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  1. Re: Uh oh.. Massive fragrance changes in 2021/2022. (opoponax, jasmine, ylang ylang)..

    They will be, give it a year or two. ;)
  2. Re: Uh oh.. Massive fragrance changes in 2021/2022. (opoponax, jasmine, ylang ylang)..

    In 2014, Frederic Malle predicted the demise of high end perfumery if something like this were to happen; he said that he would be "finished." Then he sold his line to Lauder, as if to prove the...
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    Re: Dating Vintage Je reviens by Worth

    You're very welcome. :)
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    Re: Dating Vintage Je reviens by Worth

    There was a parfum de toilette in the 70s, but I don't know the specific production years.
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    Re: House Affinity/Aversion

    Guerlain has been my fragrantic "soul mate" from the outset. I don't have an aversion to any house, though Chanel has lost its lustre with recent reformulations.
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    Re: Ebay now charging sales tax

    Man, that tax is STEEP! I realize it's based on the buyer's location and not some arbitrary figure from eBay, but it's still shocking to see the actual cost of an item (especially vintage) when all...
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    Re: Millenials are changing the perfume business

    I thought this was a strange statement for a perfumer of 34 years' experience to make: "A person is born liking one specific scent family and that preference rarely changes, says Mr Delforge, whose...
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    Re: Interview Fragrance Advice

    Same here.
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    Re: Can you find the hidden unicorn?

    I don't find myself drooling over this collection, despite the unicorn - those gems don't look like they've been given the respect they deserve, I'll bet half of them have gone off.
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    Re: Mitsouko Centenary

    Fellous doesn't discuss materials or shortages, she just says that Jacques Guerlain began working on Mitsouko during WWI, finally presenting it in 1919, when he was satisfied that he'd created a...
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    Re: Mitsouko Centenary

    Yes. Collette Fellous makes this point in her beautiful book, Guerlain (1989), where she says:


    "In the history of perfumery, Mitsouko is indeed exemplary because its formula is short,...
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    Re: Best of the Decade

    Papillon Bengale Rouge and Dryad would be right up there at the close of this decade, but there are so many to name over the whole 10 years that my mind goes blank.
  13. Re: What is your worst used fragrance purchase experience?

    Starblind, I remember that! It sounds like you did get your money back finally (after a pitched battle), but what a nightmare.
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    Re: Option to 'hide' threads?

    Some of the forums I belong to allow members to select only the threads and subforums they wish to see (via the Options panel in Account Settings), and it's great. That feature might require newer...
  15. Thread: Gone off?

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    Re: Gone off?

    I'm not a Chanel bottle expert, but I think that the small "c" in the Chanel name on the bottom of the bottle would be enough to cause Chanel to destroy the entire run, if such a mistake had occurred...
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    Re: A Tribute for deceased members.

    I don't think I've ever come across her blog...if I had, I know I'd have bookmarked it. Thank you for posting about it, I've just now read a few of her entries and they're marvelous.
  17. Re: Vintage perfumes - question for the experts, what to keep ?

    I would certainly keep the Diors.
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    Re: The NonBlonde :-(

    Oh, what sad news. Our community has lost a great light.
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    Re: Article: Barneys explores bankruptcy filing

    That line really stuck out to me, too...what a strange thing to have to say as a closing gambit.
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    Re: Does vintage and artisanal spoil you?

    Yes, absolutely. A well-preserved vintage is a revelation. Of modern houses, I think Papillon come very close to offering the richness and depth characteristic of vintage perfumes.
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    Re: How has Malle Fared, Post-Lauder?

    I don't exactly get a mentholated note in the base, though my brain might have labeled it differently...whatever it is, I don't like it. To me, the drydown is a big generic disappointment, and I...
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    Poll: Re: A dilemma on what to do with fakes...

    After wrapping the bottle in a pillowcase or large handkerchief for your safety, smash it to smithereens with a hammer and use the shards as a decorative base for aquatic plants or false flowers.
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    Poll: Re: A dilemma on what to do with fakes...

    I would dispose of the fake bottle at your city's recycling center (or drive to a location that has such a center, if yours doesn't). That way, the bottle wouldn't go into a landfill or fall into the...
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    Re: How has Malle Fared, Post-Lauder?

    I wonder why it's so hard to find original matte cap bottles - you'd think there'd be plenty around, since Malle hasn't been around for that long..
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    Re: How has Malle Fared, Post-Lauder?

    It is sounding more and more like it would be worthwhile to track down the originals with the matte caps. Malle, himself, must surely be distressed about the changes...though I doubt we'll ever hear...
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    Re: How has Malle Fared, Post-Lauder?

    Thank you, papillo. The fact that a little still goes a long way offsets their cost somewhat. I bought my Carnal Flower and PoaL around the time of the acquisition, so I don't know if they were old...
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    Re: How has Malle Fared, Post-Lauder?

    Thank you for that input - I have never smelled either of them, and was especially curious about Iris Poudre because I love iris.
  28. Re: Fragrance Industry Secret Revealed.. is it true?

    Chanel's Les Exclusifs EDTs were so distinctive, just superb...I wish they'd been allowed to live alongside the EDPs, but I suspect the differences would have been too evident.
  29. Re: Fragrance Industry Secret Revealed.. is it true?

    Frederic Malle's website FAQ states outright that concentration amounts have never been officially designated, and that nowadays the labels EDP, EDT and extrait are used as market positioning devices...
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    Re: How has Malle Fared, Post-Lauder?

    I'm really glad to hear that Lauder didn't cheapen them, I was really afraid of that because the current versions of Azurée, Cinnabar and Youth Dew smell very different than vintage bottles (with the...
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    Re: How has Malle Fared, Post-Lauder?

    Thank you for your views, rum. It's a relief to hear that MR, French Lover and PoaL are still good, and in fact that you find PoaL better now than it used to be. My PoaL was purchased around the time...
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    Re: How has Malle Fared, Post-Lauder?

    rum, which ones do you think have suffered? Are Iris Poudre, PoaL and Une Fleur de Cassie among them? I'd heard that PoaL was changed for the worse before the Lauder acquisition, but that many people...
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    Re: How has Malle Fared, Post-Lauder?

    Wow, donna255! That is amazing and encouraging. Lauder clearly has not been bad for Malle, as so many of us (myself included) feared it would be.
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    Re: How has Malle Fared, Post-Lauder?

    I am relieved to hear that. Barney's closeout sale made me wonder if Malle was still worth the high pricepoint, even on discounted items.
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    Re: How has Malle Fared, Post-Lauder?

    I'm really glad to hear that you think the line is doing well, cacio and hednic.

    Diamondflame, just saw your reply - your points are well taken.
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    How has Malle Fared, Post-Lauder?

    It's been five years since Lauder acquired Editions de Parfum Frederic Malle. Is there a consensus as to how this line has fared under new management? I'm wondering what Basenoters have observed,...
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    Re: Different versions of Mitsouko

    The color of your Mitsouko is perfect. You have a grand bottle there.
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    Re: Different versions of Mitsouko

    Ponyboi, that is gorgeous.
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    Re: Different versions of Mitsouko

    Shalimar would indeed be a nice itch to scratch next. :) Good thing you opted for the smaller size of Mitsouko, as it does have an unusual combination of notes and qualities.
  40. Re: looking for the best masculine chocolate fragrance

    Yes! I just came here to recommend Borneo 1834, which I think will tick all of Robin's boxes.
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    Re: back-ups storage question

    I'm showing my age, because I forget where I put things if they're not where I can see them! :D So I just like to keep all of my bottles together. But from the standpoint of protecting your perfumes...
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    Re: back-ups storage question

    From the standpoint of your perfumes, either storage option would be fine - but it might be more convenient for you to store them at eye level on the cupboard shelf (assuming it has doors).
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    Re: Article: Barneys explores bankruptcy filing

    Those closeout prices certainly are high...wonder how that's been going for them. I'm pretty surprised.
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    Re: back-ups storage question

    I store mine in their original boxes, cellophane (if any) intact, alongside my current bottles in a closed wooden cabinet, at room temperature. I have not found heat to be much threat to perfume, but...
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    Re: Norma Kamali Incense Perfume

    I have many decades-old perfumes that smell wonderful, and wouldn't knowingly buy anything that had started to revert to its base. "Going off" is not the same thing as losing topnotes; the latter...
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    Re: Different versions of Mitsouko

    Like N.CAL Fragrance Reviewer, I decant splash bottles into glass atomizers and spray my perfumes. I decant 10ml at a time and store both the original splash bottle and the decant in a closed perfume...
  47. Re: Please help in identifying two women's perfumes

    The cap is close, but Duff's With Love has a woven-type metal collar and the bottle's facets are not quite the same shape. Here's a link to a picture in the BN directory:...
  48. Re: Please help in identifying two women's perfumes

    Thanks for those comparison photos, Gozen. I'm stumped!
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    Re: My fragrance experience yesterday

    What a great surprise - helpful SAs, generous samples, a surprisingly nice break from meetings!
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    Re: future vintages

    The strict regulation of ingredients is an experiment of sorts, but that's probably exactly how things will pan out.
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    Re: Tabac Rouge.......Damn This Is Good Stuff

    I've recommended Tabac Rouge so often that I'm almost embarrassed to comment, but yes, it is just wonderful...great any time, but around the holidays it's extra special.
  52. Re: Please help in identifying two women's perfumes

    That's what I'm thinking...a substitution.
  53. Re: Please help in identifying two women's perfumes

    Looks like Avon Facets, but the cap is wrong - Zealot Crusader, are you seeing this?
  54. Thread: RIP Barneys

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    Re: RIP Barneys

    Thanks! I absolutely love it.
  55. Thread: RIP Barneys

    by Bonnette
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    Re: RIP Barneys

    My only fragrance from Barney's was bought online, a Lutens bell jar of Borneo 1834. It arrived with a large makeup bag filled with wonderful beauty products - I was very surprised and impressed....
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    Re: Best performance Vintages

    Chanel No. 5 cologne from the 1970s.
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    Re: Got my Knize ten and knize ten golden

    I like both versions of Knize Ten, and the notes in each one are basically the same - but they've been juggled around and rebalanced, so that the Golden Edition is slightly softer and a tad more...
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    Re: 100 Fragrance Milestone

    The ones you get rid of are the ones you'll long for later - seems to be a law of life for collectors of anything.
  59. Re: How many people do you encounter during your day that are wearing a fragrance? (best guess)

    Maybe it's a western state thing - it's very inhibiting, whatever the reason.


    Exactly. It doesn't seem to be a rural issue, either, as I've almost never smelled perfume anywhere in the state -...
  60. Re: How many people do you encounter during your day that are wearing a fragrance? (best guess)

    Almost none. It's quite a surprise to encounter someone wearing perfume where I live - I'd say maybe 2%, and that number would include me.
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    Re: Are you kidding me?

    Wow, that's chutzpah.
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    Re: I suck at blind buys

    Agree completely with this. I've had great luck with blind buys in the past, but disappointing reformulations have pretty much cured me of blind buying current fragrances.
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    Re: Does your partner understand your addiction?

    My husband is completely onboard with my fervor for perfume.
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    Re: Bengale Rouge (Papillon)

    Wouldn't that be delicious? I remember an early interview she did with Kafkaesque, in which she said how hard it was to get oakmoss down to an acceptable percentage in her earliest formulations -...
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    Re: share your method of application

    I know it must seem weird, but I don't want my perfume to project very far...I wear just enough for me (and anyone who might be close) to enjoy wafts of it throughout the day.
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    Re: share your method of application

    One spray on each forearm, repeated in 6-8 hours if necessary.
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    Re: back-ups , which and how many

    1. Secret of Venus perfume oil (Weil)

    2. Dryad (Papillon) EDP

    3. Vintage Je Reviens, Habanita and Joy from different periods, in various concentrations

    4. Almost everything that I really...
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    Re: Hello everyone!

    A warm welcome to Basenotes, lilioka!
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    Re: Thoughts on vintage Poison?

    Agree completely with this. I would say that the years between 1985 (its introduction) and 1995 were the best. Even today, its bones are still there, though longevity has been affected. You should do...
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    Re: Do smokers perceive scents differently?

    I was at one time a heavy smoker, but perfumes smelled the same to me then as they do now. Familiar scents of all kinds (not just perfume) smell more intense to me as a non-smoker, but not different...
  71. Re: Reformulations....... are they always a "less than" vintage?

    1) 20-25 years, minimum

    2) No

    3) eBay or Etsy - never Amazon for vintage

    4) and 5) The questions are too general - lists would be endless (owing to individual tastes)
  72. Re: And it happened - asked not to wear perfume to work

    You are absolutely right, I conflated the two experiences. Thank you!
  73. Re: And it happened - asked not to wear perfume to work

    I don't understand why the same person(s) who complain about intermittent exposure your perfume, have no problem with scented candles infusing the entire workplace. I would certainly raise that issue...
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    Re: Why has my post count gone down - again?

    I've lost 30 or more posts, not a big deal in itself, but clearly related to the larger issue.
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    Re: Bengale Rouge (Papillon)

    Yes, that's how it feels to me, too. I've worn it all week and haven't tired of it.
  76. Re: What fragrances remind you of Christmas/Winter?

    Tabac Rouge (Phaedon)
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    Re: New Coromandel perfume?

    It's hard to imagine a modern parfum formulation that smells better than, or as good as, the discontinued EDT. If I were in the market for Coromandel, that's what I'd be looking for.
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    Re: Do you buy empty bottles and boxes?

    No, I collect only for the perfume.
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    Re: Bengale Rouge (Papillon)

    Dryad is so beautiful. To me, Papillon fragrances are the epitome of elegance plus approachability.
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    Re: Vintage Bal a Versailles Parfum

    Agree, vintage BaV is wonderful. I have a 1970s bottle that I seldom use, it smells so good that I don't want to get down to the last ml.
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    Re: Bengale Rouge (Papillon)

    My pleasure!
  82. Re: What time period do you consider "The Golden Age" of Fragrances?

    Any time from the 1920s through the 1980s, with a heavy emphasis on the 1930s through 1985.
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    Re: Guerlain Observations

    Oh, what a great 2nd honeymoon experience! I can just imagine how fun that was.
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    Re: Bengale Rouge (Papillon)

    Same here, jarahclinic. It's often overlooked in discussions of good rose perfumes, yet it's one of the best IMO. Welcome to Basenotes!
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    Re: Bengale Rouge (Papillon)

    I don't get Shalimar from it (haven't smelled Emeraude in so long that I can't comment on that one). I'd say Bengale Rouge is of old-school vintage quality, and in that respect it might be considered...
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    Re: Bengale Rouge (Papillon)

    Starblind, maybe get a sample from Luckyscent. I think you'd like this fragrance.
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    Re: Random observation

    The best tool in this case is your nose. Glad your experiment yielded a good result.
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    Re: Bengale Rouge (Papillon)

    Papillon is one of my favorite houses. Liz Moores' offerings are all so different that it's hard to rank them, but probably Dryad and Bengale Rouge are the top two for me (as they are for several...
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    Re: Bengale Rouge (Papillon)

    I love it too! No worries about selling your vintage Vol de Nuit, since you've got Dryad!
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    Re: Bengale Rouge (Papillon)

    Do you like it? To me, one of the best things about Dryad is that it smells like vintage Vol de Nuit would have smelled when it was first bottled. Vol de Nuit does not age well, as a rule, but Dryad...
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    Re: Bengale Rouge (Papillon)

    Yes, it is absolutely of that type and calibre.
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    Re: Bengale Rouge (Papillon)

    Yes, it's the first current perfume I've bought in years - probably since Ms. Moores' last one, in fact (Dryad). Anything from Papillon is blind-buy-worthy, IMO.
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    Bengale Rouge (Papillon)

    Today the postman delivered Papillon's new scent, Bengale Rouge, which I preordered from Luckyscent in July. It's been about an hour since first spritz, and it is heaven. I'll write a review after...
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    Re: Looking back....

    Of modern perfumes, probably Chanel Les Exclusifs EDTs and extraits.
  95. Re: Midnight in Paris? Wasn't worth the hype for me at all!

    I have the EDP, and while I think it's a lovely fragrance with good longevity and sillage, the best thing about it is the bottle. It's not something that springs readily to mind when I'm choosing a...
  96. Re: Vintage geek opinions about bottle age and sweet spot, please.

    I haven't bought anything in quite awhile, as my collection feels complete...but I have a cabinet full of gorgeous vintage perfumes whose quality is a testament to the value of research. If you know...
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    Re: What perfume lifts your spirits?

    I find soft vintage white flower blends very soothing.
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    Re: Sillage and Longevity

    ^ ^
    Agree with this. The era of powerhouses is pretty much over.
  99. Thread: Dark

    by Bonnette
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    Re: Dark

    Well..."dark" can mean gothic, in which case an incense like Avignon (CdG) might fill the bill, or "dark" might refer to the underworld, where Anubis reigns. Or it might mean heavy seduction, a la...
  100. Re: My positive experience at Atelier Hudson Yards

    It's nice to hear about a great experience like this! Sounds like a lovely store and line, and then to encounter a knowledgeable SA as well...wow!
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