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post #1 of 41
11/12/04 at 2:03am
Thread Starter 
Ok, should I buy Bandit unsniffed? It's probably not a good idea and quite hazardous for my well-being, but I'm curiously drawn to the idea of owning a bottle. A large bottle at that. And Eau de Parfum. Oh, dear....

For reference I love Cuir Mauresque and Gomma, but I'm not very fond of Cabochard.

So tell me, is this for me or not, or does it really matter? My health and sanity lies in your hands.

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post #2 of 41
11/12/04 at 6:52am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Concord

So tell me, is this for me or not, or does it really matter? My health and sanity lies in your hands.

Well, you lay quite a responsibility at our feet!

I love Bandit, but I keep hearing that there's a significant difference between the EdT and EdP versions, and I'm only familiar with the EdT, which is a dark, smokey, animalic leather. I've heard the EdP is more strongly floral (I don't understand the 'more floral' business, since I don't pick up any floral notes in the EdT). I haven't tried Cuir Mauresque or Gomma, so I can't compare them, but I do own and love Cabochard, and Bandit EdT is distinctly deeper and rougher than Cabochard.
post #3 of 41
11/12/04 at 1:13pm
I was obsessed last year with owning Bandit. I tried to wear it, but I just couldn't pull it off. I want to say that if you don't like Cabochard, then you probably won't like Bandit, however... you say you love Gomma. If you love and can wear Gomma, then Bandit will probably be a walk in the park for you. In fact, Bandit might be a little too tame for you. Just my humble opinion.
post #4 of 41
11/15/04 at 12:05am
Thread Starter 
Hmm. I might just order it. Play a little olfactory russian roulette, sort of.

The thing is most perfumes smell sweeter on me than on most people. Even Gomma smells soft and suedelike on my skin.

Thank you for your comments. I'll let you know what I decide.
post #5 of 41
11/15/04 at 4:39am
Are we talking about the women's Bandit?? I believe there's a men's version, as well. My hairdresser loves men's fragrances on herself. I gave her the women's Bandit last year, which she loved. I think it was the EDT. I agree that the EDP is quite different . . . much like Chanel 19 EDP smells more floral to me, than does the '19,' EDT. I think you will like the Bandit, more in EDT form. I'll have to check to see if there is a men's version. I'm almost sure there is. Have never gotten a whiff of that one.
post #6 of 41
11/15/04 at 4:54am
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mgarisbn

Are we talking about the women's Bandit?? Ê Ê

I have never seen the men's version so yes, it's the womens one I'm curious about. Now I want to try bopth concentrations. Sigh...
post #7 of 41
11/15/04 at 4:58am
Hi Concorde ... just checked. There IS a Bandit, for men. Fragrance X carries it. I wonder what that's like . . .
post #8 of 41
11/15/04 at 5:59am
Quote:
Originally Posted by mgarisbn

...There IS Êa Bandit, for men. ÊFragrance X carries it. ÊI wonder what that's like . . . Ê

Okay. I'm confused now. I thought there is only one formulation or "recipe" for Bandit. No? Yes? I know there is EdT and EdP, but I didn't think there is a men's and a women's version. ???
post #9 of 41
11/15/04 at 6:19am
Hi Ladylonestar . . . well, all I know is that they're calling it a 'men's' Bandit. As to whether we're in a 'unisex', NU type situation, I can't yet say. Let's do some research . . . I'll do some googling today, to see if I can get to the bottom of this all important question! Hopefully I'll confuse everyone, even more ;D p.s. to Ladylonestar: where's my recipe??
post #10 of 41
11/15/04 at 6:31am
Thread Starter 
Found this over at the guys' place. Still not sure what to think.

http://www.basenotes.net/cgi-bin/for...865264;start=3
post #11 of 41
11/15/04 at 6:47am
I do seem to recall someone telling me that there is one and only one formula for Bandit; however, there were different bottles for men and women -- actually not different bottles, but different color caps or lids. Anyone else heard this?
post #12 of 41
11/15/04 at 7:34am
I had not heard this, but I know that when Bandit was made, it was considered to be a women's fragrance. The models strutted down Piguet's runway show, sporting patches over one eye, and shooting cap guns. The scent was named in honor of American troups that 'stole' France back, from Germany. Will go the perfume encyclopedia, for more.
post #13 of 41
11/15/04 at 7:41am
Hi Ladylonestar . . . the encyclopedia of world perfumes lists TWO Bandit fragrances . . . one for women, one for men. But the men's fragrance has no info available at that site . . . no date, etc. Your info could be correct . . . unisex, with a different cap for the 'men's' version. We need to go to Piguet, to check . . . later . . .
post #14 of 41
11/15/04 at 11:30am
Hi, I tried to get into Robert Piguet, but the site is 'under construction;' that could take until the second coming to complete. The Good Scents Company lists only a women's Bandit. I suspect that's the case, but that it was so 'unisex,' that perhaps a 'men's' version evolved over time. By this I mean that perhaps the men's Bandit is the women's Bandit, but with a different colored bottle cap. Cedric may know, LadyLonestar . . .
post #15 of 41
11/15/04 at 4:23pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ladylonestar

I do seem to recall someone telling me that there is one and only one formula for Bandit; however, there were different bottles for men and women -- actually not different bottles, but different color caps or lids. ÊAnyone else heard this?

I looked around today . . . what you're saying, could be true. Although the men's version that I'm seeing online, with the tall gold cylindrical cap, looks just like the women's version that I gave to my hairdresser, last year. I remember that cap. Which means that it's possible that both the women's Bandit and the men's Bandit, are the same fragrance, being sold in the same bottle, with identical caps. :-/ I have forgotten now, even what I was talking about . . .
post #16 of 41
11/15/04 at 8:22pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ladylonestar

I do seem to recall someone telling me that there is one and only one formula for Bandit; however, there were different bottles for men and women -- actually not different bottles, but different color caps or lids. Anyone else heard this?

Here I sit, in my jammies, covered in Bandit...:-[....attempting to get to the bottom of this mystery. I was lucky enough to acquire a sample of vintage Bandit from a British eBayer last year (along with samples of Piguet's discontinued Bhagava, Futur and Visa). I have my own bottle of Bandit EdT (marketed as 'Bandit for Men' and sporting a gold cap), and I also dug out a sample of Bandit EdT that I received from a female friend (I'm assuming this to be the modern Bandit marketed for women). I really can't detect a difference between the two modern Bandit EdTs, but there is a difference between the two EdTs and the vintage Bandit. The vintage product is just as dark and dirty and leathery, but it also has a trace of that rich floral essence you find in some of the classic Carons, that's so saturated as to be almost unrecognizable as a floral note. The superficial top-notes are pretty much the same between the vintage and the modern stuff, though. Then again, I still haven't tried the modern parfum or EdP yet.........
post #17 of 41
11/16/04 at 4:10am
My Bandit EdP had a black cap. But... are there any labels on box or bottle that say "pour homme" or "pour femme", "Men", "Women", anything like that, whether EdP or EdT?
post #18 of 41
11/16/04 at 4:20am
??? Hi . . . I know that the one I bought for my hairdresser, had the gold cap. I puchased it from 1stPERFUME, under the women's listings. This really is an odd, marketing approach. Do not recall the 'sex' being specified on the box. I'll ask Rosemarie to look at her bottle . . .
post #19 of 41
11/16/04 at 5:51am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ladylonestar

My Bandit EdP had a black cap. ÊBut... are there any labels on box or bottle that say "pour homme" or "pour femme", "Men", "Women", anything like that, whether EdP or EdT?

Loney,
My Bandit doesn't have anything on the box or the bottle to indicate that it's 'for men': that's just the way it was being marketing on-line (and I can remember where I bought my bottle). The only difference I could discern was in the color of the cap (gold for men, black for women). But I was led to believe that the real difference is between the EdT and EdP, and I haven't tried the EdP. I'll have to send you some of my EdT.......
post #20 of 41
11/16/04 at 9:51am
Mark, I have a vial of the EdT. I agree with you about the florals. To my nose, it's not that the leather has been turned down but that the florals have been turned up. Seems to me the Bandit EdT is a new category -- Leather Floral. ;D
post #21 of 41
11/16/04 at 9:59am
To Mark, and Ladylonestar:

I GIVE UP. Can't we just wear Cialenga, instead??
post #22 of 41
11/16/04 at 10:09am
Quote:
Originally Posted by mgarisbn

To Mark, and Ladylonestar:

I Ê Ê ÊGIVE Ê Ê UP. Ê Can't we just wear Cialenga, instead??

No, darling. Not on this thread. :-* On this thread we're wearing Bandit, and by now thoroughly confusing Concord, who only wanted to know whether or not he should buy Bandit unsniffed. Hmm... I wonder what he decided to do?
post #23 of 41
11/16/04 at 11:17am
Hi Ladylonestar . . .

Poor Concord. He should have known better. ;D At any rate, if Concord buys Bandit unsniffed, and doesn't like it . . . someone else, will.
post #24 of 41
11/16/04 at 12:36pm
Well, I know nothing of a difference between a menâs and womenâs version of Bandit. However I have tried both the EdT and EdP of what I assumed was womenâs version both times. The EdT smelled nearly transparent on my skin and dried down to pale leather jacket. I wasnât all that impressed and wondered what the ruckus was about. Then this past, late summer I tried it in EdP. Wow- the stuff is heady- like nothing I had really ever whiffed before. Very different. I swore up and down I could smell orange flower over all that leather and smoke base. It was strong and much more floral than the EdT but hardly what I would consider ãpretty.ä Into the heart it did become almost pretty with jasmine and still something citrus-orangey- still to the floral but the ãstuffä underneath kept it from getting girly- or even what Iâd consider womanly. So darn unusual I was hoping that I had found a full-blown leather I could truly wear. Then the drydown happened and it sadly smelled of coal-tar, old boots, and ash trays with a distinct chypre tone (which is the kiss of death on me.)

Concord, if you check back in- Iâd say go for EdP. Itâs hardly girly and I think the drydown is exactly what youâre looking for. As usual: MHO.
post #25 of 41
11/16/04 at 12:40pm
Hi Artisan . . . have you tried Chanel 19 EDP? It too, is very different from the EDT, although again, I feel the end result is quite similar to the lesser strength. Just as with Bandit.
post #26 of 41
11/16/04 at 12:59pm
Hi mgarisbn-

Unfortunately No 19 turns into an evil, greenish, musty, dusty mess on me (simialr to Cristalle only more evil.) The only concentration I've not tried it in is parfum which- considering it's a Chanel- means I would probably love it in parfum. I think I was just too disgruntled with it to go the distance and hunt down a parfum mini on ebay. Perhaps one day I'll get the bug to try. Thanks for the thought though.
post #27 of 41
11/16/04 at 1:01pm
Here are the notes, for BANDIT

Chypre . . Floral Animalic

Artemisia, bergamot, gardenia, aldehydes

jasmine, orris, rose, carnation

moss, castoreum, patchouli, amber, vitiver, civet, myrrh
post #28 of 41
11/16/04 at 1:05pm
Okay, Artisan . . . just forget I ever mentioned it . . . there's enough evil in the world, already.
post #29 of 41
11/16/04 at 8:44pm
.....just get Tabac Blond Extrait instead...........!


Jeff
post #30 of 41
11/17/04 at 4:17am
Being the notorious blind buyer myself I say GO FOR IT!!!

But on second thought :-/
If you don't like Cabochard you might not like Bandit, either. IMO they have a lot in common, both being dry (=unsweet) and smelling like a leather jacket worn by a heavy smoker... Bandit is the Wild One and Cabochard the slightly more Mild One.
post #31 of 41
11/17/04 at 4:58pm
Boudoir is supposed to be very naughty although it didn't like me wearing it at all...Eau de Armpit to my nostrils. ???
post #32 of 41
11/17/04 at 7:01pm
??? Is there a men's Boudoir, I wonder? Does it come in the same bottle as the women's version, but with a different cap? Does it say men's or women's, or something like that, on the bottle? Also . . . is it true that Bandit has been . . . 'modernized?' ???
post #33 of 41
11/18/04 at 5:19am
Thread Starter 
Thank you for all your replies. Tabac Blond extrait is way over my budget right now, but something that's been on my wishlist for ages.

The chypre part is what worries me with Bandit and the reason I don't really like Cabochard (or Bel Ami), but I'm leaning towards buying it anyway. I'm thinking of ordering it from Strawberrynet, so I just need to figure out what other two scents to get so I get my 5% extra discount. Hmm.
post #34 of 41
11/18/04 at 5:29am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Concord

I'm thinking of ordering it from Strawberrynet, so I just need to figure out what other two scents to get so I get my 5% extra discount. Hmm.

;D That particular "saving method" sounds familiar...

Good luck for your order!
post #35 of 41
11/18/04 at 5:38am
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tigrushka


;D That particular "saving method" sounds familiar... Ê

Good luck for your order! Ê

Of course it's saving! Ê:

They have Royal Bain. Didn't see that before..*ponders*

Bal Versailles is awfully sweet, but oh, so beautiful!
post #36 of 41
11/18/04 at 10:36am
I tried Bandit EDP today based on this little discussion. Only on a card, mind, as I am scent-free at the mo. It's great - lots of dense leather, a streak of incense and a creamy floral heart - narcissus?

Highly recommended. It didn't strike me as particularly over-feminine, I think a guy could get away with it. Imagine Jules with narcissus.
post #37 of 41
12/12/04 at 4:29pm
Bandit was my very first 'blind buy', recently.
I have to say, after reading some of the polarised comments on various sites (like makeup alley) I was disappointed to find nothing very 'radical' about it. In fact to my nose it is sort of bland. (I got the Eau de P) and much more floral than leather. I have put it to the back of my cupboard, meanwhile, because maybe it will be a "grower" and when I am in a different frame of mind I might get to appreciate it. I also am straining to detect the carnation note in the floral, but i can't really.. (that was another thing that sold me on the 'idea' of Bandit). I have to say I much prefer Cabochard, so far. And even though I hated Cabochard at first, and grew to love it, at least it provoked an extreme reaction in me to begin with. i expected Bandit to do the same...alas.
post #38 of 41
12/12/04 at 8:33pm
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FYI - FragranceNet shows both men and women's versions of Bandit with different ingredients.
Women:

DESIGN HOUSE - Robert Piquet
YEAR INTRODUCED - 1944
SCENT - woody, arid
CLASSIFICATION - refined
FRAGRANCE NOTES - gardenia, rose, jasmine and vetiver.
RECOMMENDED USE - evening

Men

DESIGN HOUSE - Robert Piquet
YEAR INTRODUCED - 1944
SCENT - woody, mossy
CLASSIFICATION - refined
FRAGRANCE NOTES - leather with floral, mossy low notes.
RECOMMENDED USE - evening

JAG
post #39 of 41
12/13/04 at 6:23am
If Bandit works well with your body chemistry it'll smell great (naughty notes and all!) If it doesn't, fuhgeddaboudit! Imo, if you can wear civet, castoreum and smoke-y notes well, Bandit will work for you.
post #40 of 41
7/28/08 at 7:43pm
I was feeling alot like you and took the plunge and bought it. the EDP. The experience was great, I could actually smell something wonderful seeping thru the box before I even openend it. it was pure and sheer boldness and sexyness, together. I feel confident, beautiful and many many other great things when I wear this one. a little goes a long and mysterious way. you are sure to love it. trust me. Ray.
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7/28/08 at 9:43pm
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