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    Re: Clean Perfume Formulation

    Of course the definition of clean is fungible...
    But what comes to mind are these lines of thought:
    Bright citric freshness, greens, and musks that have become associated with clean, because of use...
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    Re: Raw Material Suppliers in Canada

    Mentioned in her Woops thread.
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    Re: Changing my technique

    Sorry, already noted:
    Benzyl Sal, Timbersilk, Hedione, and iso E are not topnotes.

    But, to answer a large point, hmmm, well, you can blend a harmonious top note, maybe like you are, sans the...
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    Re: Another question about dissolving absolutes

    Absolutes may not be usable in fixed oils. Each would need testing. But your impression is correct, you will need to thin out/dissolve first. You can see if a good solving agent is listed on the...
  5. Thread: New on here

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    Re: New on here

    (To condense Bill's response)

    The reason to know the time a material takes to disappear, is to be able to plan and anticipate a fairly constant evaporative curve of your fragrance. This will help...
  6. Re: woops, got carried away... help whittle this cart !!

    Well, You can get distilled oranges fruit oil, (it's amazing) and you can get Orange rind distilled and expressed oils. (they have different constituential ratios, and distilled is pretty much very...
  7. Re: woops, got carried away... help whittle this cart !!

    Hello. I have hesitated to speak up, because you are so very excited....

    But I thought that I had better speak.

    In 2010, I bought 100g of Broom Absolute for $520.00 USD from a wholesale...
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    Re: Is there a lime ac....

    I actually quite curious why Citrylal has an evaporative period of only 4 hours, when it's MW = 226 . . . ? ? ?
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    Re: Disposal of materials

    I dump things on my dry wooden backyard fence, when sun is forecast here in the Desert-y Los Angeles. that way they can soak into the wood, and effortlessly evaporate over the course of days,...
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    Re: Green Tea Accord

    "Green Tea", is yes, much more of a fantasy odor profile, for the vast majority of perfumery materials.

    You can take my Black tea base, and green it and soften it, if you like... That would be...
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    Re: Is there a lime ac....

    Saying the same thing, Maybe Citrylal / Citrathal Tech meets these specs.

    But also, some of the exotic Bedoukian aldehydes do this job well too. But they are hard to come by, now that Bedoukian...
  12. Re: woops, got carried away... help whittle this cart !!

    My recommendation, is to buy that which fits a formula from TGSC that you want to make, to learn making that formula. Then buy again for another formula.
    Then you will learn your materials slow...
  13. Re: Adding oakmoss to a classic scent (Chanel Pour Monsiuer EDT) ?

    So, Oakmoss isn't an essential oil, it is a very thick goopy paste-y absolute.
    Yes, you could try placing some real Oakmoss into your perfume. You should place it in, and let it sit in the perfume...
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    Re: Guide to Rose accord

    I like it though... And in sort of a similar vein is the hard to come by unless you buy a kilo, is Cyclomethylene Citronellol.
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    Re: Guide to Rose accord

    Yes.
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    Re: What pairs well with orange blossom?

    Original Tabu had this list of raw materials:
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    Re: Guide to Rose accord

    A conflation between a rose alcohol and a sulfur molecule just may be the most asinine statement to come out of the person's mouth.
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    Re: Guide to Rose accord

    Uhhhhhhhh Are you really equating / co-classifying PEA and DMS?
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    Re: Guide to Rose accord

    Thanks, corrected...
  20. Re: concept fleshing - help me use my coriander seed oil

    Nicotiro. You just cannot equate Heliotrop- (anything), with anything with Valer- in the name. There is no comparison.

    Coriander leaf EO is AKA Cilantro.

    Are you buying these products at a...
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    Re: Guide to Rose accord

    Maybe I had the Absolute and the otto mixed up... But I have seen as much as 80% in a Rose GC result.
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    Re: Guide to Rose accord

    This is a simplified GC of a rose absolute. But I'm sure that you can ignore the ethanol.
    But for my tastes, this is a very large dosage of PEA. I usually prefer around 40% PEA.
    I have not...
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    Re: Any advice on my percentages

    Looking this over, I would guess that your damascone and Safraleine levels would be too high.
    And Iso E Super and hedione are not high enough.
  24. Re: concept fleshing - help me use my coriander seed oil

    I've studied both the leaf and the fruit GC's before... when you shared that it had high doses of aldehydes, I knew instantly that it was a leaf gc.
    (I also knew that Linalool is the primary...
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    Re: Burnt, Roasted or Cooked aroma?

    CAUTION!

    If you do manage to get *some* pyrazines in, in a pure state, and you've never smelled them before, do yourself a favor, and open them the first time, outside only, and approach smelling...
  26. Re: Plastic Pipettes, Micropipettes, and Mixing Pots. How do you build your perfume?

    Silicone is a good option.
    But I've not found silicone bulbs to be available in the USA.
    I do have a manufacturer ready to make them here in the US, but he wants a 5000 MOQ, *AND he wants to make...
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    Re: Ylang Ylang not dissolving

    PA Notice: "Notice: We have temporarily removed the J.Steele items from our website"
    John Steele ships his own product from his business. Maybe he decided to hunker down and not go out.. and so...
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    Re: Ylang Ylang not dissolving

    There are some materials that you just have to leanr how to utilize better.
    Ylang is one of them. Just use it undiluted into your concentrate.
    Same with Maltol.
  29. Re: Plastic Pipettes, Micropipettes, and Mixing Pots. How do you build your perfume?

    I cannot recommend to place your materials in bottle with rubber bulbs and droppers. The rubber bulb will deteriorate, and will oxidize your product inside without you knowing.
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    Re: Burnt, Roasted or Cooked aroma?

    "Roasted, Burnt" 's are the pyrazines. They are a little harder to come by in small qty, but look around to see what you can forage.
    They are a bit like buying toilet paper right now, hard to find....
  31. Re: concept fleshing - help me use my coriander seed oil

    I'm sorry, but you missed it...
    That is a GC for Cilantro leaf, the plant of Coriander.

    You need to look at the Seed/fruit EO GC.

    This is what you need to look at:...
  32. Re: concept fleshing - help me use my coriander seed oil

    Have you studied the GC for Coriander seed oil yet?
    What did you learn was it's primary constituent?
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    Re: letting your fragrance mature?

    gees, that was big! LOL! But I typed in Big Thumbs Up, and that's what I got for you Filousoph! :-)
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    Re: letting your fragrance mature?

    https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/postbulletin.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/b/60/b60a0993-01e8-5b59-82e0-c42b6b95965a/5a1c265fb6932.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C1150
  35. Re: Plastic Pipettes, Micropipettes, and Mixing Pots. How do you build your perfume?

    The micropipette tips are intended to toss out. Use them like that.
    But if you want to reuse them, you could dedicate a sealable vial / bottle to hold the micropipette tip for as long as you...
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    Re: Could Be Interesting

    Last time I looked, it was missing Hedione and Iso E Super.
    I decided I would wait quite awhile before I bothered to look at it again...
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    Re: Pine trees near me

    When you buy a pine EO, it is from the needles. Comes with limonene and pinene. But tincture also has lots of water too. Could work, but maybe also problematic to tincture.
    About the sap, I've...
  38. Thread: Pomade?

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    Re: Pomade?

    Try here:
    https://www.essentialnaturaloils.com/floral-waxes
  39. Thread: Pomade?

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    Re: Pomade?

    You could use some floral waxes as part of the product, that might be nice, and they are very inexpensive too.
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    Re: Nose sharpening tricks?

    Smelling coffee beans to clear your nose, is a huge myth and misnomer. Completely wrong.

    Coffee is one of the most complex, (read that as hundreds of molecules), and smelling coffee only places...
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    Re: Well I bought a handful of stuff

    Ahh. OK, Thanks, AKA Hyacinth Body...
    got that one.. :-)
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    Re: Dew/water/ozone ingredient

    Scentenal is a great idea....

    And just a note: Because of the postponement of WPA in Florida this year, I am not sure when this might happen, but (insert big company name) will be releasing a...
  43. Re: What fragrances are you working on at the moment and the thoughts behind them?

    Hello James... :-)

    I think I need to ask you to make yourself a notation for the future.
    Please note the names, Hex-'a'-nol, and Hex-'e'-nol.
    You consistently use the a instead of the e, when...
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    Re: Mind Map and Mixing Different Accords

    If this is your method for this time period, learn it well, see what it can and cannot do for you.
    There are many methods of Perfumery composition.
    The method you mention is just one.

    Because...
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    Re: How to make Tinctures?

    Coffee Tinctures have been addressed here in this forum, may I suggest that you do a little digging to learn what you seek. But to recap, I will tell you that I think that coffee tinctures are a...
  46. Re: ingredient ( chemicals or naturals ) to give more projection and fixation

    Dua clones are inexpensive copies, made with inferior ingredients. The formulations do not last well. They try to compensate by increasing the quantity of fragrance concentrate in the product, as...
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    Re: What make rose smell so fruity/jammy?

    Fruit Sec base and Davana, in smallish doses, are very useful for "jammy".
  48. Re: What fragrances are you working on at the moment and the thoughts behind them?

    James, yes, I do use some leather materials, but I wasn't going to dictate my entire formula. I did give six of the materials, though.
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    Re: Well I bought a handful of stuff

    I'd like some too...
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    Re: My order for perfumers supply house:) !!!

    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/fFsAAOSwroZas79w/s-l300.jpg
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    Re: Well I bought a handful of stuff

    Yes, Glad someone is selling Sultanene.
    Where did you get the Oxania? And Emeraldine?
    Don't know these two.
  52. Re: What fragrances are you working on at the moment and the thoughts behind them?

    My own Osmanthus base doesn't use Hexanol, but does use Cis-3-hexenol, at 2%.

    I was after a fresh flower accord, but I'd never smelled the fresh flowers before, either.
    After I did actually get...
  53. Linalool, Oxidized Linalool, and Contact Dermititis

    Sharing from:

    Prabodh Satyal PhD [Dr. S]

    Chief Scientific Officer

    CONTACT DERMATITIS OF OXIDIZED LINALOOL

    There are several essential oils (EOS) or cosmetic products that contain...
  54. Re: What fragrances are you working on at the moment and the thoughts behind them?

    Osmanthus supposedly likes lots of sun. But here in the Hot Hot desert, the leaves got burnt in full sun, so my plants are on the north side of the house in 3/4 shade. Osmanthus goes by a couple of...
  55. Re: What fragrances are you working on at the moment and the thoughts behind them?

    Yup, hexanol is a tiny molecule, a short lived topnote thing.... you'll need to pick a more middle note molecule to base your perfume around....
    Do you have Osmanthus flowers to smell? Mine are...
  56. Re: Letís talk methodology and your approach in perfume making

    "Chocolate" is often, half vanillin.
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    Re: Dew/water/ozone ingredient

    "water" is elusive, and takes excellent balancing of seemingly unrelated materials.
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    Re: Help reading a GCMS (Neroli Portofino)

    Bactracking from my comments about Linalyl Anthranilate, as occurring in Tom Ford Neroli Portofino.

    ~ Reading another GC that I have access to, I DO see Linalyl Anthranilate occurring in those...
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    Re: Help reading a GCMS (Neroli Portofino)

    Backtracking from my comments
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    Re: Help reading a GCMS (Neroli Portofino)

    Backtracking from my comments
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    Re: Making Schiff Bases

    Yes, Smells a lot like several other orangeblossom schiff base type materials.
    But given it's molecular size, it is likely still a middle, to upper base note.
    It also didn't like dissolving into...
  62. Re: Orange Blossom/Neroli Accord- do I have the right stuff?

    I don't really smell "Orange" fruit in Orangeblossom, though...
  63. Re: Why do ultraniche fragrances not smell expensive?

    I see that Tommy has 10.25% DHM.
    That and other things make the top secetion.
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    Re: Making Schiff Bases

    All I had to use was a 50/50 Acetaldehyde alcoholic dilution, I drained the alcohol and water yesterday, as it was left after the reaction.
    I am letting these crystals dry out today, before...
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    Re: Making Schiff Bases

    I've not really had good success with Ketone Schiff bases.
    I've failed with Musk Ketone, and I'm not really sure if my Acetophenone worked right either.
    I may have tried another too. And I have...
  66. Thread: Cacao extract

    by pkiler
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    Re: Cacao extract

    I really have very little experience with cacao beans, I don't even know anything about the peels of the beans, sorry.
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    Re: Cooperative material learning

    By Al Means, fell free to use the Single Note forum as the place to talk about your own thoughts about Dihydromyrcenol, I thank that is really a great part of how to use it, and honestly, what it is...
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    Re: Making Schiff Bases

    Acetaldehyde also makes an interesting schiff base, too.121371121372
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    Re: Ruh kewda / Pandanus oil

    My reading of the website you found is that is not one that I've heard of.
    There are no real huge glaring errors that I see.
    They did confess that their Lily oil is a fragrance oil, points for...
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    Re: Chaparral/Creosote Accord?

    I can't say about dried. Never tried it.
    (Although I have some in a bag in the garage, that I picked a month ago that I could try, I suppose.)
    But the odor quantity has certainly gone down...
  71. Re: Perfumers alcohol with harsh alcoholic note

    that is adding a whole lot of water, not really recommended.

    1. You can substitute some of the alcohol for another solvent like IPM, DPG, TEC, etc.

    2. You can place in your formula some extreme...
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    Re: Good GCMS in Europe

    I have none of the listed GC's available.
    I still have only knowledge of high quality North American GC labs, since that is my sphere of business.

    I use Creative Accord (USA) and Phytochemia...
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    Re: Verdox replacement

    Accurate, maybe, but there are exactly zero references online about a C-2 Aldehyde.
    *Every* reference is Acetaldehyde.

    But as for use, there are 95 version references as sold by suppliers on...
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    Re: Verdox replacement

    Well, next time, use a real name then, instead of one that you made up on the spot
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    Re: Verdox replacement

    CAS # please. Or did you omit a digit?
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    Re: Might be too much to ask...

    Go ahead and post your materials list.
    And post what you think you want to work on...
  77. Thread: Cacao extract

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    Re: Cacao extract

    Using the term "extract", has a technical definition, being a water/alcoholic borne extraction.

    IS that what you mean? or something else?

    Next, The choice of extraction style is up to you, but...
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    Re: Help me smell like a 15 year old!!!

    As above, Dihydromyrcenol at 10% or a little higher, Habanolide at 10%, and many others mentioned above.
    And also: This is what is wrong with Fragrances.
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    Re: Shaking/stirring device

    Maybe you can watch this to learn something for the use of a magnetic sitirrer.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZvPkxSP-hY

    Or this one:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCpL4o09vao
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    Re: Verdox replacement

    Jeppius, Are you basing your desire to make the Pear accord, based on the PA self description, and without smelling it?
    Or do you have some, and you like it, and you want to try to make it yourself?...
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    Re: Creating fragrances with basenotes only

    Yes, you must be missing something, because both Vanillin and Ethyl Vanillin ARE different. AND, Patchouli EO and Patchouli Abs ARE different.
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    Re: Shaking/stirring device

    Gently... maybe... Shaking adds oxygen to the perfume, and oxidation is a Perfume's enemy...

    Swirling is better, in my opinion.
    (That's why I use the magnetic stirrer...)
  83. Re: Chanel Antaeus suggestion chemical aroma help

    Have you sent it out for a GCMS Test yet?
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    Re: J.U.S Parfums Public Formulas

    Looks like a standard Grojsman accord perfume...
    I was thinking about the coumarin content, but seems like it is ok once diluted.
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    Re: My order for perfumers supply house:) !!!

    Well, while she has received the shipment, as of Tuesday, but I still I have to bill her for them, then she will be able to price them accordingly.
    I sent here a text message and I would bet she...
  86. Thread: Ambrocenide 10%

    by pkiler
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    Re: Ambrocenide 10%

    Ambrocenide is one of the stronger materials to smell.
    Personally, dosing it higher than at 0.3% could easily get you into trouble and it can take over a perfume.
  87. Thread: Easing anxiety

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    Re: Easing anxiety

    Thanks will look into it!
  88. Thread: Easing anxiety

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    Re: Easing anxiety

    I'm trying to figure out good online live classes for teaching Perfumery. everyone will be home and a captive audience, just trying to find a silver lining, and earn a bit of income.

    Though, my...
  89. Re: Client asks me to make 20 gallons of hand sanitizer, Now to just buy the materials!

    Just cannot order the Carbopol / Carbomer, anywhere.

    Next, the US FDA issued formulator's guidelines for making Hand Sanitizer products today.
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    Re: Rose otto doesn't dilute completely

    Fatty fixed oils are fruit seed, seed, and nut oils, Almond oil, jojoba oil, carrot seed oil, etc. They are also called carrier oils. But they don't like alcohol very well. Fatty acids are other...
  91. Re: Orange Blossom/Neroli Accord- do I have the right stuff?

    Dear Young Padawan Bkkorn,
    I do refrain from making comments sometimes, because I let people make mistakes, because that is how we all learn.

    You have made (another) big mistake here, by...
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    Re: Question about notes ratio

    There are NO RULES.
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    Re: Rose otto doesn't dilute completely

    Seems like it might be adulterated with a fatty fixed oil, or has a very high amount of fatty acids that have trouble with alcohol.
  94. Re: Client asks me to make 20 gallons of hand sanitizer, Now to just buy the materials!

    In this case, the client booking this is another Perfumer from outside the USA. He wants to have scented Hand sanitizer. I can't help him with soap, not made any, and soap is readily available,...
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    Re: Would love advice/ need guidance

    https://www.amazon.com/Essence-Alchemy-Natural-History-Perfume/dp/1586857029/
  96. Re: Client asks me to make 20 gallons of hand sanitizer, Now to just buy the materials!

    my alcohol supplier has allowed me to order 15 gallons of 99% IPA, YAY!
    What I can't get is the carbomer/carbopol, to make it gel. So, it will be a spray, instead of a gel.
  97. Re: Client asks me to make 20 gallons of hand sanitizer, Now to just buy the materials!

    HA!
  98. Re: Client asks me to make 20 gallons of hand sanitizer, Now to just buy the materials!

    I bought 5 gallons Isopropyl Alcohol 99.99% Mil-spec quality, last year, a bit higher quality than I needed for cleaning... so I already have it. But I'll be ordering 15 gallons IPA from a...
  99. Client asks me to make 20 gallons of hand sanitizer, Now to just buy the materials!

    I called a supplier today for the first time, they answered the phone:
    "Hello, this is X Company, we are out of Isopropyl alcohol and Carbomer, what can I help you with?"
    LOL!
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    Re: 2 Caramel accords- Enjoy!

    To me, Tonka/coumarin in vanilla, usually ends up at "Cookie".
    Could be wrong, as I've not made your formula. But Caramel Formulas don't often have any coumarin in them.
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