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Versace's The Dreamer and Guerlain's Vetiver

post #1 of 10
11/17/07 at 4:05am
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I gave in today and picked up The Dreamer — for a long time I resisted as I didn't think it would last. I like it a lot, and it lasts!, but I am really struck by the fact that the tobacco accord is exactly the same as that in Guerlain's Vetiver. Why have you guys not mentioned this? Or have you, and I haven't been paying attention? Thrax likens it to a kind of chewing gum kind of tobacco note and doesn't like it, as I recall. Personally I do like it. If I had to charcterise The Dreamer I'd say it was Guerlain's Vetiver without the Vetiver. I assume that whatever makes that tobacco note is a synthetic of some kind. (When you get close to it it stops smelling like tobacco!)

I put on Havana for comparison. To me this seems like an entirely different tobacco note, drier, with no chewing gum overtones, and something vaguely green underneath: maybe there is a hint of labdanum in there.

Anyway, what do you think of these two?

Edit: my second, second thoughts: the tobacco note in The Dreamer and GV is rather musky the more you get into the drydown.
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post #2 of 10
11/17/07 at 6:02am
IT doesnt lasttttttttt >< =)
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post #3 of 10
11/17/07 at 7:40am
Ahhh...the rough moody tiger again! How r u?
Dreamer has a beautiful combination of kind of oriental-fougere-floral and there is tobacco note, which is outstanding. I cant see any kind of CHEWING GUM note in it!
Perhaps chewing gums have different flavours in our countries! Here they use flavours like mint, strawberry etc.
I think Havana is more Aromatic and has a more serious style. But Dreamer is a crefree and romantic style scent.
Also...I'm going to try that Vetiver again!!!
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post #4 of 10
11/17/07 at 12:22pm
I'm gonna have to dig up my GV sample again too. I didn't detect a tobacco note before.

I also recently bought The Dreamer (new) after sampling it and reading the many praising reviews of it's sillage and longevity. But I find it last only about 3 hours max on my skin. Normally, I fall within the general consensus regarding the sillage and longevity of most frags, but this one just makes me go "Hey! No fair......why doesn't mine last like everyone else's?!"
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post #5 of 10
11/17/07 at 6:31pm
Hmm...I'll have to compare GV straight up with The Dreamer. I have both, but have not considered them close in character before. In addition to vetiver, Guerlain Vetiver also has a tenacious, longlasting citrus topnote that just doesn't quit. Both of these scents last me every minute of 6-8 hours for sillage,and 4-5 hours more as a skin scent.
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post #6 of 10
11/17/07 at 9:09pm
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Originally Posted by wicozani View Post

In addition to vetiver, Guerlain Vetiver also has a tenacious, longlasting citrus topnote that just doesn't quit.

This is what put me off. I really liked the eau glacee version though. The citrus is toned way down and it has a mint top note, but the longevity is terrible unfortunately - only 2-3 hours max on me.
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post #7 of 10
11/18/07 at 3:56am
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Originally Posted by Eluard View Post

The Dreamer I'd say it was Guerlain's Vetiver without the Vetiver.

Dreamer is far richer than Gurelain's Vetiver. To my mind, it's not a question of subtracting from GV, but adding to it - and adding quite a lot to get Dreamer.

Curiously, OsMoz doesn't list any tobacco note in GV, while the Basenotes Directory does.

This post prompted me to do a side by side comparison between them. I think I can kind of smell something sharp like tobacco in GV, but I'm not a 100% sure that it really is tobacco.
Renato
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post #8 of 10
11/18/07 at 6:38am
Very interesting.

I wore Dreamer about 6-7 years ago and never ever quite warmed to it - this was before Basenotes so I wasn't sure why, but now I think it was the mish-mash of notes in Dreamer confused my nose a little too much. However I can (now that you've pointed it out) see the difference between the vanilla notes in this and Guerlain Vetiver. Not too sweet, not 'maple syrupy', and tenacious.

And I do agree with that tobacco note that you smell, but that when you smell your skin close - it disappears. Neat, huh?
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post #9 of 10
11/18/07 at 10:03pm
i actually dont detect much tobacco in vetiver at all and i cant link vetiver with dreamer at all really.

thought, dreamer is fan-freakin-tastic. pipe tobacco without the nicotine.
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post #10 of 10
11/18/07 at 10:14pm
I like The Dreamer, it reminds me of being in South Beach. I can't wear it though, it's way too loud. However, the tobacco note is one of my favorites. I wonder what it's made out of, too. Does anyone out there know?
Guerlain's Vetiver is much more classical. Of course the original version was much better, but it's still a wonderful fragrance.
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