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    Re: Adding a smoke note to Aventus

    Something tells me that Aventus may have actually used cade in the earlier batches, but then removed it and/or significantly reduced it after feedback from people saying that it smelled to ashy or...
  2. Thread: Top note Musks

    by Macaul
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    Top note Musks

    Hello,

    Is anyone here familiar with any top note Musks so to speak?

    I have worked with helvetolide and really love what it can do to a composition, so I was wondering if there are any Musks...
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    Re: Physicists / chemists wanted

    Makes me think of Schiff bases.... It would be important to know if these exist in a formula instead of treating 2 components individually. For example. Instead of plotting hydroxy citronellal and...
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    Re: Perfume magazine

    http://www.odoumag.com/
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    Re: Hedione vs Hedione high cis

    Yeah do ya!? :tongue:
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    Re: Hedione vs Hedione high cis

    The cis-Isomers are less thermodynamically stable than the trans-isomers and if given a reason, will convert back to a more stable form. This is why it is encouraged to keep HC Hedione cold and away...
  7. Re: LIVE Perfumer Chat scheduled for Sunday May 3 at Noon EDT

    sorry I missed this one! Ive been very busy with finals at school :cry:
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    Re: abercrombie fierce musk iso e super

    Evernyl is your friend!!! (the oakmoss synthetic)
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    Re: Where to shop in New Hampshire?

    Thats a tricky one! I also live in New Hampshire but have found that the only really good options are Neiman Marcus and Saks 5th Avenue in Boston, Ma. There is a pretty basic store in Kittery, Me...
  10. Re: Anyone know how to recreate the smell of barbasol?

    This has interested me as well. Certainly takes more than just those two matrials.

    Just as some potential ideas:

    Lavender oil
    Vanilla?
    Methyl ionone alpha
    Anisic aldehyde
    Some sort of...
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    Re: The Perfumers Formulation Bulletin

    Yes exactly :thumbdown:
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    Re: The Perfumers Formulation Bulletin

    sorry for my quick response earlier. But here is why I did not like the perfumers formulation bulletin.

    When you pay for GC/MS results, they do not send you the breakdown with the corresponding...
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    Re: The Perfumers Formulation Bulletin

    I found the GC/MS results to be just about useless from them. Even the samples they provided were quite poorly constructed.
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    Re: Exclusive Materials Proposition

    Wow, Definitely interested in this, aquatic bases would be cool.
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    Re: Benzyl Acetate Harshness

    Thanks for the update! I saw that PA stocked natural benzyl acetate but wasnt sure if it would be much better. But now I know. :)
  16. Re: Ceramic top of a heated stirrer that I'd like cleaner

    Paul, just wanted to let you know that DMSO (dimethylsulfoxide) should be handled with extreme caution...It has the ability to penetrate latex gloves/skin very easily, carrying any impurities along...
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    Re: Group buy for GC/MS

    I would also be interested in this!
    Here is a short list of some Id like:

    Terre d'Hermes
    Creed Aventus
    Creed Royal Oud
    Mont Blanc Legend
    Egoiste
  18. Thread: Powdery effect

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    Re: Powdery effect

    Although an expensive material, Cosmone is a great powdery musk.
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    Re: Perfumer's World

    I purchased a small amount of ethyl butyrate just to test the waters. The residual butyric acid from the synthesis was still very present and I chose not to use the material because of it. :(
  20. Re: Ambrofix versus Ambergris, equivalent strengths?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambrein

    and hey look, its odorless!
  21. Re: CIS-3-HEXENYL SALICYLATE Found in Essential Oils?

    After letting it age for some time, Im thinking your reason #1 is the issue. I believe there may be some natural oils that were added but are not showing up on the GC/MS. Im going to try...
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    Re: Creed Aventus...isolating the mossy note

    aha! gotcha. thanks for the explanation. :)
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    Re: Creed Aventus...isolating the mossy note

    Ive seen the word Couer used quite often..what does that mean?

    thanks!
  24. CIS-3-HEXENYL SALICYLATE Found in Essential Oils?

    Hello!

    Im looking at a GC/MS for a fragrance and I see high levels of Cis-3-Hexenyl Salicylate found in the blend. However if it add this in as an isolate it overpowers the formula, so something...
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    Re: Tonka Bean Tincture

    Hey Tim, It actually went quite well. I had left the beans in ethanol for about 4 months before removing them and the results were pretty good. Once you remove the beans, you will want to filter the...
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    Re: Benzyl Acetate Harshness

    Just as a further update. I was at a store the other day that sold essential oils and fragrance oils. They had a jasmine oil in some non-alcoholic carrier and it smelled great, because it was real...
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    Re: Living Jasmine Accord

    Thanks for all your help. Im using benzyl acetate sourced from the perfumers apprentice, so I would imagine grade should not be an issue. Ive had 3 separate bottles from them, all at different time...
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    Re: Living Jasmine Accord

    I tried making this accord by volume, instead of weight ( I know this is not correct)...I found that the benzyl acetate was still extremely overpowering and harsh. The accord was not soft/floral at...
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    Re: Male Underarm Sweat Accord

    Yes! Clary Sage is definitely a good male sweat note (in my opinion)
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    Re: Benzyl Acetate Harshness

    got it. I have everything I need (basing my accord off of GC/MS data previously shared on this forum),
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    Re: Benzyl Acetate Harshness

    Ive decided to build a jasmine accord and replace the benzyl acetate with the newly made accord. Should make a huge difference!
  32. Thread: Butyric Acid

    by Macaul
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    Re: Butyric Acid

    If I remember correctly, ethyl butyrate can be synthesized from butyric acid and ethanol using an acid catalyst. This would explain the residual amount of butyric acid found when you buy ethyl...
  33. Thread: Amber gris

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    Re: Amber gris

    Im sorry to say, what you have found is actually a partially eaten glazed scone :(

    Kidding of course! That certainly looks like ambergris. There is a simple test you can do to verify if you think...
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    Re: Benzyl Acetate Harshness

    Much appreciated! Ill see what I can come up with following this skeletal formula as a guide! Helps a bunch.
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    Re: Benzyl Acetate Harshness

    Thanks! Is the Sampaquita a blend just as the Perfumers apprentice jasmine accord is? Or is the Sampaquita a single aromachemical from Givadaun?
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    Re: Benzyl Acetate Harshness

    It certainly is a little high for me but I may purchase a small amount of it to work with. What types of substitutes are there?
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    Re: Benzyl Acetate Harshness

    Gotcha. I think I will restock on jasmine absolute in this case. I love the comparison by the way!

    If I had a formula that consisted of 5 drops benzyl acetate, would that translate into 5 drops...
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    Benzyl Acetate Harshness

    Hello, I had a question regarding benzyl acetate.

    Ive seen some example formulas and designer knock-off formulas that use high levels of benzyl acetate in substitution for Jasmine. I understand...
  39. Re: Alcohol smell standout, how do I get rid off it

    What would you recommend using as a prefixative? Ive heard of benzoin being used for this purpose, is that true? I have Benzoin styrax but im not quite sure if its the same thing...People say benzoin...
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    Re: Coumarin, A Carcinogen?

    I will..............leav..no...I will TAKE that.
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    Re: A little game.... ?

    I tried at a simplified version of Molecule 01 using materials I had access to. Here is what I came up with:

    Timbersilk 25
    Timbersilk 5% 4
    Timbersilk 1% 2
    Timbersilk 9
    Timbersilk 4 10%

    Its...
  42. Re: Ethyl vanillin/methyl anthranilate Schiff's Base

    Ive also made this accord. It seems to have wayyy too much javanol.

    I totally agree with you on the Ebanol....It has a syurpy note in itself!
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    Coumarin, A Carcinogen?

    I was watching a TED talk with Luca Turin, who was giving a speech on the theory of smell. He mentioned that coumarin was a carcinogen. I did some more research and the United States do not consider...
  44. Re: Geosmin can be detected in 0.1 parts per billion!

    With such a low odor threshold I would expect there to be something in geosmin like -SH. But the structure just has methyl and hydroxyl groups for substituents.

    Im curious to know why we are so...
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    Re: A little game.... ?

    So Im a little confused by that ingredient list....Are those ALL of the chemicals/eo's the he uses?
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    Re: 2,6-dimethoxyphenol - I ordered 25g

    When I was younger, before college, I helped my father build our house. I remember loading stacks of plywood into our trailer and smelling this smokey note coming from the plywood. I had no idea why...
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    Re: Norlimbanol Dilution

    Does this have a "draft compensator" programmed into the scale which prevents the scale from recognizing very small quantities? I remember you referencing this scale before but could not find it.
    ...
  48. Re: Advice on Adding "Polish" to My First Fragrance

    I think you said this perfectly. The learning aspect is so important, but at the same time, its extremely fun. Ive only been experimenting for a year now and ive done hundreds of...
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    Re: Decanal-4-trans in the US

    Thank you both for the help!! :thumbsup:
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    Decanal-4-trans in the US

    Does anyone know where I can buy a small amount of decanal-4-trans in the U.S.? The only place I was able to find it was at Vigon in large volumes.

    Thank you!
  51. Meeting IFRA Standards Using Fragrance Oils

    Hello!

    I have been working on some formulas, and I realized that one of them contains a fragrance oil, so certainly, I do not know what is in it.

    Im not sure how the process works exactly, but...
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    The Original Polo by Carlos Benaim

    This fragrance..is hands down one of the most powerful, sparkling fragrances I have ever smelled.

    Does anyone here have any clue what may give this formula its kick? I have an empty bottle from 5...
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    Re: Notes that have a sparkling/tingling effect

    Ah, thank you for this note. that helps. and Niche1, I appreciate your contribution!
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    Re: Notes that have a sparkling/tingling effect

    By the way, I think one of the best examples of a tingling/sparkling fragrance, is the original Polo made by carlos benaim. WOW. that cologne has sparkle all the way through the dry down. not sure...
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    Re: Notes that have a sparkling/tingling effect

    well...to be quite honest, I have never smelled ambergris in its "pure" form.....quite possibly, ive never even smelled it in a fragrance, for I have not smelled many older classic fragrances.
    ...
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    Re: Notes that have a sparkling/tingling effect

    Gotcha, well now that I know benzyl salicylate is mostly used as a blender, I will change how I use it. I do have some mints that I can try this out with.
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    Re: Notes that have a sparkling/tingling effect

    Sorry...I made it sound like my formula was in PG, but it is in fact in ethanol.

    I was just referring to the raspberry ketone... BUT..my formula did have quite a bit of it, so theres definitely a...
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    Re: Notes that have a sparkling/tingling effect

    Thanks for the tips everyone. Ill have to look into decenal-4-trans.

    I have tried using some of the aldehydes listed above but dont have ethyl linealyl acetate or linealyl acetate.

    Still...my...
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    Notes that have a sparkling/tingling effect

    I am working on a few formulas, and some of them smell nice, but they seem to be missing a very important component.

    The top notes are certainly there, but there is no "sparkle" as I would like to...
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    Re: Dissecting Famous Fragrances

    I know this may not be 100% related, but its something....

    Axe (yay...) just released a new shower gel in the U.S...I forget the name, I believe it is 'Harmony'...and i dont know what they were...
  61. Thread: Musk ketone

    by Macaul
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    Re: Musk ketone

    here is an article explaining health concerns if you are interested!

    http://www.ehjournal.net/content/13/1/14
  62. Thread: Musk ketone

    by Macaul
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    Re: Musk ketone

    at what molarity do you recommend? :lolk:
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    Re: How to Build Accords

    one way of doing it (I suppose) is knowing what occurs naturally in a rose. This can be done via headspace analysis, and there may be some articles online that show the breakdown of the volatiles...
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    Re: Making A Formula From A GC/MS Analysis

    Good point! :)
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    Re: Making A Formula From A GC/MS Analysis

    Ahah! So, has anyone tried GC on creed aventus?! Ha!
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    Re: Making A Formula From A GC/MS Analysis

    So, do the natural oils not show up as large peaks in the GC? but rather, a large number of small peaks? I understand if there are a lot of natural oils used in a fragrance, that can translate to...
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    Solvent Extraction of Fruits?

    Hello,

    I had a question regarding the extraction of volatiles from fruits via solvent extraction. I noticed that there are not a lot of essential oils available for fruits, but can aroma-chemicals...
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    Re: Great Free PDF of a book

    This is a great PDF. Thank you!
  69. Thread: Feminine Musks

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    Re: Feminine Musks

    You make a good point, David. I believe the reason I am interpreting things as feminine vs masculine has a lot to do with the "darkness" or heaviness of a scent (masculine to me) vs the...
  70. Thread: Pineapple EO

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    Re: Pineapple EO

    Wow, this article is amazingly helpful. Thanks so much! and thank you everyone else for your help :)
  71. Thread: Feminine Musks

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    Re: Feminine Musks

    I haven't worked with/smelled hedione yet, but I will be doing so this week, Im pretty excited for I hear it plays a (huge?) role in modern fragrances.
  72. Thread: Feminine Musks

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    Re: Feminine Musks

    Gotcha, I can understand that!
  73. Thread: Feminine Musks

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    Feminine Musks

    In women's fragrances, are some musks more commonly used than others?

    I have a pretty good assortment of musks and ambergris-like aroma chemicals and was wondering if some of these musks are...
  74. Thread: Pineapple EO

    by Macaul
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    Pineapple EO

    So, is there such thing as a pineapple EO used commonly in perfumery?

    Id like to build a true pineapple accord but so far the aromachemicals I am working with seem way off from the real deal

    I...
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    Re: Strength of Ambergris Tiincture

    Great article thanks for posting that!
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    Strength of Ambergris Tiincture

    Hello!

    I have seen some people creating fragrances/accords using real ambergris, and what I see a lot is people using ambergris at 2-3% dilution and only using a few drops...

    With this much...
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    Re: Coumarin crystalsqq

    Say you dilute coumarin to 10% in pure ethanol and you add say, 5 drops, to your fragrance that you are working on....being that those 5 drops are 90% ethanol...should this be considered when you go...
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    Re: Nice read: 1 trillion(!) scents

    That is awesome.
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    Re: Tonka Bean Tincture

    Thank you very much for your help. Ill report back in 14 days at the end of this process to provide some updates on the concentration of this tincture.
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    Re: Tonka Bean Tincture

    I see in this book, it suggests 3 pints of alcohol added to the 8oz of beans. I just started a tincture with 8oz of beans to ~8oz of alcohol. Would you suggest against this? I want a concentrated...
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    Order of operations

    Hello again.

    I'm working with a bunch of new aroma chemicals and EOs that I recently acquired and I'm curious, what's the best way to test a mixture of oils? Is it best to analyze just the oils in...
  82. Re: Concentrating Fragrance/Cologne/Perfume to Improve Longevity/Projection/Sillage- A Fix for the B

    Cool little experiment. Other than the concentration, did you notice the profile of the fragrance change?
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    Re: Tonka Bean Tincture

    Yes exactly. I was thinking of isolating the coumarin in a tincture, then making a separate tincture with the same beans, but this time, pulverizing them. I have heard of this being done...
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    Tonka Bean Tincture

    Hello!

    I have 8oz of tonka beans and im looking to make a tincture using the outer crystals of the beans (without pulverization). What is the best solution to make this tincture in. Ethanol or...
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    Re: Febreze Lavender Trash Bags. Whats in them?

    Thanks guys, super helpful!
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    Re: Febreze Lavender Trash Bags. Whats in them?

    Thanks Paul. Would you say that synthetic forms of lavender such as linalool and linalyl acetate are more floral smelling than earthy? I noticed that Lavender essential oil has an earthy smell to it....
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    Re: The Power of Aging Fragrances

    This is very helpful. Do big brands to this same thing? Their products are in high demand, but is it typical for companies to age their fragrances before the become available for purchase?
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    Febreze Lavender Trash Bags. Whats in them?

    So, I recently bought some trash bags and I got the Febreze force flex ones with the lavender scent. They smell awesome. Almost like a lavender/vanilla scent to it. It even makes part of the kitchen...
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    Re: The Power of Aging Fragrances

    Thanks! how do you age your fragrances? (where do you store them, what temp)
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    The Power of Aging Fragrances

    Im new to creating my own fragrances, and I have a quick question.

    Does aging your perfume/cologne make a small difference or a BIG difference?

    The reason I am asking is because I have already...
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    Re: Advantages of Aldehydes

    Awesome. You actually answered that question perfectly. I Thought that there were more aldehydes that were commonly used. You also taught me how natural fragrances such as creed can vary based on...
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    Advantages of Aldehydes

    Hello,

    I was curious, what are they advantages of using an aldehydic compound as opposed to the real thing? For example, would there be any benifit of choosing an aldehyde that smells like neroli,...
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    Re: Must Have Equipment for your "Lab"

    Thanks. I currently have access to plenty of filters and filter paper so Ill definitely keep some of this in stock.
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    Re: Must Have Equipment for your "Lab"

    Thanks for the information everyone! I like the idea of an automatic pipette/tips. great way to ensure accuracy and repeat-ability.
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    Must Have Equipment for your "Lab"

    For those who are perfumists at home, who here has found that there work area has turned into a lab so to speak?

    Other than your materials such as solvents/oils/alcohols/etc, what equipment do...
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    Reducing Carboxylic Acids to Aldehydes

    Hello again! In this post, Id like to first ask, how do you properly store your aldehydes for relavitely long periods of time? Im sure most people here understand that they can oxidize to carboxylic...
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    Re: Ozonolysis to synthesize Aldehydes?

    Im very curious myself! Hopefully someone will know a little more than I do on this process!
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    Ozonolysis to synthesize Aldehydes?

    Hey everyone!

    I was curious if there are any perfumists here that have utilized the ozonolysis process to create their own aldehydes? Im new to the art of fragrances, but I also found that a lot...
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    New to Basenotes

    Hello everyone! I just joined basenotes today and it seems like an awesome forum! Im currently studying chemistry and I am just now getting into the art of fragrances. Ill be building a small lab at...
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