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When life is a lemon, or my battle with citrus

post #1 of 31
Thread Starter 
It's freakin' JULY in Southern CA and the temperature's soaring. I'd like a good (naw, great) summer citrus but can't seem to find one.

My favorites are Le Roy Soleil Homme (which is more fruity than citrus) and Habit Rouge (which is an oriental) and neither should be worn in hot, humid weather.

OK that's what I like. Here's what I don't, but have bought blind on the strength of recommendations, and lived to regret:

( DISCLAIMER: This is strictly subjective, a matter between my nose and brain, so try not to hate me if you love these; please allow me to rant after all the $ I've spent. Thanks)

1. Armani Eau PH--Sorry, but this is lemon juice, period. I don't care if Giorgio made it for his private stock, or kept it in the cellar next to his best wines. About as boring as it gets.

2. Ferrari Black: An interesting cheapo scent by comparison to the sophisticated (?) Armani. This is a drugstore special. Mediocre but at least unpretentious.

3. Santa Fe: Ditto.

3. (Calude) Montana PH: Blundered and got the blue box, that's the new one and 'they' say the old juice was far better. If you've sampled both, please post. Gave it away to a friend. He got so many compliments he re-ordered. Body chemistry? I dunno. Wasn't anything to write home about.

4. Grey Flannel: I've reviewed it here on BN, too prom night rented tux retro. No one can accuse this one of being sophisticated or subtle. Overbearing as all get out. Too high a price to pay for longevity.

5. Hermes Eau D'Orange Verte: And here's the other extreme. My favorite of all the ones I'm bashing. Good juice! But applying throughout the day drove me nuts. Also gave this one away to a friend.

6. Cerruti 1881: Yawn. Another one in the 'sophisticated' category that's a snoozefest.

7. Ho Hang: Ho-hum, say is ths more sophisticated still?

8. Eau Savage: Ah! the masterpiece of sophisticated snooze! Basil tea on my hairy chest, with a twist of lime. May the cognoscenti enjoy it forever!

9. Bowling Green: What's this doing here? It's an aromatic, never mind . . .

10. Chanel Pour Monsieur Concentree: Ok, we're leaving the 'pure' citrus category (don't look now but we left it back at # 4. ) but what the hell, it's got strong citrus notes throughout, so gimme a break! I spent good cash on it. Can we say office scent'? Yeah vanilla drydown, so what? Not loud and offensive like Platinum Egoiste but . . .hey, I know! It's probably sophisticated!!! Quickly grew tired of it. No friends would take it . . .

11. Versace L'Homme: A tie with Eau D'Orange Verte, but I'm really cheating here. Citrus top notes but soon we're in grassy fougereland. Good juice, had to take a break from bashing.

12. (Geo F Trumper) Extract of West Indian Limes: Allright you might say, what was this idiot expecting, Bay Rum? No, just something memorable.

Well, there it is.

(sigh)

I FEEL SO MUCH BETTER

But I'm paranoid now. Or is it citrus-phobic?

When I'm told what great frags Blenheim Bouquet, L'Eau par Kenzo PH, Creed's Neroli Sauvage, Monsieur Givenchy, Signoricci or Eau de Rochas and Miller Harris Tangerine Verte are; I really, really want to try them, but I'm afraid to reach for the tester at the store, let alone order a decant.

HELP

Mario.
post #2 of 31


I feel your pain and frustration brother. Help is on the way. Check your PMs.

scentemental


post #3 of 31
I just sort of accept that, if it's citrus, it's short lived. There are two that I know of with better than usual citrus longevity: Bigarade Concentree by Federic Malle and Acqua di Parma Colonia Assoluta.

I can recommend Bigarade Concentree as an excellent long lasting citrus fragrance, but I am not sure if I, myself, will pay the price they are asking for it--citruses are not at the top of my list.

Colonia Assoluta, to my nose, has a little of that Eau de Lemon Pledge character though, Others don't agree with me.
post #4 of 31
I love Le Roy Soleil Homme, and have no problems wearing it in summer. I just picked up a 200ml bottle of Eau d'Orange Verte, despite slamming it months ago for its short longevity, and so far the need for once or twice re-application has not dimished my enthusiasm. I also own and enjoy very much Monsieur de Givenchy, Tangerine Vert, and Eau de Rochas Homme.

Purely on the basis of smell, I like any of the aforementioned better than Blenheim Bouquet, Neroli Sauvage, and YSL PH Haute Concentration. However, one other dirt-cheap contender that you have failed to mention, and that has excellent longevity, is Monsieur Balmain. I sincerely urge you to give this one a try.

All the best,

Jeff
post #5 of 31
Carthusia Mediterraneo!

Notes of lemon leaves rather than the lemon itself, lends to a longer lasting, more unique fragrance. I am also not a fan of Eau Sauvage and Armani Eau Pour Homme. One of the few citrus that works on me.
post #6 of 31
Quote:
Originally Posted by foetidus

I just sort of accept that, if it's citrus, it's short lived. There are two that I know of with better than usual citrus longevity: Bigarade Concentree by Federic Malle and Acqua di Parma Colonia Assoluta.

I can recommend Bigarade Concentree as an excellent long lasting citrus fragrance, but I am not sure if I, myself, will pay the price they are asking for it--citruses are not at the top of my list.

Colonia Assoluta, to my nose, has a little of that Eau de Lemon Pledge character though, Others don't agree with me.


Hi foetidus!

Did you ever try "Agua di Loewe" by Loewe? You will be impressed!

Have a look at my day time favs!
Normaly I must change my nick name in "Limonetto"!


.
post #7 of 31
Iceberg Twice is a good citrus that lasts a long time with great sillage...an underrated gem.


KO
post #8 of 31
I'd recommend trying Terre D'Hermes. It's an amazing summer scent, and I get this summer grapefruit cocktail thing going on. Kind of like taking Grapefruit and mixing it with some Vodka. Try it out and it has amazing sillage and longevity.
post #9 of 31
For me the basic problem of citrus scents is that no matter how fresh the scent itself is, your skin won't be after hours of sweating like a pig... no scent can smell fresh in those circumstances.
post #10 of 31
Eau D'Orange Verte is a very good scent, you should have kept it.

There are many good citrus out there but they are popular and worn to death (AdG, Issey, CK one summer). L'eau par Kenzo smells like Lemon Pledge initially but drydown to a sweet mango smell. Bulgari pour homme is nice but you will think it doesn't last, same with Armani Mania (this one last a few hours on me though). If you like Bulgari pour homme, you will most likely enjoy Mugler's Cologne, its not a citrus but its fresh - and if you are into Mugler's Cologne try Creed's Neroli Sauvage. And while you're there, try Creed's MI as well. L'Artisan has 2 citrus, they will not blow you away but they are classics. L'Occitane's Verbena smells lemony but suffered the same longevity problem as most citrus. You seems to like Dior's Eau Sauvage, maybe you should try YSL pour homme and Aqua di Portofino. Grey Flannel is not a citrus to me, its too mossy and if you're into Barbershop scents ,go for Eau Sauvage Extreme, it will last longer - it makes you smell like a barber.
post #11 of 31
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tigrushka

For me the basic problem of citrus scents is that no matter how fresh the scent itself is, your skin won't be after hours of sweating like a pig... no scent can smell fresh in those circumstances.

Well it's not citrus but there is ONE scent . . .

Here's how to use it:

1. Apply deodorant to armpits to cushion the alcohol burning sensation about to follow and then

2. Blast them with massive doses of Muscs Kublai Khan.

Won't be "fresh", but if one must sweat like a pig, I say: Do it in style and bring the house down!

Works every time.

Cheers,

Mario
post #12 of 31
I went over this thread quickly, because it is not the first one of its kind, so forgive if I should echoe something said before:

Monsieur Balmain is Lemon Peel (the oil)
and that lasts far better than average citrus scents.

Eau de Rochas
,homme
has about the same longivety as Acqua die Parma Cologne.

Scratching my head over Grey Flannel, the archetypical floral (violet concentrate) that comes to my mind when anybody propagates that floral colognes would be feminine! Gray Flannel a citrus?
post #13 of 31
what about YSL ph haute concentration ? I spray it even in my sleeping room, it keeps the moustiques away, as they hate lemon ! Now, if this isn't a proof of a major citrus scent, than I don't know anymore :-)

greetings fro a hot Belgium guys !
Be good !
Renz
post #14 of 31
I love citrus, it's probably my favourite style of scent.


from what you have written you could try -

Capucci pour homme - quite long lasting, not too expensive and really clean.

Acqui Di Parma colonia - very different to the capucci, very sweet very lemomy at the top. In my opinion much better than the colonia assoluta. If you really pile it on it lasts quite well.

(My favourite is probably Bois de Cedrat which is a creed edt and thus a bit less expensive than the millisime range, doesn't last long though, so not what you are looking for I suspect)
post #15 of 31
There's nothing quite like Eau Sauvage! My all time favourite.
post #16 of 31
Mario! Only true citrus scent I care owning is Trumper's GFT. This comes from a guy who have had similar feelings when it comes to citrus, so you might want to try this one. It has great longevity, and even the dry down is truly fresh and natural smelling. In a way it's masculine and long lasting version of Eau d'Hadrien.

Now that I read your post again, I noticed that you might not be that excited about this one. After all, it's kind of hmm... sophisticated I guess, and also somewhat standard citrus, you might think it's boring. Green basenotes gives it some depth and it really is a joy to wear in hot weather. For me citrus scents aren't about being unique or original, it's all about the execution. For me Trumper's nailed it.
post #17 of 31
Creed Neroli Sauvage is one of my favourites.
post #18 of 31
L`Eau Par Kenzo Pour Homme is a great citrus, starts of with a huge burst
yuzo and settles down nicely,fresh and long lasting on me.
post #19 of 31
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mario Justiniani


But I'm paranoid now. Or is it citrus-phobic?

When I'm told what great frags Blenheim Bouquet, L'Eau par Kenzo PH, Creed's Neroli Sauvage, Monsieur Givenchy, Signoricci or Eau de Rochas and Miller Harris Tangerine Verte are; I really, really want to try them, but I'm afraid to reach for the tester at the store, let alone order a decant.

HELP

Mario.

Hi Mario,
When you want expert advice on longevity, why not ask the expert - me? (though that's about the only thing I'm expert at around here).
To me it's irrelevant if you can sort of smell the scent 8 hours later by sticking your nose against your skin and barely detecting it - I don't consider that scent to have lasted that long, while others consider that it has.
With the exception of L'Eau D'Issey, beware of any scent with the word "Eau" in it's name - it is usually shorthand for "shortlasting".

Blenheim Bouquet - good for 2 hours
L'Eau par Kenzo PH - good for 2.5 hours
Creed's Neroli Sauvage - don't know
Signoricci - don't know, but her Ricci for Men is a citrus good for 2 hours,
Eau de Rochas - good for 4 to 5 hours, very classy,
Miller Harris Tangerine Verte - good for two to three hours.

If you want long lasting purer citrus scents go for
D&G Homme &
Aqua di Portofino EDT, both are good for 7 to 8 hours.
Aqua di Portofino EDP lasts even longer.
Eau de Rochas and Biotherm Aqua Fitness are only good for around three hours less than the above.

Absolute best not-pure-citrusy scent is Azzaro Chrome - never lets you down.

Other good 7 to 8 hour citrus woody ones include,
Versace Green Jeans - if you want citrus and pine, this one lasts much much longer than Blenheim's Bouquet.
Tonino Lamborghini
Zipped Sport (Perfumer's Workshop - the people who make Samba)
Benetton Sport
Rectoverso Man: Blue Atoll - if you want something like Escape but with lime.

Somewhat shorter lasting than the above by two hours is Cerruti 1881.

Other long lasting scents with a strong citrus component, though you may not class them as citruses, are Sung Homme and Halston Z-14.

As for long lasting Niche Citruses - I don't know - I haven't come across any as yet.
Renato
post #20 of 31
I find eau d'orange vert to be lasting on me.
post #21 of 31
How about Krizia's Spazio. Increasingly difficult to find as it is discontinued, but it is a superb citrusy balsamic scent that lasts well on me.
post #22 of 31
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragrant Counterpoint

I find eau d'orange vert to be lasting on me.

To quote the House of Emerson, Lake and Palmer: "Uhhhhh, what a lucky man he was" :-)))
post #23 of 31
Balmain Monsieur is great.
I can also second Acqua di Portofino, though you may perhaps find this too conventional.
Love Clinique Happy, drawback: you have to carry a 1-gallon atomizer with you to refresh constantly.

But what you really ought to try is Harrisa by Comme des Garcons. An incredible blood orange scent with hot spice. Not a long-distance runner either, but incredibly good and absolutely unique.
post #24 of 31
Try Annick Goutal Eau d'Hadrien or the more long lasting Eau de Sud.
post #25 of 31
I'm for Monsieur Balmain too! An other possibility (not really a citrus, but a citrus/fruity fragrance): Caron's Eau Forte
post #26 of 31
Quote:
Originally Posted by tmp00

Try Annick Goutal Eau d'Hadrien or the more long lasting Eau de Sud.

When it's Hot and humid....there are 5 go to's in my book.

1. Ligne St. Barth Homme (just discovered a week ago)
http://www.lusciouscargo.com/Merchan...oduct_Count=19
2. Imperial Jade Emperor
3. Eau du Sud
4. Eau Sauvage
5. Armani EPH
post #27 of 31
I feel your pain.

Tabac Original
YSL PH Haute Concentrate (or the original)
Caswell Massey No. 6
Live Jazz
Kouros Fraicheur
Moustache
LV Uomo
Guerlain Vetiver

Or go for something wildly different: Agua Brava.

You might consider switching to Habit Rouge EDC or Legere (I haven't tried legere). Dunhill '34 works well in hot weather, but I think you might have that...
post #28 of 31
I am curious what will you think about

Moschino Friends

D&G Masculin

CSP Pamplemousse

as these are the first ones that came to mind when I read your post
post #29 of 31
I'm not sure if anyone else has suggested this (as I just grazed this posting), but Eau de Verveine by Heeley is lemony but "breezy" - smells great and light but not like a cleaning product, my only concern is longevity, I haven't really gotten a handle on how long it lasts, maybe someone else could fill in here.

-Ian
post #30 of 31
Here's a supposedly high-tech solution:

Acqua di Roma, which is very grapefruity, claims to have integrated a new time-release technology, which effects an absorbtion and then a long-term continuous release of the "greatly desired topnotes." I tried it yesterday and the grapefruity smell (it's supposed to be rhubarb and watermelon) did last quite some time. It is rather linear, not highly sophisticated but positively refreshing and really nice for oppressively hot days. Liked it alot and will probably buy it.
post #31 of 31
(Sorry about the late post. I just started surfing the forum very recently.)

I'm surprised Boucheron PH hasn't been mentioned (or has it?)
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