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Nearly four years later and I still cannot choose between PM, Antaeus and Egoiste.
They are just the (for me) some sort of holy grail - a trinity that has never been repeated.
When I was in my twenties and early thirties, the sales girls were so utterly gorgeous I still can picture them now.
Maybe it's some Freudian undercurrent why I collect 80s scents.
I miss the days when I could wear fragrance to work.
The dry-down is utterly different for me when comparing the vintage and the current Antaeus.
I've found that this is where most of the differences lie with any designer fragrance produced in the...
Thanks. That's very kind.
My Collection. I bet others have more than this.
If people are too lazy to click a link then it's probably not worth posting here anyway. People who contribute very little should be grateful that others make efforts regardless of where that...
Well, I tend to post long, informative reviews of vintage fragrances that take hours to write and photograph - with a link in my signature.
Not wanting to stoke the flames on BN in general but I feel that not only is the PD term inappropriate, people on here need to post less often and with more interesting threads. Lately, the forums...
They were on here a few months ago asking people if they would temporarily donate bottles for the article.
Actually is my favouritre scent for the last five years, irrespective of who it's aimed at.
When I used to live in the UK, it became the same problem of identity. CK just had so many different lines that the brand was diluted to the point of it being bargain basement stuff.
It's a real...
It's strange how the box on mine and the bottle don't have a lettering that matches. I believe there must have been a transitional period when the boxes and the bottles overlapped a little in the...
It doesn't smell significantly different but the longevity is much better on the early 90s bottle.
Yeah, there was a time when just about every guy was wearing it. I think its popularity indirectly led to its decline.
Then Escape arrived and everyone forgot about Eternity.
You're welcome. The batch code on mine is E025.
Definitely. Is there a batch code on the the bottom of the bottle and a green dot symbol?
The information will help me narrow down the formulation change even further.
This is great news. Why...
Added in now. I date this bottle at 1992 (there is a green dot symbol on the label on the base of bottle).
By mid 1993, lettering on the box would have changed to lower case (see thread below).
Thanks. One thing that I was not aware of is that the sure way to tell vintage Eternity or Obsession is with the upper case lettering.
The box is uppercase but the bottle is lower. I worried about...
Has taken me the best part of a year to find a vintage bottle of this, looking absolutely everywhere. For something that was once so common, the first bottles are scarce now. Very powerful compared...
Word of caution: if the seller is making mention of the fact that it is vintage, tread carefully. Also, a bottle that can be opened is one that can filled with something else to get...
Nice. A classic for me but I'm probably not a typical basenotes guy.
30ml of vintage is better than 100ml of the current stuff. Try and make it last!
That spray boxed bottle is from between 1990 and 1992 unless it also has the dot mark which would put it between 1992 &1998.
Yes, I'm aware of what the words 'most likely' mean. but thanks for pointing them out to me.
Even without a code, that box is indicative of late 1980s.
You just have to hope the seller hasn't tampered with it.
What's the batch code on that box? Can the seller tell you?
You cannot really say that with any confidence. The buyer hasn't even received it yet.
Of course, people buying vintage should generally steer clear of splash bottles, I've bought things over the...
it's certainly vintage Chanel - anything before the lettering changed is good, in my humble opinion, regardless of the fragrance.
As to the year, there is no box so getting the batch code is not...
No doubt the bottle is vintage. The contents may be dubious. The cap and spray are odd - as if the spray attachment could be screwed down onto the bottle. It isn't a tester either - should say on the...
PM (in both forms), Antaeus & Egoiste make up the holy grail of Chanel scents for men - at least for me.
Only Coromandel has approached them in terms of quality in the seventeen years since...
The current Concentree is okay. If I had never found the original, I would be happy with the current one.
However, the original edition is a lot better in every way.
Yes, that's a true vintage bottle.
You're welcome. Basenotes is a great place for modern fashionable fragrances but there is little to no effort made to trace the histories of anything more than fifteen to twenty years old. Calvin...
Original green from the Warner to Cosmair. Polo Sport was the last decent effort.
Since then, lame.
Every time I see that Big Pony stuff, it's laughable. Just my opinion.
I took a 'one-off' detour from reviewing vintage scents.
Thanks in advance if you take the time to read it. Please post anything you would add.
It's after mid 1993. That's the best answer you will find. I posted extensively about this. The problems with dating it a in the thread below.
No-one has ever attempted a comprehensive look at...
Thanks scooptn. Much appreciated.
I couldn't find this information from their site.
Do the 75ml bottles still come in the same packaging with the black base holder as in the picture below?
Any help much...
Good man. Buy what you love. If your taste is vintage, don't let all the modern-day trends put you off.
Warner bottles are earlier than Cosmair. As to the batch codes, there is no good authority on this, as I recall..
Over the years, there has been no real attempt on Basenotes to put something...
Lol at this thread. As if Chanel would be deliberately selling fake products at their own stores? And Rolex?
It's obviously just a defective bottle of a fragrance that is manufactured in the...
All my fragrances are a collection of uneasy nostalgia. Things I once wore with people I once knew, places I once was.
The past is not always a pleasant landscape to revisit.
I cannot see what the confusion is here - the position of the lettering is incorrect and a simple check on the batch code using Andre Moreau's information would confirm that.
No, it's not vintage.
Silver boxes are earlier than red boxes for all Cartier men's fragrances, except where the fragrance was originally introduced before the early 00's (which is when they changed to silver).
Don't know if it's any use to you but the current version of Antaeus has one of the most obnoxious dry-downs ever, in my opinion. I've been wearing Antaeus for more than thirty years so I am very...
Depends on if the fragrance was good in the first place. Mostly, re-issues are terrible. Sometimes they're okay. Either of these scenarios will affect eBay prices.
Here's Escada Pour Homme -...
You could have inscribed on your gravestone 'Here lies sealed boxes of vintage Patou Pour Homme'.
This is turning into the best BN thread ever. So much gallows humour.
Don't worry. Size is unimportant with a 1995 bottle. You'll only need one spray. It's an absolute monster. Go easy.
Eternity might be appropriate.
1995 bottle. Excellent quality if it has been stored properly.
Okay, I seem to have complicated matters here. What I was trying to say is that, in my opinion, Fraicheur is the third best vintage Kouros that you can buy/collect or whatever.
The original (pre...
I think it could. I was just trying this out in a store a few weeks ago. I haven't bought it yet but it seemed quite wearable for a man.
I should stress I'm talking about the current version. I've...
I'm pretty sure Escada Pour Homme had almost universally good ratings on here. Not sure a thousand people have voiced their opinion on any fragrance on basenotes, however.
No surprise here, either. It's maybe the best that was ever produced. Are you sure it's the vintage? There was a reissue in 1999.
I see stuff labelled as 'Vintage' all the time when it is quite clearly not. I don't bother reporting them. There are just too many people doing it. Having said that, they probably deserve to be...
I never understood the term to begin with. If Tom Ford is niche, why can it be bought at any major department store?
If Chanel's Exclusifs can be purchased easily on-line and in most major...
Vintage Kouros - give it to them.
In my opinion, you already have the third best version of Kouros - that being, Fraicheur.
I wouldn't even take it for free if it came in a bottle like that.
No, get some solid 1980s stuff.
If I had to choose only five (and that would be extremely hard as I only really love stuff from that period) they would be:
Paco Rabanne Pour Homme
Armani Eau Pour Homme
Calvin Klein Obsession...
Personally speaking, I've bought designer fragrances from people for prices that were a great deal higher than they are worth. I know that because I am old enough to remember their prices when they...
Just out of curiosity, what did you sell him?
It's 1998. Clues are: 4 digits & by 1996/7, they had stopped printing the batch code on the cellophane.
Check here: http://www.jasonnewton.net/blog/?tag=dior
Please note that there are two vintage editions of Kouros Eau de Sport.
How can buying all designer fragrances make you inexperienced? In whose eyes?
My list would be random.
I am bumping this thread because I have now acquired a second bottle of vintage Kouros Sport. The blog entry has additional notes and more photographs of differences between them.
It's genuine. Just the modern version that they sell now. If you're not happy with it, I'm sure you can return it.
As to the bad longevity and so forth, welcome to modern day Chanel.
Cannot see your links.
I have this final set of impressions up on my blog now. Vintage Kouros has been covered extensively but I don't believe anyone has really focused in on the elusive Sport edition.
First Calvin is truly excellent but from my experience it's not cheap. Plus, people tend to buy the 1999 re-release thinking it's the vintage and it's not at all.
Please leave any comments.
I collect only men's fragrances that I personally owned and used as a young man between 1984 & 1995. In many cases, this has meant buying more than one bottle of something that was originally...
It's not vintage - the position of the lettering is the true test. I go with theory one. As a tester bottle, it could have easily had another cap put on especially if it was hanging around in a...
It's certainly an interesting development for Chanel. Back in the 80s and early 90s, more or less every big designer fragrance had a bar of soap in its range. That trend seemed to die out by the end...
Right now in the UK, the regular Bleu EDT is about £64 for 100ml.
The parfum is £80. I tried both and couldn't even tell the difference in terms of quality or longevity. It's not worth another £16...
I've never seen an 80s bottle without lettering above the CHANEL title but it's entirely possible. Even testers from that period did specify what they were - EDT, Apres Rasage etc.
The bottom of...
Are you definitely sure of authenticity? There should be additional lettering above the CHANEL lettering.
Also, it should say 642013 on the back beneath the 100ml details (I believe that only...
I had a 2ml sample of this arrive today. I think it's absolutely wonderful. It's easily one of the best fragrances I've tried in the last ten years. The last fragrance I tried and subsequently bought...
Bigsly, can you post the base of the bottle? You don't have the box, right?
Here's a 1995 bottle. http://www.jasonnewton.net/blog/2014/8/28/more-fahrenheit
I've been on holiday in the UK for two days now. In Boots, they had it for £80 but Debenhams said it wasn't available for another week. However, Sales girl there gave me a tester which was kind.
Good comparisons, Andre. Fahrenheit is safely in my top three of all time. Nothing was ever the same after its release - at least for me. It shook up the entire industry at the time.
Thank you, Guidion. I really appreciate that.
I haven't seen true vintage Egoiste Platinum for at least three/four years now. The Egoiste Platinum/ Platinum Egoiste thing is irrelevant.
True vintage would follow the known lettering conventions...
I will be in the UK for a little while soon. I wondered if anyone in London or Manchester could tell me the current price on the 200ml bottles?
I cannot find out anything from...
Okay, I'll get someone to check it out. Thanks
Has anyone seen this in the UK? Debenhams, House of Fraser etc?
First thing would be to find a cellophane sealed bottle of Patou Pour Homme EDT Spray.
I bet even if I had the money, there simply isn't one anywhere in the world in that condition.
That's partly why I mentioned Patou Pour Homme in the review. Its status is almost mythically out of proportion, I feel.
But that's another argument for another thread.
Sorry I couldn't be more positive about Escada as you clearly love it more than I. It's still a very fine fragrance but if I had to choose between this and vintage Chanel Pour...
After Escada Pour Homme, I have one more vintage review ready and then I'll be taking a break for a while.
This is my experience of it too. I was a young guy (barely twenty) back in the late 1980s. I remember PPH but don't recall it being popular at all. I recall seeing it in department stores but it...
It's a 1993 EDT.