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  1. Re: Need Help with Solubility for Helional/Methyl Anthranilate Schiff Base

    I will. I probably won't get around to it for a while though as I have to purchase a pump and funnel for filtering but I will report back once I have had a chance to mess around with it.
  2. Re: Need Help with Solubility for Helional/Methyl Anthranilate Schiff Base

    Thank you Thomash
  3. Re: Need Help with Solubility for Helional/Methyl Anthranilate Schiff Base

    You were not ignored by me David, I have only ever held your knowledge in high esteem when it comes to perfumery. I seem to remember you having words with another person in the thread but it wasn't...
  4. Re: Ethanol + Hedione + Iso E ? Where to start...?

    Start with the sticky threads, read through them, get to know your materials, experiment
    This current thread is relevant to your question albeit for different reasons....
  5. Re: Disappointment with mixing fo, eo, and aroma chemicals

    Perfumers alcohol is fine... Do a keyword search for alcohol and you'll find a plethora of information on the subject.
  6. Re: Disappointment with mixing fo, eo, and aroma chemicals

    EO's and AC's are equally important in the context of perfumery but EO's can be more difficult to use due to their inherent complexity - AC's can be seen as single notes whereas EO's are already...
  7. Re: Need Help with Solubility for Helional/Methyl Anthranilate Schiff Base

    David, you are right that I know damn all about chemistry but I don't understand you saying that I have ignored anything... I've never intentionally passed myself off as a chemist or one who is...
  8. Re: Disappointment with mixing fo, eo, and aroma chemicals

    Hi Enhance,
    Your question is too broad.
    Thoroughly read through the sticky threads and use the search function with reckless abandon. ...
  9. Re: Need Help with Solubility for Helional/Methyl Anthranilate Schiff Base

    Interesting... My sample must be dead wrong then. Perhaps I didn't heat it long enough because mine didn't crystalize to that extent and when diluted seemed to mostly dissolve into solution. What...
  10. Re: Clarification on cinnamon aromachemicals?

    Middle note depends on the volatility of the other materials in your formulation as the top, middle and base qualifiers are somewhat relative to each other material within the spectrum of most known...
  11. Re: Need Help with Solubility for Helional/Methyl Anthranilate Schiff Base

    I have a heated stirring plate but my sample is at micro scale so I can't really stir it anyway. jmcdowel, is yours crystalized like Pauls or do you have the same swirling liquid strands and...
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    Re: Hercolyn D replacement?

    I do have quite a few balsamic materials and fixatives but I've never smelled hercolyn D so I wasn't sure if it provided something special besides fixative properties.

    And thank you sir for...
  13. Re: Turning a basic idea into a full fragrance....

    It's just a hair tincture of the wookie, they shave them so no wookies are actually harmed in the process.
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    Re: Hercolyn D replacement?

    Cool to hear about the new leather accord! Is Hercolyn D not replaceable in this formulation? Thank you for the offer Paul but I have quite a few things I can try... Is it just a fixative or does...
  15. Re: Need Help with Solubility for Helional/Methyl Anthranilate Schiff Base

    Pretty funny, I still have little globules in my helional base... they are possibly water or perhaps some of the "impurities" thomash spoke of, I might try a dessicant and see if it gets pulled out. ...
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    Re: Free Fragrance Composition Software

    Mumsy, you could try a windows emulator like WINE but it's not the smoothest way to implement anything on a mac.
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    Hercolyn D replacement?

    I looked back at the PA leather accord I made and it still doesn't smell the way I want it to so I'm making some adjustments. Upon inspection I realized that I never added the Hercolyn D that was...
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    Re: Free Fragrance Composition Software

    Damnit, I work on a mac! Awesome project though, I considered this concept myself when I first started cataloging my materials. I went back to school for web and multimedia development after I left...
  19. Re: Need Help with Solubility for Helional/Methyl Anthranilate Schiff Base

    Sorry, I was going from memory of what I did several months ago. I misspoke with regard to the temps I actually heated them 50-70C not 150-170... I don't have alcohol anywhere near my setup, I'm not...
  20. Re: Need Help with Solubility for Helional/Methyl Anthranilate Schiff Base

    I ALWAYS mess with things when I don't know what I'm doing, that's how I learn. I don't have any chemical education whatsoever, thanks for the offer nonetheless. Purify? I didn't know I had to...
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    Re: a good scale - 0.01 or 0.001g?

    At .001 you'll need your scale inside of a glove box like compounding pharmacists use... Mine only goes down to .005 and if I breathe on it heavily the scale will fluctuate wildly, I have a small fan...
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    Re: Small note on natural perfumes

    This is sort of how I've been teaching myself perfumery. I've been concentrating heavily on accord "themes" getting the smoothest, most concentrated and idealized accord possible and then joining...
  23. Re: Need Help with Solubility for Helional/Methyl Anthranilate Schiff Base

    After moving, getting settled and partially setting up my lab again I was finally able to dilute my home-made Helional/MA Schiffs Base sample today. I'm having solubility issues too but not quite as...
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    Re: Formal Fragrance Training Courses

    I started with the aftel book and I think that it is a good primer but it's nothing that can't be obtained from other books... the only advantage to her book is that it's simply written and it's an...
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    Re: Cannabis in perfumery

    Someone might find this useful

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  26. Re: NYC Perfume Fabrication House. and Chandler's swipe at Natural Perfumery

    This subject never seems to get boring, lol!
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    Re: i love pistachio ...

    Pistacios rock! I'm also very fond of hazelnut which, to me, has similar qualities - although a bit more malty. I have a hazelnut eo that could probably be made into a pistacio accord if some green...
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    Re: Raspberry-Ketone, strange things...

    I've overused rk quite a bit due to the phenomenon you are describing. At 10 percent it smells vaguely juicy to me and that is all but as soon as I add it to a blend it becomes overwhelmingly...
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    Re: Gamma Methyl Ionone

    I have methyl ionone gamma 70, 90 & isoraldeine, they all smell different but similar. The 90 is a bit more violet and "heavy" than isoraldeine and the 70 is slightly more woody and orris-like than...
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    Re: Warm sand accord?

    There was a thread regarding salt notes a couple of months ago, that thread might be useful in the context of sand if you are thinking of ocean sand.
  31. Re: Are there anti-irritants that can be added to perfumes?

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think that the irritation with many perfumery materials has more to do with causing allergic reactions, chemical sensitivities and sun sensitivities. I've been...
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    Re: Less volatile alternatives to benzaldehyde

    If you're looking for a base material then try making a base from the anisic aldehyde and MA, it looses that intense dusty aldehydic character and becomes sweeter and deeper. You could even try a...
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    Re: Blue Lotus Absolute

    It does have a vegetable aspect to it, somewhat green, the one I have reminds me of a blend between Frangipani and Magnolia but more on the magnolia side when I revisited it recently.
  34. Re: Anyone has experience with Perfumer's Apprentice GC?

    No big deal, thanks for commenting anyway. Back to perfuming :)
  35. Re: Anyone has experience with Perfumer's Apprentice GC?

    I can see where one might take issue with that statement and I don't necessarily disagree with you David. To be honest I don't believe in the concept of sentience in nature but I believe that there...
  36. Re: Anyone has experience with Perfumer's Apprentice GC?

    I imagine more so for some than it is for others...
  37. Re: Anyone has experience with Perfumer's Apprentice GC?

    Many good points Pears.
  38. Re: Anyone has experience with Perfumer's Apprentice GC?

    I see the beauty in all materials man made or otherwise... I have no conflict with any of that and I'm not debating suitability or dominance. I just like discussing philosophical concepts and the...
  39. Re: Anyone has experience with Perfumer's Apprentice GC?

    C'mon David, now don't you feel a just little bit better having said that? Get it off your chest, Hahahaha.

    I don't think there was any specific mention of plants being "sentient", merely that...
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    Re: The Power of Aging Fragrances

    Oman Frankincense is currently $92 for 1/4 ounce at Eden Botanicals... seems like a pretty penny when run of the mill carterii, frearena or serrata from India or Somalia are only around $15 USD for...
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    Re: The Power of Aging Fragrances

    There is not much rational, mostly hypothesizing that it seems possible and wondering how possible it actually is. Whenever money is involved it's not very far fetched to think that someone has...
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    Re: The Power of Aging Fragrances

    Is that genuine surprise or do I smell a touch of sarcasm? Hehehe.
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    Re: The Power of Aging Fragrances

    It seems to me that it is just as likely and possible that if a GC of an aged material were obtained that it could be pretty well replicated between several processes adulterants and/or treatments. ...
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    Re: The Power of Aging Fragrances

    If this were absolutely the case then wouldn't Chris's method of heat aging his perfumes also reduce the base and middle notes?
  45. Re: Anyone has experience with Perfumer's Apprentice GC?

    Yes, very well stated and I couldn't agree more. I am one of those nature loving peoples who votes with his wallet. However, that said, I also know that many people of this mindset will not admit...
  46. Thread: Fecal notes

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    Re: Fecal notes

    They should just cut to the chase and claim that it contains unicorn poop and golden illuminatti sweat instead of ambergris, it would probably sell better because the ingredients are more rare and...
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    Re: Blotter evaluation vs skin evaluation

    Thanks, that helps. So, it sounds as though strips are used in order to give a very general indication of a perfumes performance but are not by any means an "end all, be all"- just another means to...
  48. Thread: Fecal notes

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    Re: Fecal notes

    "Interesting" from a marketing perspective, lol, looks like they want their customer base for those products to believe. So what are they using, Ambroxan?
  49. Re: Magnetic Scent blog - "finding the right solvents"

    Ok, thanks for sharing the info. I never would have thought that it would be the case that "scentless" materials would make a huge difference but perhaps they play other roles such as fixatives or...
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    Re: Blotter evaluation vs skin evaluation

    I do use the strips in order to come back to it so I guess I use them correctly in that sense. I use them to evaluate single materials, to evaluate the layering of blends, volatility and to...
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    Re: Blue Lotus Absolute

    Great info on pink lotus Paul, thanks so much for the rundown.
    I also appreciate knowing that Enfleurage is worthy of my business. They have some interesting materials I haven't seen in other...
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    Re: Blotter evaluation vs skin evaluation

    I think the reason we see so many pictures of perfumers smelling strips is because perfumers are the only ones smelling paper strips.

    Hot blooded in many ways, yes, so there might actually be some...
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    Re: Blue Lotus Absolute

    I've wondered about this material... I keep reading how it's supposed to vividly enhance dreams and such but it seems like an expensive experiment to undertake. I have pink lotus absolute and it's...
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    Re: Blotter evaluation vs skin evaluation

    I have yet to identify the problem(s). I've been struggling with this since I started combining materials and it's still perplexing me. I think my next step is to keep everything extremely simple...
  55. Thread: Fecal notes

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    Re: Fecal notes

    When I lived in Philadelphia I used to frequent Chinatown there, most of the incense I smelled was usually saw-dusty and perfumed with who knows what, not very appealing considering how good Japanese...
  56. Thread: Fecal notes

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    Re: Fecal notes

    What do you mean by "Chinese market"?
  57. Re: Anyone has experience with Perfumer's Apprentice GC?

    Graphite, I'm not jumping to bite anyone on this (namely you), I just enjoy philosophical conversations and I don't mind contradictory ideas or paradox. That said :)

    David, I think that is...
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    Re: The Power of Aging Fragrances

    I'm sorry Dr., it's the White Lotus 5yr patchouli I have, not Eden... I also have their patchouli absolute but the 5yr smells deeper and darker to me. I also have the Eden Oman Frankincense (yes...
  59. Thread: Fecal notes

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    Re: Fecal notes

    Well, I guess generally speaking, most perfumers are just average people who don't care how their civet juice is obtained but I'm talking about an "ethically harvested" product which would likely be...
  60. Thread: Fecal notes

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    Re: Fecal notes

    That's not altogether true, there is a huge movement toward organic milk and grass-fed beef, free range eggs and chickens, etc. While I'm sure the conditions are still not what they should be there...
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    Re: Blotter evaluation vs skin evaluation

    I don't have any test bunnies :( Looks like I have to stink all by myself, lol.

    So, are blotter strips mostly used for evaluating volatility of single materils?
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    Blotter evaluation vs skin evaluation

    I've been noticing a huge difference between evaluating a fragrance on blotter vs skin and I'm wondering how much is in my head or part of my personal chemistry and what others experiences are. ...
  63. Re: Magnetic Scent blog - "finding the right solvents"

    I ruined my orris accord the other day adding Benzyl Salicylate... it's a deceptively powerful note that can take over quickly especially when going for a light, woody, transparent floral aroma. The...
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    Re: Colour changing?!

    Thanks for the link, I will read it.
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    Re: The Power of Aging Fragrances

    Eden has a 5yr old patchouli that's pretty nice, I have it. I've often wondered about "aged" oils and some of the more rare ones like Somalian frankincense, etc. One thing I've noticed about them...
  66. Thread: Fecal notes

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    Re: Fecal notes

    Yes, fair trade would definitely be a plus!
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    Re: Colour changing?!

    Is the color change indicative of any other chemical changes or is the chlorophyl just oxidized? Did the experiment change in odor profile as well or just color? Is this a perfume that will be...
  68. Thread: Fecal notes

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    Re: Fecal notes

    If there were a confirmed ethically harvested source, where the animals aren't harmed in any way and are well kept, I imagine they would have a pretty good business...
  69. Re: Magnetic Scent blog - "finding the right solvents"

    Is he talking exclusively about the role of solvents or does he also mean "odorless" chemicals found in true Jasmine by GC/MS?
  70. Thread: Fecal notes

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    Re: Fecal notes

    Beavers are destroying the Tierra del Fuego National Park in southern Argentina, they were introduced as a non native species in the 40's and they currently have no animal predators to reduce their...
  71. Re: Anyone has experience with Perfumer's Apprentice GC?

    Philosophically speaking it could be argued that everything in the known and unknown universe is natural, including "synthetic" materials, thoughts, etc.
  72. Thread: Fecal notes

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    Re: Fecal notes

    So, are you saying that the way civet paste is harvested has changed from the fifteen year old report? How is it currently harvested? That really stinks that so many civets were unnecessarily...
  73. Re: Anyone has experience with Perfumer's Apprentice GC?

    Don't threaten me with a good time!
    Congrats on winning the perfume, I didn't realize you were bidding on the vintage perfume you mentioned. What is the perfume called?
  74. Thread: Fecal notes

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    Re: Fecal notes

    What a horrid experiment, purposely trying to create poo from an artificial bowel. You would also need to add beneficial bacteria to the experiment as gut flora is 60% or more of our digestive...
  75. Re: Anyone has experience with Perfumer's Apprentice GC?

    Oh, that posted while I was writing my last comment.

    Sorry to take this off topic but the question seemed relevant to GC/MS data... I also don't know how to broach the subject without creating a...
  76. Re: Reverse engineering GC - chemical sequences

    Ok, thanks for explaining.
  77. Thread: Fecal notes

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    Re: Fecal notes

    Yikes, so, is ALL civet paste still extracted by force? Is the "pole rub" idea just a lie to confuse matters and retain customers?
  78. Thread: Fecal notes

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    Re: Fecal notes

    My understanding is that the civet has a natural inclination to rub it off of their butt and so they place posts in the cage so that the civets can rub it off onto the post and then the post is...
  79. Thread: Fecal notes

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    Re: Fecal notes

    I always thought it has to do with the fact that civet paste is exuded from the anal glands of the civet which means that there very well may be some fecal matter present.
  80. Re: Reverse engineering GC - chemical sequences

    I thought that when aldehydes oxidize or get old they form acids... isn't this why some aldehydes solidify or lose odor strength over time?
  81. Re: Anyone has experience with Perfumer's Apprentice GC?

    Well, I'm not saying that a new compound does form, I was asking IF it does. What I meant by that statement you quoted is that: IF novel compounds are formed that are not normally found in nature...
  82. Re: Anyone has experience with Perfumer's Apprentice GC?

    Thanks David, that was what I was thinking was the case but I wasn't sure. It seems possible and if it is actually the case then it would completely nullify all but the most "religious" arguments in...
  83. Re: Anyone has experience with Perfumer's Apprentice GC?

    I have a question regarding GC/MS and perfume chemistry that has burning a hole in my head for a while:

    If we blend a bunch of EO's together (only EO's) to form a perfume and let it age and go...
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    Re: Must Have Equipment for your "Lab"

    Which items are you wanting brand suggestions for?
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    Re: Tincture stain

    What about using an oxidizer like peroxide, it decomposes into water and the water can be removed with a drying agent.
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    Re: Natural fruit notes

    I would think that the sugars would come with a dried fruit tincture too... wouldn't sugar be a bad thing?
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    Re: Tincture stain

    Seems like maybe full spectrum daylight lamps would provide enough UV without the heat or possibility of damage, no?
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    Re: Tincture stain

    I would imagine too that you would only be using small amounts of this tincture in a blend so it would be highly diluted. The only way to know is to make a perfume with it at full dilution and spray...
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    Re: Must Have Equipment for your "Lab"

    I have this one, it's a good scale for the price,
    http://www.oldwillknottscales.com/my-weigh-ibalance-101.html
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    Re: Reducing Carboxylic Acids to Aldehydes

    No big deal David, thanks for explaining that, now I get the irony, lol!
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    Re: Reducing Carboxylic Acids to Aldehydes

    You've got to be kidding right? Hahahaha, your statement is highly ironic considering my own humor, in person, is based almost entirely on irony, absurdities and paradox - then again I did watch a...
  92. Re: Reverse engineering GC - chemical sequences

    I've noticed this too. For instance, if I go to wikipedia and look up nutmeg it gives a rundown of the top ten, or so, most abundant chemicals but If I go to Essential Oils University database and...
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    Re: Reducing Carboxylic Acids to Aldehydes

    What is the process and material used for this that makes it practical? Is the reagent easy to remove from the aldehyde?
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    Re: Must Have Equipment for your "Lab"

    I have noticed that if the pipettor is adjusted for a full draw then when the material is taken into the pipettor tip it can fill the tip to the point that it almost touches the nose cone that the...
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    Re: Good heliotope

    This is the same one I have. The descriptors do it some justice and it seems pretty versatile but I've never experienced real heliotropin or even a heliotrope flower so I can't say how similar they...
  96. Thread: Humidity?

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    Re: Humidity?

    Ebanol might give you a sense of thickness, humidity and volume, it can be somewhat musty depending on what it's blended with.
    Florhydral has a moist aspect but it's more fresh, like rain and not...
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    Re: Schiff's bases

    I was unsure about that too and I still am for the most part but usually what I did was keep watching, assessing, smelling... I had to make a few big mistakes in order have a feel for what I was...
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    Re: Propylene Glycol

    Thanks, one I get wrong every time I use it, lol.
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    Re: Reducing Carboxylic Acids to Aldehydes

    There is Ox-Blox (nitrogen gas)
    http://www.lotioncrafter.com/ox-blox.html

    You can also keep them in a fridge and quench them by diluting but I don't know how much to dilute...
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    Re: Must Have Equipment for your "Lab"

    mg scale, small spatulas, test tube racks, lots of paper towels, automatic pipette and tips, vials of many sizes...
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