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Body chemistry's affect on perfume a myth?

post #1 of 11
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Not sure if this has been posted yet or not...I agree with a lot of what they're saying.

http://www.timeout.com/newyork/artic...rticleAfterMpu

Smelling points

Picking a signature scent isnt a task to sniff at: To avoid getting stuck with a stink bomb, take these perfumers advice on how to come away from the fragrance counter smelling like a rose.

More than 300 perfumes are released each month, says scents wizard Pierre-Constantin Guéros. How does he know? I try to smell each one. As one of a trio of Tribeca-based noses for Drom, a multinational to-the-trade fragrance house, Guéros and fellow French natives Valérie Garnuch-Mentzel and Delphine Jelk keep tabs on their competition. Trained by elite fragrance academy IPSICA in Versailles (each graduating class has only 12 to 20 people), the Drom team tinker with more than 100-plus raw materials to make a big-budget eau de toilette. Below, they offer some tips on selectingand caring foryour next perfume.

Dont be seduced by sexy bottles Though you might think youre unaffected by labels, who wouldnt pick a flacon of Prada over Paris Hilton? But according to Garnuch-Mentzel and Guéroswho don both upscale and mass-market scents alike (Garnuch-Mentzel wears Ambre Sultan by Serge Lutens, while Guéros switches between Chanel Pour Monsieur and Abercrombie & Fitch, none of which are their own creations)you should look beyond pretty packaging and follow your nose. Even though a cologne might hail from a posh brand, a sky-high price tag doesnt guarantee that more money is spent on the formula. Youd be surprised to know that a lot of drugstore perfume companies spend more on the juice, says Guéros. If youre truly embarrassed by a vial of Beckham perching on your dresser, you can decant its liquid into a more appealing container such as a crystal flask from replacements.com.

Know where to go Pick a place to shop depending on your mood and level of desired assistance. If you want to be left alone to ponder woodsy top notes, hit grab-it-and-go chains like Sephora, which offer dozens of brands categorized by type of scent for DIY testing. If you want a bit more help, dont be intimidated by department stores massive beauty floors. The people who work at perfume counters are usually trained by the company and will know a particular fragrance house very well, says Garnuch-Mentzel. Niche boutiques like luxe Aedes de Venustas (9 Christopher St between Sixth Ave and Waverly Pl, 212-206-8674) also provide a more intimate milieu for whiffing.

Know what you like As G.I. Joe said, Knowing is half the battle. And to prevail at a shop like Barneys, come armed with your smelling preferences or the name of at least one favorite fragrance. For instance, if youre a fan of heavy florals and amber, the duo suggests Prada, Diesels Fuel for Life, Euphoria by Calvin Klein, Paco Rabannes Black XS and Estée Lauders Private Collection Tuberose Gardenia (Drom didnt make any of these).

Your musk dont matterPheromones may unconsciously attract your next date, but they dont affect how Axe body spray smells when you fog it on your chest. Unless you eat very spicy food all the time, your body chemistry wont change a fragrance, explains Guéros. Thats a bit of a mythyoud have to have a trained nose to be able to distinguish how a scent smells differently on two people.

Keep it coolBecause theyre more chemically volatile, citrus scents dont last as long as muskier options. A perfume should stay good for a few years, but you can extend its life by storing your bottles in the fridge. A bathroom is really the worst place for fragrance to live, Jelk explains. It thrives in cool, dark spots, away from sunlight and humidity.


Wait for itTheres nothing worse than a migraine induced by a heady mix of J. Los Glow and Versaces Bright Crystal. (And, oh yeah, according to Guéros, you can also skip the jars of coffee beans since they dont clear your nosethey just fill it with another smell.) To prevent olfactory meltdown, the pair suggests trying a handful of options via testers before winnowing it down to three or four and spritzing a small amount of each on different parts of your arm. Then leave. Top notesusually citrus, spices or fruitare what you smell initially, but arent a good way to judge a perfumes character. You need to get the heart of the perfume, says Guéros. There are raw materialsjasmine, rose and gardenia for women, and aromatic herbs such as lavender and sage for menthat come later because they are heavier. If you want to know if a perfume will be the right one for you, wear it for a whole day before you buy it.

Dont air it outYou wont crush precious scent molecules by rubbing in a scent, nor will you empower a fragrance by applying it to your pulse points. Its a waste to walk into a cloud of perfume, Jelk laughs. You should just spray it onif you really want it to last, spray it on your hair, even though the alcohol is drying.
post #2 of 11
Very nice article!

I love how he laughs with the people who walk through a cloud of perfume.
post #3 of 11
It's definitely not a myth, and I don't have a trained nose. My Wife and I try alot of samples together. Some smell identical and others smell like entirely different frags.
post #4 of 11
I don't see why it would be a myth. It's well documented that different people's sweat will have different ph levels, and I'm sure varying levels of acidity does in fact alter, damage, or modify some chemicals used in perfumery.
post #5 of 11
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My personal belief (we're all allowed to have one...don't throw rocks) is that the perfume only smells different on someone else if they themselves smell very different to begin with....so much so that the perfume blends with their smell instead of masking it.

If someone eats a different diet than I do, they'll more than likely have a different smell than I do (along with sex, culturual background, etc.) Any given perfume will smell different on them due to the combination of the perfume and their own scent/body odour....I don't think its a complicated "chemistry" issue, but general combining of two smells.
post #6 of 11
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Originally Posted by sofresh View Post

My personal belief (we're all allowed to have one...don't throw rocks) is that the perfume only smells different on someone else if they themselves smell very different to begin with....so much so that the perfume blends with their smell instead of masking it.

If someone eats a different diet than I do, they'll more than likely have a different smell than I do (along with sex, culturual background, etc.) Any given perfume will smell different on them due to the combination of the perfume and their own scent/body odour....I don't think its a complicated "chemistry" issue, but general combining of two smells.

If that isn;t skin chemistry, what is?
post #7 of 11
I think most people who do the cloud thing are trying to avoid over application with some scents. Not to make the perfume smell better.
post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by Prince Barry View Post

If that isn;t skin chemistry, what is?

You're right...my description didn't prove my point so well. What I was trying to say, was that a person's natural chemistry won't affect a perfume's scent...only their lifestyle's influence.

I have such a hard time explaining things sometimes...oh well.
post #9 of 11
I eat tons of onions and garlic cloves each year, not to mention pounds of cumin and a dozen or so other pungent spices (e.g., saffron, ginger etc.). Couple these things with daily, "clean" sweat/androgens (that all men produce) and, well, why SHOULDN'T we reasonably assume that these things can/do affect fragrances?

I agree with many of the points this fellow had to make, yes, but not this one.
post #10 of 11
I think a good number of us on this forum have that so called "trained nose" do we not?;p

I have this theory on body chemistry, althought I can't firmly stand behind it. I think body chemistry comes from what you bath with, your shampoo, shower gel, soap and such. If you use a moisturizer, whether it's scented or not, further complicates the issue.

Many perfumes features an amplifying fixative, most commonly musk. Once applied to skin, it revives the scent that "was there" along with the other compositions of the perfume, which can make a perfume smell radically different on people. It is not common or convenient to avoid all scented products, and thus we all have a "body chemistry" that is closely tied to our daily routines.
post #11 of 11
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Originally Posted by kanaires View Post

I think a good number of us on this forum have that so called "trained nose" do we not?;p

I have this theory on body chemistry, althought I can't firmly stand behind it. I think body chemistry comes from what you bath with, your shampoo, shower gel, soap and such. If you use a moisturizer, whether it's scented or not, further complicates the issue.

Many perfumes features an amplifying fixative, most commonly musk. Once applied to skin, it revives the scent that "was there" along with the other compositions of the perfume, which can make a perfume smell radically different on people. It is not common or convenient to avoid all scented products, and thus we all have a "body chemistry" that is closely tied to our daily routines.

That's a fair theory!

Here's a link to mimifroufrou.com's (also where I found the article above btw)interview with a chemist regarding the theory of "bruising" or crushing molecules when rubbing your wrists together.
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