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    Re: Order with Piping Rock - BEWARE

    I've ordered from piping rock and didn't have any problems. I ordered a few citrus oils some lavender, birch tar and a few others and was very satisfied if I were you though I wouldn't spend almost...
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    Re: Perfumerbook.com by Glen O. Brechbill

    They seem to be legit. Although most of the material he "wrote" seems to be cut and paste jobs from various resources. I've been able to read the exact same things in various places in the net. I'm...
  3. Thread: Concrete

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    Re: Concrete

    Thank you David. How would I and is it worth it to turn the concrete to an absolute also could the clary and geranium be used in small amounts as to only prolong the lavender without altering the...
  4. Thread: Dilution ??

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    Dilution ??

    As I've heard many times a lot of perfumers dilute their ingredients prior to using them. So when you create a formula using diluted material then you further dilute the concentrate in ethanol...
  5. Thread: Ingredient list

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    Ingredient list

    I've noticed on some perfumes they list a few ingredients which I think is required due to allergy risk but when they list say coumarin and gerianol does it mean they add those chem or does it mean...
  6. Thread: Concrete

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    Concrete

    Is it possible to use concretes in a formula or should an absolute be used instead. If so how should the concrete be prepared. Also will it give a different effect from the absolute. I have a blue...
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    Re: Formula percentages

    Thank you much. There is a certain"perfume" in which the finished product is 65% ISO e it's a 100ml bottle so it's not 65 ml ISO e correct?
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    Formula percentages

    This has probably been asked before but I couldn't find an answer that works for me. Say you have a 60ml perfume and the composition says it's 60% ambroxan. Is it 60% of the 50ml finished product or...
  9. Thread: Lavender soap

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    Re: Lavender soap

    Thank you for the advice. That sounds great I am looking for something that would aid in the floral aroma longevity the lavender smell I wish would last is sadly a fleeting aroma. I guess I have to...
  10. Thread: Lavender soap

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    Re: Lavender soap

    Thank you much. Im trying to make a perfume not a soap sorry for the confusion. I don't know if that makes a difference. Will the ionones add a sweetness. What about linalool do you think linalool...
  11. Thread: Lavender soap

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    Lavender soap

    I've been experimenting with many and I mean many combos of things trying to recreate a lavender soap aroma. I've used the aldehydes suggested in the good scents reference and I just can't seem to...
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    Anti hero formulae

    Does anyone own any etat libre d orange perfumes and if so have you owned it before and bought it again and noticed a change. I bought anti hero and loved it. Simple long lasting lavender. I recently...
  13. Thread: Anti hero

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    Anti hero

    If anyone has ever smelled etat libre d oranges anti hero and has any ideas on how to create something similar I would love some tips. I've been working at it for awhile now and just can't get it...
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    Perfumed court fakes

    I recently ordered a decant of antihero by etat libres d orange. I love lavender so I gave it a go smelled great. The liquid inside was clear and smelled of synthetic lavender which was fine that's...
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    Re: Formula percentage question

    Thanks Paul that is what I was looking for
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    Formula percentage question

    When using aroma chemicals percentage guidelines are given. So let's say 5 % ambroxan. Would that be 5% of the pre dilution. So if I'm making a two ounce perfume and choose to make it 25% concentrate...
  17. Thread: Enfleurage

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    Enfleurage

    Has anyone ever tried an enfleurage. I have heard of using crisco or another type of vegetable fat. Taking say rose petals or any aromatic product and putting them in a layer of the fat for awhile...
  18. Thread: Vanilla bean

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    Re: Vanilla bean

    I see thank you for clearing that up. So if I tincture vanilla then evaporate the alcohol will there be anything left or will it all evaporate. There would have to be a little something left I think.
  19. Thread: Vanilla bean

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    Re: Vanilla bean

    Is the co2 not an essential oil itself or am I being dumb. I'm relatively new to most of these things. So why no vanilla EO does it not come from a type of orchid. Also the seed pods feel very oily...
  20. Thread: Benzoin powder

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    Re: Benzoin powder

    Indeed that is what I have. Freezing it sounds perfect I never thought of that. It is pretty fresh it has a strong odor and I love how it smells so I guess making an alcohol tincture is the way to...
  21. Thread: Vanilla bean

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    Vanilla bean

    I am wondering if anyone has used vanilla beans in any way. I know they are used to make the extract used for cooking but what about using them in perfumery. Being that there is no EO for vanilla...
  22. Thread: Benzoin powder

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    Benzoin powder

    Has anyone used benzoin powder. If so in what capacity and what were the results. I don't know how common it is or if it's used at all in modern perfumery.
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    Green Irish water

    Can anyone tell me what the smell is at the end of cool water and green irish tweed. There is a very similar smell at the end of it. I wish I could describe it but I can't so I won't. But if anyone...
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    Sticky: Re: Looking for links on old perfume-making books

    Go to archive.org and type in perfumery. You will get about 50 results and you can read them on line free. Play around with the top left of the website and you will be able to look at them in PDF...
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    Sticky: Re: Looking for links on old perfume-making books

    It's not an error that's the olde english way of spelling
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    Re: Natural vs synthetic

    Very interesting. There is no doubt creed uses quality ingridients but my beef with them is the " stories" that go along with the perfumes. The gcms you speak of really peaks my curiosity I would...
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    Re: Natural vs synthetic

    It seems to me the npg does have an agenda and a chip on its collective shoulder I also sense a bit of arrogance or maybe it's like if your not part if this club then you should be. Or wish you were....
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    Re: Natural vs synthetic

    You shouldn't apologize for your eloquently phrased retorts nor for your opinions I thank the stars that there is someone as honest and passionate as you here to keep in line some of the info that...
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    Re: Natural vs synthetic

    Boy I started this thread to docs little creed bashing and look what happened it really took off. I think it's fantastic that so many of us have such hardcore beliefs and that we can share them here...
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    Re: Natural vs synthetic

    Brilliant. I wish I would have thought of it first. I could be the first unicorn poop billionaire. Well one can dream can't he?
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    Re: Natural vs synthetic

    Like I originally said creed has such fantastic marketing people will buy into the myth not the reality. Like isn't the new creed fragrance made with unicorn horn and four leaf clover essence and...
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    Re: Natural vs synthetic

    The all mighty dollar dictates everything
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    Re: Dilution problems

    It does thank you. I guess it's all relative to the power of the aroma. So buying pure and diluting seems to be the way to go. If you dilute before you add your base will it be a different scent than...
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    Re: Pure oil vs diluted

    Thanks that advice seems to strike a chord with many thanks again
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    Re: Pure oil vs diluted

    What oils would be soluble in alcohol? Where do you buy your diluted ingredients?
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    Dilution problems

    When experimenting with various formulas I usually keep it small so then using one drop of something might change the formula too much because it would be a huge percentage change. So what is the...
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    Pure oil vs diluted

    Since the cost of some EO are so high would it make sense to buy the ones that are pre diluted. I've seen some for sale that are a certain percentage EO and a carrier oil. Most EO are used for...
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    H2o based perfume

    I've heard of a new line of perfumes coming out that are water based. Does anyone know anything about them. A water based perfume sounds good in my opinion because you would get the true scent...
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    Re: Natural vs synthetic

    When I started this thread I was in no way saying that only naturals is the way to go. I was just questioning the cost and marketing of some perfumes. Sure aroma chems are important and just as hard...
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    Re: Natural vs synthetic

    Would it make more sense(cents) to use cheap chems when your bottom line is money but is there any big companies who can do both? Can you not make money and make a quality natural based product. I'm...
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    Natural vs synthetic

    So I've read a lot of posts saying how you have to have aroma chems to create something good or usable. But at the same time reviews of such top perfumes like CREED always say that they use and smell...
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    Re: Bitter velvety green base note?

    Not long enough... Sorry. The citrus experiment is still up in the air. No definitive results yet I think it's too soon to tell the formula I made is still ageing. No better way to learn than asking...
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    Re: Bitter velvety green base note?

    Not every thought that comes to mind should warrant a post. Maybe you scratched your head and that's the Aroma your smelling. Who knows. Not a question anyone but you can answer
  44. Re: Article: Sandalwood Dreams, Part 8: Uses and Markets + Sandalwood Oil Giveaway

    I am extremely surprised to learn the price of Australian sandalwood is more than the Mysore. That's hard to believe considering the price some charge for the oil. Maybe it's due to the availability....
  45. Thread: Norlimbanol

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    Norlimbanol

    I'm looking for some info on norlimbanol has anyone ever used it in anything and if so what. I think it's an amazing aroma it's so familiar to me but I can't place it. Where have I smelled it? What...
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    Castor oil vs alcohol

    I'm looking for some opinions on the merits of alcohol and of castor oil. I know most use alcohol but why? Is castor oil better than others.
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    Re: Hedione effects

    If so many modern fragrances use this magic ingredients maybe that's why there seems to be a lack of something truly outstanding or different you know something that truly stands up and says look at...
  48. Thread: Hedione effects

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    Hedione effects

    I seem to have a problem with detecting any aroma at all from hedione. I believe it's a large molecule and that's why but I read a lot of articles saying its jasmine like quality develops slowly but...
  49. Thread: Veramoss

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    Veramoss

    I have recently purchased some veramoss and it came in powder form. Is this a common ingredient and is it just a ground up moss or is it a synthetic. I got it from someone who knows not wgere it came...
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    Re: Coumarin crystalsqq

    How about veramoss it's a powder as well any thoughts
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    Re: Coumarin crystalsqq

    Is that weight or volume or does it matter
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    Coumarin crystalsqq

    Anybody know what to dilute coumarin crystals in and what the ratio should be
  53. Thread: Tincture trial

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    Re: Tincture post

    I say the longer the better. At least a month. But with some I change out the material and add new herbs or flowers or whatever it is that your using
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    Tincture post

    Here is a little info on that tincture post it was on providence perfume co. Website on mar 5 2012



    ORIGINALITY By using a tincture in your perfume you can put a highly original spin on your...
  55. Thread: Tincture trial

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    Tincture trial

    I read an article (when I find it I will post a link) that sounded interesting. It stated that if you make a tincture with citrus rinds and perfumers alcohol that you can extend the staying power of...
  56. Thread: Note confusion

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    Re: Note confusion

    That makes a lot of sense to me I thank you for putting it in a way that's easy to understand. The names of AC don't put me off I guess it's just lack of experience with them. I do have a few and...
  57. Thread: Note confusion

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    Re: Note confusion

    That's a great explanation thank you. I see now how they can be all three. So using EO sounds like it would make a more complex formula. AC's while they serve a purpose they seem boring to me or an...
  58. Thread: Note confusion

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    Re: Note confusion

    Your right I am confused. So an eo listed as a base note say patchouli could be described as all three notes because it evaporates very slowly so it can be detected in the top middle
    And base. It's...
  59. Thread: Note confusion

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    Note confusion

    I've seen some fragrances list their notes and some are listed as top middle and base is it possible for one note to be considered all three and if so what are some if them?
  60. Thread: Perfumebook

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    Re: Perfumebook

    I'm not sure what your looking at but the 4 or 5 files I've read have hundreds of pages of info most of them have almost 400 pages. That's a big list of suppliers!!!!
  61. Thread: Perfumebook

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    Re: Perfumebook

    To me I don't see plagarisim he may cite some other works but in his explanations you can tell he knows a lot on the subject of perfumery. In this day and age he would be sued so fast if indeed it...
  62. Thread: Perfumebook

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    Re: Perfumebook

    Sorry no harm no foul. His info has helped me a lot I really appreciate the fact that he has been open with his info. I just hope that he is not just in it out of spite. I like being able to go to...
  63. Thread: Perfumebook

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    Re: Perfumebook

    Perfumebook.com wow sorry I made a mistake. Not all if us are perfect maybe you should have read pauls reply
  64. Thread: Perfumebook

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    Re: Perfumebook

    I do detect some sour grapes. But what do you think of all the info he presents. Seems pretty sound but who am I to judge.
  65. Thread: Perfumebook

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    Perfumebook

    Anybody ever check out perfumebook.com and if so what do you think? I'm very surprised of all the formulas listed considering nobody ever seems to give them out. It's like pulling teeth to just get...
  66. Thread: Five Musts

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    Re: Five Musts

    Great Chris thanks those sound interesting and are unfamiliar to me in that aspect. I will definitely try a couple in the future.
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    Five Musts

    Does anyone have a list of five must have aroma chems. I'm interested in a fougere type composition. Just curious to what everyone thinks

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    Poll was posted by mistake how can...
  68. Thread: Lasting lavender

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    Re: Lasting lavender

    I saw it in a book called classifying aroma chemicals it says lime ab402 sharp and sweet lasting for weeks. I'm not sure I saw it listed on a site called PFF it's a company in england
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    Re: Lasting lavender

    I was looking to use lime in the top and I came across something called lime ab402 it says it's very long lasting have you ever heard of it
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    Re: Lasting lavender

    Any knowledge of methyl lavender ketone or lavandin grosso
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    Re: Lasting lavender

    I agree about the sweetness factor of Tasmanian. So I'm pretty happy with what I've created I'm sure it will change when it ages I have two questions. One is how long do you age a perfume and do you...
  72. Thread: Lasting lavender

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    Re: Lasting lavender

    I was referring to lavender oil from France Tasmania and Italy sorry for the confusion. I guess they are the same so any difference would be negligible. Also I was referring to Chris but all the...
  73. Thread: Lasting lavender

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    Re: Lasting lavender

    Well then I got advice from one who knows what he's talking about thank you. How about using say three different lavender eo's or is thAt a waste. Do you think you could pick up on the subtleties of...
  74. Thread: Lasting lavender

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    Re: Lasting lavender

    I have galaxolide and am wondering why it's a 50% dilution. Is it ok to use like this or should it be further diluted? Im confused about the nature of it. Is it available as in pure form? Also...
  75. Thread: Lasting lavender

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    Re: Lasting lavender

    Sounds good thanks. The hedione adds what to the blend? Is it an all purpose fixative?
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    Dilution solution

    I've noticed most formulas talked about are pre diluted so then how is the carrier calculated. Does anyone prefer to use full strength ingredients? Also if you use pre diluted to say 1 or even 10% is...
  77. Thread: Lasting lavender

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    Lasting lavender

    I'm looking for some things to make a lavender cologne anybody know of some things to help
    Extend it's staying power also any recommendations of what goes well in a lavender scent. Any interesting...
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