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    Re: Agarwood oil thread.

    Woa very long threads missed out, anyway back from my old reunion with Taha, he is the best brother ever may Allah preserve and prosper you bro.
    @MrP after years you had return, how is my old Aceh...
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    Re: Agarwood oil thread.

    @ Delicious scent The real thing you are not loosing your oil but rather you loose volume but you gain viscosity and weight. It happened in every EO.
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    Re: Agarwood oil thread.

    Here in Indonesia we do not emphasize to drill until the cortex rather only 1/3 of the trees diameter, The result are very close to natural formations, but not yet in their "depth"of aroma.
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    Hi wow a hot discussion here, my I add more to...

    Hi wow a hot discussion here, my I add more to this discussion ? In the wild ring is also an early sign of infection, they usually formed either by insect, bears, tigers or other wild animals, since...
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    I am GC MS ing my ouds as we speak if the local...

    I am GC MS ing my ouds as we speak if the local authority wanted something I can just toss it to them.
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    I felt something very wrong here... I don't know...

    I felt something very wrong here... I don't know if someone want to play rough to T.
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    There is still a loophole, I feel sorry for the...

    There is still a loophole, I feel sorry for the great T to happened this way. Hmm most laws are made for the giants not small guys like us...
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    I am lucky that GC MS certificate, a real one...

    I am lucky that GC MS certificate, a real one with real analysis can be obtain at very low price where I live , I am thinking having a distributor in the US land. The problem is CITES paper is very...
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    It is available in English at amazon too :...

    It is available in English at amazon too : http://www.amazon.ca/Wood-Chemistry-Ultrastructure-Dietrich-Fengel/dp/0899255930
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    ah it was translated by him by Wenger and Dietrich

    ah it was translated by him by Wenger and Dietrich
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    KZ there is an interesting book a by Indonesian...

    KZ there is an interesting book a by Indonesian Professor named Professor Hardjono Sastroamidjaja a guru in Indonesian essential oil studies, he wrote a book in Bahasa Indonesia Ultr struktur kayu "...
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    KZ I will donate data of my oud GC. Poke me if...

    KZ I will donate data of my oud GC. Poke me if you interested.
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    I've dealt with AO before...it was back in the...

    I've dealt with AO before...it was back in the 2010 I tried to sell them woods not mine but friends around 30 Kilos of various grades, their buying price is not nice they kept me waiting for half...
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    Glass on glass is the best but not always...

    Glass on glass is the best but not always accessible for sellers and the price would be adding the price in which it goes to customer. Very few options available especially in my country, I do have a...
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    And those decorative bottles are pain stalking,...

    And those decorative bottles are pain stalking, they tend to break and leak so. I use imported bottles instead with phenolic caps that will not dissolve with the eo, EO is not a good friend for...
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    Powdernose thank you I hope you can join the joy...

    Powdernose thank you I hope you can join the joy of Scrumdiddlyupmtious as well. For the bottle, I had sick and tired of risk of leak so I decided to import bottle from America and give it a twist by...
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    Thanks Scrumdiddlyupmtious for the picture, I...

    Thanks Scrumdiddlyupmtious for the picture, I hope you enjoy the oils especially the Ratu she is very special hard to get kind a raw material, could you give me your impression here on the the thread...
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    Same here I think you should click insert image...

    Same here I think you should click insert image directly from the reply tab. Instead of posting it on the post. So it will be shown directly to the audience and the member of the group and the thread.
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    dusty old wooden cabinet ? mainly from very old...

    dusty old wooden cabinet ? mainly from very old teak wood I pressumed that is the note you mention littlecrowgirl. Like a visit to old grand father's house.
    That's the note I am thinking. Ah my...
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    @ Glomerulus I had check up your complain I don't...

    @ Glomerulus I had check up your complain I don't see any glitch here, maybe your connection or possibly your browser ? It works well here and I am viewing it now.
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    KZ I love`your web! I really do love`it It's very...

    KZ I love`your web! I really do love`it It's very scientific and terrific mostly it tickles my sense of curiosity. I have GC MS result for Papuan Oud oil, I can share you if you want. And people I...
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    KZ I love`your web! I really do love`it It's very...

    KZ I love`your web! I really do love`it It's very scientific and terrific mostly it tickles my sense of curiosity. I have GC MS result for Papuan Oud oil, I can share you if want.
    And people I...
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    5Meo there are alot of Indonesian oud scent,...

    5Meo there are alot of Indonesian oud scent, depending on which area it is, 16 species of oud producing trees are in Indonesia. There are places unexplored here that also has oud, If you like for...
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    @ Ibn_masood Jazakallahu khairan for the high...

    @ Ibn_masood Jazakallahu khairan for the high compliment and it's an honour to serve you. Also @Scrumdiddlyupmtious thank you for your patience in me. I have no connection with these 2 accounts and...
  25. Re: First Experience with Real Oud (Oud Yusuf)

    Hi everybody,
    I am an oud oil artist too. But specialist in Indonesian oud. Any question regarding oud oil you may pm me. Oud is unique, it is a perfume in form of essential oil, on GC MS in has...
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    Recommeding Sumatra if you are looking for salty...

    Recommeding Sumatra if you are looking for salty ones, especially stainless Sumatra. You can contact oud al Bangkawy. I use to make using SS, I am now operating SS hybrid with glass with upward...
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    @amar_420 sorry not reply you in quicker way, I...

    @amar_420 sorry not reply you in quicker way, I was out of town for few days. So let's continue, the peppery usually lasted for 2-3 weeks, I consider it as still smell from fresh oil, but after 2-3...
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    Gaharu buaya is also getting harder due non...

    Gaharu buaya is also getting harder due non viable market, and the propagation of the trees is much difficult, because the trees live at swampy land, the seeds are prone to decomposotion, without any...
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    Some fresh distilled oud I mean in 2-3 weeks it...

    Some fresh distilled oud I mean in 2-3 weeks it will have a strong spicy peppery then subsided into much polite form, AMAR_420 thanks for your inbox reply.
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    hehe I make that one with red little rope into...

    hehe I make that one with red little rope into oil. That's not Kynam.
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    I am updating my web for the blog entry check it...

    I am updating my web for the blog entry check it out.
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    powdernose Cork tissue means it was cork in...

    powdernose
    Cork tissue means it was cork in literal meaning in which it was inside the chips mostly, white bulbous odorless tissue, the trees if it was very healthy the infection will be no longer...
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    Oud does develop in years, but not 50 years, if...

    Oud does develop in years, but not 50 years, if the tree is 80 years and quite healthy the solidification will never happend, the result is cork tissued oud chips, Or worse it recover and gulp the...
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    Wow Tabarakallah ! thank you for your support. As...

    Wow Tabarakallah ! thank you for your support. As we Know agarwood business is about relationship not just buying and selling. And may Allah give you a greater success.
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    Greetings from Indonesia, as many of other...

    Greetings from Indonesia, as many of other members know I am a distiller, I had updated my website in these couple days. It was awful before it, and I wanted to hear from you all. I will put up some...
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    It's not that resinous actually

    It's not that resinous actually
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    @adam it is perfume bottle, it has been a month...

    @adam it is perfume bottle, it has been a month since shipped, unfortunately it hasn't arrived yet.
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    The distillation tech yes, but have not applied...

    The distillation tech yes, but have not applied it yet basically it's playing on the temperature, since different firing different temperature will make different chemica contet. I am still waiting...
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    The distillation tech yes, but have not applied...

    The distillation tech yes, but have not applied it yet basically it's playing on the temperature, since different firing different temperature will make different chemica contet. I am still waiting...
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    Hmm long time never writte here, how are you...

    Hmm long time never writte here, how are you people doing.
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    The question is how much Kyara left ???

    The question is how much Kyara left ???
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    Re: Aoud Curiosity

    One should smell real ones to know what oud is.
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    Hyping is good but over hyping is ehmmm.... some...

    Hyping is good but over hyping is ehmmm.... some silly question of agarwood oil personal buyer are how old is the tree, I will say I don't know, since I buy the raw material and they are in pieces of...
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    you are right ET, I even use the same device, my...

    you are right ET, I even use the same device, my buddy design the device I am using now. It's his design, strangely the result is like day to night, but we agree to clean and age the oil result of...
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    Re: Zegna indonesian oud

    What about a sniff of real Indonesian oud oil? I am a distiller. PM me for details. Perfume will never cope with real ones.
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    my my that guy copy a whole blog of mine.... : ...

    my my that guy copy a whole blog of mine.... : http://gaharujinkou.wordpress.com/fake-agarwood/gaharu-buaya/
    With very minor editing also grabing some photos out of the internet.. hmmm :/....
    I...
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    I was told that the old Dayak People use agarwood...

    I was told that the old Dayak People use agarwood as their burial offer when it comes to kings, This offer was using the agarwood probably the highest grade for lifting the coffin. As the the...
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    deleted sorry. Say what someone else here? that...

    deleted sorry. Say what someone else here? that posted a link to the market place?
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    Aubuchon; what exactly is your going to ask? Oud...

    Aubuchon; what exactly is your going to ask? Oud without the smell of incense? that's like asking noodle without the noodle itself the being there. The short is there are no oud like that, the...
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    Syuyufi means sword like, it's an Arab or Indian...

    Syuyufi means sword like, it's an Arab or Indian grade for woods which is long and big as man's thumb and solid, the syuyufi oil probaly mix by these or made out from it's shavings.
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    Hello People How are you ? I just posted a photo...

    Hello People How are you ? I just posted a photo on the group, that is another new oil from me, I name her Oud Kaltara, she is from Malinau Berau area, Still dirty, need to give her a facelift, ...
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    thanks sparky you could PM me for details, very...

    thanks sparky you could PM me for details, very subtle and right between the eye, tomorrow is Kalimantan time !!
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    Ok, My Oud Aceh distilation is done, this baby...

    Ok, My Oud Aceh distilation is done, this baby has very very limited number and I use high quality woods, resin rich and a hall mark of Sumatra, It smell like a fresh coffee beans being ripe on the...
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    Taha, the Icy effect makes Almost the whole SEA...

    Taha, the Icy effect makes Almost the whole SEA into a single continent for at least 100 K years and ended 12500 Years ago due the sea level reside and making it a huge super continent, that is very...
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    I thank Tahasyed and Davido for the credit, no...

    I thank Tahasyed and Davido for the credit, no more of that thing anymore only it's sibling, hard resinous but not sinking, the wood chips are typical Sumatra, they are mostly resin rich least on oil...
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    Actually when selling in grams, the seller will...

    Actually when selling in grams, the seller will loose approx 8 ml per Kg due the fact that 1 ml of oud oil is equal to 0.8-0.9 grams, meaning a full tola 11.66 grams is equal to 12.5 ml, so for...
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    Re: Agarwood smoke

    Did somebody call me? Hehehehe

    Mimic a Jinn. :(:(:D:(:D:(

    Oud itself are different one to another, they are unique individuals, a single species from a different area would smell different. I...
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    do you heard the word Chen Xiang from what he is...

    do you heard the word Chen Xiang from what he is saying Adam ? if not it's dragon's blood resin we called as jernang a family of rattan that live in the jungle also use for medicine and perfumery....
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    I am sorry to heard your case Masstika, that...

    I am sorry to heard your case Masstika, that trick is common but mostly done by hunter so the wood will look and feel dense. They stuffed the wood with dirt even the most skillfull trickster out...
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    KZ Dead curious about it but it's out of my...

    KZ Dead curious about it but it's out of my league for real.
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    After seeing KZ's Video on Kynam being burnt, it...

    After seeing KZ's Video on Kynam being burnt, it really educated me that unlike agarwood the kynam has more oil compare to resin, when it hit the burner I can see it the oil are getting themselves...
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    @ Masstika Umami is what we Indonesian called as...

    @ Masstika Umami is what we Indonesian called as gurih go here for reference: http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002038.html
    @Blue to push it more doesn't worth it, it has waxy...
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    @ I couldn't agree more with Trygve the...

    @ I couldn't agree more with Trygve the propagation of agarwood is not like Rhino per see, the agarwood spread their seedlings every year in the number of thounsands if not millions, I have a friend...
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    Ahmm please people don't start trolling here if...

    Ahmm please people don't start trolling here if you want to start a fight this is not the place, we share knowlegde in this thread. Be polite be nice, if you found someone is in different stand with...
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    I finished Candan distillation today the yield is...

    I finished Candan distillation today the yield is very very thin but the smell is very resinous. And surprisingly it's smell's like Borneo or East Kalimantan but a little damper and chocolate and the...
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    I say on Indonesian wood only, the price is very...

    I say on Indonesian wood only, the price is very high that is for 20 grams ?? 1500 Yen? woo. Well every seller got their price.
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    wooo more expensive then certain brand、 値段は大変です。

    wooo more expensive then certain brand、 値段は大変です。
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    I use normal pippet usually I drain the water out...

    I use normal pippet usually I drain the water out then use cotton bud to get rid of the water after the valve then harvest it. so very few water left. And then I opened the valve to drain it and wait...
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    @ Edward about those thing on the receiver it's...

    @ Edward about those thing on the receiver it's confirm it is wax, I shove it with a small screwdriver (-) head and then burn it with matches, it dissolve quickly and after few second it solidify...
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    @Masstika What I focus on is on the yield yes, it...

    @Masstika What I focus on is on the yield yes, it will gain oil but how much? the point is how much not the just will gain good oil. Anyway the yield is once again based on material selection....
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    Taha thanks akhii, but I kind a disagree with you...

    Taha thanks akhii, but I kind a disagree with you even using great wood namely AB, we must carefully select the raw material we are using, if it's too resinous the end result will distill out waxes...
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    report on the candan oil smell it is sweet musky,...

    report on the candan oil smell it is sweet musky, herbal, citrus and menthol all the way.
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    Thanks Blue , anyway if any of you in London...

    Thanks Blue , anyway if any of you in London wanted to taste the food of the spice Island in which my country you can go here : http://www.timeout.com/london/restaurants/east-west it's authentic...
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    My Hirta just born today let say in couple of...

    My Hirta just born today let say in couple of days on this baby :

    http://www.basenotes.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=19309&d=1361283929
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    actually the native of the jungle had done...

    actually the native of the jungle had done tortured way for centuries and it produce good quality. The technique is called as tubuk the idea is to hurt the tree so that within next year they will...
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    Glad to enlight, as for Barabai at South...

    Glad to enlight, as for Barabai at South Kalimantan I had gone to that place and see the trees owner, whom he is cooperate with ITTO for this research. Once again using high quality chips for oil...
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    Found this when gone on search enjoy :...

    Found this when gone on search enjoy : http://www.forestfocus.org/Common/pdf/db9e1d2f-62f1-4112-a136-81d93ee719d7.pdf
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    Now distilling Candan or also known as Aquilaria...

    Now distilling Candan or also known as Aquilaria Hirta, with new setting not 24 hours yet got about 1 ml let's see it tomorrow. I hope I can get a good yield.
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    Hi long timenever make any comments in this...

    Hi long timenever make any comments in this thread, do you guys know that other use of agarwood besides perfumery ? It is known that agarospirol and agarofuran where known as sedative. I heard a...
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    @ Adam I think it is natural form of cork like...

    @ Adam I think it is natural form of cork like you found on wine cork but it is agarwood. Some chips are like that in the middle they have cork.
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    My team mate distill withish wood using huge...

    My team mate distill withish wood using huge boiler for patchouly, using low pressure and the pressure will build it by itself due wettening, the result is menthol woody simplistic smell. A perfumer...
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    @ RussianAdam I can't tell it sorry company...

    @ RussianAdam I can't tell it sorry company policy :D
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    @GTL Breaking the wood will cost the trader much...

    @GTL Breaking the wood will cost the trader much sometimes it can make the wood lost it's weight and shape that will drop it's worth.

    I was one day called by Japanese who live in China, he said...
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    I can be very super duper sarcastic if someone...

    I can be very super duper sarcastic if someone send me that kind a wood...!!! Whatta...!!!$##@@@!!! I will dump it else where or make it as fire wood not fragrant wood
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    @Masstika owh...that is painted ... @Oudramatic...

    @Masstika owh...that is painted ...
    @Oudramatic BMW makers here use higher tech than that they use pressure and some solvent like methanol ( If I am not mistaken Methanol is dangerous that cause...
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    @Masstika there is a responsibe effort on this,...

    @Masstika there is a responsibe effort on this, And not all of the trees are not in deep in the jungle like outsider thinks it is, some in old rubber plantations others or owned by people for...
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    I think so especially papuan wood, and I heard of...

    I think so especially papuan wood, and I heard of Kalimantan are now being able to be copied :D
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    I believe that someone had put it in this borard...

    I believe that someone had put it in this borard for so many times just look for it. I remembered Masstika named as petronuke oud.
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    @bluemoon I think the combination of both, the...

    @bluemoon I think the combination of both, the mob wants money and power and some scientist are too lazy to got down on the field. And then all the sudden they had the agarwood under Endangered...
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    The extiction etc is just a big boast for...

    The extiction etc is just a big boast for business to be honest, not by us but by huge agarwood mafia. If you come to some region there are trees in numbers of millions they are wild trees or being...
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    The trees whose grown on the cliff alone with...

    The trees whose grown on the cliff alone with very little nutrient usually give the best and the hardest as it's said by the hunters and the 1st hand trader.
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    @Masstika wel trees areliving organism it reacts...

    @Masstika wel trees areliving organism it reacts on different things too. Right :). The harsher the condition the trees usually produce more solid and hard stuff the least and on the opposite the...
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    To Masstika I remembered that I had put that...

    To Masstika I remembered that I had put that point, the tree reacts on whatever you inject into it so the answer is yes, it do have relation on what species being entered also the quality of the wood...
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    Wa 'alaikum salaam Ya Adam We use well water...

    Wa 'alaikum salaam Ya Adam
    We use well water for that hydro, at home I use tap water but our tap water is from a spring unlike in big cities, it is advised that the water must be boiled first. But...
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    Adam you call me ??? hehehehe sorry busy building...

    Adam you call me ??? hehehehe sorry busy building a new still for my mentor :) just being actively online also dealing with some Sumatra distillation with the boys. They use hydro and glass, with...
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    not only that the wood is like you buy a box of...

    not only that the wood is like you buy a box of mineral water.....! in which it will make you broke due the shrinking it can shrink as much as 70% @_@ when brought to dry area like middle east. The...
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    the reason kupingan formed much fragrant than...

    the reason kupingan formed much fragrant than other it is because it it shaped parabolic so the resin and the oil just will lump together into a single spot. the wound usually from a chopped or...
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    Suyufi and kacang are different, the kacang is...

    Suyufi and kacang are different, the kacang is usually small not long and big. Kacang meaning "Peanut" do the size is not too big. Teri are smaller then kacang. Andabout the ear shapped oud or...
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    Suyufi grade meaning sword like Arab grade and...

    Suyufi grade meaning sword like Arab grade and their favourite it is long 1-2 fingers wide and hard, refer as super grade. But the super cannot be 100% the raw material just a little fraction of it....
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    @ Taha What you stated are true in case of water...

    @ Taha
    What you stated are true in case of water and steam distillation, the point is making the sizing of the particle as equal and as uninform as possible. Various way for grinding were also...
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