Fragrance for a pagan

Crowley used to wear a perfume called 'Ruthvah' . It's still available to buy in the uk...not cheap though. I used to have some myself and it's a very heavy sweet musky oil

apparently he based his success with women on it

ED

L'Artisan Passage d'Enfer I know this is Paul's sexy pagan beast fragrance.

You've found the SA!.........well done, you're life will never be the same again LOL!..........seriously, it's an excellent geniunie emporium. The proprietor chris bray ( frater marabas) is one of only a few genuine 'occultists' left...........if you believe in that kind of thing ............personally i do


If you buy it don't expect a big bottle, it only comes in a small vial!

Just curious, where is that picture taken from?

ED

Darkness by Geparlys is the scent of choice for those on the "dark" side!

I read Crowley wore pure civet.

As a former failure of an occultist I would recommend Messe de Minuit or Muscs Koubla Khan.

If it's a qabalistic ritual you would chose Êscents according to the sephiratic correspondances. Tobacco for Malkuth for example.

I second the black phoenix lachemy lab. That site makes fascinating reading although sometimes slightly disturbing. ;D I wish I had the patience to wait for their scents, I may just break down and order some imps, yet.

Yes, BPAL is a test in patience and not for the person who must have immediate gratification. It took almost two months to get my order, but of course, I also ordered in early December, which is their busiest time of year.

I ordered two 5 mls and received 4 courtesy staff picked imps in my package. I've yet to test them, but upon quick sniff, three smelled good and only one was a bit off. Of the two bottles I ordered, I love DeSade (although its not as long lasting as I'd hoped) and am still undecided on Iago. Part of it I like, parts of it I tolerated. DeSade is very linear leather and I love that about it.

Serge Luten's Exclusive (non-export) line. U.S. Basenoters will have to swap or purchase on eBay.

I've always thought Alexander McQueen's Kingdom EDP was a very pagan scent... and that bottle, beautiful but also very gothic, like a heart cut open...

Sante.

If you really want to get it right I'm afraid you'll have to mix your own concoctions, based on type of the ritual and your particular needs. As much as I read about it, witches used specially blended oils for Sabbats, Esbats and different rites, seasons etc. Every plant and oil has different vibrations and correspondances so they have to be blended very carefully to attain the right goal.
On the commercial side, I'd look up Messe de Minuit (Etro), Angelique Encens (Creed) and, obviously, Magie Noire (Lancome). Nu and Bellodgia (Caron) also spring to mind.

Judging only by name, I would have to say that SL Datura Noir sounds like just the thing for lubricating your broomstick.

Êeffective imagery, dcampen! Ê :

Well, mikediscoli . . . my vote goes to NU edp. ÊAs Serpent has contended many times, here at the BASE, NU does have its Gothic side. ÊAs, do I. ÊBTW: Êmike . . . if you're a cult horror film addict, you have GOT to see the original version of DERANGED. ÊI saw it in theaters, back in the early seventies . . . it's wild.

Another vote for Passage d'Enfer

this gets a third vote from me. that is too funny the sexy pagan beast paul

8) NU is an androgynous fragrance, from the house of YSL, with a long, long history here at Basenotes. It was created for women; they didn't like it. Tom Ford announced that he wore it. The scent became 'unisex.' In the end, I think it's come what may, with this one. I've been told at department stores that men ended up buying NU, most of the time. You should be able to find it maybe at TJ Maxx, quite cheap . . . otherwise, it's online. I prefer the EDP, rather than the EDT, which is being marketed now, as NU MAN. As for the movie . . . mike . . . you HAVE TO SEE IT.

:P Make sure you get the right DERANGED, though . . . there are a couple of titles, sporting that name. This one is from back in 1973, I think . . . NOT the one about some woman having a breakdown . . . this one is a 'cult' classic, but it's difficult to procure! I saw it in the theater . . . scared me to death. Jim 'the Bark,' wants to see this one, too . . . he can't find it. I wish I had a copy, I'd send it to you. But SOMETHING tells me that you'll find it!! Where there's a will . . . there's a way! Albeit . . . DERANGED! ;D

this is in reference to the coworker who had her 1st grade class dress up as pirates and come into my room and all say, "ARRRRRRR, CAPTAIN!!!!" in unison after she proclaimed that Hanai Mori smelled like Cap'n Crunch to her. About a month after that, I was wearing Passage D'Enfer and her immortal comment, "damn, you smell good....what's that called, sexy pagan beast?" was uttered. Which she still will alternate between calling Sexy Pagan Beast and Sexy Pagan Bitch.

I do not know what worries me more; That these web sites exist or that youy guys know about them.
:-/

Musc Ravageur always struck me as very heathen anyway. A dark unorthodox fragrance for sure.

MMM

Kenneth Cole Black...just because it's black...goths love the stuff ;D

Body Kouros

Cool. So often we say we like a frag if it smells good or if the scent resonates with our personality. But there are other levels to the science or art we don't talk about much, like the vibration and "meanings" of the plant or oil...mixing a frag based on the particular need might not totally suit the nose, but might actually benefit the soul or ceremonial space more than a scent we think smells really good, just the same as certain foods that may not please the taste buds are still actually powerful and healing for the body.

I know.....just a little humor :P

All this incense stuff mentioned is fine enough for your typical pagan or two. The passage and the MdM. But Crowley? Come on now. For the beast himself it has to be Lucifer, No. 2 for daytime or Lucifer 1 or 3 for the night.

I just have to bump this too :P. Whos Damien Bash?!! I have to try out the Lucifer cents. Lucifer no 2 has Blackpepper

Hi Peace,

I understand that you're being very selective these days about your fragrances. I'd therefore suggest that you first sample the Lucifer series before committing to a large bottle.
Aedes has them here: Â*http://www.aedes.com/brand.php?brand_id=47&cat_id=1

~Godzilla

tsk, tsk, Concord--no wonder you failed as an occultist, Â*you're got your Sephiroths mixed up! Â* Tobacco should be used for Geburah, Â*when you're cursing an enemy, Â*Malkuth would be more of an earthy, Â*vetiver scent, Â*to ground you back fom your Â*astral Â*travels. Â*But really, Â*this whole Jewish mysticism thing is soo complicated! Â* Give me that old Â*time ( shaman) Â*religion Â*and let me dream of the winning lotto numbers.

Nevertheless, Â*you have impeccable taste and I wholeheartedly applaud your choice of Muscs Kublai Khan, Â*especially Â*for whenever one dons the black robe under a full moon . . .

As to Uncle Aleister, I believe he used a compound of civet, Â*musk, Â*ambergris and patchouli---but I could be way off, Â*since I haven't sacrificed a goat in months.

Now Â*then, Â*as to "Ruthva"--- Frankly folks, I'd e-mail the 'sorcerer's apprentice' site and ask for the notes first. Â* Just cautious, Â*ever since Blackphoenix and Gothrosary sites started getting middling toÂ*poor reviews Â*here on the forums. Â*Depressing, Â*really. Â*If you can't trust a sorcerer, Â*who can you trust?

Anyway, as to dark scents:

1 Bulgari Black ( common in the finding of it, Â*lads, not in the brewing, Â*so no snobbery, Â*please)

2. Salvador Dali PH----For all those satanic masses--- Just be sure to get the edt, Â*not Â*the lame aftershave lest the demons laugh at your conjurations.

( Â*Also, Â*I have it on good authority that the followers of Â*He Who Must Not Be Named, Â*before commencing another murderous attack on Mr. Potter douse themselves with a combination of Bandit, Â*Kuorus and Quorum. )

And Â*finally, Â*if you repent and manage to escape the forces of darkness:

3. Â*Acque Sante--Holy Water, Â*by Profumo, Â*available in the US at

http://store.perfumersapprentice.com/profumo.html

A ' tender, celestial aroma that opens the heart to angelic realities. ' Â*Created by an Italian Sufi mystic to heal wounded hearts and dispel negative influences.

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So glad I get to leave behind the mundane world and spend a little time with fellow romantic/ lunatics on Basenotes. My friends, let us never forget the warning spoken by the lead in Jean Cocteau's classic film:

" My parents did not believe in magic, Â*that is why I became a Beast."


Always falling for Beauty,

Mario
8-)

Your right about the selectivnes(or how you spell that?). Im defintely going to sample this first.I believe they were like 100euros abottle, so no way in hell, will i buy one blind Thanks for the link.

Kisu by Tahn Rokka
Montale Oud Cuir d'Arabie
Fumerie Turque
Messe de Minuit

B*Men ...he is the evil counterpart to the A*Men superhero....

Drakkar Noir- Better yet, concocting your own 'dark' elixirs. They do that here at the Sorcerer's Shop in WH.

Salvador Dali Pour Homme

Oh dear, oh dear.

Considering the title of this thread I am shocked to see the general ignorance of some self-styled pagans who don't appear to know about the Doctrine of Signatures, nor, apparently the ancient origins and effects of magical substances. I am particularly puzzled by those who have recommended mass-market perfumes, most of which are wholly synthetic and which therefore have little if any magical effect.

It is one thing to intuitively choose a perfume to wear because it smells nice and quite another to specify a magical body oil for a committed pagan which should encapsulate the ethos of his or her beliefs. For example, our Snow Queen and White Goddess magical oils are designed to be used as an 'acumulator' which is worn by priestesses of the pagan religion who will each week draw down the egregore of the goddess during their Esbat ceremonies.

Just as in esoteric philosophy one can charge or vitalise or magnetise an object or talisman we can more easily charge and vitalise ourselves using magical oils which have the capacity to breach the skin, enter the blood and suffuse the blood brain barrier in order to attune the 'vibration' of the entire being to that of the god or goddess we hold in awe.

For a pagan priest we have for decades supplied Horned God oil, Kernunos Oil and a range of traditional, often historic formulae based on the gods and goddesses of all known pantheons.

In short the criteria for a fragrance for a Pagan is entirely dependent upon the spiritual development of that person, their gender, their state of initiation and which pantheon of gods they worship.

Additionally a pagan will also use different magical oils on both themselves and other people when wanting to calm a situation or create a special harmony between others. When moving into a new home, perhaps, or/and taking up a new job. Many pagan creative types in the know will employ magical oils when producing music, giving a performance or to aid the writing of books and articles.

Many people reading this forum will not be pagans and therefore will not believe this philosophy but if they have an interest in genuine aromatics they SHOULD know that the history of aromatics is intimately bound up with the sacred use of plants in pagan religions throughout the world and therefore I hope they will find these pointers from the organisation which has kept these secrets alive for over three decades, helpful, and as the moderators have already allowed a link in about Ruthvah for us I am assuming they will allow the following so that forum surfers and posters can see more background on this issue:

This is a list of some of the different magical oils which a pagan might use:

http://www.sorcerers-apprentice.co.uk/magoils.htm

and there is a masterly explanation of the use of aromatics in incense on:

http://www.sorcerers-apprentice.co.uk/incenses.htm

Lastly if you are searching for rare aromatics you will find what is probably the biggest aromatic ingredients list in the world here:

http://www.sorcerers-apprentice.co.uk/herboils.htm

We use ingredients from this list to prepare our own incenses and magical oils so the quality is exceptional

I am sorry if this posting sounds like an advertisement but we are world specialists in aromatics for esotericists and anyone seriously interested in it will find our website a mine of information - you don't have to register or buy anything to partake of this knowledge which, going by mis-statements on this thread, some people would really find useful. ;-)

All the best,

John Dennis, Manager, The Sorcerer's Apprentice, Leeds, Yorkshire U.K.

Black Phoenix alchemy lab cthulu

J.S. Sorrento Black

Salvador Dali Pour Homme by Salvador Dali.

Yep, has to be something from BPAL.

Incidentally, pagans are not occultists or devil worshippers. I believe that they worship earth and the forces of nature, not gods or devils.

Absolutely right !

I realize that pagans aren't satanic occultists, but do they typically resurrect dead threads?

Mandragore Pourpre .....

Yes, but it's a very strange season for that... usually only happens at Samhain.

ohhh, i'm thinking something dark like Lalique encre noire, or comme des garcons incense series avignon...
I seem to recall that Nemo was a little dark.
+1 to Dali and what about Bijan?

(at the top of the page, look up everyone's recommendations in the directory for details)

Black Phoenix Alchemy labs has one called snake oil i think.

of course, the other choice is soething like Mugler's alien...

Gengis Khan

Hilarious!

Well since evil and brooding scents are the name of the game, these two Soivohle scents immediately spring to mind:

T


Jcrich is correct that there is no devil figure in the pagan cosmology but perhaps he/she would care to check Webster's out.
Worshipping the forces of nature is animism.
The act of worshipping is occult because the cause and effect are unknown.
Ergo Pagans are occultists.

Perhaps jcrich wanted to say that Pagans are not Satanists.
Which is semantically correct though I've heard some very dark things on some Pagan forums ;-)

I added to this thread because although forum contributors may be bored with it the page is being indexed and used on the web.
We don't want to mislead any non-occult pagans in the future do we?

L'Artisan - FdA


smells like trees, pagans love their trees.

I'm quite amazed no one mentioned Black Aoud from Montale.

Yes johndennis, I was trying to say, in my clumsy way, that paganism doesn't mean satanism. But I stand corrected on my use of semantics.

Anyway, as Ricky Gervais said - "thank God I'm an atheist".

It certainly looks like BPAL are the ones to go for, just on names alone!