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  1. Re: Newbie revisiting botanical musk accord and inviting critique

    Hyraceum, can be as hard as a stone, my stock from South Africa must be broken with a big hammer, preferably a 5lb sledge, as a regular framing hammer gets laughed at by the hyraceum.

    As for a...
  2. Re: Newbie revisiting botanical musk accord and inviting critique

    I can't see why Hyraceum is not Vegan. Nor Beeswax either. They are products OF the organism, NOT the organism.
    So do Vegans outlaw pollenation, because it is a product of an organism?
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    Re: Just a Huge Thank you

    :beer: Obrigado to you too...
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    Re: Fixatives, preservatives and uv protectors

    David, I asked him to pay for my time, when he keeps asking question after question, seeking the magic bullet, and how to remake a perfume he bought that he doesn't like.

    Knaqsim, Time is money...
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    Re: Sandalwood Oliffac A 8009 Depr 0707

    Here's what I can tell you. I have had two sample bottles, one I think was labelled as in DEP, and the second sample bottle, marked Sandalwood oliffac, sans numbers. But I had seen from the catalog...
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    Re: How does one pronounce calone ?

    Cal as in California
    one as in own
    is how I pronounce it, and could be wrong of course... ;-)
    PK
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    Re: Rose Synthetics and Bases - a compilation

    Cetylia is more a strong rose with somewhat fruity aspects, kind of like some fresh roses... Since I had a Cetylia glass bottle spontaneously break in my old lab, you just have to walk into my...
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    Re: Bulgarian Rose Confusion

    I always thought that the attars were distilled products INTO the substrate, in some cases, real sandalwood oil. (And sometimes, co-distilled too) Not so much catching vapors, but actual drops of...
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    Re: Aftelier Agarwood Oil?

    Yes Chris, By all means, Agarwood oil improves with age/time.

    PK
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    Re: Making a spray from a designer oil

    Perfume concentrate IS an oil.
    You make perfume by adding alcohol to the oil at your desired concentration level. You now have a sprayable perfume liquid.

    PK
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    Re: Bulgarian Rose Confusion

    Oil and Otto are the same, a steam distilled product.

    PK
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    Re: New here, diy mens scent and shopping

    If you choose to add vanilla, add in in very small amounts.
    Vanilla seems to have "babies" when you blend it, and it amps up easily.

    PK
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    Re: Aftelier Agarwood Oil?

    From what I see, from Oud wood sellers, and oud distillers, I see them painstakingly cutting off the uninfected wood from whatever larger portion/log/branch, to leave only the oil and infected...
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    Re: New here, diy mens scent and shopping

    Musky spicy is a good place to start.

    PK
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    Re: Order of ingredients - mixing

    Maltol and Ethyl Maltol are notorious for solving.
    Benzoin should likely be diluted, if you do not already buy it so.

    All of the resinoids would make life easier if they are diluted.

    PK
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    Re: Aftelier Agarwood Oil?

    Bark? Hmm, I've not heard of bark becoming infected to make oud oil, I've only seen the wood portion... Maybe new, maybe incorrect... needs more investigation....
    PK
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    Re: Aftelier Agarwood Oil?

    As far as I know, a tree is completely cut down to extract the infected portion that produces the oud oil, and reharvesting from another part of the tree, or regrowth of the tree is not what actually...
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    Re: Sandalwood Oliffac A 8009 Depr 0707

    There is no magic bullet Sandalwood Oliffac match to real beautiful natural sandalwood, and available as a prebuilt base.

    But this Sandalwood Oliffac A 8009 Depr 0707 is useful as a part of a...
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    Re: Benzyl Salicylate Question

    Ditto...
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    Re: Order of ingredients - mixing

    I am more of the mind that the sequence stated has more to do with adding ingredients in to a blend, similarly cake baking, so that the dry ingredients don't get stuck to the bottom, and hard to...
  21. Re: Anyone tried this crimping tool? First ever perfume finished with a crimped bottle......

    Thanks Javier for the testimony, and price guideline idea. Likely myself and a client are in the market for these devices.

    PK
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    Re: Aftelier Agarwood Oil?

    I have not yet purchased a supply of buaya/bouya agarwood to work with, I have only received samples from a supplier. It is much more traditionally woody, than more oudy. But also, I have been...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    I think Alysoun is correct in how the roundings work...
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    Re: Aftelier Agarwood Oil?

    There is a more sustainable and inexpensive version of agarwood labelled as "Buaya", or something similar. It is kind of a second, a poor mans agarwood. While I have not smelled her stock here in...
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    Re: Building around an Accord

    Iweigh 101 scale.
    www.oldwillknottscales.com
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    My First stab is going well...

    May need a touch more of honeysuckle or something a bit sweeter...
    Since it is already more dry than sweet

    The blend is using a first time use material for me,...
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    Re: phenylhexanol vs Phenylethyl alcohol

    Phenylhexanol, AKA Mefrosol...

    Rose without the sweetness of PEA, and in a slightly diff direction.

    Arcadi says Mefrosol = Diffusion.

    I like Mefrosol a lot, and use it a lot. Also, I don't...
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    Re: l-Muscone from Firmenich

    Maybe I said the wrong thing, or assumed differently than true, sorry...

    PK
  29. Re: Looking for a sealed bottle of Djedi? Look no more!

    After having two gcms done on Djedi, it is likely 50% vetiver.
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    Re: Mesquite As A Perfume Ingredient?

    Mesquite wood, yes, I have an extraction of mesquite smoke to use...

    PK
  31. Re: Safety of essential oils - natural perfumery

    Robert Tisserand is the MAN, in my opinion.
    http://roberttisserand.com/essential-oil-safety-book-second-edition/

    THAT'S THE BOOK...

    PK
  32. Re: Safety of essential oils - natural perfumery

    The safety concern is the same as what is inside the perfume, for allergenic and skin safety, the same as for all other perfumes types. This is basic safety that should be exercised by every type of...
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    Re: Orris Absolute and sunrisebotanics.com

    Since I've met the Biolandes reps several times at the Natural Products Expo, in Anaheim, and found them to be just terrific, I strongly recommend a phone call to your reps for the info you want...PK
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    Re: Mesquite As A Perfume Ingredient?

    Mesquite powder, just like powdered sawdust?
    I just struggled to view their website that is not working well.
    I think I saw that they are using the bean pods for the powdered product.

    I don't...
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    Re: l-Muscone from Firmenich

    Talking with Susan at Creatingperfume.com, she says that she just is getting in the muscone. Poke her and see what she's got now...

    PK
  36. Thread: Jasmine Flexile

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    Re: Jasmine Flexile

    I'm a member of Research Gate, and now Pub Med, and now another, JOVE, and all that I can seem to get is an abstract, sorry. So I wrote to the Scientist at Symrise Asia. We'll see if he responds...
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    Re: Ambreine Samuelson

    Both Commercial clients.

    One is the first in the start of a new line of scents. (With the possibility of return business, presumably) She wants to make a line of Perfumes her new business.
    The...
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    Re: Ambreine Samuelson

    Only Alcohol based scents at present...
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    Re: Ambreine Samuelson

    Yes Thanks, Got one commission last night, and another this morning Two brand new customers,, WOOHOO!

    PK
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    Re: My new portable perfumer's organ

    Excellent work!

    Hope that you enjoy it and it is very useful!

    PK
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    Re: Ambreine Samuelson

    I wish I had the time, and had these formulas indexed so that I could find the ambreine bases on these books, and make some comments...

    I know that Verley worked for Coty too, and so it's possible...
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    Re: Orris Absolute and sunrisebotanics.com

    I looked over their site, and I would surmise that they are buying the products called absolutes and essential oils of very precious materials, that are faked and sold on the Lala Pragdish Prasad...
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    So, Question on figuring the percentages of IFRA requirements...

    If a material states that for category #3, the amount in the finished product is to be no more than 0.11%
    And the Perfume would be...
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    Re: Arctander Perfume and Flavor Chemicals

    So, with it already copied, I would take my books(copies) to the copy store, and tell them to tear apart my books, copy them, and then put them all (back) together into book format, like mine is now....
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    Re: Ambreine Samuelson

    Sounds like it's an ambreine base...?

    PK
  46. Thread: Rosinol cryst

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    Re: Rosinol cryst

    Calling the right office, like the NYC creative center, I've been able to get someone on the phone...
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    Re: Arctander Perfume and Flavor Chemicals

    Do I need to take orders?
    How many copies do I get made?

    PK
  48. Thread: Rosinol cryst

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    Re: Rosinol cryst

    I take it that you have not called Firmenich?
  49. Thread: Civet question

    by pkiler
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    Re: Civet question

    I got this sign for my new Lab...

    http://www.basenotes.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=39719&stc=1
  50. Thread: Civet question

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    Re: Civet question

    I can't even imagine that Jasmine 231 has the real deal Civet in it, in any form...

    As it happens I have been studying intensely the makeup of civet odors.
    It is the stinky part that shows up...
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    Re: Arctander Perfume and Flavor Chemicals

    Ebay item ended June 30. Write them and ask about it now:...
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    Re: Arctander Perfume and Flavor Chemicals

    Arctander, Steffen
    Perfume and Flavor Chemicals (Aroma Chemicals) Volume I A - J
    $289.62

    Hardcover, ISBN 0931710375
    Publisher: Allured Publishing, 1994
    Used. Hardcover. GUTER ZUSTAND. A - J...
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    Re: Where to Smell Ingredients

    Yes, Chris has a great idea... The Health food stores like whole foods sometimes have many lines of essential oils sold, I've seen as many as eight different lines in a store, and they usually all...
  54. Re: Has anyone else got the book Le Livre Du Parfumeur?

    This is what I do for those books that are problematic in ownership of a physical copy. Ownership problems are not always cost issues but also availability and also editions of limited copies...
  55. Re: Has anyone else got the book Le Livre Du Parfumeur?

    I see a few copies at these prices:
    1998 ed. $100
    1947 ed. $200
    1931 ed. $300-ish


    PK
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    Re: Cyclamol? What is it called now?

    Thanks Chris, really interesting... :-)
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    Re: Cyclamol? What is it called now?

    Here's more notes by the retired perfumer who knew, he responded over the course of several emails, so below is some duplicate text, but some I have edited out to post here:


    "Quick answer: must...
  58. Re: Has anyone else got the book Le Livre Du Parfumeur?

    Thought I did, but no...

    PK
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    Re: Cyclamol? What is it called now?

    Yes, confirmed that Cyclamol is Cyclamen Alcohol.
    Albeit it that it's olfactory importance is limited, and can be replaced.

    Cyclamol is at 6% of a Hydroxyctronellal replacer formula.

    Quoting...
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    Re: Thanks for your help!

    EXCELLENTE! Is that you on the far right at :30 seconds? :-)
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    Re: Cyclamol? What is it called now?

    What about Cyclamen Alcohol...?
    Since Cyclamal is Cyclamen Aldehyde, why not Cyclamol as the corresponding alcohol...?

    PK
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    Re: Cyclamol? What is it called now?

    The Formula line is actually notated as such: 2 - Cyclamol - Verona

    So, Verona is the Supplier, and Cyclamol is the compound, most assuredly a base.

    It's all in a formula for compound called...
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    Re: Cyclamol? What is it called now?

    ody posits that Cyclamol is really Cyclamen Aldehyde... Any Thoughts?
  64. Thread: Lilac Help!

    by pkiler
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    Re: Lilac Help!

    Thanks Cuallito, but obtaining these Lilac aldehydes and alcohols is impossible, so it sort of means that the headspace is impossible to make by that formula, and you have to get there a different...
  65. Thread: Natural Indole

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    Re: Natural Indole

    Penta tells me they do not sample...

    PK
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    Re: Cyclamol? What is it called now?

    Thanks Jfrater...

    PK
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    Re: Cyclamol? What is it called now?

    I see this that has the word in it, but cannot read the Italian, I'm afraid, so I do not know if it is relevant or not...?


    http://www.basenotes.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=39625&stc=1
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    Cyclamol? What is it called now?

    Got this one on an old formula, and I can't figure out what it is...

    Any thoughts?

    I can see that it is likely a synthetic raw material as seen here:...
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    Re: Dilute by volume or dilute by weight?

    Weigh an empty bottle.
    Pour the 50% benzoin into it and weigh it.
    Divide the weight in half.
    Multiply that half X three.
    Add that amount of alcohol or dilutant to get a 20% dilution.


    PK
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    Re: Dimethyl Sulphide

    I don't think I've ever read the "Single Note Forum".

    I vote for the DIY... :-)

    PK
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    Re: Heliotropin: The Low Down

    PA's Heliotropin replacer is simply Heliotropin diluted to 50% in Benzyl Benzoate.
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    Re: Vintage Dianthine Base Formula

    You can substitute Cinalkex for Cinnamic Alcohol.

    PK
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    Re: Amyl Cinnamic Aldehyde - replacement

    hmmm, just got a small beer fridge from my neighbor for my new lab... Guess that more will go into it then I thought...???

    PK
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    Re: Free Fragrance Composition Software

    Fails again to install. Error report has been sent back...

    PK
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    Re: Decent-ish quality Berg and Lav EO?

    Try www.theperfumery.com

    These are by the pound prices, but they sell also in smaller qty's too:





    Bergamot oil FCF, China
    Citrus bergamia Risso et Piot...
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    Re: Free Fragrance Composition Software

    Will not install on my 64 bit tablet, there is a data error. file will not even open.
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    Musk Xylol / Xylene Replacer . . ?

    I'm noodling around for a Musk Xylol replacer, as I don't have any real Musk Xylol to figure out myself what could be subbed for it in a formula...

    Any Thoughts?

    And, No, I don't have any Musk...
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    Re: Dilution for Economical Reasons?

    Yes it would weaken it further, and you may not need to dilute something already diluted with DPG, however, most materials sold, are sold at as high a strength as usable and acceptable, (Unless...
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    Re: Dilution for Economical Reasons?

    So, Alcohol dilution: If you desire to dilute your materials to 10% in Alcohol, that's a good way to learn and economize in that learning how to blend. This is what many teachers recommend for...
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    Re: Making perfume thicker

    As stated, DPG. Also consider (even better to me,) Hercolyn D.

    But Hercolyn D costs more, but is also thicker. Please refrain from using glycerin.... but could depend upon application and...
  81. Thread: Mousse de Saxe

    by pkiler
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    Re: Mousse de Saxe

    This MDS sample that I obtained is old non-compliant stock, YAY! :-)
  82. Thread: Mousse de Saxe

    by pkiler
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    Re: Mousse de Saxe

    Bacon? :-) Using some Guaiacwood wood too?
  83. Thread: Mousse de Saxe

    by pkiler
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    Re: Mousse de Saxe

    Hi,
    welcome Kev to the forum...

    jfrater, the formulae I am looking at for Mousse de Saxe and other Mousse bases are rather more complex than your start here. MDS has 23 lines...

    MDS doesn't...
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    Re: What do you do with waste aromatics?

    I use these waste materials in potpourri, just pour them on the woodchips and things, and let evaporate. Also, since it is very hot here in the summer, and I have a large wooden fence around the...
  85. Re: How do you think this would smell as a perfume

    Only you know what these FO's smell like, and their intensities. No one here can speculate for a response, too many variables, I'm afraid.


    PK
  86. Thread: Micropipettes

    by pkiler
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    Re: Micropipettes

    That"s not really a micropipettor.

    Try a pipetman.
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    Re: orris butter, how do you use

    Hi Peaches,

    You could try this...
    Still use it in dilution, albeit not @ 10%.

    Even you can afford this scale:
    500g x 0.01g Digital Jewelry Scale 0.01 gram Precision Scale w/ Piece Counting...
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    Re: Dimethyl Sulphide

    Thanks ever so much David, I enjoyed this little lesson...

    :-)

    PK
  89. Thread: Vintage Bases

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    Re: Vintage Bases

    I'd love to know more myself, got a link?
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    Re: New here. Want to make simple mix.

    40B is the alcohol you want.
  91. Thread: Vintage Bases

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    Re: Vintage Bases

    Do you *want* IFRA compliancy?
  92. Thread: Vintage Bases

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    Re: Vintage Bases

    I only can speak of the Firmenich Dianthine vintage base that I have and had analyzed. I sincerely doubt that old and new are the same, and sort of even doubt if it is still made, although that last...
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    PK's New Lab in Process

    Gotten this far, as pictured:

    http://www.basenotes.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=38954&stc=1

    Room is made, walled, insulated, electrical is run, Heating and AC is run from the house into the...
  94. Thread: Mellis Accord

    by pkiler
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    Re: Mellis Accord

    12-methyl-9-oxa-14-tetradecanolide is this odor:
    intense musky-floral, powdery odor reminiscent of the nitro musk musk ambrette, with additional woody, myrrh-type factors

    Try Ambrettex XNM plus...
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    Re: New here. Want to make simple mix.

    Must use 190 or higher alcohol, like Perfumers Alcohol, or 192 Spirytus Potato Vodka, or 191 Everclear.

    Dilute to 20% or 25% and should be fine all around, and if done as stated, will be usable...
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    Re: How to select a good perfume alcohol?

    40B is the one to use...
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    Re: Musk Ketone Replacer

    I've gotten in a sample of it, but it sits here on my desk, I haven't had time to work with it yet. and it would seem to be a blend of items to approximate that single molecule.
    It's at first smell...
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    Re: Bulk quantities supplier

    So is that 1 lb. of 100 items?

    Natural Essential oils?
    Natural Aroma chemicals?
    Synthetics Aroma Chemicals?

    What Country are you in?

    Your inquiry does not have enough parameters for...
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    Re: Hydrocarboresine (A Biolandes base)

    except I want them all...

    Here's a trade secret, Hydrocarboresine is THE secret ingredient in Norma Kamali's Incense perfume.

    If I weren't so broke, I would have ordered a kilo a LOOOONG...
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    Re: IFRA Regulations - A simple question

    I'd better keep my mouth shut... ;-)

    PK
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