Many thanks David, I have been interested by this molecule lately.
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Many thanks David, I have been interested by this molecule lately.
So far so good. I have only had that happen with a non-beeswax formula in one type of sprayer.
The dissolved wax is annoyingly persistent after repeated chilling and filtering.
But once I dilute the tincture in my final product it remains soluble
(depending on its proportion and the alcohol...
Light-coloured ambergris beside a rotting whale would be coincidental anyway.
Ambergis is dark and offensive when fresh and it takes years at sea to mature
and reach the quality useful for...
How about using it for potpourri to scent the room? I have considered using it for candles.
I know the smell that you are referring to. Could it be the added iodine salts (potassium iodate?)
or iodine from its decomposition? In pure form iodine has a strong halogen, bleach-like smell.
If you mean make it twice as concentrated but use half as much (1 spray instead of 2 sprays), then in my experiments it
made a difference to the longevity. Spray both onto a test medium at the same...
Antique dolls were made from celluloid, if that's what you mean. Its smell comes from the camphor vapourising.
It is the most 'vintage' smelling plastic to me.
Sharpness to me means strongly contrasting notes. Decrease the contrast by adding blending notes
that tie two or more sharp notes together, or add a little fixative to bring them all down.
Most people have smelled it, some just don't know it yet. :)
Valerian root EO has a powerful relaxing effect on me, so powerful that I am cautious to use it.
I discovered it accidentally after smelling it from the bottle before bed. I woke up in the middle...
Sure, and generally speaking if you lower its diffusivity (via carrier type, dilution level, temperature)
you increase longevity. It's not to say a molecule can't have both, it's that the quicker a...
In my understanding and trials, longevity is the opposite of sillage for a given fragrance.
e.g. I took my fragrance concentrate, diluted some to say 20% and 10%
and put these in identical spray...
Well, Fragrantica sometimes shows tree resin when they mean whale secretion
so I don't trust their note selection. However if there are a lot of votes for cedar then
obviously the voters are...
I have some valerian root EO which has such an earthy lingering note that I wonder
if some geosmin was captured in the process. If it is geosmin then perhaps it
can be used at extremely low levels...
If your complaint is too little projection and too much longevity, EDP dilution
would make it more so.
Try one spray of the product versus two sprays diluted 1:1 with alcohol
and observe which...
I'm not sure it could smell worse if it did!
Some fragrances are improved e.g. increasing performance.
If the driving force behind the reformulation is not
improvement but cost cutting and crippling restrictions,
then it's far less likely...
Rasasi Amber Ood comes well recommended. You only need the smallest amount
to last over 12 hours and it doesn't change much.
I mostly know the scent in an grown up context. It reminds me
of masseuses and for this reason it is an exciting scent and
I'd like to try it as a note in some fragrances. I wonder if I can...
It sounds unusual like maybe they had an accident where fragrance was spilled.
I use ethanol with a tiny amount of odourless denaturant.
Are you sure it's not the 'fresh Chinese plastic' smell being released by the plastic,
like the smell that fills Dollar Stores? Heat and ventilation will help, whatever the
contaminant may be. I...
Thank you all for your input. Impressive number of notes David Ruskin. Lots to keep me busy.
If it's true about hundreds of ingredients Accolon, then it may be easier for my purposes
to vacuum off...
I can't quite put my finger on the notes in Johnson & Johnson's classic baby oil
to try and create an accord. For some reason I find this scent difficult to break apart.
So far I've only got...
The often common element with FO's is the unknown. Avoid them if you have ambitions
of selling fragrances.
We have taro available in New Zealand. Never tried it, it's popular with the Pacific Islanders though.
I would not know what to do with it.
Napalm, especially in the morning. :D
For a gentle natured Thai addition, try pandan leaf (although I haven't experienced the EO)
I don't know the fragrance in question but it's more likely they mean 12% of the perfume concentrate
and not 12% of the product (which is what IFRA is concerned with)
Something that works on the cold receptors?
"In addition to menthol and AG-3-5, a number of cooling agents, including Cool-actP,
Cooling Agent 10, FrescolatMGA, FrescolatML, geraniol,...
I love beeswax absolute and it works with so many things (including a formula with peppermint).
I agree it's nice with with woods (incl. cedar) and florals, also with resins, amber (real and accord)...
:thumbup: plus it's a mature scent.
Would that be the Chinese incense cedar? I don't get much smoke from Chinese weeping cedar EO.
Not to be confused with ethyl acetate which is acetone-free nail polish remover
and possibly a solvent in some paints and household products. This one is
also supposed to smell fruity but I find it...
You can add jojoba oil to an ethanol fragrance if you want to achieve
a floating layer / droplets of jojoba on top of your fragrance.
Question why you want the ingredient in there, and find out...
Sometimes the worst BO smelling men (with average looks) have great success in attracting women
but other men can't stand within 3 feet of them. So I think the repulsion factor of bad smells is...
Oh dear, is a cold remedy the suspected cause? http://www.basenotes.net/threads/381786-Zinc-in-the-life-and-smelling-of-a-Perfumer
If I were you, I would buy an old shrimpin' boat with the money, find a legless first mate,
and go trawling for ambergris in the Great Pacific Garbage Patch.
I played a fun game when a package arrived with several essential oils in identical bottles.
They were all sealed and I wondered if there were enough molecules that had made it
past the seals to...
I've been planning my worst blend for months and hope to start mixing soon. I hope
it doesn't turn out nice like yours Mumsy.
One of my worst was a gunpowder accord which smelled interesting in...
Hmm, I made a tincture using the complete chopped pods and to me it smells too much
like the skin of the pods, but that completeness might be just what you're after.
What I'm referring to is not a note but an effect on the fragrance: like you described
as a feeling rather than a note in your original question (and it does make sense)
I haven't had the four to...
When I first experienced ambergris I thought of it as adding sparkle but I didn't know
if it was the right word. Later after reading articles and books I noticed the word sparkle
came up a few...
I love the smell of Western Red Cedar wood. I've incorporated it into custom
fragrance containers. I haven't had the pleasure of smelling the EO.
To me, part of Knize Ten smells like laundry powder and the chemical in a Porta-Loo
That's why I say the height of popularity: it is no longer the predominant form,
it is not the biggest seller.
Edshepp, yes that is a way to to cater to modern expectations of dynamic range. ...
It's true that old natural fragrances have fallen from the height of popularity but the same
can be said of classical music. But to conclude that Beethoven's symphonies are ghastly
All natural ingredients or all-natural ingredients? :confused:
I built my most favourite fragrance around patchouli as the highest % ingredient. It is blended in a way
that it loses the...
Yes I did something similar and I found that even the smallest amount of
patchouli in the formula didn't fit in well. On the hand, real distilled amber EO
is a great resinous addition.
Speak of the devil, I had a migraine for hours today. The one thing that sometimes helps
is inhaling peppermint EO so when I had a chance I put 3 drops on a tissue and inhaled
and now it's...
Highly entertaining read. Pity about the rotten notes occurring despite the storage conditions.
Ah yes, I dislike the smell of cheap laundry musk in costly fragrances.
Also some aldehyde(s)? which smell like stale unwashed soap on the skin.
In all seriousness I get that in the mornings when I have to be up extra early.
Just opening the fridge is stomach turning, it all smells too rich and intense in
those mornings. The morning...
Noticing the effects 1 minute after ingestion seems extraordinarily quick for a pharmaceutical.
Too quick to be incorporated into intracellular mechanisms, so maybe it acts as a neurotransmitter?...
It sounds like you have two issues:
1) The skin reaction
2) The hayfever-like symptoms (colloquially called allergies)
In my experience, spraying on clothes does not address the hayfever...
The One: its longevity must have been 'fixed' because one spray on each wrist
in the morning can be smelled at arm's length after a work day.
The major fragrance components of ambergris are solid. Tinctures usually contain a few % of these.
There you go, why would an ambergris absolute be liquid? If it were an absolute
dissolved in alcohol it should have been sold as a tincture with a % figure.
The more sensible pheromone fragrances advise you to spray on clothes not skin, and they
smell very pleasant. Others are roll-on for skin use and they quickly turn into a strong sweaty smell.
What kind of mint? I like peppermint but dislike spearmint in anything but gum
because of its association with gum. The two are very different chemically.
I dislike powdery notes if they are too...
After a couple of months I have returned to the tincture I made from burnt powder residue.
It looks and smells something like rum in the bottle and there are very small crystals visible
Thanks for this insightful post, it is the discontinuation of this fragrance that really
motivated me into perfuming. It's ironic if it was a little too expensive to produce
and now it's sold for...
Surprising to see those aromatic hydrocarbons and not surprising that they add a gasoline note
even in low concentration.
It makes me think of Mugatu and his Derelicte collection. It would fit right in. :laugh:
Whale vomit is worthless. The valuable stuff is understood now to be an intestinal secretion
so it's pooped out but it's not poop. Its usefulness comes from very specific chemicals
which make up...
So far nothing I've smelled makes me picture pure black. Then I realised, black is the abscence of smell.
I don't really get light blue from Light Blue.
I will quickly agree with mixing in the same order for the most accurate re-creation. Or mixing as quickly
as possible to negate the effects of order, if you only have a few ingredients.
If the fragrance is intended to be controversial or has a reputation for being skanky
then I want to experience those things. Sometimes I am disappointed when these
turn out to be pleasant.
For example two bottles of 99.9% ethanol from the same supplier but presumably different batches.
I can smell them apart in a second because the one is clearly offensive and the other smells clean....
Apparently the leather fragrance to compare to is Knize Ten. I really hope there are better leathers than this,
but it has a dryness and dirtyness that might interest you; almost a cat-pee phase in...
It's easy to go above the recommended eugenol limit with bay oil.
The safety of 25% strength...
This is an interesting one. The traces on the outside of the sealed bottle gave the renowned old sweat impression,
like well-used running shoes or a locker room. This is the effect in low...
A solution of the beeswax absolute I made is nice and complex enough as a single note fragrance.
I have worn it as a fragrance and I apply many single notes to evaluate the skin drydown.
Unless your vodka is over 96% alcohol (and I'm 99% sure it isn't) you should not be adding spring water.
It's well worth paying the bit extra for suitable alcohol. I have experimented with adding...
$838 can get you about two bottles of D&G By! ;)
The final volume will be close enough to the sum of the component's volumes for your purposes.
Could they really? I thought volatility depends on fixed physical properties like boiling point and vapour pressure.
Then how about starting with a ylang-ylang extract? I can imagine it being jasmine-like with some modification.
See how many sprays of x-fragrance you can wear before you get a complaint.
I suggest Joop! as a candidate.
It smells like the result of a Nigerian scammer wearing Lacoste who has been processed
by a crocodile's digestive tract, passed out and heavily diluted in river water.
Possibly completely water...
Only if you like the smell of diesel (the petroleum product, not the fragrance)
"Lagos" essential EDT
It seems to be the case with all the different characteristics and ages of natural ambergris.
To avoid disappointment I highly recommend expertly selected and aged tinctures.
Ambergris tincture when applied by itself is ethereal, intriguing, unmistakably animalic and marine.
Smelling from the bottle only gives a hint of this. When you combine it with fragrances you...
PK have you used the tincture in a fragrance or applied some over a fragrance on the skin?
This is where the magic happens. It could be one of those things that smells stronger in dilution,
Note that there are other fragrant floating materials that melt/smoke with a hot needle
for example tree amber and surfboard wax.
Also be careful because I read about dangerous dumped materials...
Ha yes PK it was meant for the other thread.
- wrong thread -
Be sure that it hasn't become hydrated from humidity. Heating will dehydrate it.
If Sir Sean Connery, who uses Jicky, does not fit the definition of a man then I don't know who does.
Read a lot of reviews and you see the mixed opinions about a fragrance's classification:...
What for, riot control? ;)
I don't use more than 3 sprays of anything. If I need to extend the longevity
I apply one of the sprays on clothes.
Its hardness and reaction to heat make me think pumice but it doesn't look porous enough.
Yes, real sandalwood is almost universally regarded as 'creamy'. Sexy is more subjective but sandalwood is sexy too.
I think I have found where all this alcohol + water + oil misinformation comes from:
How would this ever work?
The "single note exploration" forum could be confusing with naturals as single notes
and some of their constituents as single notes. Terminology, so important.
I don't have much experience with aromachemicals, mainly naturals and some inorganic chemistry.
To me it is not fresh blood but completely dried blood that gives the wet iron smell when contacted by...
I was not disagreeing with your metaphor, it reminded me of one for a different aspect.
Another one I like is to think of accords as chords because they are built from
single notes. But not...
My first thought about wet iron was that strong smell when you wash off blood. I'm not saying to tincture haemoglobin
but there are many soluble complexes formed by iron.
The flute is one of the most pure tone producing instruments. In that regard it's more like a single aromachemical.
String instruments with a lot of overtones are more like the natural counterpart,...
I expect some musks would give something similar. I have some of the dry-distilled amber, it has quite
a different character but in my test it seems to be smoothed and enhanced by the lanolin. Quite...