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Roses
Anything Roses - Everything coming up Roses

Sniffapalooza's new web magazine - Rose page
http://www.sniffapaloozamagazine.com/ROSE.html


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The Peace rose is the most famous and successful garden rose of all time. Over one hundred million plants have been sold. It is a Hybrid Tea rose with very large flowers and a light yellow to cream color. It is very hardy and resistant to disease making it popular in gardens as well as in the floral trade.

It was developed by French horticulturist Francis Meilland in the years 1935 to 1939.
Peace
post #2 of 37
I'm really jealous of all you guys with gardening space. I live in the dorms, so it's impossible for me to do anything outside. I'm getting a house this summer, but I don't know how long I'll be staying in it, so I'm trying to decide if buying a $30 rose bush will be worth it if I won't really get to see it bloom. Anybody here have any luck growing rose bushes in pots then moving them outdoors when it's warm enough?
- Rich
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Originally Posted by _R$_

I'm really jealous of all you guys with gardening space. I live in the dorms, so it's impossible for me to do anything outside. I'm getting a house this summer, but I don't know how long I'll be staying in it, so I'm trying to decide if buying a $30 rose bush will be worth it if I won't really get to see it bloom. Anybody here have any luck growing rose bushes in pots then moving them outdoors when it's warm enough?
- Rich

The only rose that would grow indoors under lights sucssefuly would be miniature roses. They transplant out doors and need to be looked after and trimmed just like their full sized brethren. There are folks who bother with no other roses. One of the premier breeder/growers is right outside Boston. There is as large a selection in minis as there is in full sized plants. Most of them need a lot of daylight or plant lights.

this is who I refered to and bought from when I had a house and room to grow plants could spend hours each week caring for them.

http://www.noreast-miniroses.com/
post #4 of 37
Thanks for that link, very helpful!
- Rich
post #5 of 37
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Originally Posted by _R$_

Thanks for that link, very helpful!
- Rich

no problem. another flowering plant that's pretty easy to grow under full spectrum grow lights are african violets. you can set a timer for the lights to be on 16hrs and let them know when daylight is so you can enjoy them at night.


Try the spring plant and garden show on the west side pier in Manhattan (April?). It is one of the worlds best. Chinese and Japanese make it a pilgramage. The Orchid show is a trip too.
post #6 of 37
Manhattan, KS. I'm pretty sure the little apple doesn't have a world known flower show.
- Rich
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Sunstruck







Quiet Time
post #8 of 37
odinthor is a rose maven and I know he knows of rose discussion groups...
post #9 of 37
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thanks Mark

I grew an awful lot of roses at the house in the 70's and 80's. Rose shows always delighted me I just couldnt connect with the people. too much ego, too much baggage or maybe it was me. My favorite was a tea rose that only grew knee high and then it would send out suckers. A gorgeous red with a cream coloring inside and out called Double Delight.

post #10 of 37
wow very nice pictures!
I personally love white roses, if they're intensely scented, all the better.

just a bit unrelated to roses (i think): is there a flower that has more than 2 or 3 colors? i'd like to see one that has 7 or 8 colors!
post #11 of 37
I have about thirty large rose bushes, was out trimming some this morning. Lot more to go, but they are not blooming yet, not time. A few have several different colors on one bush, interesting. I keep forgetting the fertilizer.
post #12 of 37
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wow very nice pictures!
I personally love white roses, if they're intensely scented, all the better.

just a bit unrelated to roses (i think): is there a flower that has more than 2 or 3 colors? i'd like to see one that has 7 or 8 colors!

I really can't think of a single flower that has a rainbow of colors. But! I'm sure they're working on it.
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Originally Posted by TDDanae

I have about thirty large rose bushes, was out trimming some this morning. Lot more to go, but they are not blooming yet, not time. A few have several different colors on one bush, interesting. I keep forgetting the fertilizer.

Yes! I had about thirty bushes at the house. I grew a gradiflora with red petals that were white on the inside, with no overlap red or white in the flower, no pink. It was planted in front of the house and grew to about 9 feet tall. I had pink grandifloras in the back that got to six feet.
Neighbors used to come over and ask about the 9 footer and I told them it was a freak.
This story I believe is true. there was a miracle ferilizer sold that instructed you to add a tablespoon to a gallon of water per rose. Folks were joyous at the improvement in their bushes. Turns out the fertilizer was water, the gallon of water a day was keeping them healthy. Roses like direct sunlight, except for some of the whites, and they drink a whole lot of water.

from Kew Gardens in London:



and a Swiss stamp



the rose on the stamp is called Papa Meilland
post #13 of 37
For those of you on East side of the nation, what do you do about Japanese Beetles? I just about gave up on roses - almost blinded myself with Sevin one day, and the little buggers just eat the blooms down to nothing without the major poison.
post #14 of 37
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we used Beetle bags

http://www.saferbrand.com/landscape/japanesebeetle.htm

I had two on my property. 30 plants were spared the nonsense of seeing a bud opening in the morning and find when you came home at supper time the whole thing had been eaten.

They work very well. The beetles think it's either "george clooney' or 'scarlett johannson' beetle waiting for just them and pow!

They work and they're simple and little kids love watching beetles die in the bottom of the bag.
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a rose thread needs roses to stay alive.

post #15 of 37
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another pink rose and time to prune up here in NJ
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another pink rose and time to prune up here in NJ

That's beautiful. It's delicate. Strong. Alive.

I don't have a green thumb but once planted about five or six types of flowers as a scientific experiment. Conclusion: marigolds are INDESTRUCTIBLE! I could relieve myself into the pot after a night of hard drinking and they'd only grow taller.
post #17 of 37
Any suggestions for fungicides for this humid climate? Something not too hazardous to the gardener's health?
post #18 of 37
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I found the best growing tips from the rose sellers I went to. Not Sears or Home depot but the Mom & Pop places. If I remember clearly mulching with sphagnum moss kept a lot of fungal diseases at bay because there was less splash when watering. Blck spot affets certain breeds and I removed leaves as soon as I saw them.
Also if there's a city or county rose garden nearby it helps to get to know the person responsible for their care.
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For anybody that lives in KC, there's a mom and pop place on about 82nd and Metcalf. It seems that they bought their house before it was a big business area, so they just converted their home into their place of business. It's quite cute actually, a quaint little home next to a gas station and a car dealership, with a grease monkey car shop across the street. I haven't been there in a while, but if I remember correctly, they've got about 50 rose plants, and assorted breeds of other flowers, and the usual fertilizers.
- Rich
post #20 of 37
We do have quite a deer problem in our area, and I have found a solution that works as well as anything and better than most (expensive bitter sprays, stinky coyote pee, etc.): Garlic powder. Cheap and effective. Of course, it tends to cover up the fragrance, but so do the other remedies. Works on tulips and other deer delights, as well.
post #21 of 37
Curiosity question:

Do any of you northern-type rose growers winterize your bushes by digging a trench from the entry point of the plant into the soil outward the distance equal to the bush height and lay the plant over, into a straw-lined trench and cover with straw/leaves/soil until next spring, when you simply uncover and upright the plant? I saw that done on a gardening TV program years ago and wondered if it really worked.
post #22 of 37
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Curiosity question:

Do any of you northern-type rose growers winterize your bushes by digging a trench from the entry point of the plant into the soil outward the distance equal to the bush height and lay the plant over, into a straw-lined trench and cover with straw/leaves/soil until next spring, when you simply uncover and upright the plant? I saw that done on a gardening TV program years ago and wondered if it really worked.

I saw illustrations of this technique in books from the library. It's an old technique and seems like it should work. It would protect the canes from deep freezes and irreversable damage.

there is a breed that will stand up to Canadian winters but the selection is based on color, not style.
post #23 of 37
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my grandiflora outside the apartment, I think it was planted 6 years ago, is taller than me now (6'6") Tropicana is her name, is blooming her fool head off in between torrential rains.

some Irish Roses below

http://digitalflowerpictures.blogspo...ish-roses.html


post #24 of 37
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a Peace Rose for anyone who needs one, desires one or would like to meditate with one




a beautiful place to visit before you plant your first rose, and yes they do like a fall planting in the north and will bloom their silly heads off late spring.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose
post #25 of 37
This bouquet was from my previous residence's garden
post #26 of 37
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those are gorgeous Sudsy. Is that Peace and Chicago Peace?
post #27 of 37
Sorry F. I have absolutely no idea!
We didn't plant the bushes & had no way to know what they were.
I suppose a rose expert would know but I certainly am not that.
Whatever you think I'll agree with!!

The place we live in now has some very old rose bushes in the front garden, that I hope will bloom like they did last year.
I'll take pictures when they do.
Also because we live in a heritage area, they want to use our roses in a display next month.
Hopefully then I will learn the name of these bushes.
post #28 of 37
Next year, I'll have to take some pictures of my Grandpa Chuck + Alberta's rose bush. They planted it nearly 20 years ago, and the base trunk is about 2.5" thick, with the tops of the branches blooming OVER their house. It's fabulous, and despite the late frost we got this year, it bloomed harder than ever. I think it's a tea rose hybrid, because it has small blooms, but it isn't very fragrant. Bright red in color.
- Rich
post #29 of 37
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a well cared for grandiflora will get that big and have a trunk sticking out of the ground. I have one called "Tropicana" an orange red outside the window which is at least 7 feet tall after planting it 3 years ago.
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at least 7 feet tall after planting it 3 years ago.


- Rich
post #31 of 37
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Pierre-Joseph Redouté (1759-1840) is widely regarded as the greatest ever floral artist and the reputation is due, in no small part, to the exceptional quality of his prints.

many more rose illustrations on.

BibliOdyssey

http://bibliodyssey.blogspot.com/
post #32 of 37
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I have a Tropicana rose bush with one beautiful rose giving winter the finger on October 26th in NJ.

the pic above is for color only
post #33 of 37
My last roses are still attempting to bloom though we've had a freeze here. Would like to share a poem I wrote about 10 years back:


Last Roses

I wander through my garden
scuffing orange oak leaves
and crumbling vines
finding seed pods opened wide
which having performed
their service
burst their hearts and died

With fingers coldly grasping pruners
I'm searching for that one last rose
as scents of autumn fill my nostrils
and nothing in my garden grows
Searching for that one reminder
of honeyed summer breezes
replaced by smoky autumn pyres
and coming winters frost-laced freezes

Already the trees are barren
and canes are bowing
to winter winds to come
I look, I bend, I stalk
a hunter...
hoping I can find just one

just one last rose
her head held high
stretched to catch
the waning sun
her petals bunched
but still defiant
undaunted by the snows to come

and lo...
she stands
off in the corner
shielded by the garden wall
that one last rose
a sentinel
a thorny princess
standing tall

I cannot reach her
tho' I try
she nods smugly
with rosy attitude
the pruners fall
from my hand
I cannot breech her
solitude

I turn away roseless
leaving her to die
a natural death
and a faint whiff
of her perfume on the air
haunts me
"no scentless hothouse blossom
am I"
she taunts me

I walk away slowly
one last glimpse
bejewels the dusk
I stop
I turn
and then salute her
savoring the hint of musk

She nods again
and whispers
and my heart begins to sing
for she stated
oh so simply
"I will see you...
come next spring"

copyright 1996 Denise Oliver-Velez
post #34 of 37
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another rose lover.

greetings

I cut my last rose on Oct 31 and enjoyed it till the petals fell. Then I enjoyed the petals.

rose lovers are like that.
post #35 of 37
Just welcomed three rose bushes into my garden, Angel Face, Mardi Gras and the Double Knockout.

Looking for a fourth, perhaps a creamy or soft pink. The Peace rose sure looks purty.

Will post some photos in a bit.

Peace,
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Here's a photo of the Angel Face Rose
post #36 of 37
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nice pic Tamara, Keep em coming.
post #37 of 37
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nice photography especially this rose

http://www.flickr.com/photos/krikou/2479435292/
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