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    Re: Beginner Neaceous

    g/100mL
    Solvent: ethanol, DPG, etc.
    I prefer ethanol over any other solvent, but...
  2. Re: Non American members - Where do you buy your materials from?

    I am from Brazil, South America. Some of my notes cames from PerfumersApprentice.com.
    Essential Oils and natural origin aroma chemicals are very cheap and high quality, but synthetics are a pain, so...
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    Re: Disposing of failed experiments.

    I put it in a glass bottle for use in household cleaner products that I do.
    I love to do that! Because I always get a different smell experience on using it.
  4. Re: Name the 3 most beautiful material you know

    Humm, hard to decide... but these seems good:

    Melonal
    alfa-Damascone
    Exaltolide
  5. Re: Hmmm, What makes Ammonia? I have an Ammonia note appearing in the bottle headspace.

    "*THINK* that Ammonia needs nitrogen to form"
    "tincture of prehistoric vegetal material"
    Maybe some kind of bacteria metabolites?
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    Re: Matt`s Youtube: Galaxolide

    Very good Matt, I just learned so much.
  7. Thread: Accords

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    Re: Accords

    Take a look at this: https://system.na3.netsuite.com/core/media/media.nl?id=1908&c=3523515&h=f9aa51045947a5ec6506&_xt=.pdf
  8. Re: youtube video made by matt

    hi Matt, I just watch, and liked so much. Subscribed!:thumbsup:
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    Re: Cloning Lacoste Style In Play

    You can find it in Brazilian market, unexpensive even to a brazilian one :...
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    Re: Universal backbone accord from Matt

    Hi Matt!

    What do mean "LILY BASE LYRAL"? A Lyral replacement?

    Thanks!
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    Re: Phenylacetic Acid

    Thanks Paul, I will give it a try!
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    Phenylacetic Acid

    Hi guys!

    I wonder what phenylacetic acid seems like (some ordinary product, not the olfactic description) and I am looking for some molecule I could replace it with.

    Thanks!
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    Re: How to tame Labdanum Absolute.

    If the labdanum is overpowering the composition, it means that probably you have a bad labdanum accord.
    Swap the labdanum for a well ballanced labdanum accord. The problem is not the labdanum, but...
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    Re: Aldehyde C-12 Lauric - solid?

    Oh, please don't blame your suplier, C12 lauric aldehyde is a hard to deal with molecule. My opinion, off course.
    When he shiped it to you, it was a liquid.
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    Re: Aldehyde C-12 Lauric - solid?

    That's bad...
    http://pellwall-perfumes.blogspot.com/2013/02/aldehydes-identification-and-storage.html
    There's no way do reverse this trimerization.
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    Re: IFF Lily Base Replace

    Hi Paul!
    For reasons that I can't explain, I belive that this base is not a "Lily of the valley" type, but a Red Rose base type.
    I had try some IFF demonstrations formulas with "Lily of the...
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    IFF Lily Base Replace

    Hi all!

    I have no idea about what this base (IFF Lily Base) seems like, so I'd like to know a way to replace it in a formula. Something like a similar chemical or simple accord.

    Thanks.
  18. Re: Iso E Super or Ambroxan to mix with CDNIM

    Anything that you add to formula will change it. My advice is don't do that. Want you to try something? try galaxolide, but the fragrance wil not be the same as before.
  19. Re: I need a Fruitchouli type perfume GC to study

    Hi Paul!

    I have perfumersworld (low quality) bulletins number 1, 12, 14, 15, 17 and 19. Could some of these helps you?
  20. Re: Coco Mademoiselle Pink Flower/Fruity Top Note

    There's a IFF Demonstration Formulas Book. Please take a look at "Coco Mademoiselle Type"....
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    Re: Musk Ketone in Hexylene Glycol

    I think that we need to avoid phthalates exposure, because it's a cumulative and seems to be associated to some heath damages, like sperm damage in human.
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    Re: Triplal - origin of name?

    I guess that is by the molecule shape:
    https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/image/imgsrv.fcgi?cid=93375&t=l
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    Re: Musk Ketone in Hexylene Glycol

    I would like to avoid DEP.
    But it seems to be the only suitable solvent for musk ketone.
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    Re: Musk Ketone in Hexylene Glycol

    That's not for production, but tests and accord creations, etc.
    That's how I create my accords: with solutions at 10 or 1% (m/v), I thinks this way is more easy.
    For production I use neat...
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    Musk Ketone in Hexylene Glycol

    Hi guys.
    I wonder if has anyone try to dissolve Musk Ketone in Hexylene Glycol.
    I'm willing to acquisome some for try.
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    Re: Accords vs base

    Hi all.

    I think that both these words (accord and base) doesnt have a clear meaning.
    For example, in the book "Perfumery - Practice and Principles", page94 "The Use of Bases" the author stands...
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    Re: Accords vs base

    I always think about accords as a minimal notes blend, that achieves a characteristic smell.
    Bases are more sophisticated, a mix of other notes and other bases and other accords.
  28. Re: how to work with alcohol c-12 lauric

    Oh, sorry, I made a mistake!
  29. Re: how to work with alcohol c-12 lauric

    That is called trimerization, that turns C12 lauric (a liquid) into a useless and odourless and unsoluble one (solid polymer)...
    I ever wonder how to deal with that but seems that there is no how to...
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    Fixative for peppermint essential oil

    Hello TheyAreInTheTrees!
    There's no "fixative", peppermint are low substantivity and there's nothing you can do about.
    The time a molecule "lasts" in pressure and wet and temperature conditions is...
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    Re: aluminum bottles?

    Hi!
    Something like that? https://www.aluminumbottles.com/
  32. Re: Have you ever had a traumatic experience with certain material? * ULTRAZUR*

    Great! :thumbup:
  33. Re: Have you ever had a traumatic experience with certain material? * ULTRAZUR*

    Did you tried sanding the wood?
  34. Re: Have you ever had a traumatic experience with certain material? * ULTRAZUR*

    Let it sit by the sun, wash it with alcohol. So, let it sit by the sun, wash it with alcohol ... and so on and on.
    So in the end of the "treatment", apply a vetivert solution over it.
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    Re: Friend's Pics

    Nice topic Paul!
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    Re: L'Air Du Desert Marocain

    I would like to support it if I could do it!
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    Re: L'Air Du Desert Marocain

    Up to 2 years ago, here from Brazil I was able to load that site... It seems there is some access restriction for some countrys, I though.

    It owns a valuable perfumist content, I can still...
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    Re: how can they state that?

    Indeed they DON'T KNOW what they are talking about!
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    Re: PK's Super Sugar Base

    Thanks!
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    Re: Blenders in Aventus

    So, maybe if you broke your formula into micro-accords, you could round they more easily.
    For exemple, you could work on the "animalics" first (musks, animals), the fruits, etc.
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    Re: Blenders in Aventus

    Try add some Vanillin.
    Drop by drop.
  42. Re: is it possible to overcome partial anosmia?

    Yes, there's a lot of molecules that I had learned to smell, the most recent ones are Sandela and Indisan.
  43. Boisambrene / Amberwood - identification

    Hi guys.

    I bought some Boisambrene, and I've got very disapointed about it's substantivity. Accoding TGSC, Amberwood substantivity's is about 168 hour, but mine last only some hours. Can someone...
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    Re: Critique My Deluxe Sandalwood Accord

    Valuable tip for a newbie like me! I'm anosmic to some molecules like polysantol and sandela and okoumal.
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    Re: Tonalide

    I think that is not the case, for this molecule. There's a lot of aroma chemicals with 2 CAS, and I am not talking about isomers. Wanna get confused? Take a look at this:...
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    Re: Tonalide

    Both refers to the same molecule.
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    Re: Sharp smell

    Try lower the top notes around 10-20 % of the formula is enough.
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    Re: Help Basenotes become awesomer

    Done!
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    Lemonile properties

    Hi all!

    I would like to get opinions about Lemonile properties like substantiity and color, not the ones from TGSC, but opinions based on your own observations.

    I own 2 samples from different...
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    Re: Musk Ambrette - replace

    Thank you!
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    Musk Ambrette - replace

    Hi guys!

    I don't know Musk Ambrette, and wonder it can be replaced with Ambrettolide or Musk Ketone in a formula, please share your thougths.

    Thanks!
  52. Re: Peonile substantivity and TGSC information

    I do compare it with other chemicals with similar substantivity, on a 10% (m/v) solution. Calone for example don't looses it's olfatic properties after various days on the strip: my Peonile looses...
  53. Peonile substantivity and TGSC information

    Hi all!

    Once I had throw away a Peonile bottle - from a brazilian suplier - because was low tenacity.
    So I have acquired a bottle from PW and for my surprise, the same low substantivity!!!...
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    Re: sample formula

    Sorry, I did not get the meaning of "sticky thread" :tongue:
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    Re: sample formula

    Hi Charlie!

    Working with 100% naturals only is very hard, I think.

    You can try this simple "carnation" accord:

    048 Bergamot
    030 Clove
    020 Rosewood (you can try coriander seed)
    020 Ylang...
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    Re: Coloring Agents for Perfume

    Nope! You will use about 1 drop of the colouring solution by 100mL perfume or more.
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    Re: Coloring Agents for Perfume

    I use food colouring, water soluble. I make a solution of 1mL / 19mL, the solvent is 50% water/50% etanol. Works fine for me.
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    Re: pure galaxolide

    You can find it in MIP too, or pure. Verify your supplier information.

    MIP: https://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/p-6089-galaxolide-50-in-ipm-iff.aspx?keyword=galaxolide
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    Re: Caryophyllene acetate?

    Yes, I think so. If TGSC information is right, this is what happened.
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    Re: Caryophyllene acetate?

    The CAS number is 32214-91-8, so I believe that actually there is a mistaken with the suply of this molecule by the suplier. Although the product page in the suplier site tells it is a solid, the...
  61. Re: alpha pinene and CaryoPhyllene... What happened?

    It seems to me something like deterpenation... this could make sense if you were handling essential oils, not aroma chemicals... very strange.
    Maybe your pinene are low grade purity and/or low...
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    Caryophyllene acetate?

    Hi guys! I acquired some Caryophyllene Acetate, but I am not sure about what really it is. What I get is a clearly liquid, while searching at TGSC, I found that Caryophyllene Acetate is a solid....
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    Re: what's your favorite musk?

    Not always. For exemple, I consider Cashmeran a mid note, because I CLASSIFY notes with substantivities lower than 200 as a mid note.
  64. Re: Rose bulgaria in a very small run of perfume

    I have a Rose Marroco Otto 2ml bottle, it scents like Geranium EO, and have the same odor strength. I had not diluted it, but think that the diluted form is more apropriate for odor strength...
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    Re: what's your favorite musk?

    I love Exaltolide, perhaps because I still don't know Muscone :undecided:
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    Re: Diluting materials, alcohol or IPM?

    Don't dilute based on volumes, but do it based on mass solute / total volume solution, so you will be able to find the actual amount of each product in any of your solutions.
    My advice is to dilute...
  67. Re: alien by Thierry mugler: cedramber, cashmeran... And?

    Maybe, you can try it (citronellol, geraniol).
    I would try some eugenol and/or isoeugenol too, it seems somewhat spicy I think.
    Try to create some accords with this notes, then smell it until you...
  68. Re: alien by Thierry mugler: cedramber, cashmeran... And?

    A lot of BENZYL SALICYLATE, ETHYLENE BRASSYLATE and ISO E SUPER.
    Some COUMARIN, HELIOTROPINE, METHYL ANTHRANILATE and VANILLIN.
    I think there is some kind of IONONE (alpha, beta, isomethyl, etc)...
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    Re: Creating accords and formulas

    I had recommended it to you ;)
    The book is here: https://kisslibrary.com/
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    Re: Antioxidant addition

    Hi Nature,
    I think they are part of the formula, so must be added before with the formulation.
  71. Re: chemical reactions occurring in perfumes

    I am reading "Perfumery: Practice and Principles", very good book. You can find it here: https://kisslibrary.com/
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    Re: The smell of copaiba balsam

    Copaiba is very cheap and popular here in Brazil, the chance of mine be fake is 0%. Smells like a spice wood, something peppery and sharp, a little sweet.
    The smell is medium, and the persistence...
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    Re: Fixative for Dorinia sa e

    You could try:

    Musks:
    -> Ambrettolide
    -> Musk-T

    Woods:
    -> Sandalwood
    -> Iso E Super
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    Re: What about this book?

    Hi Joev you can buy it here: https://kisslibrary.com/book/6b175b644ce0d6207b72
  75. Re: GERMACRENE - Boronia Headspace Based Accord

    Much more unexpensive: probably it is part of some essential oil, try to discover what and use it! The other essential oil molecules must appear in the analysis, so you can find EO is it.

    If you...
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    Re: What about this book?

    Thank you all, I acquire the book! It seems very interesting, I'm reading it now.
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    What about this book?

    Hi.

    I am thinking about to order a PDF book: "Perfumery, Practice and Principles - Robert Calkin and Stephen Jellinek".
    Someone that knows it can recomend as a good information source to who aims...
  78. Re: Profile cards. Idea to help me and a game.

    It seems a nice idea.
    In all of my products bottles have labels, in each one I remark:

    -> Product name
    -> Vapor Pressure
    -> Substantivity
    -> Type of note (a black label identify a base note, a...
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    Re: Simple accord, asking opinions

    Thanks for the advice, Alysoun.
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    Re: Simple accord, asking opinions

    Hi Paul. Although there's too much IBQ and Delta-damascone and Civet, I think that the result gets very fine. If you could waste some time to try this formula... I would like so much to apreciate...
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    Simple accord, asking opinions

    Hi guys!

    I just made this simple accord, and I would like to get your opinions about it, thanks!

    5 ambroxan 10%
    2 etil maltol 10%
    4 civet 10%
    1 delta damascone 10%
    1 rose oxide 10%
    1...
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    Re: minimum ratio for the dpg to fix

    I use 5 percent, but I believe that nothing in the world can reduce evaporation ratio.
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    Musk concentrate

    Hi guys.

    Someone knows what is the "MUSK CONCENTRATE" from some formulas? I bough a cromatograph to study, and there appears this one too, so I think it's a molecule, right?

    Sorry for my poor...
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    Re: A question about how to formulate

    These number are weights, or drops of a solution grams/100ml* of each product.


    * grams: of the product, solute.
    * 100ml: solvent.
  85. Re: Best Musk Ketone Solvent. Benzyl Benzoate, Hedione, etc.?

    BB is fine, for test.
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    C11 aldehydes descriptions

    Hi masterguys!

    I have the c11 undecylenic and undecylic aldehydes.
    Substantivity of undecylic is 51 hours, and undecylenic 293 hours.
    My undecylic persist from days, as my undecylenic is very...
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    Re: Making a Woody Floral Fragrance

    Begin creating simple accords, with the more pleasant proportions.
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    Re: Exaltolide (hard to dissolve)

    Thanks for all, a very rich topic, for me a reference about Exaltolide! I learn a lot!
    So I acquire some exaltolide from outland, and I am very suprise about the strong performance of the real...
  89. Re: What molecules make a scent more "Blue"?

    Floralozone for me is "blue". Very blue!
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    Re: Vetiver Coeur ...

    Hi Jano, do you know Vertofix?
    http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/data/rw1026472.html#tosynm
  91. Re: Which male perfume would you give 10 out of 10 ?

    Safari for Man - Ralph Lauren - the original formula.
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    Re: Beginner needs help

    Here in Brazil I have the same problem.
    So I aquired a distillation glass aparatus and solve the problem forever...
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    Re: Exaltolide (hard to dissolve)

    Nice!
  94. C-12 Aldehyde (lauric) and Aldol Reaction

    Hi guys,

    How to stabilize C-12 lauric alcool solution to prevent precipitation from the aldol reaction?

    Thanks.
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    Re: Exaltolide (hard to dissolve)

    Jano, I decide to not use this "exaltolide", is fancy and probably a mistake of what really is. But no, I don't try DEP.
    Well, I don't know what really is, so I decide to throw it away.

    Thanks!
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    Re: Exaltolide (hard to dissolve)

    PKiler, unfortunately only God know what I purcased. Thanks for help!
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    Re: Exaltolide (hard to dissolve)

    Hi Jano.
    I wanna import from perfumersapprentice, but the costs of delivery to Brazil is 122 dolar plus 60% taxes of the total value!!! The country is in crisis so the value of dolar here is very...
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    Re: Exaltolide (hard to dissolve)

    Hi Dmitriy.
    I try pure DEP, pure IPM, 96% Ethanol and anidrous Ethanol, ever with heating and stirrering. Thanks!
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    Re: Exaltolide (hard to dissolve)

    Thanks David and PKiler, I will buy exaltolide from another source, probably this is a poor quality product, or god knows what is...
    Thanks, helps a lot!
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    Re: Exaltolide (hard to dissolve)

    I'm not sure about what exactly I bought, "exaltolide" is all that I know...
    I try to post the URL webpage from where I order the product, but new members are not allowed to. It's a website from...
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