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    Re: New Smelly Game: Animalic

    I just put my 2 samples in the mail.
    Excited to see how everyone did.

    I did not make as much progress since the Holidays as I hoped, but I am happy with it.
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    Re: New Smelly Game: Animalic

    I'm IN!
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    Re: The Even More Ultimate Amber Game #2

    Thanks to the judges for the feedback.

    My plan was to build around:
    Vanilla CO 2
    Cocoa Abs
    Geranium EO (for depth in place of harsher labdanum and patchouli)

    Probably too much
    Bergamot...
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    Re: The Even More Ultimate Amber Game #2

    I really appreciate the time the judges are taking to give us feedback.
    I regret not having Mumsy's courage to dilute in eth(you know what) and the PG was all I had around.
    The solubility issue was...
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    Re: The Even More Ultimate Amber Game #2

    Just got back from holiday, so glad my sample finally made it to David.
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    Re: The Even More Ultimate Amber Game #2

    Mine will go out tomorrow.
    Just asked for Christine's address
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    Re: The Even More Ultimate Amber Game #2

    Amber has been very tough.
    I do have something to submit.
    I'll start asking for mailing addresses.
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    Re: Lime essence oil suppliers?

    Thanks for the suggestions, and thanks Christine for checking with your contact.
    Let me know what they say, a kg minimum is probably too much for me at this point since citrus doesn't last long....
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    Lime essence oil suppliers?

    Does anyone know of a supplier of lime essence oil (not distilled or cold pressed). I believe it is from the fruit itself?

    I am obsessed with citrus, specifically lime fragrances. I have been...
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    Re: The Even More Ultimate Amber Game #2

    I shall attempt to join since I missed the last game.
    And I have most of the materials mentioned.
  11. Re: Hi Newbie here! Need your expertise on essential oil formulas for my beeswax candle project, ple

    I would try unscented candles first based on what everyone has said.
    Then use the profits to experiment w essential oils.
    I know the expression out of beeswax is so bad, that I worry you'll spend a...
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    Re: The Ultimate Amber game

    Apologies, I will have to bow out,
    My recent travels did leave me enough time to prepare anything of note.
    Best of luck to all.
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    Re: Help a migraine prone guy out?

    I am not a doctor or expert on this issue. But I have had friends also have the same issue w fragrances.
    It could be related to chemicals that activate the Trigeminal nerve, of which ammonia is a...
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    Re: Giveaway TEST Lavandula Angustifolia samples

    I got mine in the mail today.
    Thanks they are wonderful.
    I'll send specific comments to the email address as noted.

    The hydrosol took me back to my honeymoon. It smells just like the local...
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    Re: Giveaway TEST Lavandula Angustifolia samples

    Super exciting, the pictures look great!
  16. Re: PONK Module 2 - odour descriptions here (spoiler alert past post1)

    I got mine yesterday!
    Working on #1 as we speak
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    Re: The Ultimate Amber game

    I will try to get a submission in, although I have quite a bit of travel coming up.
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    Re: How do you guys get back on the horse?

    You can join PONK to get back in the groove! ( see Mumsy's signature line)

    I find these groups and games get me on task for the specific game, then I naturally start working on my own projects...
  19. Re: Spoiler alert - Ponk club January Module 1 - Reveal - so don't look or mention it elsewhere

    Very interesting, especially since I thought nerol was Citral due to the lemongrass-ness of it.
    Which isn't too far off chemically replacing an =O for the OH.

    47460
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    Re: Day 3 in Grasse part II

    So wonderful, I do love an authentic travel experience vs the touristy routine.
  21. Re: A question on flash points to the scientists and mathematicians here.

    Yeah the volatility differences make it very hard.
    You could dilute ethanol to 10% in something non flammable (90%) and the total flashpoint would probably only move 10% closer to the average of the...
  22. Re: A question on flash points to the scientists and mathematicians here.

    Flashpoint is tested by igniting the headspace above a mixture.
    Therefore, any mixture with more than 10% ethanol will have roughly the same flashpoint as ethanol.
    So it is very difficult to dilute...
  23. Re: The art of Perfume vs. other arts: 5 Things I've Realized

    Awesome thoughts Darryl.

    All are great points. I totally agree with you on #4, might be a bit esoteric for some but I believe it in every aspect of life.
    It was actually discussed this week on...
  24. Re: PONK - January blind sniff... odour descriptions here (spoiler alert past post 1)

    Hmmmmm i did transfer my vials into larger vials so that I could get a full blotter into them for better sniffing.
    What I said about #1 lines up w what others seem to be thinking and saying about...
  25. Re: PONK - January blind sniff... odour descriptions here (spoiler alert past post 1)

    Tissue paper!
    It has the texture of colored tissue paper.
  26. Re: PONK - January blind sniff... odour descriptions here (spoiler alert past post 1)

    My wife did say she thought it smelled like a specific flower, and then she got a citrus aspect, almost lemony.
  27. Re: PONK - January blind sniff... odour descriptions here (spoiler alert past post 1)

    Thanks Chris.
    I actually recognize this material as well.
    I believe it to be a single material and not a natural blend. Probably a synthetic aroma chemical but probably could be a natural isolate...
  28. Re: PONK - January blind sniff... odour descriptions here (spoiler alert past post 1)

    Thanks, I am ignoring the Vile Vial 4.

    Here are my first thoughts on Vial #1 (someone should start off the learning)

    It's floral
    A little oily - might be the solvent as this is my first...
  29. Re: PONK - January blind sniff... odour descriptions here (spoiler alert past post 1)

    I just got mine today as well! (USA)
    I'm excited and will download the evaluation sheet to get started.
  30. Re: PONK - A 'nose' club - Blind nose training amongst ourselves. Anyone interested?

    I signed up. I'm super excited to get my box.
    If anyone is on the fence, I hope they enjoy the Jan conversation and join in the fun for next month.

    I'm going to try and not look at the Jan thread...
  31. Re: Compiling a List of Perfume Classes and Workshops

    My wife and I were just talking about what classes might be out there.
    I'm excited to follow and see what others have found.
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    Re: Chemically, what makes a note a "fixative?"

    I've been doing my own tests on various solvents to look for a good fixative effect.
    I too have found that many have almost no effect.
    If I have any luck I'll report back to the group.
  33. Re: PONK - A 'nose' club - Blind nose training amongst ourselves. Anyone interested?

    I'm IN.
    A PayPal subscription might be an easy way to organize the dues.
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game: CLOSED

    Congrats Renegade!
    I remember you had a great Zino composition as well.
    I'd love to hear how you approached the brief.
    Well done!
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game: CLOSING END OCTOBER!

    Thanks Irina, if I recall Renegade had a great Submission from the Zino game, so that one should be exciting to smell.

    Mumsy, I'm so glad it finally arrived. I was quickly whipping up a backup...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game: CLOSING END OCTOBER!

    Mumsy,
    Did my oil arrive?
    I sent it almost 2 weeks ago, should I try to send more?
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game: CLOSING END OCTOBER!

    Mumsy, let me know when you get my sample.
    It went out the same day as Irina's which has already arrived.
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game: CLOSING END OCTOBER!

    Also, I don't know if the judges would like us to wait to not influence them, but I'd be interested in hearing how everyone approached the brief.
    That could help with development and growth.
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game: CLOSING END OCTOBER!

    I sent mine off without any dilution instructions.
    I did Option 1 (less than 50) which was easy since is used a few naturals (maybe I didn't stretch myself :) )

    I think I'd dilute mine to roughly...
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    Re: Amazing power of natural musk and ambergris

    Sounds amazing.

    It would be interesting if you did a side by side comparison.
    Remake your blend removing only those two small tinctures, then see the effect on the other materials.
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    I'm there. Let me know how much undiluted sample (or how many) the smellers will need?
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    Just keeping the energy going.

    Hope everyone is doing well.
    I think my Super Girl is more of a Spring / Summer scent than a Fall / Winter.
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    I am ready to send.

    I've had a final batch resting for a month now and just started a second incase I need to send out more.

    I'm excited to hear how others approached this concept.
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    Re: Plum Note / Accord

    What about a little methyl ionone gamma 70?
    I know it's not really plum but it's what popped in my head from my inventory.
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    That is neat, great idea for clubs.
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    In the first picture is a 1 oz vial. Inside I placed a small thin sample vial filled with glow in the dark powder.
    So it's not in the perfume at all but in a glass vial placed into the perfume oil....
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    My final (hopefully) batch has been resting a bit and awaiting minor tweaks before submitting.
    Since I'll have to ship full oil to avoid ethanol shipping issues, I though I'd post a couple pictures...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    That is a great old comic.
    My final (hopefully) mix has been patiently sitting for a couple weeks.
    I'm going to try and hold off a little longer before deciding if any final tweaks are needed due...
  49. Re: First ever perfume finished with a crimped bottle......

    Congrats! Looks great, I love the bottle.
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    I think a larger batch does sit differently, I'll find out soon on this one as its only been a couple days so far.
    Hopefully if it's off a bit I can balance it back out.
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    I think I have my submission. I just made a larger batch of concentrate to start to let it sit.
    Maybe I'll have to fine tune the balance once this big batch sits a bit.
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    Re: Adding Lime oil,Peel to Dominica Bay Rum

    I appreciate Orgoglio Italiono's kind remarks.
    Lime has been an obsession of mine for the past couple years, and I have been constantly tinkering with my formula. While a very "concrete" direct...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    Thanks I'll check out that Oakmoss.
    I did the Zino game, and started the one after that but got too busy to finish.
    I think it is going better this time around and I thought I would struggle with a...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    I think I chose option 1, fewer than 50 materials. Which is normally easy for me since I like naturals.
    This is only my second "game" so I need the practice.

    I saw it happen after only a few days...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    I think I ran into what Mumsy calls White Noise. I had 2 accords that I though went together well. I added some natural florals to try and add some depth. It worked out ok right after mixing....
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    Hi LeatherMountain - I also thought it should be more synthetic based on the brief to be new and different.
    I still used some natural florals which I love in general. However, they were causing an...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    My latest ideas to "improve" my SG have only made it worse, so I must be getting close to a final submission :)
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    I'm happy with round 7.
    Fixed 2 issues so far.
    This is a good game as it's helping me work with more synthetic florals when I would have reached for more naturals before.
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    At first I was worried that I wouldn't be able to come up with a unique angle on this brief.
    Then I found one I liked, and started to like some early versions.
    I was patient enough to let them sit...
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    Re: Adding Lime oil,Peel to Dominica Bay Rum

    I've been on a Lime kick for a while now.
    I love GF Trumper Lime, but it is not very long lasting.
    I've been working on my own Lime for the past 2 years.
    It's longer lasting than Trumpers and...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    I'm 100% IN, I've ordered some materials I think I may be using.
  62. Re: Looking for master destiller advice (essential oil)

    This is interesting to me, since I have never done it but took Distillation courses in college.
    There is software available that may help you predict the best temperature and design.
    It may be...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    Hello, I'd love to play and will probably do option 1.
    I enjoyed Mumsy's game, and had to bow out of David's due to a few hectic months.

    I'll have to do some research on SuperGirl and possible...
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    Re: Un Jardin Sur Le Nil

    I recently bought this for my wife.
    She doesn't wear much perfume, but this is light enough for her to wear once in a while.
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    Re: Ingredients... If money were no object

    On another thread, someone had some ambergris...or poo, you may want to check that out :)
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    Re: Is this a Ambergris?

    I'm on Team Poo
  67. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    Here is my formula, mostly EOs other than linalool:

    Bergamot 72
    Lime Distilled 45
    Lavender 72
    Clary Sage 15
    Linalool/Rosewood 240
    Rose abs 15
    Geranium 15
    Jasmine 15
  68. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    I got Mumsy's the other day. Made me regret my terrible packaging choices :)

    It is very good and interesting. I'd say the most balanced out if the group so far.
    An herbal, floral, almost aquatic...
  69. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    My wife also commented it smelled like a more modernized version of the 80's Zino.
    Very good!
  70. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    Of course after smelling all of these, the afternoon post brings Cybervoltages.
    It may be fun after for each of us to share our whole approach, resources and formula.

    Because this one is bright...
  71. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    Sorry for the delay in my detailed response, it was a busy week and I didn't even get these onto blotter.
    Here is what I have for the ones I have received so far.

    Mstrocovie's- as much as I was...
  72. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    Good day for the mail/post!
    I have Renedgade's and Mstrocovie's Zino samples going on blotter as I type.

    I was incredibly surprised at how light and floral the real Zino is vs my expectations. ...
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    I'll start with A as I have most of the RMs, and see if I have time for B.
  74. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    I'd be IN for other games. This really helped me use and get used to other materials I don't use that often.
  75. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    My "Patchouli Oils" are also on their way to each of you today.
    Nizan PM me your address and I'll send you a sample as well.

    Cross your fingers they all arrive.
  76. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    Getting my samples ready, mine will be easy to spot as it ended up very dark, even diluted.
    While reading about Zino, I saw many say it had a good cedar note without going towards hampster cage.
    So...
  77. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    Mumsy, I think I need you to PM me your address so that I can send you my submission.

    How much should I send?
    I made about 15ml of perfume.

    I did make a 2 mL diluted sample, will that be...
  78. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    I'm in the US and will need one. I'll PM you.

    Mumsy- should I send out my submission before getting a sample of Zino?
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    Re: Alternative Solvent

    I think DEP has a bad safety history and isn't widely used anymore.
    The rest aren't too volatile and may spray weird out of a stock atomizer bottle.
    As in they won't atomize too efficiently and...
  80. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    I'll be ready by end of this month.
    I'm excited to smell the others to see how different they are.
    Great question on dilution, I assumed DPG or something but have held off my concentrate until we...
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    Re: Whole rose flower intinction?

    Google Paper Roses
  82. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    I think I'm ready to share.
    I may need to make a bigger sample, depending on how many we need to ship to at the same time.
  83. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    That's great news Mumsy.
    When you say White Noise, do you mean like an olfactive white?


    Nizan, in other applications I think I have found that too much hedione can go powdery/soapy on dry down.
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    Re: Your top 10 perfumery raw materials

    1. Australian Sandalwood.
    2. Linalool.
    3. Frankincense
    Haven't figured out how to use it real well yet, I want to try the method of collecting the smoke.
    4. Citral
    5. Wintergreen oil
    6....
  85. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    I will certainly have to try this technique withe the scent strips.
    Could save me from wasting some materials.
  86. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    Does everyone else use a similar technique as Nizan, balancing all basenotes before moving to mid and top?
    I'm pretty sure I have read Ina book to take that approach.

    I must admit, while I sniff...
  87. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    I can get an ashy note if I use too much clary sage w the patchouli.
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    Re: A sweet and spicy perfume formula

    I've come across your blog/site before doing a google search for Cathedral forumlas.
    Very helpful! I'm also going to try your burnt Frankincense trick at some point.

    Couldn't register for your...
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    Re: Rosewood source or substitute

    I was recently searching the same topic.
    I found this place in Canada and placed an order for Rosewood Leaf Oil.
    http://www.botanicplanet.com/rosewood-leaf-essential-oil-3617

    Out of the bottle,...
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    Re: buy analysis GC/MS

    I'd be in for splitting one.
    What about the databases or whatever to turn the data into actual chemical composition?
    I don't know much about that.
  91. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    I think I have my final version.
    I made another round of mods to push a few things but it didn't work out so I think I've gone far enough.
    I fixed an imbalance on dry down and am happy.

    Have we...
  92. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    I'm using a lot of naturals too.
    I really backed down my clary sage for the same reason.
    I get the idea of the dirty or rotting floral, but sometimes it goes too much like black licorice.
    Still...
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    Re: Suggestions for new games

    I'd be IN for another game after Zino.
    What I like about it is it makes me use and work with some materials I may not normally reach for on a daily basis.
    After the holidays might be a better time.
  94. Re: Has any one tried Neroli 36 from Le Labo? What kind of musk it has?

    Have you tried ethylene brassylate?
  95. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    Latest round of playing around was great. Much more balanced, if this matures well it could be my submission.

    I reduced some cedar to avoid the hampster cage comments.
    Lowered my Clary Sage as it...
  96. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    Last weekend I was working on a second attempt (reducing florals and vanilla). Hours later, I had dinner with some family and had forgotten that I tested it on my skin.
    It got great compliments as...
  97. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    I also thought my first attempt was too floral and vanilla.
    I also thought it was unbalanced, but as it has matured for a week I like it more.
    Should have some time this weekend to make another...
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    Re: Advice on a formula

    Looks heavy overall, what about a sweet basil or black pepper EO.
  99. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    My first attempt, very unbalanced but I think essence might be in there to be found.
  100. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    Just got an order of materials, I should be ready to get started now!
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