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  1. Thread: Sweet ionone

    by Milhaus
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    Sweet ionone

    Hi,
    please what is the sweetest ionone ? From i have here - alpha, beta and methyl ionone 70%,methyl ionone 90% and dihydro beta ionone is the methyl ionone 70% the sweetest one.
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    Re: Input on making a green floral scent?

    try something like this - i have not smelled it yet:

    Lyral : 3.00
    Hedione : 10.00
    Iso E Super : 10.00
    Galaxolide : 10.00
    Methyl Ionone, alpha-iso- : 10.00
    Linalool/rosewood : 5.00
    Amyl...
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    Re: Input on making a green floral scent?

    Lyral for example
  4. Thread: Orris resinoid

    by Milhaus
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    Orris resinoid

    Hi,
    i am looking for content analysis of Orris resinoid.
  5. Thread: Alpha irone

    by Milhaus
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    Alpha irone

    Hi,
    i have just received alpha irone from PerfumersWorld, but i am little puzzled with the smell. The smell is weak ( my Orris butter with 3% irones is much stronger ) reminiscent dry alpha methyl...
  6. Re: Methyl heptine carbonate methyl octine carbonate

    Please how much Undecavertol can i use to replace 0.5% M.H.C. ?
    IFF Methyl Octine Carbonate Replacer 0912 is very hard to get like Parmone which i cannot find anywhere.
  7. Re: Methyl heptine carbonate methyl octine carbonate

    Thanks David they probably forget to add dilution ( 5% of 10%M.H.C. sound much better )
  8. Methyl heptine carbonate methyl octine carbonate

    Hi,
    i need to replace M.H.C.( 5% in formula ) with M.O.C. in one old formula , but i have no clue how strong is M.H.C in comparison to M.O.C.
  9. Thread: Jasmin 50

    by Milhaus
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    Re: Jasmin 50

    Thanks,
    i have checked Bois de Iles formula and i have nearly everything except true sandalwood EO ( 14% sounds pretty much, also with vetiveryl acetate at the same concentration ). I will try to...
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    Re: home made Molecule 01

    Hi,
    i have just compared Timbersilk with ISO E super... Timbersilk is IMHO strong harsh woody note piercing my nose and i dont like it in higher concentrations( >1%). ISO E super is nice...
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    Re: Living Jasmine Accord

    Hi,
    PerfumersWorld supply linalool( linalool with citrus and woody notes ) and linalool synthetic ( pure linalool smell ) and they have also Ho oil ( but i afraid the camphor note will kill the...
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    Neryl - Geranyl acetate

    Hi,
    is there a difference between neryl and geranyl acetate ?
  13. Thread: Jasmin 50

    by Milhaus
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    Re: Jasmin 50

    Thanks,
    i am now trying to prepare 5 different Appell formula i have selected ( Evening in Paris, Femme, Cabochard, Je Reviens, Fleurs d Amour ). Anyone have tried to prepare them ? They are mostly...
  14. Thread: Jasmin 50

    by Milhaus
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    Re: Jasmin 50

    Hi Paul,
    because i dont have formula :) Where could i find it ( i dont have whole book ) ?
  15. Thread: Jasmin 50

    by Milhaus
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    Jasmin 50

    Hi,
    please what can be used to replace Jasmin 50 ( appell formula ).
  16. Thread: Chypre

    by Milhaus
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    Chypre

    Hi,
    please i am looking for any IFRA compliant chypre base formula ...
  17. Thread: Musk ketone

    by Milhaus
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    Re: Musk ketone

    OK i will stay away from such high concentration. I think it is very difficult to prove that Chanel No 5 triggered cancer ...
  18. Thread: Musk ketone

    by Milhaus
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    Musk ketone

    Hi,
    i am trying to prepare old perfume with 4% of musk ketone. Please it is safe to use such amount of musk ketone (for private use) in perfume ?
  19. Thread: Deer musk pods

    by Milhaus
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    Re: Deer musk pods

    I have just tried synthetic Deer musk from Auram ( Arcadi ).Smelling directly from bottle: I dont know if i love it or hate it - it does smell fecally, but with something sweet and pleasant. Even...
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    Re: How to create rose soliflore

    Thanks Paul,
    i would like to try this accord ( i think it is worth a try ), but i dont have currently neryl acetate and Liffarome. It will be fine to have something different than commercial...
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    Re: How to create rose soliflore

    Thanks !

    i have just started with this formula:

    10 Dorinia SA E
    1 Rose de Mai
    1 Rose Otto
    3 PEA
    3 geranium oil Bourbon - for freshness
    5 ambrettolide
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    Re: Orris Root CO2 solubility

    Thanks :) ,
    i have cheap sources of orris root CO2 3%irones ( 20€/10g ) and alpha irone for around 40€/10g.
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    Re: Orris Root CO2 solubility

    I will answer myself: 50% concentration of Orris root CO2 (3% irones) with IPM does work well.
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    How to create rose soliflore

    Hi,
    i would like to create rose soliflore perfume, but i have no clue how to start....

    My first idea:
    around 4% rose otto + rose de mai
    ?% syntehtic rose ( i have Dorinia SA E i have no clue...
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    Re: Velvione killing my vetiver

    Hi i dont have any experince with Velvione but i have similar experience with Galaxolide which mask woody top notes.
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    Re: Materials Wishlist

    Hi saponier,
    you can also try Ambermax (ambery-woody) http://www.hermitageoils.com/ambermax-50 or here http://cgherbals.com/aromatic-isolates/ambermax-50-dowanol-tpm/p-7814780-17921505370-cat.html
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    Orris Root CO2 solubility

    Hi,
    please what is the best solvent for Orris Root CO2 ( Orris butter ) ?


    BTW: i have found answer from Chris - IPM. But what is the maximum concentration ?

    Milos
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    Re: home made Molecule 01

    BTW: Molecule 01 is ISO gamma super, not ISO E super
  29. Thread: Freesia accord

    by Milhaus
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    Re: Freesia accord

    Please exists any good fixative for freesia/linalool ( Hedione, Civet )? I have tried Ambrettolide and it is better.
  30. Thread: Freesia accord

    by Milhaus
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    Freesia accord

    Hi,
    i have created simple freesia accord from GC headspace and then adjusted to my nose :

    88 linalool
    5 dihydro ionone beta
    4 ionone beta
    3 alpha terpineol
    0.3 geraniol
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    Re: Chanel No 5 Formula

    Hi Bernhard:
    Die kosmetischen Preparate, 4. Auflage, Die Parf¸merie, grundlagen der Kompositionstechnik
    Autor: G.A. Nowak
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    Re: Hedione and Sandalwood

    I have no idea how smell Must De Cartier ( it does contain equal amounts of Hedione,Galaxolide and Sandalwood like in my accord ).
    According fragrantica.com it's woody fragrance, so I'm surprised...
  33. Ionone alpha "white coeur" vs ionone alpha

    Hi,
    Can anyone compare the difference between ionone alpha "white coeur" and ionone alpha ? I dont have pure ionone alpha here but i guess it is more floral/violet and "white coeur" is woody.
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    Re: Hedione and Sandalwood

    Hi i have tried:
    1 Hedione
    1 Galaxolide
    1 sandalwood synthetic base

    i have obtained nice green tea accord :) It is interesting Must De Cartier use such accord which create 40% of the perfume (...
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    Hedione and Sandalwood

    Hi,
    i have tried to add Hedione to my woody accord, but i have found it totally ruined it ( sandalwood scent disappeared , animalic/tar notes was amplified ). Have you observed someone also such...
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    Re: Aging perfume concentrate

    Thank you very much, i will try to use clear bottles and place them under UV lamp to speed up the process.
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    Re: Aging perfume concentrate

    Yes, i am sorry for my english :(
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    Aging perfume concentrate

    Hi,
    please does age diluted perfume concentrate ( in alcohol ) much faster than perfume concentrate ?
  39. Re: What are some of the most minimalist perfumes you've created?

    You can create also nice woody perfume from combination :
    Sandalwood
    Cedarwood
    ISO E super
    Oakmoss
    Musk - any musk you like ( little amount of Okoumal, ambrettollide etc. )

    I love this...
  40. Re: What are some of the most minimalist perfumes you've created?

    Hi i have tried Pentachord white,
    http://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/Tauer-Perfumes/Pentachords-White-12728.html

    found somewhere the recipe:

    vanillin 6%
    alpha-ionone 24%
    alpha-irone 15%
    Iso...
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    Re: How to tame patchouli

    I am probably sensitive too. I have killed all my Channel No.5 formulas whenever i have used more than 0.5% of patchouli. I am now using about 0.1-0.2% to create acceptable "earthy background". It is...
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    How to tame patchouli

    Hi,
    please what can be used to tame patchouli ? I have created simple chypre accord:

    4 bergamot
    1 neroli abs

    1 jasmine abs

    5 sandalwood
    5 ISO E Super
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    Re: Gamma Methyl Ionone

    Dont belive sellers :) I have requested MSDS from the India seller you have mentioned , i bet they dont know difference between these isomers.
    Your latest url say everything.
    Short citation from...
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    Re: Gamma Methyl Ionone

    No they are not the same:

    1-Penten-3-one, 1-(2,6,6-trimethyl-2-cyclohexen-1-yl) (alpha-methylionone isomer)
    1-Penten-3-one, 1-(2,6,6-trimethyl-1-cyclohexen-1-yl) (beta-methylionone isomer)...
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    Re: Gamma Methyl Ionone

    Are you really sure David ?

    IFF:
    METHYL IONONE GAMMA A CAS 127-51-5
    3-methyl-4-(2,6,6-trimethyl-2-cyclohexen-1-yl)-3-buten-2-one (isomers)

    METHYL IONONE GAMMA COEUR CAS 127-51-5...
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    Re: Gamma Methyl Ionone

    Yes of course David. Purified does not mean pure :) Main component of Methyl ionone gamma is Methyl ionone alpha iso . I doubt there is gamma isomer, maybe in trace amounts...
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    Re: Gamma Methyl Ionone

    BTW: Methyl ionone gamma from PA is purified Methyl ionone alpha iso alias Isoraldeine. I doubt you will find real gamma isomer somewhere.
  48. Thread: Suede leather

    by Milhaus
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    Suede leather

    Hi,
    please how to create "suede leather" base note similar to "Vers la Violette" ?
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    Jasmine absolute - synthetic

    Hi,
    i would like to replace jasmine absolute in my first experiments with much cheaper synthetic jasmine. Anyone have experience with synthetic "Jasmine absolute" from ShivaExports or "Jasmine...
  50. Thread: Viola odorata

    by Milhaus
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    Re: Viola odorata

    Thanks guys ,
    here is my latest perfume formula resembling smell of Viola odorata flower - still far away from something wearable :( Any hints welcomed .

    5 Bergamot
    1 orange oil
    1 mandarin oil...
  51. Thread: Viola odorata

    by Milhaus
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    Re: Viola odorata

    Hi,
    thanks gecko, i already have 0.1% of oakmoss abs there. I know about 3 different GC MS of Viola odorata and each of them is totally different.
    ...
  52. Thread: Viola odorata

    by Milhaus
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    Viola odorata

    Hi,
    i am trying to create scent similar to Viola odorata, but i am still missing "something" in my perfume. Everything i have created is like Parma/Victoria violet more than Viola odorata. Viola...
  53. Thread: Musk

    by Milhaus
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    Re: Musk

    Thanks, combination of both could be interesting. I have ordered Ambrettolide from PW, but they does not have Cosmone :(.
  54. Thread: Musk

    by Milhaus
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    Musk

    Hi,
    can you please recommend me floral / ambery musk which blend well with Benzoin Siam/Labdanum/orris ?
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    Re: Violet accord - i am lost

    Please someone uses beta ionone in violet flower perfume and in what concentration ?
    Nearly in all Violet formulas i have found is beta ionone completely omited, but Givaudan say it is ...
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    Patchouli aging

    Hi,
    i have bought Patchouli HEART CO2 (SELECT) from hemitageoils. Because i hate patchouli earth/dirty note ( but i love patchouli in David Beckham Signature and many other perfumes ) i would like...
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    Re: Perfumer's World

    Yes i am buying AC from them. They does not have big shipping costs / like any other suppliers around 30$. I have read their Hydroxycitronellal is not good, but i am satisfied with most of their...
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    Re: The Power of Aging Fragrances

    I agree,
    for example ionones ( mostly beta and alpha, methyl ionones are better ) in violet accord/perfume are very harsh. After 3 months become more and more friendly. The same way work aldehydes...
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    Storage of perfumes in plastic vials

    Hi,
    because i have plenty of HDPE and LDPE vials i would like to use them for storage of my perfumes/concentrates ? I have no idea whether the plastic can affect the smell ...
  60. Thread: Good heliotope

    by Milhaus
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    Re: Good heliotope

    Check this formula:
    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/371960-Heliotrope-accord?p=3013334&viewfull=1#post3013334
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    Ambergris oliffac

    Hi,
    i have just received Ambergris Oliffac, it remind me Civet CNC with vanilla nuance. Do you have any example formula with Ambergris Oliffac please ?

    regards
    Milos
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    Re: Chanel No 5 Formula

    PA formula uses 50 parts/drops of patchouli at 1%=0.5 parts/drops at 100% that is true. BUT this formula contain 1000 parts/drops !!! So my calculation 0.05% is correct.
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    Re: Protecting Aldehydes

    undiluted C12-L is solid/white at room temperature and become liquid/transparent at around 40C
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    Re: Chanel No 5 Formula

    Hi Jeroen,
    please 1 drop of Patchouli is correct in your formula ? I have tried it , but it is too much..In original P.A. formula above is only 0.05% of patchouli.
    Also my vetiver oil dominate in...
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    Re: Chanel No 5 Formula

    Hi Jeroen,
    do you mean orris absolute, not violet absolute in your formula ?
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    Re: Chanel No 5 Formula

    Your unit contain probably a relay ( switched by internal timer ) that can be bypassed by an external switch for continuous operation. Then you will add mechanical timer switch like this...
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    Re: Chanel No 5 Formula

    Please could you share power and frequency of your unit ? I have 50w / 40KHz unit with 30min timer. I will replace internal timer with my own infinity timer ( 30min on / 30min off - to cool down the...
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    Re: Chanel No 5 Formula

    Thanks !
    i will check it after 2/3 months. I will also try short ultrasonic bath.
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    Re: Chanel No 5 Formula

    Hi,
    i have just prepared the Perfumer’s Apprentice formula, but i think it is too soapy ( tested at 10% dilution ). There is overkill of C 12 MNA.
    I have found another simplified recipe, which...
  70. Thread: Ylang Ylang

    by Milhaus
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    Ylang Ylang

    Hi,
    i have prepared one aldehydic perfume which contain 37% of ylang-ylang EO. Even after a week of aging still smell too narcotic. It is possible that the smell will improve over time to acceptable...
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    Re: Perfumers' apprentice Marine Accord

    As you can see, this is base accord only:

    Hedione - (very light all-around enhancer) - 58
    Galaxolide 50% (musk) 28
    Iso e super (smooth woody amber - velvety) 8
    Habanolide (sweet musk) - 6 ...
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    Beckham signature for her - musk

    Hi,
    please anybody know what musk is used in this perfume ?
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    Re: Violet accord - i am lost

    Please help,
    i am not sure if there is a typo but 0,37% of cucumber aldehyde sound extremely strong. In most cases is cucumber aldehyde used at 0.001%. It is possible that gas chromatography is...
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    Re: Swap - cucumber aldehyde wanted

    Yes there are lot of suppliers, but they sell minimum 5g for 150$ or more + postage + 20-25% importing tax to EU ( ~250$ total for 5g ). This is good price, but i dont need such huge amount. I need...
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    Re: Violet accord - i am lost

    DrSmellThis:
    yes i agree , this is why i am trying to create my own real Violet accord.
    I am giving here the main components from analysis above. Some components like 2',2''- dihydro alpha ionone...
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    Re: Chanel No 5 Formula

    Hi,
    i am trying to replicate formula posted by Chris Bartlett, but i cannot find Animalid. It is possible to substitute Animalid/Musk tincture with Muscone ( i guess 1%-4% of Muscone in concentrate...
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    Re: Swap - cucumber aldehyde wanted

    Yes i know this site, but minimal order 50GBP is too much, because i really need only this one AC.
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    Swap - cucumber aldehyde wanted

    Hi,
    i am looking for trans-2, cis-6- nonadienal alias cucumber aldehyde ( small amount ). I can offer small amount of other aroma chemicals, or buy it from you.
  79. Thread: Aldehydes

    by Milhaus
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    Re: Aldehydes

    Thanks Jeroen,
    that is pretty low concentration, commonly i am starting with 1 drop of 1% C12 L.I will try it.
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    Re: Tonka bean in ethanol

    Yes Paul, i mean Tonka Bean Absolute. I will try 25% solution.Thanks.
  81. Thread: Aldehydes

    by Milhaus
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    Re: Aldehydes

    Thanks David, i will try it.
  82. Thread: Aldehydes

    by Milhaus
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    Aldehydes

    Hi,
    i am trying to create masculine woody / citrusy / orange flower perfume. Could you please help me which aldehydes are suitable for my perfume ?

    here is formula ( not rounded to 100% ):

    4...
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    Tonka bean in ethanol

    Hi,
    please, it is good idea to dissolve tonka bean in 96%ethanol ? I dont have DPG available now.
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    Re: Violet accord - i am lost

    According to this analysis i have selected AC for violet flower:

    9% ionones ( mostly alpha ionone and 7,8 dihydro Beta ionone)

    0.37% Cucumber aldehyde
    0.23% leaf acetate
    1.87% Aldehyde C9...
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    Re: Violet accord - i am lost

    I know little Russian so i dont have trouble to read it.
    I recommend to use google translator for others.
    There are plenty of other chromatograph analysis :
    http://viness.narod.ru/az.htm
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    Re: Violet accord - i am lost

    Hi,
    i have found interesting site http://viness.narod.ru/violac.htm
  87. Thread: Ambroxan price

    by Milhaus
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    Ambroxan price

    Hi ,
    please how much does cost Ambroxan per gram, i cannot find it anywhere ?
  88. Thread: Tamariscol

    by Milhaus
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    Tamariscol

    Hi,
    please i am looking for a small sample of this AC.
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    Re: Violet accord - i am lost

    Hi,
    i have just sniffed my violet accords prepared with different ionones ( alpha, beta, methyl and gamma 95 ) after 2 months of aging. The smell of ionones in accords is now much better.

    Here...
  90. Thread: Benzyl acetate

    by Milhaus
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    Re: Benzyl acetate

    perfumersworld.com citation:
    Blender: A material that helps link and harmonize disparate basics and blenders, rounds or smoothes the perfume.


    For example civet is well known to round/harmonise...
  91. Thread: Benzyl acetate

    by Milhaus
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    Re: Benzyl acetate

    Also HCA hexyl cinnamic aldehyde is used as blender .
  92. Thread: Benzyl acetate

    by Milhaus
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    Benzyl acetate

    Hi,
    i have trouble with benzyl acetate when creating accords. The smell is pretty strong and unpleasant ( like acetone ) for me and overcharge the remaining components even at 1%. Maybe it needs...
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    Heliotrope accord

    Hi,
    i am looking for Heliotrope accord formula. I have following idea :

    500 Heliotropin replacer 50%
    150 Vanillin 10%
    20 Anisic aldehyde
    20 Geraniol, Java ( or Rhodinol )
    10 Rose otto...
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    Re: Violet accord - i am lost

    Look here:...
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    Re: Violet accord - i am lost

    Thanks for tips.
    Now i am testing 9 different versions of violet accord.

    I have also tried to prepare Poucher Violet Perfume:
    100 Parma violet
    40 Victoria violet
    5 cassie absolute
    1 rose otto...
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    Re: Christmas scent - please share

    Thanks David,
    i have tried to add fir or pine EOs, but i dont like them, because they does not smell like real tree...i have no clue why ( maybe i have bad source of EOs ? ). I will try to use pine...
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    Re: Christmas scent - please share

    Because the scent is very strong for first 30 minutes and then disappear quickly. I think they could reduce evaporation at beginning ( reduce strong unpleasant odour ) and the scent will last longer.
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    Christmas scent - please share

    Hi,
    please share your favorite Christmas scents here ( potpourri, oil burners ):

    i have prepared this classic combination for oil burner:

    5 Cinnamon EO
    3 Clove EO
    3 Star Anise EO
    5 Orange...
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    Re: Violet accord - i am lost

    Hi Chris,
    thank you very much for hints , please could you tell me how much Verdilyn do you use in Violet accord ( if not secret ) ? I dont have Verdilyn, but from i have found, it is pretty strong...
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    Re: Violet accord - i am lost

    In the post above Paul Killer has mentioned Violet formula where Violet leaf absolute is used in 8% concentration. That is pretty much.To prepare 5ml of Violet concentrate i need about 0,4ml of 100%...
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