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[WINE] The Great Cork Debate

post #1 of 6
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Happy New Year everybody!

For my first wine thread of the year I'd like to discuss the use of real versus artificial corks. This is a subject of some considerable debate these days. Many companies are now using plastic-based "corks". What do you think about this?

There is concern that the plastic might alter the taste if left in contact with the wine too long...but (to play the Devil's advocate here) you can say the same thing about a natural cork, yes?

I bring this up because I've had a bit of an unlucky streak with 'corked' (bad) bottles lately - after years of never having any trouble I've gotten three bottles recently that I had to return. One of them was unbelievably bad, but the other two were more subtly defective. If I had not been already familiar with those two (from drinking 'healthy' bottles before) I might have just thought it was not a good wine. And of course all these bad bottles had natural corks.

All of the Beaujolais Nouveau I have enjoyed this year has had plastic corks, but of course this kind of wine avoids the concern about plastic and long term storage - it is a very young wine meant to be enjoyed immediately. But what about a bottle that will not mature for a few years? What then?

My opinion? I do not buy wine to cellar it, I buy it and I drink it. I have had some trouble with natural cork, and I have yet to personally perceive any shortcomings of artificial corks, so I vote plastic.

What say you?
post #2 of 6
I don't really have much to add to my response to a previous thread on corked bottles, but as about half the wine I buy is to put in my cellar I am eager for a solution to be found to this problem!

Astronomers can guess which elements are in the atmospheres of Jupiter's moons from millions of miles away: Surely it is not beyond the wit of man to come up with a device to detect cork taint in bottles before the wine is sold? Something to sniff stray TCA molecules drifting from the cork? Or a spectroscope that detects them swirling around in the air between the wine and the cork? Every wine store could have one, in the same way they have UV lights to pick up dodgy banknotes.
post #3 of 6
I don't have a wine cellar, but I do have a wine rack! Which, on a serious note, concerns me -- the proper storage of wines.

I don't have anything intelligent to add to this thread, but I did, at one time, collect corks from wine bottles and those plastic corks did not go with my "collection" at all, and I didn't want to start a plastic cork collection. :-[
post #4 of 6
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Originally Posted by Mike_C

...I am eager for a solution to be found to this problem!

Agreed, Mike! But isn't it possible the answer has already been found? I look at all the fuss over plastic corks and it seems to me the debate is pitting a possible long-term imperfection of plastic against the known and highly documented failings of natural cork. Or am I missing something here?
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Originally Posted by Ladylonestar

...I did, at one time, collect corks from wine bottles and those plastic corks did not go with my "collection" at all, and I didn't want to start a plastic cork collection. :-[

Loney, my dear, I hadn't even considered that. You're quite right - the natural corks have an aesthetic that can't be beat...or at least the plastic ones haven't done so yet. But maybe in the future? I've seen quite a variety of plastic ones, and while some, admittedly, were pretty pedestrian, a few were quite attractive in their own way. OK maybe I'm reaching here :

For now I'm quite comfortable buying wine with a plastic cork. Next discussion: screwcaps! (Not really, I'm just kidding 8) )
post #5 of 6
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Originally Posted by spiritcvc

For now I'm quite comfortable buying wine with a plastic cork. ÊNext discussion: screwcaps! Ê(Not really, I'm just kidding Ê8) )

Well, the George Duboeuf Beaujolais Nouveau bottles I got this year had screwcaps! Also Penfolds claim they are best for some of their whites....

Maybe for those wines intended for quick drinking they are OK. Would not look good in any collection, though ;D

Trot
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Originally Posted by spiritcvc

For now I'm quite comfortable buying wine with a plastic cork.

Me too. I saw Andrea Immer speak about this on some TV show on the Fine Living network and she said the new plastic / other material "corks" were fine and offered almost zero risk of contaminating the wine, which can happen if you get a bad natural cork. I know its not traditional, but hey, we don't ride around on horses these days either.
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