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    Re: What are you wearing today?

    Sounds awesome!
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    Re: Agarwood oil thread.

    Looks fabulous!
    Easy to be jealous of that array :)
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    Re: Agarwood oil thread.

    The last thing I tried and liked was Red Musk,
    It is a smokey, ambery, musky aroma, one that is densely woven and very warm.
    I get an overarching Indian herbal quality to it which makes me think of...
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    Re: Agarwood oil thread.

    Aloes of Ish has nice blends.
    If you're speaking of the ouds, I've tried a couple, they are low grade and of questionable purity.
    On the plus side, communication from Aloes of Ish is excellent,...
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    Re: Agarwood oil thread.

    Yes, I've been stiffed a couple of times.
    One vendor actually argued the point to the death and insisted since he'd used a ruler to measure what he had sent, that he must be right.
    It was rather...
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    Re: Agarwood oil thread.

    Could you elaborate on the effect a speck of dead skin can have on oud oil over time?



    I'd welcome any education if you are offering it.
    When you say pumparounds are you referring to...
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    Re: Agarwood oil thread.

    That is a completely ridiculous suggestion!
    by definition a sample is 'A small part or quantity intended to show what the whole is like'.
    In pefumery, unless specifically stated otherwise, the...
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    Re: Ethically 'Harvested' Deer Musk

    Fair point,
    let us say a natural diet then.
    to quote the one research papaer linked to :
    "
    Animals were fed a diet of leaves collected from the natural habitat and supplemented by artificial food...
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    Re: What are you wearing today?

    Great idea.
    I've been wearing Rose 31 the past couple of years for Easter,
    maybe I'll go bolder with some APLS,
    or I could stick to traditions and perhaps deepen Rose 31 with an oud ;)
    or go old...
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    Re: Mixing and measuring

    Purchase a jewelry scale something along the 200g x0.01g line
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    Re: What are you wearing today?

    Sulawesi by Oudimentary
  12. Thread: New home

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    Sticky: Re: New home

    It does, thanks!
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    Re: Agarwood oil thread.

    Actually my question was which is the oud listed between the Green Papua and Dark Papua, it seems to be another UNS, but I can't make out the writing?

    Regardless of expertise, it still makes for...
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    Sticky: Re: New home

    I tried searching older posts and can say the search function is still not working.
    thanks
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    Re: Agarwood oil thread.

    Thank you for the chart.
    Is it Magnifincense Dark Meghalayan under the CO2?
    What is between Green Papua and Dark Papua?

    For context, if I may,
    I'll just post some of the description you...
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    Re: Ethically 'Harvested' Deer Musk

    Yes I am aware of the internal demand in China, and that mortality rates were high in the beginning of trials, and the musk inferior to wild.
    I was wondering if advancements have been made over the...
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    Re: Ethically 'Harvested' Deer Musk

    I'd not thought of that.
    Although if one were to wait for the natural course, and pick out old deer that had died,
    one would think their peak musk production period would have already passed and...
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    Re: Agarwood oil thread.

    Welcome back MrP!

    I was recently searching a copy of the oud flow chart you'd once made showing your ouds and the connections you'd made between them.
    The links to it had long expired, the group...
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    Re: Ethically 'Harvested' Deer Musk

    That does sound interesting!



    Sounds good to me.
    There are different philosophies and comfort levels. Personally, I'd like my musk blood free.



    Well, perhaps capture of the deer on...
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    Re: Ethically 'Harvested' Deer Musk

    Thanks, I am aware of Profumo.
    I wasn't aware of the background story, or perhaps only skim read it.
    It is pretty clear he got his musk from killed deer btw.
    The Marco Polo story about gathering...
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    Re: Agarwood/Kyara Inense Sticks

    No I have not,
    Baieido are one of the premium brands so I'm sure you'll be happy,
    however I believe the consensus on the forum was that their quality has declined somewhat over recent years.
    My...
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    Re: Agarwood/Kyara Inense Sticks

    Unfortunately, it seems Japanese incense is not as widely available in Europe as it is in the States.
    Also, U.S. companies will not (can not) ship out incense containing agarwood.
    And when you do...
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    Re: Ethical Deer Musk

    @Kaern
    Thanks, I am aware real musk is no longer used in mainstream perfumes. It is however still used in perfumery, other fragrant constructs, and TCM.
    Musk is not yet extinct, and its use has not...
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    Ethically 'Harvested' Deer Musk

    Hi,

    probably an improbability but is there such a thing as ethically 'harvested' musk available to buy?
    To further clarify I do not consider pods that come from culled Siberian populations as...
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    Re: Agarwood oil thread.

    Alshareef,
    thank you for providing these images,
    it is great to get some visuals of resin formation under physical inducement.

    Personally speaking, I would have liked to see a cross-section of...
  26. Re: Quest for THE Assam OUD. The Journey starts !

    Good luck! If you run into a Hindi like Yunus, let us know
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    Re: Agarwood oil thread.

    @Kyarazen, AlShareef

    >>actually its ok for a tree to have a rotten core... because the heart of most old trees are dead.... if you saw down some old growth koompassia or dalbergia...

    Can you...
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    Re: Agarwood oil thread.

    "I think I may have contaminated my sample or something with my own body oil, the opening smells like a sweaty, pungent gym bag now"

    Is that your natural scent? :P
    Delicious Scent indeed :)
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    Re: Agarwood oils - origins and production

    Sultanul Oud have one, Tarakano
    http://www.sultanuloud.com/collections/pure-oud/products/tarakano
    I've not ried it myself
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    @AlShareef, AgarwoodIndonesia >>Saudara...

    @AlShareef, AgarwoodIndonesia

    >>Saudara agarwoodindonesia said is accurate , that center piece is rot and it shouldn't be considered as Oudh,

    Which piece precisely?
    What am I looking for?
    I...
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    @5MeO "reminds me also of the green oil kyara...

    @5MeO
    "reminds me also of the green oil kyara scent as Oud Yusuf does"

    I know each piece of wood can differ, and that each nose perceives differently,
    but I'd just like to offer a counterpoint...
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    And old article linked to years ago, but I think...

    And old article linked to years ago,
    but I think a link to it should find a suitable home here in this thread:
    http://www.aramcoworld.com/issue/199706/the.roses.of.taif.htm
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    Re: Kyen Here is the latest copy from Ensar:...

    Re: Kyen

    Here is the latest copy from Ensar:
    In Thai, luew refers to the immediate surface area of the infection site on an agarwood tree. The second batch was a select kyen distillation of...
  34. Orgoglio italianO - Amouage had an attar, the Al...

    Orgoglio italianO -
    Amouage had an attar, the Al Andalus which was very much inspired by western fresh colognes.
    Think of it as Chez Bond with a spicier Arabian character.
    That one would be my...
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    kc3dl, it wasn't that bad. I was most surprised...

    kc3dl, it wasn't that bad. I was most surprised by the pretense and stalling... Usually vendors with substandard items fold very fast.
    I'm going through a more unpleasant one right now.
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    What is Kyen?

    What is Kyen?
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    Equally important in knowing who to trust, is...

    Equally important in knowing who to trust, is knowing who not to trust.

    I bought from norlinda72 off Ebay, I found the regular oud to smell nothing like oud so I sent a response:

    I received...
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    http://www.therisingphoenixgroup.com/#!products-an...

    http://www.therisingphoenixgroup.com/#!products-and-perfumes/c1rlf
    page 2,
    and P'Eau is a limited edition
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    I'd love to get some retrospective oudification,...

    I'd love to get some retrospective oudification,
    as such I would appreciate the opportunity to try past legends such as Borneo 3000, Oud Royale, Kyara Koutan, (old) Thaqeel, maybe Royal Kinam.
    Oils...
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    @goudaha "I asked TWIS if they would also...

    @goudaha
    "I asked TWIS if they would also consider partnering with EO as they have done with AA. Hope to get a positive response on that some day because TWIS offers oud oils in .75 ml bottles,...
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    @bluemoon has exceeded their stored private...

    @bluemoon has exceeded their stored private messages quota
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    @JDHawk I'm glad I made you smile, :) and here...

    @JDHawk
    I'm glad I made you smile, :)
    and here I was thinking only kyara could do that :P
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    Which do you find to have a chocolate smell to...

    Which do you find to have a chocolate smell to them?
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    @5MeO EnsarOud has new chips on his site ...

    @5MeO
    EnsarOud has new chips on his site

    @JDHawk
    I'd not be deterred by the description.
    I've read through it a couple of times and from what I see,
    only 2 points are made:
    a. West Papuan oud...
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    I believe the butane question has been previously...

    I believe the butane question has been previously answered.
    I recall reading it when I went through the thread.
    http://www.basenotes.net/group.php?discussionid=461&pp=10&page=709&do=discuss
    ...
  46. If I may say so, I consider the Di Parma...

    If I may say so, I consider the Di Parma decidedly mediocre. I'd not waste any pure oud on layering experiments with that one.
    I've not retained a complete memory of the Zegna, but from what I...
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    re Enfleurage I believe Trygve lives in Oman and...

    re Enfleurage
    I believe Trygve lives in Oman and has a distillation set-up there, and spesialises in frankincense.
    I wouldn't mind trying her frank oils :)
    http://www.absolutetrygve.com/
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    @AlshareefOudh I tried it, unfortunately I...

    @AlshareefOudh
    I tried it, unfortunately I picked an oil with a leathery/motor oil top note...
    The method seems to enhance the top note experience, very much like eating top notes,
    an aroma burst...
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    Yes ASAQ.

    Yes ASAQ.
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    From Zahras a while ago actually

    From Zahras a while ago actually
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    I have some Dehn Al Oud Cambodi, It is cambodi...

    I have some Dehn Al Oud Cambodi,
    It is cambodi only in name. Think of it in terms of a lower quality Hindi, a harsh powerful barnyard open which shifts to a woody hay base. I've not worn it in a...
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    @Thomas S. Yes, Marion's writing is lovely, I...

    @Thomas S.
    Yes, Marion's writing is lovely, I wish she still contributed. She is missed...

    Also this for regions
    http://www.fragrantica.com/news/OUD-SERIES-The-Smell-of-Oud-by-Terroir-5253.html
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    https://olfactoryrescueservice.wordpress.com/2011/...

    https://olfactoryrescueservice.wordpress.com/2011/03/06/oud-regional-profiling/
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    Locale, volume and pricing of the Patchouli...

    Locale, volume and pricing of the Patchouli should have meant it was genuine.
    If even that one was counterfeit, then there is little hope of any honest transaction with the vendor ever
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    What were the other oils you got? I believe...

    What were the other oils you got?
    I believe there was once mention of them having both synthetics and naturals. Obviously when shopping for naturals one would want to know what is pure and what not.
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    @kc3dl interesting combo, I'd think you'd want...

    @kc3dl interesting combo,
    I'd think you'd want to be precise with that kind of mix, i.e. mukhallat mixing,
    or have you at least pre-diluted some of the components?
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    @Kyarazen Best of luck in getting your oud GCMS...

    @Kyarazen
    Best of luck in getting your oud GCMS project funding. I hope you get the ball rolling soon.
    No doubt when you do get to it, some of the 100 samples you mention will prove to be less than...
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    @AlshareefOudh Perhaps then, you could align...

    @AlshareefOudh
    Perhaps then, you could align yourself with Kyarazen's spirit of openly sharing the knowledge.
    You could publish your findings with guiding notes on your upcoming webpage,
    or add to...
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    as a matter of interest. peculiar practices are...

    as a matter of interest.
    peculiar practices are at least interesting.
    Also if there is anything vaguely convincing about the reasoning one could always replicate on a micro scale with a lesser and...
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    "He did say in the clip that you don't have to...

    "He did say in the clip that you don't have to use expensive oils, cheap oils are fine. He is using the cheapest he could find."

    Obviously!
    I never thought otherwise, and I don't see why anybody...
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    Hi LadySara, I think the tendency is to move...

    Hi LadySara,

    I think the tendency is to move away from the larger Arabian orientated houses as one's experience deepens,
    so probably mosy have not tried the products you refer to. It is not that...
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    @Delicious Scent Plausible! I do get a menthol...

    @Delicious Scent
    Plausible! I do get a menthol feel in the opening stage, and later on I'd say the herbal sweetness I smell has a similar cooling effect such as menthol.

    @trucupey20
    Last time I...
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    Agar Attar review Upon application there's an...

    Agar Attar review
    Upon application there's an unmistakable oud barnyard pong that reaches out, but not far enough to be intrusive, and after half an hour that 'off-note' is completely gone, it's as...
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    @LittleCrow Thanks! Olfactory fatigue is a...

    @LittleCrow Thanks!

    Olfactory fatigue is a temporary phenomenon. Smelling a new oud on the first day wouldn't impair your ability to smell it the second, not unless you were taking a swipe...
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    I don't get visions, and as a general rule not...

    I don't get visions, and as a general rule not even isolated images,
    but I'd say a comparable experience to me is one of suspension,
    where wisps of the aroma distract you from daily routines; ...
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    @Scrumdiddlyupmtious re aged patchouli...

    @Scrumdiddlyupmtious
    re aged patchouli...
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    @Scrumdiddlyupmtious nice pics! Nice to see...

    @Scrumdiddlyupmtious nice pics!
    Nice to see Agarwoodindonesia offer his own stamp of style. I like it.

    @jjmoney
    I've never thought of Kritsana Pa and Purple Dervish as relatives.
    I'll have to...
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    @Sparky I've been happy with both the quality...

    @Sparky
    I've been happy with both the quality and pricing of Proudstyle products so far.
    Being in the EU it works for me. I can't use SKS because shipping and import duty would tip the balance....
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    @Sparky I've used over 100 vials from Proudstyle...

    @Sparky
    I've used over 100 vials from Proudstyle with no leakages and no breakages.
    Whereas I have received vials that leak, and I wish I knew the manufacturer of those,
    and I also once got 3ml...
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    I guess it depends where you are located,...

    I guess it depends where you are located, personally I use Proudstyle
    http://www.proudstyle.com/Items/Glass_Bottles/3258.html
    people I know in the US tend to use SKS...
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    I think if you cross post your 'challenge' post...

    I think if you cross post your 'challenge' post about finding good sandalwood nowadays it will make for a good thread starter.
    Personally I'd like to know where one can currently source good...
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    @fungusamongus kyarazen agarwoodindonesia I...

    @fungusamongus kyarazen agarwoodindonesia

    I believe both answers were referring to aetoxylon,
    personally I'm interested in trying both
    whether it be called gaharu buaya (aetoxylon)
    or it be...
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    @Kyarazen thanks 5kg is enough to bathe in...

    @Kyarazen
    thanks 5kg is enough to bathe in daily,
    I was looking to get maybe 10ml to try out ;)
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    @kyarazen speaking of buaya, where does one...

    @kyarazen

    speaking of buaya,
    where does one get buaya oil?
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    @agarwoodindonesia what do you mean by cork...

    @agarwoodindonesia

    what do you mean by cork tissued oud chips?
    by too quick do you mean a tree youngling that is not yet mature enough to fight the disease, so the disease penetrates to the sap...
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    To my understanding, wild is exactly that, just...

    To my understanding, wild is exactly that,
    just as you'd label a wild animal, it grew in a jungle unassisted, it was infected naturally, it triggered its resin and sat there without interference....
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    @PEARL @Sparky @edward t Thanks for the...

    @PEARL @Sparky @edward t

    Thanks for the suggestions some time ago about how to burn oud and where to get it from.
    I really like edward t's method of cutting little chunks with a wire cutter,
    and...
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    Alirican2: thanks for the suggestion. Oud Mostafa...

    Alirican2: thanks for the suggestion. Oud Mostafa did catch my eye, I'll think about sampling it.

    iris&oud: Thanks for the helpful description

    Andrew: I'd never considered mailing Ensar...
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    Hi, I was wondering if there's anything out...

    Hi,

    I was wondering if there's anything out there that is comparable to Yunus.
    I find the dry down of Yunus to be especially ethereal, there seems to be a fantastic depth to it and it's the only...
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    @PEARL @Sparky Thanks I tried again waiting for...

    @PEARL @Sparky
    Thanks I tried again waiting for the coal to form a white ash,
    more than a while actually, I guess I was overanxious when first trying and threw the oud straight into the fire.
    The...
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    @PEARL @Sparky I'm in Europe so Oudimentary's...

    @PEARL @Sparky
    I'm in Europe so Oudimentary's shipping is prohibitive. I believe the same is true of Essence of the Ages.
    I was also looking to dip a toe, so Agar Aura's 250$ is a bit steep to...
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    Got my first oud chips the other day, I got...

    Got my first oud chips the other day,
    I got Arabian oud premium Cambodi from house of misk.
    On first inspection they look polished, super polished.
    also I tried burning the smallest piece on coal...
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    Edward T quote: Yes! When I am low on money and...

    Edward T quote:
    Yes! When I am low on money and out of Hindi oud oil and have a dinner party to go to, I often buy a bag of cow manure fertilizer and rub it on my undershirt. I then drizzle on honey...
  84. Thread: enfleurage

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    Re: enfleurage

    I've not heard of distilling an EO from a fat. How would that set-up work?



    okay, thanks.



    I thought of that. I guess I might try it.
    Yes I had read the article, thanks.
  85. Thread: enfleurage

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    enfleurage

    Hi,

    I was looking to play around with an enfleurage experiment.

    First, I'm disgusted by lard, so I'm looking to use another fat.
    My thought is to use ghee. Any input on ghee's suitability?
    ...
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    Re: Did I get ripped off/scammed?

    Thanks for the info.
    In my case it was 7 defective out of 21.
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    Re: Did I get ripped off/scammed?

    I am a customer expressing my complete disgust at myperfumesamples' service.
    I am not affiliated with any fragrance company. I work in a hotel.



    I have posted my experience all over the web....
  88. Re: myperfumesamples.com - Is it legit? Is it reliable?

    I am a customer expressing my complete disgust at myperfumesamples' service.
    I am not affiliated with any fragrance company. I work in a hotel.



    I have posted my experience all over the web....
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    Re: Did I get ripped off/scammed?

    I received the samples intact from the post office and they were packaged well.
    The problem was gradual and took me a long time to distinguish as I don't check up on every sample I own daily.

    "As...
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    Re: Did I get ripped off/scammed?

    My experience with myperfumesamples company is very bad.


    I ordered two sets of samples and had the eventual problem with a couple of items from both sets of leaking/evaporating samples. I ended...
  91. Re: myperfumesamples.com - Is it legit? Is it reliable?

    My experience with the company is very bad.


    I ordered two sets of samples and had the eventual problem with a couple of items from both sets of leaking/evaporating samples. I ended up with 5...
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