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I found a wearable Vetiver.

post #1 of 38
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Usually, Vetiver has been a scent I avoided. Guerlain's Vetiver was very earthy and put me off on Vetiver as a cologne. Last week, I tried Creed's Vetiver cologne and it was a soapy cologne and was perhaps the polar opposite of the Guerlain - I never noticed this earthiness. Yet, Frederick Malle's may be in the exact middle. My wife usually says with a cologne that she hates it. If it is nice, she will grow to love it. Yet with Malle, she said it was barbershop-like (she says that as a slam, meaning that it smells what she remembered her Father's colognes as growing up and she said it all the time when I wore Trumper's Spanish Leather). The Malle seems not as soapy as Creed's, and the earthiness is muted. I do not know if this is one I go ga-ga over, but the take is very nice and very wearable. I can see this being a great summer cologne. Priced right, I would get a bottle to keep for Saturday mornings or casual days, very easily wearable. It does not make a "statement" which is the sort of scent I like. Some may say there is no artistic vision, but perhaps Malle wanted something wearable. Nicely done.

Sam
post #2 of 38
It's a superior fragrance. Quality all through. Cerebral and a bit aristocratic.
post #3 of 38
I'm not a big vetiver fan but another two extremely wearable vetivers, IMO, are:

- L'Occitane Vétyver
- Adolfo Dominguez Vetiver Hombre.

I would have added Carven Vétiver, but it is ridiculously fleeting.
post #4 of 38
Welcome to the VE appreciation club!

It was the first (and so far only) vetiver fragrance that I eventually 'got'. A brilliant summer scent - I just wish it wasn't so darn expensive.
post #5 of 38
Malle's Vetiver....wearable? Yikes! I tried to like this because I love vetiver. I have even been known to wear straight vetiver essential oil which is thick and viscous and smells like dirt. Malle's version to me is like lighter fluid (pure ozone) and burning grass. I wouldn't say it's between Guerlain's version and Creed's, it's at an extreme all on it's own. In fact, it's in outer space it's so strange.
post #6 of 38
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Originally Posted by paintrman

Malle's Vetiver....wearable? Yikes! I tried to like this because I love vetiver. I have even been known to wear straight vetiver essential oil which is thick and viscous and smells like dirt. Malle's version to me is like lighter fluid (pure ozone) and burning grass. I wouldn't say it's between Guerlain's version and Creed's, it's at an extreme all on it's own. In fact, it's in outer space it's so strange.

Ridiculous.
post #7 of 38
Not ridiculous. Simply my opinion which the last time I checked...I was allowed to have. This is a good time to bring up something important to me. I think it's OK to be critical about a fragrance (they don't have feelings). I mean, that's what Basenotes is all about. We are learning to discern good from bad fragrances. We are here to share our opinions about different fragrances. It's not cool to judge someone else (people have feelings) or to criticize their opinion.
post #8 of 38
Finsfan, I must say I'm very surprised that you found Malle's to be not earthy. It has (I think) the highest concentration of vetiver oil out there, and vetiver it itself a very earthy, grassy smell. Still, you get what you get, so congrats and enjoy!

I myself also appreciate Malle's but because I would describe it as earthy and extreme! I also do not like Guerlain's, mainly because it smells cheap to me (the citrus part smells fake somehow). Creed's OV is a little too soapy for my tastes, the 1948 one I enjoy more - crisper and brighter. Another of my favorites in the citrus and vetiver category is Mazzolari's Vetiver.

That said, my overall favorites tend to be more non-traditional blends, like Luten's Vetyver Oriental or even Tonatto's Albi. Vetiver has a tendency to dominate what I can smell in a scent, so I like when it's one smaller component of the scent.
post #9 of 38
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Originally Posted by pluran

Ridiculous.



post #10 of 38
Thread Starter 
Just goes to show you how the skin chemisty is so important. I let a girl who loves to smell all the samples on me, smell it. She thought on me it was fresh, clean and nice. Not one of those that she just LOVES on me, so that mirrors my wife's take on it. It has some legs on it. So i put up a pen I want to trade so I can get some of this stuff

Sam
post #11 of 38
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Originally Posted by pluran

Ridiculous.

No it's not.


Dan
post #12 of 38
Sorry for the dupe. My PC's been hanging up.
post #13 of 38
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Originally Posted by finsfan

Usually, Vetiver has been a scent I avoided. Guerlain's Vetiver was very earthy and put me off on Vetiver as a cologne. Last week, I tried Creed's Vetiver cologne and it was a soapy cologne and was perhaps the polar opposite of the Guerlain - I never noticed this earthiness. Yet, Frederick Malle's may be in the exact middle. My wife usually says with a cologne that she hates it. If it is nice, she will grow to love it. Yet with Malle, she said it was barbershop-like (she says that as a slam, meaning that it smells what she remembered her Father's colognes as growing up and she said it all the time when I wore Trumper's Spanish Leather). The Malle seems not as soapy as Creed's, and the earthiness is muted. I do not know if this is one I go ga-ga over, but the take is very nice and very wearable. I can see this being a great summer cologne. Priced right, I would get a bottle to keep for Saturday mornings or casual days, very easily wearable. It does not make a "statement" which is the sort of scent I like. Some may say there is no artistic vision, but perhaps Malle wanted something wearable. Nicely done.

Sam


I'm also a fan of vetivers and I specially like this one as well. With 25 percent more vetiver, it sets it apart from other commercial vetivers that's out there. I have smelled Creed's vetiver offerings and tried Trumper's Spanish Leather a week ago-----this Ropoin's creation is in a different category. I agree with you there!
post #14 of 38
Thread Starter 
Also, Malle's vetiver is close to the skin on me, and has average longevity, so those factors may help make it palatable to my nose

Sam
post #15 of 38
I don't like the Creed 1948 Vetiver at all. I actually gave away my almost full bottle to a friend (who happened to like it luckily). Out of the Creeds I prefer the OV.

My favourite vetiver will always be the Guerlain!
post #16 of 38
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Originally Posted by Sandalwood

I'm not a big vetiver fan but another two extremely wearable vetivers, IMO, are:

- L'Occitane Vétyver
- Adolfo Dominguez Vetiver Hombre.


Absolutely d'accord. They are quite different from each other, but both are simply fantastic. L'Occitane is more straightforwardly Vetiver: earthy, dark foresty, yet clear and focused, while Adolfo's is to me the quintessence of sophisticated freshness. A masterful blend interweaving a great number of notes into the seemingly effortless perfection of a sparkling emerald.

P.S.: for all the buzz about Guerlain's Vetiver, I personally find it nauseating. Everything it potentially has to offer is drowned out by an obnoxious "stale cold smoke from a low quality cigar" note. Tried it twice and had to scrub.
post #17 of 38
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Originally Posted by the_good_life

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P.S.: for all the buzz about Guerlain's Vetiver, I personally find it nauseating. Everything it potentially has to offer is drowned out by an obnoxious "stale cold smoke from a low quality cigar" note. Tried it twice and had to scrub.

What I find amazing from reading this talk board is how different people's noses are! We all pick up different things from these scents. It seems there is no "good" or "bad", only what we experience for ourselves. For me, Guerlain's vetiver is the ultimate freshness and beauty, and will always be in my collection.

Sometime soon I need to explore stuff like Adolfo Dominguez Vetiver Hombre mentioned above, but I've not even heard of it before. I also want to try the L'Occitane but even though there is a dedicated L'Occitane counter at my local Allders store, they don't have the vetiver for some reason.
post #18 of 38
Malle's Vetiver is a powerhouse. It is not subtle, its in your face. I wore it yesterday from morning on and I still smelled it in the evening. I love it. I thinks it my favorite Vetiver because it's so one dimensional, it's Vetiver and thats it. I personally don't get the whole lighter fluid thing. It's strong stuff, so either you like or you don't.
post #19 of 38
This is a Vetiver that I too can wear. I also like the Original Vetiver by Creed...it is very classy.
Lanvin's Vetiver is another very nice vetiver, I also like the L'Occitane Vetiver...This is one note that I have to be cautious with myself....Some V's are just way too much for me....I find that these that I have mentioned work best with my skin.
Gary
post #20 of 38
I am not proud of the fact that I have never tried Guerlain's Vetiver. I will make that a goal before the year is out. I love MPG's Racine and L'artisan's Vetiver but need to try the Guerlain.
post #21 of 38
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Originally Posted by paintrman

I am not proud of the fact that I have never tried Guerlain's Vetiver. I will make that a goal before the year is out. I love MPG's Racine and L'artisan's Vetiver but need to try the Guerlain.

Nice website by the way, and what wonderful and unusual paintings. One to bookmark for sure! I hope you will try the Guerlain. Whether you like it not will remain to be seen. Some people love it while others dislike it!

I need to try the Malle, with a totally open mind, and will get some samples soonish from Les Senteurs. I just hope it's not anything like the dreaded Goutal Vetiver, one of the most aggressive potions I've ever inhaled (on a cardboard strip luckily).
post #22 of 38
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Originally Posted by the_good_life

P.S.: for all the buzz about Guerlain's Vetiver, I personally find it nauseating.

I do too. It's definitely a love/hate frag ... not many in-betweens. I'm not a very big vetiver fan, but I find it to be the most harsh of any vetiver I ever sampled.

Sounds like I need to try L'Occitane's vetiver next.
post #23 of 38
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Originally Posted by G.303

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Lanvin's Vetiver is another very nice vetiver......
Gary

Re: Lanvin -- I've seen a bottle at knock down price (£9) at my local chemist, Perhaps I should just get this? Everyone seems to have a good word for it.
post #24 of 38
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Originally Posted by GenuineImitationLife

Re: Lanvin -- I've seen a bottle at knock down price (£9) at my local chemist, Perhaps I should just get this? Everyone seems to have a good word for it.

I got this one for 10 quid at Tesco's and it's a nice frag.But that's all I can say about it,It's a vetiver frag(that's what the name says) but I can tell you the vetiver is well hidden in there,you can feel it but it's not in your face however it's nicely rounded by the other components.It starts off with lemon and sweet lime as well as juniper which are all nice ,think of Cerruti Image,I don't quite like the drydown,I actually prefer Cerutti Image to this one,Lanvin Vetiver seems to sweet to me in the drydown whereas Image is more peppery!
All in all it's an ok formal fragrance.
You may also try Image,I think it's quite nice for a formal meeting or office wear.Like I said Lanvin vetiver seems to sweet to me.
post #25 of 38
Malles Vetiver does smell earthy, but its strangely muted and linear. Far from a powerhouse. However, it is one of the only 3 vetivers which I consider wearable (Creeds OV, Guerlains Vetiver being the other two). I havent tried Creeds '48 vetiver. Guerlains Vetiver strikes the best balance so far.
post #26 of 38
Thread Starter 
I will agree that Malles Vetiver is Linear, and I will say for me it is the only wearable one I have found. It is short lived and it has little projection. However, when ladies are asked to sniff my neck, not a one has said they do not like it.

Sam
post #27 of 38
Malle VE to me is a mix of earthy and clean, warm and cold, with the high concentration of vetiver juxtaposed with the ozonal note. Quite possibly my favourite vetiver, it also last very well on me and gets the most compliments.

Guerlain is a close second. I personally like the citrus, vetiver, tobacco and tonka evolution - agree not as linear as VE.

Unfortunately I own Goutals and agree it is horrid. I use it as very expensive air freshener.

Not a fan of Domingez V Hombre. Got a bottle cheap on clearance, smells like cheap fly spray to me.

Thinking of picking up Lanvin V (and Lanvin Homme) really cheaply.

Ged
post #28 of 38
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Originally Posted by paintrman

Malle's Vetiver....wearable? Yikes! I tried to like this because I love vetiver. I have even been known to wear straight vetiver essential oil which is thick and viscous and smells like dirt. Malle's version to me is like lighter fluid (pure ozone) and burning grass. I wouldn't say it's between Guerlain's version and Creed's, it's at an extreme all on it's own. In fact, it's in outer space it's so strange.


I agree with Paintrman on this one. I know Malle's VE is highly lauded by many on this Board, but I find it unwearable. There's something about this fragrance that smells "fishy" to me. And the ozone note is not something I find pleasant. I'll take Guerlain's Vetiver or MPG's Racine any day over the Malle rendition of vetiver.
post #29 of 38
anyone know where I can get some samples of the Malle Vetiver, Luten Vetiver, Creed's OV and L'Occitane Vétyver? I've tried the Guerlain and I really hated it. Since then, I've been scared off by vetiver scents.
post #30 of 38
I got my Malle sample by visiting the website. Hold on, I'll post a link.

http://www.editionsdeparfums.com/

Just ask nicely and hopefully, in a few weeks they will show up on your door. I also asked for three specific samples. They sent what they wanted because a couple of the samples I was looking for, they were out of at that time.
post #31 of 38
Thanks Kelley!
post #32 of 38
Damn!

"Editions de Parfums Frédéric Malle website is closed from the 3rd of August till the 20th of August 2006, inclusive.
We will be pleased to answer your requests from the 21st of August, 2006. "
post #33 of 38
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Originally Posted by GenuineImitationLife

What I find amazing from reading this talk board is how different people's noses are! We all pick up different things from these scents. It seems there is no "good" or "bad", only what we experience for ourselves. For me, Guerlain's vetiver is the ultimate freshness and beauty, and will always be in my collection.

Sometime soon I need to explore stuff like Adolfo Dominguez Vetiver Hombre mentioned above, but I've not even heard of it before. I also want to try the L'Occitane but even though there is a dedicated L'Occitane counter at my local Allders store, they don't have the vetiver for some reason.

I can see you live in britain so try this site for a cheap bottle of A Dominguez vetiver www.dutyfreeperfume.co.uk it was £10.00 for a 120 ml when i got one last year.
post #34 of 38
I never cared for any Vetiver scents but I do like some "vetiver-like" scents like Gucci Envy & TM Cologne. I would describe Envy as an "oriental vetiver" if there ever was one. Also, some people have mentioned that Creed OV ripped off TM Cologne. Having never smelled OV, I can't comment.
post #35 of 38
Thanks for the link fenton.

manicboy, Creed OV and TM Cologne are similar, but not the same, especially once into the drydown. TM Cologne is excellent, but the Creed is far smoother and in my opinion better. I don't believe either of them deliberately "ripped off" the other; it's probably just a co-incidence that there is some likeness present.

Out of the Creeds OV is much better than Vetiver (1948) as far as I'm concerned.

Personally, in the long term when it comes to vetivers, I will stick with Guerlain, because to me it is the most perfect interpretation of (my idea of) what a classy vetiver scent should be. It's a mystery to me how anyone could fail to adore it, but there you go.

As I said, our noses are all tuned very differently! After all, some people obviously buy, and possibly even enjoy Goutal Vetiver, or it wouldn't sell!!! Some of them, as a poster above ended up using it as room spray!
post #36 of 38
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Originally Posted by paintrman

I am not proud of the fact that I have never tried Guerlain's Vetiver. I will make that a goal before the year is out. I love MPG's Racine and L'artisan's Vetiver but need to try the Guerlain.

If you like Racine then I suspect you may very well like the Guerlain. They are not all that alike, but -very- similar in spirit: a relatively fresh vetiver (on the ground rather then buried beneath it ) encased within citrus ... the Guerlain is less sweet but more smooth.
post #37 of 38
I'm very fond of the Creed 1948, which I find both wearable and versatile. I also enjoy the SMN rendition, a very dry, citrus-free scent with some of what I would call the SMN medicinal quality.

Since this seems to be a popular thread for vetiverians, does anyone have views about L'Artisan Vetiver? It's a probable next vetiver for me, although I can tell it will only seem wearable when I'm in the right mood. And although I'm not yet sure what that mood is, I'm pretty sure it's a mood I'll have from time to time if the L'Artisan Vetiver is in my cabinet.
post #38 of 38
There are some people that say the L'artisan Vetiver is discontinued...but it's not. It's even still listed on the L'artisan website. My uncle Steve, in a panic, went to Dallas, Texas and bought up the last bottle at Stanley Korshak, thinking it was never to be found. I am laughing because it's still everywhere.

It's not a complicated fragrance. It's an earthy vetiver with citrus. It's long lasting and nice sillage (probably medium...not in your face but people will notice you). It's almost identical to MPG's Racine because Jean Laporte created both of them.
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