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    Re: Cambodian and indian oud

    Yes, Laotian oud is more 'primal' and raw, whereas 'Cambodian' (although technically it would be Thai, as 99.99% of so-called Cambodian oils are actually oils extracted from trees grown in Thailand;...
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    Re: Cambodian and indian oud

    You're welcome, Buzzlepuff! I'm glad you found the information useful. : )

    By the way, I do not want to come off as an elitist who has only negative things to say about mainstream oud frags. On...
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    Re: Cambodian and indian oud

    When it comes to grading oils in the manner of "A, B, C", "AAAA, AAA, AA, A, BBB", etc, it is highly subjective. Every distiller will have his own standards - the higher up in the alphabet, the...
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    Re: Cambodian and indian oud

    Although the original question has mostly been answered, spanning several posts, I'll give my input as well since I have first-hand experience with oud oil distillation.

    First of all we must...
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    Re: Layering Pure Agarwood Oil

    All the suggestions above are excellent.

    Some quick pointers:
    - if you want to tone down the animalic note, rose is a good option. The sharp crisp notes of rose will tame the more fecal elements...
  6. Thread: Oudh

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    Re: Oudh

    Oud, Aoud, oudh, aloeswood, agar, and agarwood are all the same thing.

    Agar is the Indian word for the tree itself, or the fragrant heartwood of the tree, that produces the resin. It is derived...
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    Re: Diluting rich Agarwood/Oud

    Hi there anatta,

    Try using fractionated coconut oil, as it seems to have an indefinite shelf life, and also happens to be scentless.
    I guess you could use DPG as well.

    Do you think dilution...
  8. Re: Fragrance with a fecal smell an addictive? Do you like fecal scent fragrance?

    By the way, as your nose gets more used to the bolder ouds out there, you might realize that "pungent and barnyardy" are more accurate descriptions.
    And for the more 'fecal' ouds, they have more of...
  9. Re: Fragrance with a fecal smell an addictive? Do you like fecal scent fragrance?

    Good point, @primrose and @AZsmells.

    There are certain compounds which are found in e.g. oud, which are also found in poop.
    Like nineXseven said, if you haven't patiently let your nose decipher...
  10. Re: What do oud connoisseurs think of Black Aoud?

    I hate being a party pooper, but.... its very easy to 'construct' an rose scent using 7-10 aroma chemicals. Pure oud oil isn't as rare as oud oil, but you just can't produce a lot of it. So, like...
  11. Re: What do oud connoisseurs think of Black Aoud?

    I don't believe there's a drop of pure oud in any of the Montale perfumes.
    The same goes for Tom Ford, Killian, Le Labo, or any other big house that has an "oud" fragrance.

    The synthetic oud note...
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    Re: Which scents contain real Ambergris?

    I should add.... its not my own product, so I don't carry samples.
    If you want to purchase 1 gram before getting a larger quantity, just let me know, and I can tell Douglas to send you 1 gram to...
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    Re: Which scents contain real Ambergris?

    If anyone is interested in an ambergris absolute (Freon and/or CO2 extraction of the aromatic molecules, minus the fats etc.), or a tincture of the absolute, please PM me.

    I know one of the...
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    Re: Serious Ambergris envy......... watch this

    If anyone is interested in an ambergris absolute (i.e. a Freon/CO2 extraction of the aromatic molecules, minus the fats etc.), or a tincture of the absolute, please PM me.

    I know one of the...
  15. Re: What does pure oud smell like? M7, Amouage Hommage Attar, Jubilation XXV, Epic Men

    There's some very beneficial info on the "Olfactory Rescue Service" blog, which is just about the most useful resource online for people who are serious about the best Japanese (and other) incense...
  16. Re: What does pure oud smell like? M7, Amouage Hommage Attar, Jubilation XXV, Epic Men

    No probs Evoke. They don't have anything to hide, as far as bakhoor vs oud chips are concerned. They are two separate products, and they are sold as two separate products. Sort of like oud vs an...
  17. Re: What does pure oud smell like? M7, Amouage Hommage Attar, Jubilation XXV, Epic Men

    An important point you bring up Evoke!
    Bukhour is, in fact, not pure oud chips. It is agarwood and/or other substances which are soaked in spices and perfumes. Problem is... many of the perfumes are...
  18. Re: What does pure oud smell like? M7, Amouage Hommage Attar, Jubilation XXV, Epic Men

    @change1, here's a PM I sent someone who had an inquiry. I hope you and others find it useful.
  19. Re: What does pure oud smell like? M7, Amouage Hommage Attar, Jubilation XXV, Epic Men

    The original poster (change1) asked about pure oud, and that's what I and a few others tried to answer.
    You may be happy with your Khaloud and/or other oils which you consider oud.
    To me, some of...
  20. Re: What does pure oud smell like? M7, Amouage Hommage Attar, Jubilation XXV, Epic Men

    @Moreda, I'm sorry you feel that way.
    I would be happy if you buy Oriscent's ouds. I've already mentioned they're just about my biggest competition. See, its not about me trying to promote my...
  21. Re: What does pure oud smell like? M7, Amouage Hommage Attar, Jubilation XXV, Epic Men

    Yep, I'd say the same... closer to a pizza addiction.
    Something which is relatively affordable (a bottle can be expensive, but a tiny dot on your wrist not that much!), and can reeeeeally affect...
  22. Re: What does pure oud smell like? M7, Amouage Hommage Attar, Jubilation XXV, Epic Men

    7abibi ya 'Moreda', ana kunt sakin fis-su3oodiya.... 15 sanah!!
    I think its safe to say that in my 15 years in Saudi Arabia, oud might have been one of the first (or THE first) fragrance I ever...
  23. Re: What does pure oud smell like? M7, Amouage Hommage Attar, Jubilation XXV, Epic Men

    I've tried Oud Al-Khulood. Its either *completely* devoid of oud, or has oud but is heavily mixed with other substance[s].

    I'm not worried about being sued by Amouage for saying this, because I...
  24. Re: What does pure oud smell like? M7, Amouage Hommage Attar, Jubilation XXV, Epic Men

    By the way, the $350 oil you are referring to was specifically made for Agar Aura, so I know very well what made it (and what didn't make it) into the oil. : )
    I didn't simply buy a ready-made oil,...
  25. Re: What does pure oud smell like? M7, Amouage Hommage Attar, Jubilation XXV, Epic Men

    @Moreda,
    Have you seen pure sandalwood oil? That is transparent. So is cedar. They're both derived from trees as well.
    Oud oil is, after all, an essential oil. And most essential oils are...
  26. Re: What does pure oud smell like? M7, Amouage Hommage Attar, Jubilation XXV, Epic Men

    All pure high quality ouds are transparent (some might be so dark though, that they appear opaque).
    There are some lower quality oud oils which are mixed with the lowest grade of oud ('bouya') which...
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    Re: Arabian oil, oudh, mukhallat for beginners

    Hi there,

    I am not aware of any of these (except maybe Haneen, which is a mukh for females), and I agree that Mukhallat Maliki is lovely!
    I would recommend you get in touch with the member...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    No one says you gotta love oud ONLY. ^_^
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    @Mellysmelly, sorry for the belated response. Yeah, I've tried a few samples of their oils. They're okay for the price, although I'm not a big fan of their Malay and Kalimantan oil (especially the...
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    Re: Adding Oud to existing frags ?

    Synthetic oud can be referred to as 'oud abyad', 'white oud', 'silver oud'...
  31. Thread: Barnyard oud?

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    Re: Barnyard oud?

    @bblake I agree 100% about the drydown of Hindis.
    You defo don't want to be hugging someone right after an application of Indian oud. But after about an hour (and then for the next several hours),...
  32. Thread: Barnyard oud?

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    Re: Barnyard oud?

    Phibess, I have tried tons of the worst quality oud oils (I'm talking worth $20 per tola even!).
    And I've tried also tried Arabian oud sprays, like Ajmal's Shams.
    Similarly, I've tried sprays in...
  33. Thread: Barnyard oud?

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    Re: Barnyard oud?

    By the way, I finally got to smell Le Labo 'Oud', something from Tom Ford, Montale etc..

    Now first of all, I detest elitism, and I had initially thought that maybe some people were displaying some...
  34. Thread: Barnyard oud?

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    Re: Barnyard oud?

    There's 3-4 types of 'barnyard' Indian oud smells: bovine, equiline, elephantine and camel.
    The first being the most common.
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    Re: Choosing The Natural Oud Fragrance

    Really depends on the origin of the oil.
    You might find medicine, pine, camphor, COW, hay, leather, nuts, fruits... depending on the source (and grade) of the oil.
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    Poll: Re: The best woody-spicy boardroom scent

    I guess pure oud oils wouldn't count, eh? Otherwise, I can think of a couple.
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    Re: Post a Picture of Your Scents - Edition III

    My ouds:

    http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d26/tahasyed/Photo6.jpg
  38. Thread: Agar Aura

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    Re: Agar Aura

    Hey there, ccck, if you have any questions please feel free to PM me.

    Thanks for the kind words Igor! : )
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    Re: NEW L'Artisan "Al Oudh"

    Ahhh, so it's not just me then who doesn't smell any oud in these 'aoud' sprays. >.<
    I'm just wondering how many people have tried a nice, quality oud before. Maybe something like Oriscent's Royal...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    : )
    Akhi.. I've lived in Saudia for 15 years, and I've been to Dubai.
    About that 'bakhouri' smell.. I'd say go for Ajmal's ''Mukhallat Burj'. It smells 110% identical to bukhoor.
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Well, hawk... it depends what you mean by 'smells like oud chips'.
    I have a South Indonesian oil which smells identical to the wood from that region, and another East Indonesian which smells...
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    Re: Amouage Attars???

    Hmm,
    I got a chance to smell Amouge's pure 'oud' oil, and I couldn't smell any oud in it. : \
    Especially surprising, considering the hefty pricetag!
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Can't say I could add any more to that.
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    @ Futami: I'm afraid a split of Thaqeel is next to impractical.
    The thing is, the oil is so viscous and so sticky/thready, that it would basically sticking at the bottom of the bottle...
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    Re: What does Amber smell like?

    If you want to smell one of the finest amber, be sure to contact Abu Bakr Al-Misky (BN'er). He has one of the finest amber oils for sale.
    And the price is great too!
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    No probs Igor. ;- )

    I hope people realize that they're paying less than 40% of the regular price, for two of the greatest (if not THE greatest) oud oils they can get their hands on!
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    edit: deal ended.
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    edit: deal over.
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    Re: Aoud / Oud / Oudh / Agarwood

    Please check PM, SculptureOfSoul.
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    Re: what's the best montale AOUD?

    You may want to try Oriscent's Purple Papua or Sheikh's Borneo.
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    Re: what's the best montale AOUD?

    One more question - is strength a factor? Some people want a nice Oud hit. Others can't stand it.
    There are lovely Ouds, but which are very soft. And then others (which are also lovely, but) that...
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    Re: what's the best montale AOUD?

    Hawk, may I ask what specifically you are looking for as the 'Oud' character? Is it a resinous note, woodiness, barnyard, leather... ?
    I might be able to give suggestions based on what you're...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    No probs Ibn Saeed.
    One other place you might want to check out is (believe it or not!) QTs Store.

    Ask him if he still has any of the Malaysian he carried about 4-5 years ago. That Malaysian was...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Assalamu alaykum Ibn Saeed,

    Malaysian ouds from Melaka display a certain quality which is a bit similar to Indian ouds: pungency.
    They can be one of the woodiest woody ouds, more specifically...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Out of curiosity have you smelled the King Fahad blend, or the King Abdullah blend?

    I would agree with you, in that I *personally* prefer and love pure oud oil the most.
    However, some mukhallats...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    A question for pure-Oud die-hard loyalists:
    No doubt great oud is a great scent on its own. But do you also consider mukhallats with high quality ouds (and hence a hefty price tag) to be...
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    Re: Why do SCENTS come alive in COOL weather?

    Well, I'm going to speak in reference to oud only - and most certainly, the smell gets much more appealing, vibrant and 'clear' in colder weather (even more so than usual! ;-) ).
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    Re: New Oud Source

    Thanks for the kind words guys. : )
    Naw, I'm not knowledgeable, Igor! And yeah, I should be getting the hydro-distilled Borneo oil very soon!
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    Re: The School of Oud

    Check PM @rick. : )
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    Re: The School of Oud

    @ Andy and Rick, I would suggest you try a high quality pure oud oil. Even a tiny sample.
    The difference in smell between high end and low end ouds is *HUGE*. I cannot stress this enough.

    Low-end...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Check it out... http://www.oudhasi.com
    Seems to have fine Hindi oils, and lovely pictures too!
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Thanks everyone for the input. : )

    The thing is, I really like the blend of peninsular Malaysian oil (sharp and woody) with a south-south Indonesian oil (sweet, musky).
    The more 'orthodox' blends...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Do any of you have a bias against buying blended ouds? i.e. a blend of ouds from different regions?
    I understand that one of the delights of oud is that we are able to enjoy natural fragrances in...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Thanks everyone for your responses.
    I had totally forgotten about the additional shipping charges if I were to decide for crystal bottles.
    The price per bottle would actually be not too much -...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    I'd like to know people's views on fancy crystal bottles v.s. the regular gold-leaf dipstick bottles.
    If you could get a crystal bottle by paying $6-10 more, would you go for that, or you couldn't...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Wow... I'm impressed.
    Someone actually liked the Assam at first impression more than her tamed Indonesian cousins!

    And it's interesting you find it to have the least staying pwer, because I find...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    btw, some might find this of interest : )
    Treatment with the Help of Indian Aloeswood
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Well, I absolutely love Indonesian oils. And this oil is one of the worst ouds I have ever smelled.
    Smells like tar, sweetened with a cotton-candyish sweetness.
    NOT a good combo.

    The guy I got...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Hmm.. I have an Indonesian oil from Malino.
    It.... broke my heart. :cry:
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Of course, that's the thing with Oud.
    Quantity-wise, obviously it's reeeeaaally expensive compared to your regular alcohol-and-water-based colognes.
    But considering the fact that Oud is the...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    I suggest you slowly work your way up to the strongest oil, so you can get used to the Oud character.
    I'd say go with the Sheikh's next, followed by the Chinese, finally the Assam.
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Hmm, well I've never ordered any from them since I couldn't justify ordering some internationally if all I was getting was a glass stick.

    From what I've seen, these sticks are one-size-fits-all....
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Yep, they're very nice indeed. Like I said, Al-Haramain has those and I personally prefer the glass sticks to the plastic ones.
    I have this notion, don't know how true it is, that prolonged exposure...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Yep, attached to the cap. See the pic below:
    http://img.alibaba.com/photo/216071290/Glass_stick.summ.jpg
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    [/quote]Yep.
    By the way, the company I linked earlier for the bottles also sells glass applicator rods.
    Not too feasible tho, I guess. To order a glass stick from China. : P
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    No broblem habibi acer3. : p

    Al-Haramain beat you to it! They have those regular dipstick bottles, but the stick itself is glass.
    And I too have a bias against plastic sticks too. God knows what...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Hehe... It gets exposed to hot water, and lots of swishing. Followed by application to a large surface area of the body.

    By the way, for some odd reason I (and some other[s] here) have noticed...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Any time.

    I personally don't care for paying an Oud dude extra just for a fancy bottle, but don't mind getting the fancier bottles myself. To me, even owning Oud is a joy, and so I like having...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    lol... I got a PM about the website as well.
    Wondering why I didn't just post the link before.
    Anyway, here it is.

    I think UNS might be getting some of their bottles from them as well. This one...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Yep, it's a tola size! So the 3ml would probably be even cheaper.

    Personally, I love the Eyptian style very much also. They're very delicate so not the most portable, but nice for your personal...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    The cheapest K9 glass and/or lead crystal bottles I've seen for the equivalent of Oriscent's higher-end oil bottles (same shape, etc. but tola size) is approximately $20.
    I'm assuming he bought in a...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    If anyone's interested in trying a non-Oriscent Tarakan oil, you could check out Sharif's Tarakan Royale. $380/3ml. Here's how he described it:
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Thanks RKSons for that.

    @acer3, have you tried Purple Papua? If so, I'd love to read your review of it.

    By the way, I should be receiving a Tarakan Borneo oil hopefully next week from a...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    You know, I was thinking......
    RK's hindi is steam extracted, and anyone who has smelled it can tell just how very different it is from the other hindis out there. The only thing similar to it is...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Sheikh's Borneo is absolutely devoid of any animalic/fecal notes.
    It's 'milder' in the sense that it does not have the Indo-Chinese animalic/fecal profile.
    However, it might still be strong for...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    @ TromboneGuy: if this is your first exposure to Oud, I have a suggestion.

    Disregard all the great things you have heard about Oud. Expect something unexpected, strange, almost repulsive, at...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Has anyone tried iFaru's Ouds?
    A friend tried the Hindi and said it was pretty good. Was wondering if anyone else has tried it, or their Cambodi.

    They have their own distillery in India by the...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Those who don't like the turpy smell of Tarakan Borneo oils might like to try out something further south of the Island. DS Kalimantan is a nice oil; so don't be thrown off just because his other...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    The new one bears a closer resemblance to Archipelago I think, but more or less the same as the last batch.
    It's still quite a light oil as well, like its predecessor.
    That's not necessarily a bad...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Indeed, his Kalimantan oil is of exceptional quality I have to say. His old Malaysian was not bad either.
    You're right, the Kalimantan bears a resemblance with Oriscent's Archipelago. But the...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Someone gave away a sample of his 'new' DS Kalimantan last week to me.
    Pretty good Indonesian specimen, I must say.
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    @Organic1, Sorry, I had been under the impression you were asking about chips and not oil.
    For oils, I would certainly say good Borneos (for me at least). They have a deeply satisfying and...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Agree with Abdul Qa'im.

    Abu Bakr has got pretty good Hindi chips.
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Indeed!
    I was wondering if there are any other good Cambodian specimen in the < $175 range?
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Ahh, this is quite embarassing - I just double checked and somehow I had overlooked something (I think you can all spot it):
    "The cost for 1 tola of the new Tarakan oil including shipping cost is...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    One tola of his new Tarakan oil + shipping cost is about $450.
    His Merauke oil is $210 per tola, excluding shipping. Haven't tried it, so can't comment on it.
    His Jayapura is $160 per tola. As...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Did anyone decide to try Jujur Mujur's Tarakan (or any other oil)?

    I've tried his previous Tarakan oil, as well as his Jayapura.
    The Jayapura is the same as UNS's Irian Jaya #72, but it boasts a...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Unfortunately, I didn't. Wish I had though.
    Distillers naturally often don't have the same oil for too long since they sell quite large quantities, especially to the Middle East.

    He just sent me...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Well, it's too bad he does not carry it any more.
    There is, however, another person in Indonesia who I know currently sells oil from the same region (Samarinda, Borneo). However, I do not know how...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    I would agree with acer; way too many people start off with bad Oud and think, 'is this what people kept going on about?!' (sorry Abu Bakr, I stole your line!)
    And so, I would agree that starting...
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