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    Re: Distillation of Orange Peels

    Christine was kind enough to post this diagram in an earlier thread that I started:...
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    Re: Need of advice on blending with alcohol.

    I think you can easily find them in Teflon (PTFE) which is virtually non-reactive with almost everything.
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    Re: Need of advice on blending with alcohol.

    Ahh, I hadn't thought of that. Jojoba is highly polar (more than many oils), but all the essential oils I have tried with it have blended perfectly. I haven't tried absolutes or synthetic aroma...
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    Re: Need of advice on blending with alcohol.

    I have heard that it does, but I do not know. Seems like too much work to me. If you are serious about making perfume, you may want to get a magnetic stirrer.



    This also contradicts what I...
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    Re: PK's Formulation Excel Spreadsheet

    Paul,

    I am among the upper echelon of Excel users. You should have seen some of the things we did with Excel when I was in graduate school! It's an incredibly powerful an elegant program when...
  6. Master list/table of suggested dilutions for blending?

    Hello All,

    I have heard it repeated over and over again to dilute all materials to 10% for blending experiments in the creation of a formula, but I have also heard that many...
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    Re: Need of advice on blending with alcohol.

    Jamie, I was under the impression that most will pre-dilute all materials to 10% (or less) before blending when creating a perfume. After a formula has then been established, undiluted materials may...
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    Re: Need of advice on blending with alcohol.

    Welcome Shane,

    All of the beginner info you need is in the stickies at the top of the fourm:
    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/393147-Welcome-new-at-DIY-fragrance-members!-Read-this-first

    The...
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    Re: PK's Formulation Excel Spreadsheet

    This would be very easy to do by adding a column that multiplies each value in column "C" by the value in the cell at the bottom labeled "Enter desired % strength volume of your juice->". I just did...
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    Re: PK's Formulation Excel Spreadsheet

    One more thing. I see that the way the page breaks are set up is causing it to print two blank pages (for a total of four pages). You can prevent the printing of the two extra pages by switching...
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    Re: PK's Formulation Excel Spreadsheet

    Thanks, Paul.

    A couple of things: Excel will always display a set number of decimal places. The number of decimal places is set by the cell formatting, but can be changed for an individual cell...
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    Re: making a water perfume?

    I have been trying to make facial toner and other such "bath" products with essential oils, solubilizers, and ethanol, but a funny thing happens - a solution of water and essential oils along with...
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    Re: Mad Sandalwood Experiment

    Hello Jack,

    What concentration of sandalwood did you end up with? From reviewing the thread, it looks like you were at about 2%-4%. That might not be enough. I would suggest trying again at 10%...
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    Re: Monopropylene glycol?

    Welcome back, Chris! I have missed your contributions to these forums. I hope stuff stops leaking and that we'll have you around at least semi-regularly now :)

    Cheers,

    Jon
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    Re: Dimethyl Sulphide

    Are you talking about Dimethyl Sulfoxide (DMSO), which is used in the transdermal administration of medications? If so, it is absolutely NOT safe to use in perfumery or any other consumer products. ...
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    Re: Software/spreadsheets

    Others have proposed the use of micropipettes, but I am not convinced they are suitable for two reasons - the fact that you need to dedicate a tip to each material you are blending means that you are...
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    Re: Software/spreadsheets

    Hello rauvolfioideae,

    I recommend that you check out this post on blending on Chris Bartlett's blog.

    http://pellwall-perfumes.blogspot.com/2012/06/method-for-blending.html

    There is a link...
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    Re: The Ultimate Amber game

    As a beginner, I would love to mix this up and then see where I can take it. Do you have a suggestion for a Castoreum tincture source or a susbstitute?



    Also, thanks to everyone involved in...
  19. Re: Create a Sandalwood Perfume, Win a Trip to Australia

    Thank you for your response, Julian. I have no doubt that the TFS album oil and a S. austrocaledonicum oil can be easily distinguished when smelled. I am curious as to the specific chemical cause...
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    Re: Taming Eucalyptus

    I like the result I get when mixing it with (a lot of) something containing a high about of linalool (ho wood, rosewood, basil, coriander, etc.)

    - Jon
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    Re: Using Ylang Ylang

    See this thread, especially post #18.

    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/370455-EO-dilution-is-cloudy?p=3186643&viewfull=1#post3186643

    standard methods are to (1) wait - some materials will...
  22. Re: Create a Sandalwood Perfume, Win a Trip to Australia

    I am surprised that the concentrations of beta- and alpha- santalols are so (relatively) low in this new oil from TFS, based on all the praise I have read of it here on Basenotes. Indeed,...
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    Re: Mad Sandalwood Experiment

    To my mind, a 1:1 tincture could be made by, for example, preparing a 1:3 maceration of sandalwood:ethanol, and removing and replacing the sandalwood substrate twice during the process. I am not to...
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    Re: Mad Sandalwood Experiment

    n-butane is a non-polar solvent similar to the n-hexane which is used in the creation of absolutes. The only practical differences that I am aware of are that n-butane has a higher vapor pressure,...
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    Re: Helpful transfer method for beginners

    I think this method would be a bit problematic because you will often want to add a little bit of ingredient A and then a little of B and then a little more of A again (this is a very simplistic...
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    Re: Mad Sandalwood Experiment

    I would not advise this. I would suggest starting over with a solvent that is 95% ethanol or better (Everclear 190 proof or perfumers' alcohol)



    Velvetseven, you and I are on the same page...
  27. Re: Hi Newbie here! Need your expertise on essential oil formulas for my beeswax candle project, ple

    I was going to reply to this earlier and say much the same things as George and David said, but they beat me to it. A chemical is a chemical is a chemical. There are natural and synthetic chemicals...
  28. Re: Hi Newbie here! Need your expertise on essential oil formulas for my beeswax candle project, ple

    Thanks for the correction, David. I don't know where I got the impression that 10% is typical - maybe from candlescience.com where they indicate that some of their waxes can accept 10-12% fragrance...
  29. Re: Chris Bartlett (Pell Wall) Sandalwood Blend

    Mr. P, thank you for your response and feedback. I overlooked it earlier. I am grateful to know that the current batch of Indonesian oil at WLA. Do you think that the recent Australian S. album...
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    Re: Mad Sandalwood Experiment

    I would think that a good ratio of sandalwood oil to solvent would be in the 15-25% range. At 2mL in a 50mL bottle, you are at 4%. Also, I would suggest using pure ethanol at 190 proof (95% pure)...
  31. Re: Hi Newbie here! Need your expertise on essential oil formulas for my beeswax candle project, ple

    30mL of scent in a 12oz candle is about 10% scent concentration. I believe this is in the ballpark for what most scented candles contain, so that's good. There are many kinds of wicks with...
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    Re: Help for making fabric spary

    essential oils will not mix with water. Baking soda will not help. I don't know where you got this information, but it is very wrong. If you want to mix essential oil with water, you will need to add...
  33. Re: Chris Bartlett (Pell Wall) Sandalwood Blend

    $150 per ounce is a great deal, and I want in :)

    I enjoyed your thread, Paul, where you discussed the sample you received. Did they/do they supply a GC/MS report?
  34. Re: Hi Newbie here! Need your expertise on essential oil formulas for my beeswax candle project, ple

    Hello,

    I am sorry you have not received a response to your inquiry. I think the problem is that you are asking for knowledge in a single post that can only come from years of training and a...
  35. Re: Chris Bartlett (Pell Wall) Sandalwood Blend

    Thanks, Paul. What is meant by " it will be off BN, completely"? Even at the price of a kilo, it's more than $200 per ounce. That's a bit rich for my blood. I was looking for something (natural...
  36. Re: Chris Bartlett (Pell Wall) Sandalwood Blend

    Thank you to Paul, Pears and Jamie who have helped me on this topic. I now have 4 oz. more Tamil Nadu sandalwood oil on it's way from a reputable supplier.

    I have also noticed that White Lotus...
  37. Re: Bioethanol, cosmenol, grapeseed oil....

    I recommend you purchase an ethanol product intended to be applied to the skin or consumed. Since we don't know where you are located, it is difficult to make specific suggestions. A 750 mL bottle...
  38. Re: New Santalum Album oil from Australia rec'd today WOW! It's GREAT!

    Well, that's saying quite a lot! I won't be buying at $10 per mL, but I will be watching the prices over the next few years.

    Thanks for sharing your impressions.

    Incidentally, how do you store...
  39. Re: New Santalum Album oil from Australia rec'd today WOW! It's GREAT!

    As a bit of a sandalwood fanatic, I am eager to hear your detailed impressions of the oil, Paul. Especially as it relates to currently available East Indian (Tamil Nadu), and New Caledonian oils...
  40. Re: Chris Bartlett (Pell Wall) Sandalwood Blend

    I have not been able to track down any small quantities of the Robertet santalol

    It looks like my best bet is to order more of Eden's "Sandalwood, Rare".

    Thank you, Paul, I will order a sample...
  41. Re: Chris Bartlett (Pell Wall) Sandalwood Blend

    Thank you Jamie,

    Your reply is interesting reading. I already have a small quantity of Eden's "Sandalwood Rare" along with several other "true" sandalwoods from New Caledonia, Vanuatu, Australia,...
  42. Chris Bartlett (Pell Wall) Sandalwood Blend

    Hello,

    I have read mention of Chris' sandalwood Blend as an excellent (mostly synthetic) recreation of Santalum album (SA) essential oil. Since a dab of SA oil from Tamil Nadu is still my...
  43. Re: New supplier I met here in Jakarta... WOOHOO!

    I am so sorry to hear this! Travelers' illnesses are terrible! I hope you have now been through the worst of it, and everyone is in good health.

    ~Jon
  44. Re: Confusion about citrus essential oils (cold pressed vs. distilled vs. folded vs. terpeneless vs.

    I'm not opposed to using synthetics, but I do do not want to get into individual aroma molecules just yet. I would be interested in convincing recreations of natural materials.

    I am interested,...
  45. Re: Confusion about citrus essential oils (cold pressed vs. distilled vs. folded vs. terpeneless vs.

    Thank you Chris, I feel honored to have you and other experts weighing in on my thread.

    I am well aware of the issue with begamot, which is why I didn't even bring it up. I made a soap with...
  46. Re: New supplier I met here in Jakarta... WOOHOO!

    Yes, please also bring us some of that wonderful Indonesian Santalum Album oil ;)

    I look forward to reading a full report of your adventures when you return!
  47. Re: Confusion about citrus essential oils (cold pressed vs. distilled vs. folded vs. terpeneless vs.

    Thank you, David, for your lovely response. It contains bits of information I have gleaned elsewhere, but it is very helpful to see it all in a proper context.

    Is the problem with the...
  48. Re: Confusion about citrus essential oils (cold pressed vs. distilled vs. folded vs. terpeneless vs.

    Thank you, Christine, for the fascinating process schematic and detailed explanation.

    It sounds like what you are saying is that one must trade one set of problems (prone to oxidation) in...
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    Re: Possible mixtures??

    That's quite a limited palate, but I think Ylang and Patchouli make a good combo. Labdanum and Vanilla (in a very small amount) provides the framework of a classic "amber" base - I believe that...
  50. Confusion about citrus essential oils (cold pressed vs. distilled vs. folded vs. terpeneless vs....)

    I am thoroughly confused about the citrus essential oils. I was originally trying to do some online research regarding "shelf life" of these oils. My readings indicated that "terpenes" are...
  51. Re: Strange materials from my supplier (Boswellic acid,Salivia apiana, Larrea diviricata)

    I grow both S. officinalis and S. apiana in my garden. The aroma of S. officinalis is unique among sages. It is a clear, fresh, medicinal herbal note. The aroma of S. apiana is, by comparison,...
  52. Re: Strange materials from my supplier (Boswellic acid,Salivia apiana, Larrea diviricata)

    Salvia divinorum is the species of sage that is used as a hallucinogenic drug. No other Salvia species are used this way, to my knowledge.

    The EO of Salvia apiana is strongly camphorus (moreso...
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    Re: What to add to a liquid soap to thicken it?

    To all:

    I hope that this liquid soapmaking thread is not too annoying to all you perfumers out there. I know that it's way off topic for this forum, but I hope you see some value in having...
  54. Re: Warning: stupid math question ahead regarding dilution

    Ding, ding, ding, ding! We have a winner! That's exactly correct!
  55. Re: Warning: stupid math question ahead regarding dilution

    1:1 is the same as 50%. the first is a ratio and the second is a percentage (or concentration). Ratios are helpful when blending (eg. 9:1 is one part fragrance and nine parts alcohol. This bottle...
  56. Re: Warning: stupid math question ahead regarding dilution

    or another way

    1:1 = 50% concentration
    2:1 = 33.3% concentration
    3:1 = 25% concentration
    4:1 = 20% concentration
    5:1 = 16.7% concentration.....

    9:1 = 10% concentration
  57. Re: Warning: stupid math question ahead regarding dilution

    A 1:1 dilution is one part solvent and one part solute, or 50% of each, or half-and-half (measured by weight or volume) (eg. 20 grams solvent and 20 grams solute)

    A 2:1 dilution is two parts...
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    Re: What to add to a liquid soap to thicken it?

    Hello Valerie,

    Whatever you decide to do for thickening, do it as your very last step. When your soap is thick it will be trickier to add additional stuff too it, plus you never know how adding...
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    Re: What to add to a liquid soap to thicken it?

    I have not used salt myself because of the many problems associated with it. Using a polysaccharide gum is fool-proof. From what I understand, the salt method is very touchy - too little salt will...
  60. Re: starting out with EO extractions (reposted)

    It was a still that I built myself from large (2 Litre) Erlenmeyer flasks (one for producing steam and one for holding the botanical materials), silicone stoppers, copper tubing, insulators, a 30cm...
  61. Re: starting out with EO extractions (reposted)

    I've already explained the limitations of doing this at home. Specifically, that you are unlikely to yield much EO from a home still and you are unlikely to be able to produce a quality EO from a...
  62. Re: starting out with EO extractions (reposted)

    I can share my experience with you. I set up a still and attempted to distill my own oils from herbs that I grew myself. After much expense and labor I was only able to extract a few mL of oil from...
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    Re: What to add to a liquid soap to thicken it?

    I can answer this!

    Salt will only thicken primarily olive oil based recipes, I think. If you have a lot of coconut oil or another oil in your recipe, it might not work.

    "Natural" soapers tend...
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    Re: Having newbie fun, nose devolping

    = Copaiba balsam
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    Re: Diluting Tobacco Absolute

    I would suggest you get to know know your tobacco first before adding anything to it, as it's an expensive material. Try it in different dilutions - on a test strip and on the skin (in a very dilute...
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    Re: Help going broke...substitutions ?

    Hello,

    I've read many of your posts on this thread and on others, and I'd like to offer you a bit of advice from one "newbie" to another. First, many of the folks on this board are professional...
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    Re: Diluting Tobacco Absolute

    Absolutes come in different strengths. Some don't need to be diluted at all. Some should be diluted 100:1 (1%). You might start at 10:1 (10%) and see how it goes. I understand that tobacco is...
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    Re: Sichuan Pepper CO2

    Don't know if this will be any help to you, but Liberty Natural carries a Zanthoxylum armatum EO (aka Prickly Ash or Sichuan Pepper), but I know of no source for CO2.

    ~Jon
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    Re: Cheap Pimento racemosa (bay rum)

    Monsterman,

    It's not my intent to knock Camden-Grey's product. I just don't have any other experience with Bay Rum oil - it was the first bottle I purchased, and it was on sale from their already...
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    Re: Cheap Pimento racemosa (bay rum)

    I've got an ounce bottle from Camden-Grey. Their price is super cheap. I'm not sure there is a price cheaper, but the following vendors carry it:

    Mountain Rose Herbs (no min. order)
    Eden...
  71. Re: Please give me feedback/suggestions on this formula for my "personal scent" Thank you!

    Thank you all for your excellent suggestions! I have an inexpensive scale and calibrations weights on order.

    Thank you to DrSmellThis for the clarification on frankincense. I get it now.

    A...
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    Re: Starter Cologne

    I'm a little lost too! I thought you were supposed to blend all the essential oils together first and then add the alcohol, but I have been getting different advice on here: "dilute essential oils...
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    Re: Starter Cologne

    Have you seen this thread on "classic" cologne formulas:
    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/372645-Eau-de-Cologne-formulas

    The formulas in that thread are along the lines of the original cologne...
  74. Re: Please give me feedback/suggestions on this formula for my "personal scent" Thank you!

    Were they the eBay scales she was recommending in this thread?
    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/388875-Favorite-quot-won-t-break-the-bank-quot-scale
  75. Re: Please give me feedback/suggestions on this formula for my "personal scent" Thank you!

    Ah, the scales I saw advertized were "100 x 0.01g". I read this as a "1g" capacity. I think what was meant was 100g capacity and 0.01g precision. This makes more sense to me. A 100g capacity...
  76. Re: Please give me feedback/suggestions on this formula for my "personal scent" Thank you!

    Thanks Paul,

    The vetiver is a Sri Lankan vetiver, and it is very dark (in color) and smoky. After sitting for about two weeks, it's the vetiver smokiness (like a campfire) that jumps out at me. ...
  77. Re: Please give me feedback/suggestions on this formula for my "personal scent" Thank you!

    Thanks, Bill. There's a lot to respond to here. Thanks!



    The Essential Oil Company of Portland, OR has "Synthetic Civet Oil" available. Any recommendations as to type of musk/ambergris to...
  78. Re: Please give me feedback/suggestions on this formula for my "personal scent" Thank you!

    Thank you all so much for the wonderful advice and feedback!





    Thank you both. I will look into a suitable scale.
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    Re: Starter Cologne

    Hello,

    I'm new here too, so please take what I say with a grain of salt. Are all of the oils you have *really* essential oils (EOs)? There is no such thing as Vanilla EO, as far as I know. Be...
  80. Please give me feedback/suggestions on this formula for my "personal scent" Thank you!

    Hello all,

    I am a novice and I was fooling around with my essential oil samples, trying to come up with something that I would like to wear as a "homemade perfume". I like green, woody, incense,...
  81. Re: Advice sought on natural "Amber" blend for a container candle

    Duly noted; I will stay away from any absolutes advertised as containing ethanol. A note on the high-vanillin vanilla CO2: the supplier website states "soluble in fixed oils", so perhaps there are...
  82. Re: Advice sought on natural "Amber" blend for a container candle

    Thanks, mumsy. As I recall, I had a pretty hard time blending the Benzoin absolute into the FCO. I crushed up the absolute into a powder and tried to mix it into hot FCO, but it just congealed into...
  83. Re: Advice sought on natural "Amber" blend for a container candle

    Thanks everyone for the very helpful suggestions thus far!



    That's an interesting suggestion. I have some Patchouli CO2 that I kinda' like, but have not liked it in any blends yet. I have a...
  84. Advice sought on natural "Amber" blend for a container candle

    Hello Folks,

    Christmas 2013 I made beeswax/fractionated coconut oil container candles for a few friends. I wanted an "Amber" scent that would blend well with the natural aroma of the unfiltered...
  85. Re: Fragrance recomendations for a teenager girl

    Well, I am no longer a teenage boy, but I once was, and I can remember what that was like. Here is my take on your problem. When I was a teenage boy, I didn't know how to appreciate a sophisticated...
  86. Just starting out - Mysore Sandalwood Advice requested

    I have been reading these forums and decided I finally need to register to ask some specific advice.

    I have been making my own bath and cosmetic products for a little over a year now, and I am...
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