Unforgiveable: My thoughts

haven't smelled it but according to your review I look at it this way ( and i know puffy wears creed )

how many people have heard of creed?
how many people have heard of puffy?
how good does creed smell?
how good does puffy smell if you havent smelled creed?
how much do expensive natural oils cost for creed?
how much do synthetics cost for puffy?
how much money does that make for puffy?



i bet puffy still wears creed too

But how does it smell by itself? If you had none of your precious Creeds to compare it too, would you then find the juice to be satisfactory?

(I don't mean to be mean, just saying that's one way to look at it; most people buying Unforgivable aren't going to have tried a Creed before, so independently they might like it. Perhaps that's how you should approach this review)

As much as I want to worship Creed with everything they do, their reputation invites the ambition to encompass the same with another's creation of their own, and with the slight differential nuances carried in Bond No. 9 Wall Street and Creed's MI in Unforgivable, it's the wecomed combination of the two, and I sincerely am reaping the value of two-for-one with this one. The longevity is remarkable, so I don't feel too bad purchasing this, or at least waiting for a website to offer this at a better price. Wall Street may have a comparable longevity, but like I said, it combines the two elements between Creed and Bond No. 9.

Just because of the collaboration of Sean Jean and Estee Lauder (who makes JHL, btw) why does it make it less than what it is...it projects his intention to create something that rivals niche houses, and done remarkably so. Don't dis' the black Hip-Hop artist when the perfumer has zero-ed in on a plausible concoction that artistically combined the elements of two niche companies, and had done it well.

It undoubtedly will become popular because of the artist's reputation, but there is no reason not to wear it other than it's incumbent popularity.

I have the feeling that this won't come out in my country before next century...
So, because I'm curious I'll order samples on Ebay. I already know I probably won't go for a larger size, but I still want to be part of the action.

I know this:

It is a quality scent. Great for work and office environment.

It is selling like HOTCAKES. In the department stores I frequent, all you see in the fragrance case is the lone tester for sampling. THEY ARE SOLD OUT! I've seen that in 2 separate stores.

I've never seen a fragrance sell like that except for Christmas time.

I have agree with the first two posts here. There is something to be said for originality and artisanship, the ability to have a vision that goes beyond simply copying parts or the whole of what someone else has done. Puffy's scent may be of high quality, it may be popular, and it may be very flexible in where and how it can be worn, but that's all beside the point, which is that, at least to my mind, setting out to create a frag and doing that by simply copying the ones you like is unoriginal, uninspired, boring, and frankly, unethical. For me, it's a non-issue: the popularity of the fragrance will ensure that I never own a bottle, since I don't like smelling like everyone else I encounter. Still, as someone who values creativity, it bothers me that some folks did the hard work and research to create quality scents, and then someone who happens to be popular came along, stole those ideas, and used them to personally cash in.

Unethical? Nah, just Unforgivable.

Touché.

I like the scent and bought a big bottle and have been wearing most of this month. From coming from the Lauder group I have to say its their best stab yet at a men's scent since Estee's days in the company.

I would not call it cheep at all and agree totally with iMaverick's comments.

puffy doesnt care, puffy wants money. can you blame him? hes not a perfumer hes an investor.

The fragrance smells ok, but i refuse to put any of my money in to his pockets!

Personally I rather liked it, but recognized it as a copy of Dunhill for Men (2003).

Maybe it is just the musk?
K

I feel the same way.

I haven't smelled it yet and probably never will because i have no interest in it whatsoever! I don't care if smells better than PdN New York, FM Vetiver Extra., C & S No. 88 or any of my other favorites, it will be a cold day in Hell before i put a dime of my money into that arrogant, talentless thug's bank account!!

Mr. K.......you and I share the same view.




Great minds think alike!!

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I feel the same way.

I haven't smelled it yet and probably never will because i have no interest in it whatsoever! I don't care if smells better than PdN New York, FM Vetiver Extra., C & S No. 88 or any of my other favorites, it will be a cold day in Hell before i put a dime of my money into that arrogant, talentless thug's bank account!! [/quote]

he's pretty talented at getting money

I personally like it. Smelled it today and ended up getting the 4.2 oz bottle. I'm not a big fan of P. Diddy but I have to admit that I really like this frag. It's strikingly similar to Bond No. 9 Wall Street but only a fraction of the cost. As much as I detest P. Diddy, I couldn't resist buying this. To each his own.

I smelled it on a blotter at Macy's and liked it enough to spray some on the back of my hand.

I ended up not buying it because I couldn't smell it anymore after about ten minutes, but then some scents just don't linger on me.

The brand is no consequence to me, and I have nothing against the Sean John label; maybe his next one will stick to my skin better...

I had the same experience.

Just found this...which confirms my suspicions of Bond No. 9's similarity.

http://nowsmellthis.blogharbor.com/b...1/1789809.html

Whom should we blame now...the name behind the scent or the nose? Seems it's no far less in quality than we initially think because of our own preconceived prejudices.... :-?

What's in a name, folks!?! A rose by any other name....

I think it was very disrespectful for him to copy frags and put em together. Its just like bootlegging. And I don't think anybody wants somebody to copy off of them and get paid for something that you created. It pushes me closer to creed. I don't like fakes and never will. But who cares right. I care.

It's about time someone copied a Creed fragrance and commercially exploited it instead of the other way around.

On another note, I detect similarities between Unforgiveable and MI but not SMW, and at that I find Unforgivable far sweeter and tangier. I'll wear MI, but not Puffy's fruit-punch concentrate.

Well, maybe puffy is just taking notes from J Lo. She took China Rain - which she is reputed as wearing - put it in a cute bottle and called it GLO. I can buy the parfum oil of China Rain for $15, why would I buy GLO? I'll stick with the original.

Seriously, these are business people who take something that is already well liked and put their name on it in hopes that their name will sell the scent. No need to reinvent the wheel so to speak. BUsiness saavy, yes, original, no. :P

Just like his music, he copies everything and calls it his own. Â*Why can't respectable and talented musicians/artists/actors get into the frag business like David Bowie? Â*I'd wear his scent in a heartbeat! Â*And Marilyn Manson is not talented in case you were wondering about his new scent coming out!

I feel the same way.

I haven't smelled it yet and probably never will because i have no interest in it whatsoever! I don't care if smells better than PdN New York, FM Vetiver Extra., C & S No. 88 or any of my other favorites, it will be a cold day in Hell before i put a dime of my money into that arrogant, talentless thug's bank account!! [/quote]

I absolutely agree. And another reason I would never wear it is the ad, which I find offensive.

Wow, I was just about to start a thread saying what the original poster said, but I guess I'm not the only one thinking how *Unforgivable* this scent really is. I'm on spring break (back home in western Pennsylvania; nowhere exotic because I spend too much money on school and cologne), and over the last few days I did the rounds of the department stores to see what's new. When the first SA sprayed Unforgivable on a tester card, I was taken aback- I thought I might have been dreaming or something, because it smelled *exactly* like my Millesime Imperial. EXACTLY. I told the SA of the similarity (nay, blatant rip-off) between this and MI, but the lady had no idea who Creed was.

The next day I was still a bit upset (no, I didn't lose sleep over it or anything), so I decided to put my Millesime Imperial on, even though it was a bit of a cold and I like to wear it in the warmer weather. I went to a Kaufman's to see if they had Givenchy's Very Irresistible for Men (the only new-ish scent I didn't get to try yet; they had it and it was actually pretty nice... do yourself a favor and try it on the skin and not the card), and after being greeted by the lovely lady SA there, she said, "Well, I see... er... smell that you're already familiar with the Sean John Unforgiveable" ARRRRGG!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > After explaining that I was in fact wearing the real stuff (MI), which came out nearly a decade ago, she was somewhat intrigued. She was familiar with a few Creed frags, but mainly the women's line (or so she claimed, but I trust her because she was one of the most knowledgeable SAs that I've met).

Besides the unforgivably blatant rip-off, the thing that upsets me most is the fact that I've been wearing MI for quite some time now (and I doubt many college-age kids do), and have been getting nothing but raving praise for it. Now that there is a cheap-ish knockoff of it, I'm afraid of more people confusing my MI with this Sean John crap. My nose can tell the difference between the two (Unforgivable smells pretty synthetic to me, and the drydown is garbage compared to MI's), but most people don't get close enough to get a whiff or don't have as good of a nose. It's a shame you can get away with making something so uninspired and blatantly copying another fragrance. If MI were US currency, I'd have the Secret Service investigate Unforgivable, because it's obviously counterfeit. If MI were a novel, Unforgivable would be it's plagerization, and Creed would be able to sue for copyright infringement. How anyone has the audacity to copy a classic and pass it off as their own, I don't know. Oh well...

In better news, at the local TJ Maxx, they had M7 deodorant for $5, shower gel for $5, and aftershave balm for $10. Now if there just were any juice left in my bottle, I'd be set...

Ummmm, MI is mostly synthetic....many people get allergic reactions to real essences of lemon, bergamot and other citrus, especially when exposed to the sun. Perhaps you mean 'less refined'?

As a follow up to my previous post, I still like the smell of Unforgivable...but longevity sucks BIG TIME for me. I've been wearing it a lot for work during the past week. I usually spray myself 6 times before I leave the house. By the time I get to work (30 minutes later), it's barely detectable. And I thought MI's longevity was poor. Nonetheless, it would probably last longer in the warmer months. We'll see soon enough.

I noticed that when I first tested this, it was actually long lasting, then again it was probably because my body heat was up, running around and it gave off noticeable presence. But when using it now, while doing "normal" activities, like lying on the couch (hehe), I barely get a whiff of it at all. This one needs body heat release a better diffusive effect on it.

On my skin it lasted for 2-3 hours ( 3-4 sprays ) and on a paper strip it lasted for a week!