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    Re: Vanill mint recipes?

    If you have similar issues with a combo which isn't working, find out the main chemical components of the smells in question and add in a little of something which shares components with both....
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    Re: Vanill mint recipes?

    Vanilla absolute or oleoresin? You might get different results depending on which. Try adding a really tiny bit of lavender, it ties them together well, and a good fixative makes all the difference.
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    Re: Rosewood source or substitute

    Okay, everyone, these look like great starting points - thanks! :) I haven't had a chance to obtain ho wood yet, are there differences between it and rosewood?
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    Re: Fruit CO2

    Some research shows I can obtain them direct from manufacturers; are there any from whom I wouldn't have to order a whole kilo at once?
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    Fruit CO2

    According to Hermitage Oils' newsletter, they're going to stop carrying some of the fruit CO2 extracts. Is it possible to obtain these from elsewhere, or have they stopped being made outright? If I...
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    Re: Rosewood source or substitute

    These are great, everyone, but does anyone know a confirmed ethical source based in the UK? Well, obviously the oil's not made in the UK, but you know what I mean. Some American companies can't ship...
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    Rosewood source or substitute

    I love the smell of rosewood, but it's endangered. I've seen a few sites offering rosewood oil distilled from twigs and leaves of living trees and I think these sources should be supported and...
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    Re: Carrier oil to fragrance ratio?

    In which case, what are the rules now? (I'm in the UK.)
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    Re: Carrier oil to fragrance ratio?

    I have the intention of eventually selling, and I want to know what's usual protocol.
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    Re: Carrier oil to fragrance ratio?

    I'm a bit concerned about the safety with regards to oils. Some sites say all essential should be diluted down to below 5% before any application to the skin, which I think is excessive, and IFRA...
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    Carrier oil to fragrance ratio?

    I'm making perfumes in a fractionated coconut oil base, and I've seen recommendations for any percentage of fragrance/essential oils in an oil blend from 2% to 80%. What would anyone here recommend I...
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    Re: IFRA-safe wormwood equivalent?

    Not disputing it, just saying that's what I was told and asking for better information.
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    Re: IFRA-safe wormwood equivalent?

    I Googled "wormwood restriction ifra" and got some info that it was banned. So if it is okay to use, what's the percentage regulation, if any? Do EU regulations cover it, if IFRA doesn't?
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    Re: IFRA-safe wormwood equivalent?

    Can't imagine why it's coming up as banned on Google, then. Huh... Am I confusing it with EU restrictions, or is it okay under those?
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    Re: IFRA-safe wormwood equivalent?

    I saw on the IFRA regulation list here that it was banned, and Google backed that up. Has something changed since that list was made?
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    Re: IFRA-safe wormwood equivalent?

    That doesn't really answer my original question, which is can I use it in products I intend to sell under EU restrictions and if not what smells similar?
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    Re: IFRA-safe wormwood equivalent?

    I still have to follow their rules if I wish to make things for sale, and from my research wormwood is in fact poisonous and narcotic.
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    IFRA-safe wormwood equivalent?

    I hear at least one type of wormwood oil is forbidden under IFRA/EU regulations as a neurotoxin. Is this true of all the varieties, and if so, what's a good scent substitute? I do know it's okay for...
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    Re: Reformulation later?

    (Okay, a lot of aromachems aren't that expensive, but some of the more vital ones are.)

    If the oils are made within the EU, they're likely to fit EU regs, and I can ask the manufacturers and...
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    Re: Reformulation later?

    Fragrance oils also cost something like a twentieth of just one of the pure aromachems I'd need.
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    Re: Reformulation later?

    I can't because, as I said, I haven't got much money and all the places I've found which have them except Heritage Oils (which has a lot of the ones I would need but not all) will only sell them in...
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    Re: Reformulation later?

    I do have naturals and I intend to use them when possible. When talking about fragrance oils, I meant for those scents which don't come in natural oil form. And what would the opinion be if I did...
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    Re: Very simple accords?

    Strawberries/raspberries/blackberries are the ones I really want to work on.
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    Re: Reformulation later?

    Mostly fruits, for the moment.

    I'm not setting my expectations high at the moment, I just want to mess around and maybe cover the cost of materials via ebay or something. I don't see why changing...
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    Re: Reformulation later?

    I get that but I really don't see what the issue with it being slightly different later is when perfumes get reformulated all the time.
    Either way, I really can't accept material gifts from total...
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    Re: Very simple accords?

    I'm looking mostly for fruit accords, and preferably the ones which use the fewest ingredients possible.
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    Re: Reformulation later?

    I'd really rather do things under my own steam. Are you sure that's any better an idea?
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    Are you sure it's not olfactory fatigue?
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    Re: Reformulation later?

    UK.
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    Re: Reformulation later?

    Still, it'll take me a long time to track down a lot of the ones I want to use, and in the meantime I have very little money to put towards oils. I was thinking of doing this to offset the costs of...
  31. Re: Fragrance oil longevity/strength difficulties

    Grapeseed oil does, as I was told here - from my own experience it works great for massage oil, but not for a more complex fragrance. Fractionated coconut oil is supposed to hold the scent much...
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    Re: Reformulation later?

    Also, my intention when reformulating wasn't to make an exact replica down to the chemical makeup. I was hoping to use the fragrance oils along with real extracts for a less expensive and easier...
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    Re: Very simple accords?

    I was intending to modify them for my own needs, yes, but I direly need a starting point. I'll check out all those. Does anyone know of a good supplier in the UK? Heritage is great, but there are a...
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    Very simple accords?

    Because of my previously mentioned difficulties accessing aromachems and everyone here telling me it's a bad idea to use other people's fragrance oils, can anyone suggest a source for some very...
  35. Re: Fragrance oil longevity/strength difficulties

    What carrier are you using, and to what concentration? Some hold the fragrance better than others.
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    Re: Reformulation later?

    The essential oils are no problem at all, it's scents that don't come in EO form that are the issue. As I said, I'm struggling to access the aromachemicals I'd need. I've bought some from Heritage...
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    Re: Reformulation later?

    My problem is I can't currently source a lot of the aromachems I'd need to make decent non-naturally-possible fragrances, can't find reliable instructions for how to use them, don't have enough...
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    Re: Reformulation later?

    Just saying that was an idea that struck me, not that that's definitely what I'm going to do. I'm also intending to use natural products whenever possible, but if something I want to try out doesn't...
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    Re: Reformulation later?

    My intention was to go for quick and inexpensive to start with. I'm not looking to be the next Chanel here, just to have some stuff to sell on Etsy for fun for now and practise as I go along.
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    Re: Reformulation later?

    I'd like to add I have seen an awful lot of disdain in this community and on Fragrantica for indie blenders who use bases, but I don't have much money and so not much access to the aromachemicals I'd...
  41. Re: IFRA, difference between tea absolute and CO2?

    Thanks :) Are there any aromachems or other oils you'd recommend to extend a tea scent?

    I think the regulations are stupid too, but it's a better idea for me to follow them while they're in place...
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    Reformulation later?

    Since I have little money at the moment, I had the idea of starting my line using fragrance oils sourced elsewhere for scents not available in naturally-derived form, then as I get better at blending...
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    Re: Can't find Poucher's book online

    A lot of those sites look really dodgy, require an account that I risk having to pay for, or just don't work. Do you know of a specific reliable one?
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    Can't find Poucher's book online

    I've been buying fragrance oils for experimenting with and seeing what things I'm unfamiliar with are meant to smell like, but those won't hold me if I want to start selling things. I'm looking for...
  45. Are CO2 extracts only usable in alcohol bases?

    I have some ideas for solid or oil-based blends which would require materials I can only get in CO2 extract form, and I don't think those can be used for that. Would using a solubiser with them work?
  46. IFRA, difference between tea absolute and CO2?

    The IFRA list forbids tea absolute; does it also forbid CO2 extracts, and does this apply to all varieties of tea oils or just one?
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    Re: Rectified Cade or Birch

    Does anyone know if Mystic Moments' cade and birch are crude or rectified? Their site doesn't say and they haven't got back to my email yet.
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    Re: rectified cade or birch?

    mysticmoments.co.uk has both, but they aren't labelled as rectified or crude. I've emailed them to ask and they haven't got back to me.
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    Re: Negative emotions scents

    Wormwood's forbidden under IFRA regs, though - it's a neurotoxin. Still legal for personal use though.
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    Re: Choya nakh?

    That isn't what I'm looking for, I'm afraid - the kind I wanted is made of distilled roasted seashells, that one's bark.
  51. Re: Hello, newb wants tips on copyright.

    These are the things I was talking about:
    http://www.geekchiccosmetics.com/solidscents.html
    https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/bubbleandgeek?ref=l2-shopheader-name...
  52. Re: Out with it.. what is the worst blend you have ever made?

    Too much aldehyde C12 MNA in an experimental blend. I was going for metallic, ended up with "nose hairs on fire".
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    Choya nakh?

    Anyone know where to get hold of choya nakh in the UK? I'd rather not ship it across the Atlantic if I can avoid it.
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    Sticky: Re: Everyone needs to read this.

    PDFs won't open for me, do you know what might be causing that issue?
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    Dragon's blood tincture in UK?

    I hear Dragon's Blood resin oil doesn't smell of anything but the tincture does. I've found a couple of sources in the UK for the resin powder, but nothing in the way of pre-prepared tincture. Does...
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    Re: Negative emotions scents

    Geosmin allegedly smells like rain and turned earth, I reckon you could make a good "melancholy" feel from a base of that.
  57. Re: Do scented candles and room sprays require safety assessments?

    Thank you! Do you know of anyone who does those assessments?
  58. Do scented candles and room sprays require safety assessments?

    I did hear legislation was being brought in in the EU requiring scented candles and room sprays to undergo safety assessments the same as body-contact products do, but I'm not sure if it's active yet.
  59. Re: What to know before trying to get perfumes analysed?

    Yep, UK.
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    Re: Synth birch tar

    Unless I've misunderstood it, parts per billion is the figure for rectified tar.
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    Synth birch tar

    Birch tar is listed on the IFRA site as being restricted to parts per billion. Since this is a bit impractical, can anyone recommend a synthetic substitute which has the appropriate smoky/meaty sort...
  62. Re: What to know before trying to get perfumes analysed?

    Okay, so follow the stricter regs to be safe, I guess. Can anyone recommend a good place to get the analyses done?
  63. What to know before trying to get perfumes analysed?

    I've been browsing around trying to find suitable information for what I need to know before I start trying to get the oils I'm making analysed and sold. I've come across clashing info in various...
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    Re: Perfumes fading in oil base

    I've asked a couple of chemists who do safety analysis and they've given me the 3% figure. I'm not sure if this is just how they personally do things. Thanks for the advice, I'll try a different base.
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    Perfumes fading in oil base

    I've been trying to mix up some blends in grapeseed oil, but if I leave them in the bottles for even a few days the scents start to fade. Under EU regulations I don't think I can make the blends any...
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    Curious about BPAL "opium" notes

    If anyone's familiar with the Black Phoenix Alchemy Lab, they may know some of their fragrances advertise a note of "opium tar" or "opium smoke". Since I presume it's not actual opium, and I haven't...
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    Re: Clarification on EU regs

    I did mention where I bought them, it was from mysticmoments.co.uk.
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    Clarification on EU regs

    I've got hold of a couple of oils I'm unsure whether I can use under EU regulations - birch tar and chili seed oil from mysticmoments.co.uk, to be accurate. The supplier's based in the UK, but I...
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    Alcoholic notes

    Anyone have any recommendations for fragrance oils, aromachemicals, and/or mixtures of scents that can provide a good boozy note? Juniper for gin I do know, and I've heard acetaldehyde works.
  70. Re: Out with it.. what is the worst blend you have ever made?

    I mixed coffee with lily of the valley. Not a good mix at all.
  71. Re: Metallic, aquatic, & ozonic ingredients

    Thanks very much. I had tried searching, but Google was unhelpful.
  72. Metallic, aquatic, & ozonic ingredients

    Hi, I'm looking to get hold of fragrance oils or aromachemicals with which I can make metallic, aquatic, and/or ozonic scents. I'm in the UK and don't want to spend the time and money shipping stuff...
  73. Re: Hello, newb wants tips on copyright.

    That's wonderful! Thank you.
    (I do actually have the contact details for the estate of one series I'd like to use, and I figure it's worth asking them anyway.)
  74. Re: Hello, newb wants tips on copyright.

    It's okay. I saw a lot of other people doing it and wanted to know the risks. I have plenty of sources of inspiration which aren't copyrighted so I can stick with those for now.
  75. Re: Hello, newb wants tips on copyright.

    Heh. I'm not using other people's scent formulae, I just get inspired by fictional characters and places, and songs. I just wanted to know if I could cover that under parody law or something.
    I...
  76. Re: Hello, newb wants tips on copyright.

    Thing is I'm not sure how far that extends, if inspiration is okay, or if the copyright holders would bother, or if there's a difference in UK and US laws.
  77. Username misspelled when creating account, how to change?

    Hi, I need to take the N out of my username and can't find how to change it.
  78. Hello, newb wants tips on copyright.

    Hi! I'm new to the world of perfumes, been collecting for a while and currently taking a distance-learning course to make my own. One thing I would like to know before I attempt to go into the...
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