So many of y'all make this sound like a dirty, dirty frag that now I really wanna either swap for a bottle or buy at least a decant. (I'm not sure I want to buy a full bottle yet.) Cumin notes don't bother me, but I want to know if this is a marketed-to-women scent that a guy can "pull off" or not. I like strong, animalic scents, and need a "dirty boy" or two to go alongside my Musc Ravageur and Monsieur Musk. So, what can you tell me about Kingdom? Be as frank as you want to be.
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It's a little dirty, very sensual, but not animalic. It's edgier, dirtier, less of a comfort fragrance than Musc Ravageur which is basically just an spicy oriental with a little musk.
Kingdom's notes:
Bergamot, Mandarin, Neroli, Cumin essence, Rose, Jasmine, Ginger, Sandalwood, Copahu wood, Bourbon Vanilla, Myrrh, Musk.
Musc Ravageur isn't resolutely masculine by any means so I think you're ok with Kingdom. The EDP is much better. I don't find many orientals all that wearable and this one's no different.
If you want animalic, go for Muscs Koublaï Khän, or try something like Kama or Kama Extreme by Ava Luxe.
Civet, castoreum, ambergris and musk are the classic animalic notes, but costus and ambrette seed are also considered animal. Costus has a distinctly animal undertone. The odor has been compared to that of human hair, fur coats, and "wet dogs". It's extremely tenacious and used sparingly. Ambrette seed is smooth, rich, slightly sweet and musky all at once. It is also incredibly tenacious. A little goes a log way, and for the perfumer, it must be smelled imaginatively and dosed carefully. Muscs Koublaï Khän contains all of these ingredients.
Musc Koublaï Khän's notes:
Civet
Castoreum
Costus Roots
Cistus Labdanum
Ambergris
Musks
Ambrette seeds
Patchouli
Moroccan Rose
Vanilla
Kama's notes:
Blend of musks
Ambergris
Civet
Black Amber
Labdanum
Bulgarian Rose absolute
I haven't worn it much (I prefer it on my girlfriend), but I perceive Ava Luxe Rasa Extreme as being more animalic than both of these. It comes in edp and pure perfume concentrations. I've only worn/smelled sillage from the edp so I imagine the pure perfume is outrageous. The edp lasts a solid twelve hours plus and it's animalic bliss. The paragon of animal as far as I'm concerned.
Rasa Extreme's notes:
Indian Musk
Kenya Musk
Skin Musk
Egyptian Musk
Peruvian Balsam
Ambergris
Civet
Orris Root
Russian Rose
Kingdom's notes:
Bergamot, Mandarin, Neroli, Cumin essence, Rose, Jasmine, Ginger, Sandalwood, Copahu wood, Bourbon Vanilla, Myrrh, Musk.
Musc Ravageur isn't resolutely masculine by any means so I think you're ok with Kingdom. The EDP is much better. I don't find many orientals all that wearable and this one's no different.
If you want animalic, go for Muscs Koublaï Khän, or try something like Kama or Kama Extreme by Ava Luxe.
Civet, castoreum, ambergris and musk are the classic animalic notes, but costus and ambrette seed are also considered animal. Costus has a distinctly animal undertone. The odor has been compared to that of human hair, fur coats, and "wet dogs". It's extremely tenacious and used sparingly. Ambrette seed is smooth, rich, slightly sweet and musky all at once. It is also incredibly tenacious. A little goes a log way, and for the perfumer, it must be smelled imaginatively and dosed carefully. Muscs Koublaï Khän contains all of these ingredients.
Musc Koublaï Khän's notes:
Civet
Castoreum
Costus Roots
Cistus Labdanum
Ambergris
Musks
Ambrette seeds
Patchouli
Moroccan Rose
Vanilla
Kama's notes:
Blend of musks
Ambergris
Civet
Black Amber
Labdanum
Bulgarian Rose absolute
I haven't worn it much (I prefer it on my girlfriend), but I perceive Ava Luxe Rasa Extreme as being more animalic than both of these. It comes in edp and pure perfume concentrations. I've only worn/smelled sillage from the edp so I imagine the pure perfume is outrageous. The edp lasts a solid twelve hours plus and it's animalic bliss. The paragon of animal as far as I'm concerned.
Rasa Extreme's notes:
Indian Musk
Kenya Musk
Skin Musk
Egyptian Musk
Peruvian Balsam
Ambergris
Civet
Orris Root
Russian Rose
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As Pluran already mentioned, it is a dirty but not animalic fragrance.And I think skin chemistry really matters with this one.
I have a bottle of the EDP,wear it just one spritz on the back of my hand from time to time at home but once, I tried a full wearing and I definitely felt the fragrance was wearing me instead.It is a really strong fragrance.
On the other hand I appreciate it on my wife.Just one helluva SEXY fragrance on her.
I have a bottle of the EDP,wear it just one spritz on the back of my hand from time to time at home but once, I tried a full wearing and I definitely felt the fragrance was wearing me instead.It is a really strong fragrance.
On the other hand I appreciate it on my wife.Just one helluva SEXY fragrance on her.
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I agree with all of the above comments.
I appreciate a well done cumin note (Rose Poivree for instance) but the Kingdom cumin note smells very...fleshy.
Kingdom is really the one of the few fragrances that I cannot wear around my boyfriend, since he hates it on me. I'm not saying this to scare you (hey, he also doesn't appreciate Garage by CdG or Cumming on me either), but just as a heads up. I rarely wear my decant, but when I do it's more of a 'novelty' scent for me. I think I told another Basenoter its the perfect scent to wear to a fetish party.
tvlampboy, you can totally 'pull this off' - however, you might end up not liking it. My advice: try before you buy.
I appreciate a well done cumin note (Rose Poivree for instance) but the Kingdom cumin note smells very...fleshy.
Kingdom is really the one of the few fragrances that I cannot wear around my boyfriend, since he hates it on me. I'm not saying this to scare you (hey, he also doesn't appreciate Garage by CdG or Cumming on me either), but just as a heads up. I rarely wear my decant, but when I do it's more of a 'novelty' scent for me. I think I told another Basenoter its the perfect scent to wear to a fetish party.

tvlampboy, you can totally 'pull this off' - however, you might end up not liking it. My advice: try before you buy.
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Kingdom is one of my favorite fall/winter fragrances and if you combine it with the Body Lotion, the fragrance can last on your body for days. It is dirty but it is extremely sexy and fairly Masculine, it actually smells as if you have just had dirty sex and didn't take a shower, something that men or women can relate to!
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