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  1. Re: Conversations with the Artisan: Ensar of Ensar Oud

    What really doesn't come across in this article is that the Oud scene is pretty vibrant, and there are some excellent vendors out there. The likes of Agar Aura, Oudimentary, Al Shareef Oudh, Imperial...
  2. Thread: Oud forum

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    Re: Oud forum

    oops
  3. Re: MFK Velvet & Cashmere Oud (compared to real Laotian oud)

    @HackerX -
    Laotian oils are generally of the skanky variety IMO, so aren't that amenable to public wearing or as a dominant note. That's not to say they aren't awesome oils though - they can be...
  4. Re: Choose one oud oil that you think best represents the world of oud

    Wow - I'm amazed to see my all time top three oils already mentioned:

    1. AA: Cambodi Royale
    2. AA: East Kalimantan
    3. EO: Kyara Koutan

    While I agree with @Kc3dl that cultivated oils are...
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    Re: Which scent would you break the bank for?

    I have broken the bank many times. Puredistance M and Tribute (white box) were well worth it, and I would do it again. In my early days of scent appreciation, I splurged on a bunch of Creeds - I...
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    Re: Amouage Tribute Attar

    I also have to agree. Nothing I've tried has been similar enough to be considered a replacement. I also agree with the recommendation to try Agar Aura's attars - just one thing though - these attars...
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    Sticky: @Andrew - Point taken.

    @Andrew - Point taken.
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    Sticky: @5MeO - nice picks :) And "The grasping,...

    @5MeO - nice picks :)

    And "The grasping, craving, dissatisfied monkey mind flares up from time-to-time.. " is exactly it!
    It can even get to the stage where one can grieve at missing out on...
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    Sticky: The "use them up" approach is mainly theoretical...

    The "use them up" approach is mainly theoretical at this stage. :) The whole Oud thing constantly reminds me of the nature of, and importance of - understanding impermanence.
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    Sticky: Wow- all I have to do is stay up until 2.30am and...

    Wow- all I have to do is stay up until 2.30am and it's all happening here!

    @GLTASN - Re the wood guy: I guess all you can do is keep your sense of humour with that one! :)

    The other way to...
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    Sticky: I agree. Those are beautiful vials! I tried to...

    I agree. Those are beautiful vials! I tried to get some a while back but on top of trying to find them - getting them to Australia was prohibitive. @GLTASN - I would like to know where you get yours...
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    Ghaliyah Al-Molook, I didn't actually put any on...

    Ghaliyah Al-Molook, I didn't actually put any on though - my shirt was already primed!
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    Sticky: @Ibnmasood - I don't know those websites, but I...

    @Ibnmasood - I don't know those websites, but I do recommend caution buying Vietnamese oils. Culturally, oils are not part of Vietnamese culture (like in the Middle East), so I wouldn't expect to...
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    Sticky: @littlecrowgirl - a while back BN changed...

    @littlecrowgirl - a while back BN changed operating systems (hudler I think?) and it didn't work out so well. They then went back to the old system, but it seems like much info was lost for that...
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    Sticky: Hi All, Just wanted to wish you all a good...

    Hi All,
    Just wanted to wish you all a good holiday season and the very best for 2015.

    I had a challenging 2014, and this thread has continued to be a great little place to escape to and read up...
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    AA Borneo Hutan again - love that woody woodiness...

    AA Borneo Hutan again - love that woody woodiness :)
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    Tom Ford Tobacco Vanille today - not a trace of...

    Tom Ford Tobacco Vanille today - not a trace of oud!!

    @Tarik - I get more pepper than sweet from Supreme.
  18. Re: Does anyone keep a fragrance in their collection that they hate?

    Yes hate is a strong word - indicating intensity of emotion rather than "don't like", "indifferent to", or even "grosses me out but I have to smell it". I don't put that much energy into "hating" a...
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    Agar Supreme today from AA. This was the first of...

    Agar Supreme today from AA. This was the first of the Malaysian oils from Taha over the past year or so. To me, this one is like the baseline oil - the one with the clearest representation of the...
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    Sticky: @Bigbloke - Whoa!!!!!!!!!! You got some good...

    @Bigbloke - Whoa!!!!!!!!!! You got some good lookin' stuff there!

    @Delicious Scent - There are no rules ;-) The trick is to strike the balance of wearing the oils, but not running out! In...
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    Borneo Hutan again - I only have 1/10th of a ml...

    Borneo Hutan again - I only have 1/10th of a ml left, but I want to wear it!
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    Sticky: @kc3dl - I reckon first time(s) we smell oud it...

    @kc3dl - I reckon first time(s) we smell oud it activates brain receptors that then stay activated and can pick accords not previously able to. Much like opioid receptors, THC receptors, and again -...
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    Borneo Hutan today. This is a Borneo from AA from...

    Borneo Hutan today. This is a Borneo from AA from around 2011, and I think from Kalimantan. Not much ethereal note, no barn, not much sweetness, no vanilla. Pure delicious woodiness - incredible oil...
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    Sticky: "cola swamp" - "mud cloth" - great descriptors! ...

    "cola swamp" - "mud cloth" - great descriptors! It is that note that sets them apart, but is so hard to define. When not done well, it is a dirty swamp, and when done well, is something amazing -...
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    Sticky: To me Cambodi type oils are usually fruity. With...

    To me Cambodi type oils are usually fruity. With newer or Thai ones the fruit is tropical, and can verge on an almost rotting fruit accord. A good example of this would be Oriscent's old Cambodi...
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    Sticky: @littlecrowgirl - You go girl!! :) @oshaunasy...

    @littlecrowgirl - You go girl!! :)

    @oshaunasy - Welcome - there is indeed much to be read and pondered here.

    A small technicality - you have been lurking - not trolling. lurking is ok -...
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    Sticky: @Peonyrose - "various shades of brown" - love it!...

    @Peonyrose - "various shades of brown" - love it! That perfectly describes my own attempts too, and similarly my appreciation for the likes of Taha and Sultanpasha who create such awesome blends. It...
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    Ghaliyah Al-Molook ...... again... Shhhhhh...

    Ghaliyah Al-Molook ...... again...

    Shhhhhh - Just between you and me, I managed to find a second bottle, so I'm splashing this on like Brut 33! ;-)
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    Sticky: @glomurulus - whatever you do - just don't say...

    @glomurulus - whatever you do - just don't say Thai Phalaka smells like Sweet Siam!!! ;-)

    KSSS - This oil has gone through a few iterations over the years, but feedback seems positive with each...
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    Sticky: Welcome @Delicious Scent :) .... You seem...

    Welcome @Delicious Scent :) .... You seem strangely familiar ;-)

    There is much reading to do hereabouts........
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    Sticky: @5MeO - When I started collecting samples, I got...

    @5MeO - When I started collecting samples, I got a piece of timber (2x4) and drilled a bunch of holes in it (each hole diameter slightly larger than the vials, and about 8-10mm deep). That way all my...
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    Dusted off my Mukhallat Naqi today. This is...

    Dusted off my Mukhallat Naqi today.

    This is one of AA's early attars and still one of my favourites. Frankincense, bergamot, taif rose, oud, sandalwood and one of the best tobacco bases ever....
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    @iris&oud - The Mokokochung oil is pretty special...

    @iris&oud - The Mokokochung oil is pretty special - many layers to explore :)

    I did buy the Ghaliyah untested. I often have a good idea whether I'll like something and so make more blind buys with...
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    Ghaliyah again! I'm getting more of the...

    Ghaliyah again! I'm getting more of the agarwood with the musk and ambergris now.
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    Ok then who is going to distil Oud whiskey?

    Ok then who is going to distil Oud whiskey?
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    @Bigbloke - I got a bottle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    @Bigbloke - I got a bottle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Sticky: @Alirican2 - I have many "kyara" and agarwood...

    @Alirican2 - I have many "kyara" and agarwood incense, and as I mentioned, only one really reminds me of agarwood (Kyara). I reach for my chips when I want agarwood (or Kyara) - nothing else seems to...
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    Ghaliyah again.....really don't want to run out...

    Ghaliyah again.....really don't want to run out of this.......
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    Amouage Tribute Attar. Sublime.......

    Amouage Tribute Attar. Sublime.......
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    A little Kalbar Koh oil with Tom Ford Grey...

    A little Kalbar Koh oil with Tom Ford Grey Vetiver. I think this is working........
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    Sticky: @powdernose - I could very well be wrong. I have...

    @powdernose - I could very well be wrong. I have bought vials from proudstyle, and I have had vials of that shape I didn't like, but don't remember if those were from there. I did struggle with the...
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    Re: best tobacco scent?

    What he said :) Tribute attar and Fumerie Turque are my favorites - and both very hard to find now...
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    Sticky: @ Alirican2 - definitely small thin bits for the...

    @ Alirican2 - definitely small thin bits for the Golden Lotus. :)

    It takes longer and the scent is different, but I find the GL scents a room the best, and there are no burnt notes. Does great...
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    Sticky: Maybe a bit of clarification is needed, but I...

    Maybe a bit of clarification is needed, but I think we are allowed to post links to commercial and other sites. I think the restriction is that vendors can't use the thread to advertise or sell their...
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    I have a bottle of Karnataka (Mysore) sandalwood...

    I have a bottle of Karnataka (Mysore) sandalwood oil I purchased from Alluwah some years ago. It's actually my second bottle as I used the first up very quickly! The oil is so buttery smooth with...
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    Purana from AA. This is an older classic Hindi...

    Purana from AA. This is an older classic Hindi (4years ago?) that remains to me the best Hindi oil I have tried and in my top 5 oils. For a classic barnyard oil, it is just so smooth and delicious....
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    Sticky: Vials - I personally don't like the 1ml vials...

    Vials - I personally don't like the 1ml vials from proudstyle, as the diameter below the top narrows. I found it harder to get oils both in and out as a result, and I had a few snap off at the narrow...
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    Sticky: I think part of the problem might be: Why would...

    I think part of the problem might be: Why would you make an incense stick that smelled just like agarwood when you could just burn the wood? Incense is an art of blending different scents....
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    Sweet Siam from AA. After the recent hullabaloo...

    Sweet Siam from AA. After the recent hullabaloo from a particular quarter, I thought I'd give it another wear. This oil is aging very nicely. The boozy opening dries down to a delectable sweetness -...
  50. @GaianMind - The only way I can think of is if...

    @GaianMind - The only way I can think of is if tinctures were used, in which case there would presumably be some alcohol, but in that context.
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    Sticky: @LC - Haha I have to say, I would choose the...

    @LC - Haha I have to say, I would choose the barrel of excellent over a taste of divine! Although I might be planning to sell much of the barrel to get me some of that excellent! lol.
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    Ghaaliyah! Too good. This stuff is just...

    Ghaaliyah! Too good. This stuff is just awesome...
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    Sticky: @Recluse - Baieido make a nice premium aloeswood...

    @Recluse - Baieido make a nice premium aloeswood sampler with a stick of each: Indonesia, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam and Kyara.

    Baieido incense are lovely - but nope the kyara ones don't...
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    Sticky: @Kyarazen - Thanks for your input :) It is...

    @Kyarazen - Thanks for your input :) It is actually on the label of one of the two boxes of Yamadamatsu sticks "Indonesia". I have to say, I was wondering and thinking I would have expected it to be...
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    Sticky: @GaianMind - I think it unlikely you will...

    @GaianMind - I think it unlikely you will actually smell an approximation of Kyara in an oil, regardless of its name. I have tried many oils and have a large collection, including at times the odd...
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    Sticky: Um.. to me it looks like theworldinscents is a...

    Um.. to me it looks like theworldinscents is a reseller and has some products on sale. It appears that their usual prices for AA products are identical to those of AA. Things are always cheaper when...
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    Sticky: Agree - Subitism is by far the best and there...

    Agree - Subitism is by far the best and there isn't anything else like it. The variable power supply makes it even better than the best! Worth asking Kyarazen - just in case :)

    If you can't get...
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    Sticky: @iris&oud - the only other place for informed and...

    @iris&oud - the only other place for informed and unbiased discussion on Oud other than this thread that I am aware of is Olfactory Rescue Service. It isn't oud centred, but some very knowledgeable...
  59. @fhayat - are you looking at attars or pure oils?...

    @fhayat - are you looking at attars or pure oils? I'm asking because this is the attars thread. For attars, there are a number of great sources available, and I have not seen reviews for Ensar's...
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    Sticky: Agree with Jdhawk - Aluwwah is great quality...

    Agree with Jdhawk - Aluwwah is great quality stuff. He makes burnables and wearables. Everything I have tried of his over the years has been top notch :)
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    Sticky: @powdernose - I suspect you have some substandard...

    @powdernose - I suspect you have some substandard wood. When burning with charcoal, let it burn until there is a layer of grey ash on it, so the wood is not directly on red hot stuff. A sheet of mica...
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    Cambodi Royale today - 4 or 5 years old now from...

    Cambodi Royale today - 4 or 5 years old now from AA. Sweet berries with a little resin....mmmmmm :)
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    Sticky: I think most high end Japanese Kyara incense...

    I think most high end Japanese Kyara incense sticks contain Kyara, although not always in quantities that are detectable, Some have enough Kyara to smell it, and can be really amazing incense.

    I...
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    Cantik Candan today :)

    Cantik Candan today :)
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    The other two are Sempurna and the one starting...

    The other two are Sempurna and the one starting with the letter "k" - i can't remember how to spell it ;-0
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    Agar Supreme from AA today. Loud and clear oud...

    Agar Supreme from AA today. Loud and clear oud note going on here. This was the first of the three top shelf Malaysian oils from Taha over the past year. Not as creamy or sweet as the other two. Very...
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    Poll: Re: What's your least favorite from Creed?

    With Creeds (the vast majority of them) it comes down to whether you like the ubiquitous "creed base". SMW is mostly that base. If you really like the "creed base" then you probably think Creed is...
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    I'm wearing some of an old limited distillation...

    I'm wearing some of an old limited distillation of Oud Kalbar from AA. This one stands out as the most powdery of all oud oils I have tried. Lovely soft florals and a non-vanilla sweetness juxtaposed...
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    Re: Fruity opening, woods in the drydown

    OMG what a great list so far!

    A lot in this vein I haven't tried yet mentioned ........ and one obvious one of course - already tried that....
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    Poll: Re: What's your least favorite from Creed?

    GIT for me - it wears on me as a sharp chemical mess - awful. I am aware of it's popularity though, and I keep trying it year after year to see if I'm missing something. I'm now convinced I'm not...
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    Kalbar Koh again for me today. Had a young woman...

    Kalbar Koh again for me today. Had a young woman at work compliment me on how good I smell - I know! ;-)
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    Sticky: With the prevalence of touchscreens on computers...

    With the prevalence of touchscreens on computers these days, it is only a matter of time before we can bring back the scratch 'n sniff books in the new media. Oud sellers take note! I want to scratch...
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    Histories De Parfum Amber 114 - very clean and...

    Histories De Parfum Amber 114 - very clean and delicious amber fragrance. Yep - no oud! :)
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    Sticky: That does sound interesting, but I still get...

    That does sound interesting, but I still get confused around the terminology. "Vintage" means wild?, as "organic" means cultivated, and "kyara" and "kinam" mean...??? Other than that, it sounds like...
  75. I bought Caffe Ambre Noir from Sultan Pasha -...

    I bought Caffe Ambre Noir from Sultan Pasha - coffee and amber with some ambergris and vanilla. It is currently flying itself across the globe to be with me in Australia. Really looking forward to...
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    Today I'm wearing Kalbar Koh from AA. This is a...

    Today I'm wearing Kalbar Koh from AA. This is a great sweet yet ethereal Borneo that is both uplifting and comforting. Can't ask for much more than that :)
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    Today I'm wearing Royal Assam from Agaraura. A...

    Today I'm wearing Royal Assam from Agaraura. A great low barn Hindi. Not no barn mind you, There is leather and a nice toffee and bitter chocolate accord, with an indefinable fruitiness. Awesome :)
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    Re: Creed Queries & Discussions.

    I have found that Aventus has very little fruitiness and is just a fairly light ashy woody smell when sprayed on skin. However, as you reported, when sprayed on cloth, the fruitiness (fake pineapple)...
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    Sticky: Hey @syncope - ! Thanks for the links! It looks...

    Hey @syncope - ! Thanks for the links! It looks like they are actually giving proportions but it is called "fragrance profile" rather than ingredients, so you're right - you can't really tell much at...
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    Sticky: @syncope - That is very interesting. Do ASAQ...

    @syncope - That is very interesting.

    Do ASAQ state that they use young oils to mix with older ones - and if so, in those proportions?

    Otherwise - how would we really know? It is impossible to...
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    Sticky: Yes :) And i recommend people grab some bargains...

    Yes :)
    And i recommend people grab some bargains from Oudimentary and stash them for 10 to 20 years!
    Seriously though, some mediocre oils I purchased 3 or 4 years ago are now pretty awesome. I...
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    Sticky: Yep - all valid points :) I was able to get a...

    Yep - all valid points :)

    I was able to get a collection going when oils were a bit cheaper, and now I am more selective and buy less. I also value the interactions and only deal with those I have...
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    Sticky: There have always been very expensive high end...

    There have always been very expensive high end oils, and there have always been some that are overpriced too. This has been the case for a long time. However, I take much heart from some of the great...
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    Sticky: 30% off is pretty cool :)

    30% off is pretty cool :)
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    Sticky: @fungasamungus - Yes what you say about this site...

    @fungasamungus - Yes what you say about this site and the changes that occurred a few years ago meant we lost most of the really valuable contributors. Some of us do know just what happened and it...
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    Sticky: @blade_922 - I don't think so. There are a couple...

    @blade_922 - I don't think so. There are a couple of sites with some reviews of some oils, but of the two I'm aware of - one is run by a particular merchant so is focused on that merchant and their...
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    Sticky: @blade_922 - Nah you want to slather this one on!...

    @blade_922 - Nah you want to slather this one on! ;-)
    I look forward to reading your thoughts :)
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    Sticky: @blade_922 - I find Hindi Brut to have good...

    @blade_922 - I find Hindi Brut to have good sillage and longevity. I apply it when I get home from work, as I work in very close proximity to people so can only wear unobtrusive scents. HB stays...
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    Sticky: @blade_992 - Hehe sounds like that's settled then...

    @blade_992 - Hehe sounds like that's settled then :)

    I haven't tried Ensar's one, but as you know - I love Hindi Brut - so I hope you're happy with it :)
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    Sticky: @syncope - I find Papuan and Borneo oils to be...

    @syncope - I find Papuan and Borneo oils to be quite different. Papuan oils are generally much more earthy and hum at a lower register, while Borneo's are more ethereal, even if they have darker,...
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    Sticky: @syncope - I would recommend a Borneo oil if you...

    @syncope - I would recommend a Borneo oil if you don't have any in your collection. The scent profile will be quite different to those from the areas you already have. Yep for the best value awesome...
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    Sticky: Hey @blade_922 - If you like Hindi oils, a great...

    Hey @blade_922 - If you like Hindi oils, a great option is Hindi Brut from Agaraura - I ended up buying a tola of it. Really nice old school Hindi with a lovely caramel twist that sets it apart. I've...
  93. @Star Code - Sultan Pasha sells through ebay as...

    @Star Code - Sultan Pasha sells through ebay as scents-rarity.
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    Sticky: Hey @syncope - I have a large collection of oils...

    Hey @syncope - I have a large collection of oils (30+ bottles), and the best oils and experiences for me are:

    1. Agaraura
    2. Oudimentary
    3. Feeloud

    Some of the others mentioned I have dealt...
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    Nuh was a really nice oil. One of the early...

    Nuh was a really nice oil. One of the early low-barnyard type Hindi's. I finished mine off a couple of years ago :(
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    I'm wearing Manipura today on my birthday. A very...

    I'm wearing Manipura today on my birthday. A very special Hindi oil with some fruit, caramel and tobacco, and that slow rumbling base note of a great Hindi oil :)
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    Sticky: @Thomas.s - haha - FBW means full bottle worthy....

    @Thomas.s - haha - FBW means full bottle worthy. :)
  98. Hi Tarik. John Steele Mitti Attar: This is...

    Hi Tarik.
    John Steele Mitti Attar: This is unlike any other fragrance I have tried. At first I mainly got a really nice sandalwood and wondered what I should be smelling. Next time I tried it really...
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    Sticky: Good to see that the vendors keep up with this...

    Good to see that the vendors keep up with this thread. It is after all The Official Oud Forum! :thumbsup:
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    Sticky: @pearl - good call! I like the 1ml option a lot...

    @pearl - good call! I like the 1ml option a lot :)

    I'm pretty sure I didn't pay postage for the smaller samples (0.2g), so the proportional price difference was absorbed just fine. I have never...
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