean in ethanol

    Hi,
    please, it is good idea to dissolve tonka bean in 96%ethanol ? I dont have DPG available now.
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    Re: Violet accord - i am lost

    According to this analysis i have selected AC for violet flower:

    9% ionones ( mostly alpha ionone and 7,8 dihydro Beta ionone)

    0.37% Cucumber aldehyde
    0.23% leaf acetate
    1.87% Aldehyde C9...
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    Re: Violet accord - i am lost

    I know little Russian so i dont have trouble to read it.
    I recommend to use google translator for others.
    There are plenty of other chromatograph analysis :
    http://viness.narod.ru/az.htm
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    Re: Violet accord - i am lost

    Hi,
    i have found interesting site http://viness.narod.ru/violac.htm
  45. Thread: Ambroxan price

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    Ambroxan price

    Hi ,
    please how much does cost Ambroxan per gram, i cannot find it anywhere ?
  46. Thread: Tamariscol

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    Tamariscol

    Hi,
    please i am looking for a small sample of this AC.
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    Re: Violet accord - i am lost

    Hi,
    i have just sniffed my violet accords prepared with different ionones ( alpha, beta, methyl and gamma 95 ) after 2 months of aging. The smell of ionones in accords is now much better.

    Here...
  48. Thread: Benzyl acetate

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    Re: Benzyl acetate

    perfumersworld.com citation:
    Blender: A material that helps link and harmonize disparate basics and blenders, rounds or smoothes the perfume.


    For example civet is well known to round/harmonise...
  49. Thread: Benzyl acetate

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    Re: Benzyl acetate

    Also HCA hexyl cinnamic aldehyde is used as blender .
  50. Thread: Benzyl acetate

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    Benzyl acetate

    Hi,
    i have trouble with benzyl acetate when creating accords. The smell is pretty strong and unpleasant ( like acetone ) for me and overcharge the remaining components even at 1%. Maybe it needs...
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    Heliotrope accord

    Hi,
    i am looking for Heliotrope accord formula. I have following idea :

    500 Heliotropin replacer 50%
    150 Vanillin 10%
    20 Anisic aldehyde
    20 Geraniol, Java ( or Rhodinol )
    10 Rose otto...
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    Re: Violet accord - i am lost

    Look here:...
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    Re: Violet accord - i am lost

    Thanks for tips.
    Now i am testing 9 different versions of violet accord.

    I have also tried to prepare Poucher Violet Perfume:
    100 Parma violet
    40 Victoria violet
    5 cassie absolute
    1 rose otto...
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    Re: Christmas scent - please share

    Thanks David,
    i have tried to add fir or pine EOs, but i dont like them, because they does not smell like real tree...i have no clue why ( maybe i have bad source of EOs ? ). I will try to use pine...
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    Re: Christmas scent - please share

    Because the scent is very strong for first 30 minutes and then disappear quickly. I think they could reduce evaporation at beginning ( reduce strong unpleasant odour ) and the scent will last longer.
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    Christmas scent - please share

    Hi,
    please share your favorite Christmas scents here ( potpourri, oil burners ):

    i have prepared this classic combination for oil burner:

    5 Cinnamon EO
    3 Clove EO
    3 Star Anise EO
    5 Orange...
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    Re: Violet accord - i am lost

    Hi Chris,
    thank you very much for hints , please could you tell me how much Verdilyn do you use in Violet accord ( if not secret ) ? I dont have Verdilyn, but from i have found, it is pretty strong...
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    Re: Violet accord - i am lost

    In the post above Paul Killer has mentioned Violet formula where Violet leaf absolute is used in 8% concentration. That is pretty much.To prepare 5ml of Violet concentrate i need about 0,4ml of 100%...
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    Re: Violet accord - i am lost

    Hi John,
    thanks for comment. In Violet formula i have here are used mostly Anisic aldehyde or Benzyl iso eugenol. It will be interesting to try 1,4-dimethoxybenzene instead.
    BTW: because i have...
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    Re: Violet accord - i am lost

    Hi David,

    Gardenia:
    i dont have still Styrallyl Acetate... whenever i will get it somewhere i will try the formula.

    Violet:
    yes i have prepared both Poucher formula : Parma Violet no.1066 ...
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    Violet accord - i am lost

    Hi,
    i have tried many violet formulas, but i still cannot create the "commercial violet" or sometimes called as "pink violet" scent used in cosmetics...I have also bought Violet fleuressence from...
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    benzyl isoeugenol

    Hi,
    please it is possible to dissolve benzyl isoeugenol in 95% ethanol ? It is possible to create 50% solution ( 5g benzyl isoeugenol /5g ethanol ) ?


    Milos

    - - - Updated - - -

    I have...
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    Re: Gardenia accord

    Yes, this is Perfumer's Apprentice Gardenia Accord. I have found small amount of Civet CNC improve the smell, but for me it is still only "creamy/lactonic" note of Gardenia . Maybe adding more...
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    Gardenia accord

    Hi,
    i have bought Gardenia accord ( Givaudan ). On smelling strip i smell strong odour of Benzyl Acetate. This accord does not reminds me a Gardenia flower too much...Please have you any experience...
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    Re: EO dilution is cloudy

    Hi,
    my pink pepper and black pepper also create cloudy solution with ethanol.
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    Re: Floral accord ( creatingperfume.com )

    100% concentration on strip: I smell something green ( maybe aldehyde C12 ) which overcharge florals. Odour reminds me more lily of the valley/Muguet than lily. The green note is too strong to me.
    ...
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    Floral accord ( creatingperfume.com )

    Hi,
    please have you any exerience with this accord http://www.creatingperfume.com/floralaccord.aspx ? I have ordered bottle of this accord to use as heart in my "perfume" and diluted it with 96%...
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    Re: Magnolia Accord

    Thanks PKiller ,
    your formula is original and very inspirative for me !

    I am looking forward to prepare this formula ( need to get few ingredients somewhere ). Do you like Guaiacwood, right ? I...
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    Re: Magnolia Accord

    Look here:
    ...
  70. Thread: Alcohol

    by Milhaus
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    Re: Alcohol

    I am from Czech ,
    i have found also this one here :
    http://hoefer-chemie.de/upload/SDB/ETH-100.pdf

    but it does contain 1% of 2-butanone.
  71. Thread: Alcohol

    by Milhaus
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    Alcohol

    Hi,
    due high price of pure molasse 96% alcohol, i am looking for alternatives to create my first perfume/fragrance attempts. I have tried to use 40% vodka ( i cannot find stronger ) and most oils...
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