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post #1 of 39
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I have a nightly vodka martini.

I make it slightly dirty (olive juice) and slightly wet (a teaspoon of vermouth). I shake it vigorously and pour it in to a crystal classic martini glass with 4 (!) olives. Love them olives!

I'm also cost-conscious and I've done a lot of searching on the web for polls and expert opinions re what's the world's best vodka and also affordable...my budget eliminates some choices, like Grey Goose. I have been alternating between purchasing Absolute, Skye and Stoli, and to be honest, I don't notice a lot of difference.

Tasting/judging vodka, according to what I've read, is difficult because this is a spirit that ideally is NOT supposed to have a "taste" unless it's flavored. It's supposed to be smooth and filtered, which eliminates a lot of rot-gut, but, unlike, say bourbon, is not meant to meander from a very "neutral" taste.

You'd be surprised about the difference in opinions. Some polls think Absolute is garabage; other pick it as a winner. Some think GG is the holy grail; others think it's way overrated.

Of course, as in perfume, you drink what you like...my problem is that they all taste pretty much the same to me, as a novice drinker...while I would't mind paying another 5 bucks or so for something better than my current troika of Absolute/Skye/Stoly, is the next step "up" something that a beginer would notice?

What the experts say is that if you mix vodka, you can get away with a Smirnoff, but if you drink it straight, the premium brands are required. There's also a huge debate in the world of alcohol between vodkas made from wheat/barley etc vs. fruit, with many thinking the fruit-based vodkas, with very few exceptions, are inferior.

Another challenge I have is that the liquor store in my state are STATE CONTROLLED ABC stores. While I've read a lot about many great botique vodkas, like on called "Pearl of Russia," I believe, the state stores here only carry the recognizable brands. Not unlike doing your perfume shopping at the mall!

What's "your" vodka, and why? And what's your drink?
post #2 of 39
If you can't tell the difference, then buy by price.

I can tell the difference between potato and rye vodka.

My favorite vodka I can't get anymore, not sure if they are still making it: Stolichnaya Gold (I have tried their Elite and didn't like it)

As far as 'no taste at all', it's called Ketel One.

Favorite drink: Scotch-
Aberlour Distillery
A'bunadh
One ice cube, two fingers in an old-fashioned double glass.

When I make a martini, the glasses and vodka come from the freezer:
2-3 sprays from the martini mister on the glass (Martini and Rossi extra dry vermouth)
vodka to 1 cm of rim
one last spray on top
queen olive with pimento on a little plastic sword

I know what the 'dirty' martini is, but don't understand why you would waste good vodka with brine. (yeah, I know, to each his own)
post #3 of 39
Thread Starter 
"Dirty" is simply a term used to decribe the addition of olive juice. You're getting brine from the olives anyway. An additional 1/2 teaspoon simply adds a little zip/flavor and is just barely noticable; for me it does nothing to ruin the taste.

In fact, the two mix beautifully. That's why the classic martini--gin or vodka--HAS an olive or two. But of couse, as you said, it's a matter of taste.

Yeah, I freeze my glass and shaker also.
post #4 of 39
usually keep bottles of belvedere, grey goose and ketel one on hand at home, and love a good martini, with a touch of "dirt" and lots of olives

internet lore has it that popov run through a brita filter is as good as any of the ones listed above, but my brita pitcher is reserved for water only. (and i could no more bring myself to buy popov at this point than i could buy a bottle of chaps)

but i'm with radix, my drink is scotch.
i like mine neat, and usually something peaty like Lagavulin or Talisker
post #5 of 39
also, if i'm out at the bar and being cost conscious, i usually get a stoli & soda with a lime. it's good, refreshing and doesn't break the bank.
post #6 of 39
Thread Starter 
Any suggestions for a goodtasting, simple to make WARM/HOT vodka drink for the wintertime?
post #7 of 39
I was a bartender in S. FL for about 5 years. I would recommend Ketel One. However, I'm not a vodka drinker. I see no point in drinking alcohol for pleasure if it just tastes like alcohol. If you're going to mix it, the brand shouldn't matter that much.

I'm a beer man myself. I sample everything I can get my hands on. My favorite is a german wheat beer called Tucher Kristall Weizen (crystal clear). It has a thick head, slightly fruity aroma and taste, and no aftertaste. Women that don't like beer frequently like this stuff. There's also a Helles Hefe (light - most common version found in 12oz 6 packs and on draft in bars), Dunkles Hefe (dark), and Bajuvator (Doppelbock) versions. The Helles and Dunkles versions are cloudy due to remaining yeast sediment; very "hearty" beers. It is most prevalent in S. FL because that's where the importer is. I'm actually having a very hard time finding it up here in the Midwest.

I also like a seasonal specialty beer made by Dos Exxes called Noche Buena. It's an amber beer with a nutty flavor made around Nov. & Dec. It's very popular in Mexico and very seldom makes its way up here to the states.

Other than those, I drink Dos Exxes.

As far as hard drinks, i like Jack Daniels in various concoctions (neat, rocks, w/water, coke, etc.).
post #8 of 39
I have only tried vodka as a Vodka Cruiser (pre-mixed drink) - I don't go out much, so I haven't really tried too many drinks, other than Bacardi Breezers (another pre-mixed), midori & lemonade, strawberry daiquiri and cosmopolitan. And I've had sips of frangelico, sambucca, amaretto, baileys and a couple that i can't remember at the moment!!
I would love to try lots of different things, just for the sake of saying that I've tried it - plus, I'd love to be able to make cocktails! I have heaps of cocktail books - including one that showcases various cocktail bars around the world and their signature drinks (man, that would be one great world tour!! lol) -- thanks for the thread, it's an interesting one!

edit: I have had beer and wine, of course, but do they count?? lol
post #9 of 39
best vodka, hands down: hangar one. for their flavored ones, they procure the finest essential oils; for their straight one, you don't even need to chill it (in fact, like better wines and beers, too much chill kills the flavor). if you want a perfume analogy, they are the alaya senders of vodka.
post #10 of 39
For vodka I go for Absolut, simply because I like the bottle. I can tell a slight difference in taste between vodkas most of the time, but I stick with Absolut because it passes and I like to keep my variables the same (ie. if I use a different vodka in my classic recipe for "x" it will not taste exactly like it usually does.) My drink is most assuredly the Bloody Caesar, imbibed before noon (or thereabouts) the day after our first warm weather party of the year under the grapevines in our back yard. My "dog" has clam juice hair.

Martinis are usually gin for me, and very dirty (it's ALL about the olives.)

I'm more of a scotch girl. Oban for jazz bars, and Lagavulin or Laphroaig for cozy-ing up on a chilly day. Or for removing the varnish from my fingernails (the Laphroaig.) Alway, ALWAYS, neat. I will slip an ice cube in if I'm on the bum and drinking Johnny Walker Red. It certainly benefits from it.

Also go for a good Manhattan from time to time, but that must be made with Canadian whiskey.

I'll stop now. Gotta' go mix a drink. **hic**
post #11 of 39
Liquids: Ice House (bottles only), Peppermint Shnaps, and Absolut Vodka.

Combinations: White Russian. Irish Car Bomb, and Artilery Shell (Strawberry Smirnoff, Blackberry juice, Vodka, and a touch of Peppermint Shnaps.)
post #12 of 39
I prefer single malt scotch (Ardbeg 10 ), gin (and tonic), or beer (too many to list).
post #13 of 39
I don't drink anymore but when I did I drank lots of:

Vodka

Ketel One - There are many good ones but it satisfied on all acounts.

Scotch


The Macallan - 25 years old
Highland Park
Laphroaig
Various others

Beer

Many great ones in quantity

Bourbon

Makers Mark was my favorite

Wine

Red, often ultra-expensive and I can't remember the names - many of the great ones. Supplied to me by friends in the liquor business. God they were good. I learned over time that many good ones can be had for under $30-40.

I could drink a lot. I'm Irish.
post #14 of 39
Vodka - Grey Goose, Absolut

Sake - I love the Kubota, Otokoyama. These two are the more well known ones in the market. I also love the Japanese Plum Wine, it taste better with a bit of soda water.

Scotch - The Macallan - 12 years (I can't afford the older vintage), Johnny Walker - Blue Label (only when dad pays for it), The Balvenie and I normally have them on rocks

Beer - Not a beer fanatic, I do have a preference for the Irish ale for the robust taste. Kilkenny and Boddington are usually what I order from the pubs

Wine - I prefer red over whites and I also enjoy the bubbles
post #15 of 39
I go for Absolut when it comes to Vodka. One of my favorites is Absolut Mandrin with tonic. I love creating random mixes and they usually turn out well!

As for anything other than cocktails, I'm usually a wine person. Red, white or rose, as long as it's good.
post #16 of 39
i usually mix my vodka so i don't spend a lot of money on it, for example smirnoff or what have you (or if at a bar, whatever standard vodka they use.) the best vodka i have tasted, by itself, for the best price, is a vodka called russki standart. i don't even know if it's available in the us, if i am right i think there is this tendency in russia not to export some of their best alcoholic products (for example, i don't think the baltika brand of beer is available outside of russia, either. correct me if i'm wrong though, 'cause that is some great beer.) but anyways, this is a very good vodka and not expensive at all. you might be able to find it, possibly as "russian standard", but it might be more expensive with the export price? i have no idea how it works. just my 2 cents.
post #17 of 39
I usually prefersofter drinks like liquors.My latest picks are the two variations of Baileys:Cream Caramele is the one,Mint is the other.Even better was Drambuie Cream, though unavailable localy for the last couple of years.
post #18 of 39
Zubrowka
Russki Standart
Premium Peach (tasted this one in Kraków)
post #19 of 39
If I'm having a martini it has to be gin.

Plymouth Gin, Noilly Prat (and more than a coating of the glass - the classic martinis of yore would have c. one fifth vermouth - I prefer it a little dryer but only a little), 2 olives.

I also think its important to stir with ice rather than store all the ingredients in the freezer. The slight dilution brings out the flavours better IMO. Another reason is that if I'm going to the bother of making martinis, one isn't enough and any dilution helps in the 'not falling over before dinner' stakes!

BTW I did go through a faze of shaking my martinis - not in homage to 007 but because I liked the superchilled effect, the slowly clearing mist and the crunch of the remaining tiny ice crystals - it does result in more dilution though.

January is the month when I am almost completely dry - so forgive the somewhat drooling description!

Vodka - I don't drink it much. I keep a bottle of Stoli for Vodka & Tonic in warmer months. My favourite flavoured vodka is bisongrass (I have no idea what that is - a Siberian cousin to vetiver??) - I think Zubrowski do the top version of it.

Za vashe zdorovye!
post #20 of 39
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Originally Posted by michaeld39

My favourite flavoured vodka is bisongrass (I have no idea what that is - a Siberian cousin to vetiver??) - I think Zubrowski do the top version of it.

zubrowka = bison grass in Polish
(in Finnish it's called maarianheinä which means Mary's grass)

The grass grows in Poland and Belarus and the European bisons aka wisents (zubr in Polish, hence the name!) eat it. There's always a blade of it in a bottle of genuine Zubrowka.

The most famous manufacturer is called Polmos.
post #21 of 39
I normally appreciate beer and "caipirinha" but what I really, really like is Malibu Coconut Rum with mint and pineapple!
post #22 of 39
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Originally Posted by tigrushka

zubrowka = bison grass in Polish
(in Finnish it's called maarianheinä which means Mary's grass)

The grass grows in Poland and Belarus and the European bisons aka wisents (zubr in Polish, hence the name!) eat it. There's always a blade of it in a bottle of genuine Zubrowka.

The most famous manufacturer is called Polmos.

Wow - thanks for the info. How would you describe the taste? I find it difficult as I can't think of an obvious reference point.
post #23 of 39
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Originally Posted by michaeld39

Wow - thanks for the info. How would you describe the taste? I find it difficult as I can't think of an obvious reference point.

Hmm, it's difficult. But I would say it tastes "green", herbal and aromatic, it has a slight medicinal quality.

The strange thing about Zubrowka is that when you mix it with apple juice (they call the combo "tatanka") it tastes much spicier than when drunk straight. I get at least cinnamon, maybe even clove, perhaps also vanilla.
post #24 of 39
I like VOX, and Grey Goose. My favorite drink is Vodka Tonic with lime.
post #25 of 39
I'm a Scotch girl myself. I like the more expensive Scotches (Laphroaig) neat. When I'm out I usually get a Scotch and soda with J&B. However, I see nothing wrong with putting Scotch like Glenfiddich or Johnnie Walker Black with soda. I hate it when people try to flaunt their "alcoholic superiority" by protesting when I order a Scotch and soda. You know what? It's blended Scotch, get over it. It's my goddamn drink, I'll drink what I like. You feel morally superior? Good for you.

For vodka, I like a straight up vodka martini with Ketel One. Basically, you keep the vodka in the freezer, pour it into a frozen Martini glass, and add a twist. It's delicious. I haven't had any other types of vodka (Skyy, Stoli, etc.) since college, but I'm sure they're just fine.
post #26 of 39
I have tried one and it is pretty good.

Veronica's Vetiver and Vodka.

Chill a bottle of seltzer water.
Pour into glass over ice. Add vodka.
Add a splash of Khus Sharbat.
Stir. Voila!

I've tried this one, too.

Veronica's Vetivirgin.

Chill a bottle of tonic water.
Pour into glass over ice. Add gin.
Add a splash of Khus Sharbat.
Stir. Voila!

Khus Sharbat is available at Indian grocery stores or online at http://www.amazon.com/Kalvert-Khus-S.../dp/B000JMFCPW. I couldn't get the specific measurements or proportions except for the "Stir. Voila!", but knowing her, there aren't any.
post #27 of 39
I've never drank much, and can't now at all, but when I did I liked to do small shots of Stoli Peach. Something about it drank this way was irresistable to me!
I still have my cutesy vodka shot set--I'd keep them sitting in the bowl of ice and water to keep them freezing cold.
post #28 of 39
I'm rather simple: I like good ol' Stoli.

But i prefer Gin, either Gin tonic or with Ginger Ale. Lots of Ice. Even straight up.
post #29 of 39
Hands down my favorite vodka is Citroc. It is French. It is made from grapes. The nuance of taste is sublime. There is something sort of airy about it. It is also expensive.

Next in line would be Grey Goose. Slightly less expensive.

I could be happy with about 1/2 a shot on the rocks with a twist of lime or lemon, sipped slowly, while making dinner after a long day in the ER.

Or a kamikaze on the rocks. (This one was introduced to me by a Physician who insists that vodka, being more "pure" is much better for you than other forms of alcohol!) But I don;t know how to make this.

Or a White Russian, but not too creamy.

I also enjoy an occasional glass of red wine.

I prefer to buy a bottle of the more expensive vodka, keep it in the freezer and stretch it out over a period of time, than buy a cheaper brand I don't enjoy.
post #30 of 39
I´m not picky when it comes to vodka, but for drinking it straight, it should be made of rye (a good one is Moskovskaya), and served as icecold as possible. This is very important!
Some of my favourite drinks:
Bailey´s with gin (3/4 Bailey´s and 1/4 gin)
Gin tonic with lemon slice
Jack Daniel´s mixed with Coke Lime
Red wine mixed with Seven Up

and cold, please..
post #31 of 39
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Originally Posted by rtamara41

Or a kamikaze on the rocks. (This one was introduced to me by a Physician who insists that vodka, being more "pure" is much better for you than other forms of alcohol!) But I don;t know how to make this.

There is some substantiation to this. Hangovers are generally a case of dehydrated brain. In the process of fermenting and distilling, you don't just get alcohol, you also get aldehydes. Those go straight through the blood-brain barrier and leach water from your brain.

Vodka has the least amount of aldehydes by proportion to alcohol of the various liquors. I believe #2 is Scotch.

This does nothing to help you from the effects of just too much alcohol, of course.
post #32 of 39
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Originally Posted by radix023

There is some substantiation to this. Hangovers are generally a case of dehydrated brain. In the process of fermenting and distilling, you don't just get alcohol, you also get aldehydes. Those go straight through the blood-brain barrier and leach water from your brain.

Vodka has the least amount of aldehydes by proportion to alcohol of the various liquors. I believe #2 is Scotch.

This does nothing to help you from the effects of just too much alcohol, of course.

interesting. thanks for sharing.... suddenly it makes sense then that these are my two must often drunk spirits and i very seldom have hangovers.
post #33 of 39
I was amazed by an article about the most popular Russian vodkas that said, Stolichnaya was not well thought of. They reviewed vodkas that aren't imported and there were three that sold the most.

Looking at a Google search on "Russia + vodka" looked like a family squabble.

anyway good old Wikipedia weighs in here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vodka
post #34 of 39
Quote:
Originally Posted by radix023

There is some substantiation to this. Hangovers are generally a case of dehydrated brain. In the process of fermenting and distilling, you don't just get alcohol, you also get aldehydes. Those go straight through the blood-brain barrier and leach water from your brain.

Vodka has the least amount of aldehydes by proportion to alcohol of the various liquors. I believe #2 is Scotch.

This does nothing to help you from the effects of just too much alcohol, of course.

There's much more to it than that. Here's a decent article on hangovers:
http://cocktails.about.com/od/health...ngovr_101a.htm

Never take any aspirin, ibuprofen (Advil, etc.), or Acetaminophen (Tylenol, etc.) until at least "the day after." Personally, I use Chaser "hangover cure" and it really does work if you follow the directions. It doesn't completely prevent my hangovers but it considerably reduces the next day headache, nausea, and weakness/shakiness. There are other over-the-counter hangover cures out there but Chaser is the only one I've tried.

The article also mentions nicotine poisoning from smoking too many cigarettes in a very short period of time. I'd never heard of this but I now know I sure as hell had it once in high school. That episode cured me of smoking. That was the second most horrible feeling I've ever had next to full-blown food poisoning and if you've ever had that, you know it can feel like your gonna die and you just want to die and get it over with.
post #35 of 39
Grey Goose is my favorite, but I'll go with Svedka if I'm looking to save money. Svedka is surprisingly smooth for a relatively cheap vodka. I drink most everything neat and Svedka goes down rather smooth.

-Sloan
post #36 of 39
Lately it has been Skyy, but I usually prefer Crown Royal, a good single malt scotch on the rocks, or the occasional rusty nail. Jager-bombs are yummy sometimes too.

They have yet to legalize adulthood in Utah, so there are a limited number of state stores (DABC = Dept. of Alcoholic Beverage Control) - Sounds like something out of Orwell's 1984...

Grocery store beer is limited to 3.2% ABV. This is one of the reasons I got into craft brewing. You can only get wine at the state store, not the grocer.

Boutique spirits are virtually non-existent here. And liquor store beers are sold INDIVIDUALLY - anywhere from $1.50 - $2.50 EACH... My favorite readily available beer is Kralovsky LEV Black Lion. It's a dark Czechoslovakian beer - and one of our best bargains at ONLY $1.75 for a 25oz bottle.

Paul
post #37 of 39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scentsibility

Lately it has been Skyy, but I usually prefer Crown Royal, a good single malt scotch on the rocks, or the occasional rusty nail. Jager-bombs are yummy sometimes too.

They have yet to legalize adulthood in Utah, so there are a limited number of state stores (DABC = Dept. of Alcoholic Beverage Control) - Sounds like something out of Orwell's 1984...

Grocery store beer is limited to 3.2% ABV. This is one of the reasons I got into craft brewing. You can only get wine at the state store, not the grocer.

Boutique spirits are virtually non-existent here. And liquor store beers are sold INDIVIDUALLY - anywhere from $1.50 - $2.50 EACH... My favorite readily available beer is Kralovsky LEV Black Lion. It's a dark Czechoslovakian beer - and one of our best bargains at ONLY $1.75 for a 25oz bottle.

Paul

I hear you man. My state is exactly the same.

It kills me to read about peoples' recommendations for great booze and not being able to buy it.

Like I said in my original post, it's like only being able to shop for scent at Macy's.

Perhaps we should start decanting booze for each other!
post #38 of 39
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rebelwithoutaclue

I hear you man. My state is exactly the same.

It kills me to read about peoples' recommendations for great booze and not being able to buy it.

Like I said in my original post, it's like only being able to shop for scent at Macy's.

Perhaps we should start decanting booze for each other!

Heh, yeah one of these days I'm planning to hit ifconfig up for some Idaho lottery tickets and a couple cases of Spaten Optimator! (Are you listening Fred?)

P
post #39 of 39
Grey Goose is excellent but way overpriced, especially here. There is a vodka here in Canada called Iceberg, which is excellent, and about half the cost of GG. I also like Ketel One.
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