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post #1 of 36
2/10/08 at 3:33pm
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Is there a scent alike or with similar notes to CPM but a bit stronger?
Ive owned CPM for years now, i love it but doesnt last very long...

Ive tried CD Eau Savauge just dont like the dry down
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post #2 of 36
2/10/08 at 4:06pm
Hi djbozz,

Welcome to Basenotes!

Chanel Pour Monsieur is one of my favorites.

Fortunately, I get excellent longevity from CPM but I know that others here have expressed the same concern as you.

This link does not directly address your question but, in discussing the chypre family, it elicited many recommendations of favorite chypres:

http://community.basenotes.net/showt...nsieur+similar
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post #3 of 36
2/10/08 at 4:10pm
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Many people here disagree with me, but I love Chanel PM Concentree. And it is the obvious answer to your question!

For one thing, I can absolutely guarantee better longevity than the original PM. In fact, on me, it goes for over 12 hours.

It is certainly a BIT different from PM, but the similarities are greater than the differences. It's creamier, richer, with more vanilla and sweet spices, and a little less citrus.
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post #4 of 36
2/10/08 at 4:12pm
If your not adverse to Nutmeg, try the concentrated version,
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post #5 of 36
2/10/08 at 5:48pm
I have a mini of PM and tried it on a few times. It's a very nice frag but sadly lacks longevity on me and that's what've kept me from pulling the trigger for a bottle.
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post #6 of 36
2/10/08 at 6:35pm
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Have you had others sniff and see if it is just fragrance fatigue on your part? Possibility.
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post #7 of 36
2/10/08 at 6:52pm
I think you've received two great pieces of advice...make sure and see if others can smell it and if they can't, get your hands on the concentrate.
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post #8 of 36
2/10/08 at 8:07pm
Most days it doesn't last long on me. However, one day it did last quite a while (most of the day),
although it remained close to the skin. That day I had applied very liberally: 10 sprays or so
to the chest and neck.

Don't be afraid to spray freely with this one. It will become subdued before you leave the house.
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post #9 of 36
2/10/08 at 11:04pm
Despite the holy water-parting like miracle and perfumery paradigm shift that Roudniskta accomplished by integrating hedione in Eau Sauvage, I always found it to be less compelling and substantial than Pour Monsieur. The tingly neroli-citrus opening cocooned by the warm rejuvenating spices floating on a base of high quality oakmoss was a combination much more pleasing to my nose than Eau Sauvage's muted citrus-dry and sweet jasmin-dirty water vetiver performance (although I do applaud it at times). Pour Monsieur is a citrus aromatic and isn't supposed to last 72-hours like most chemical lab creations of today - it loses sillage fast but does manage to last a good 7 hours on my skin. Its EDT concentration and I believe and EDP version might be what you are looking for.

Just enjoy it for what it is - a world class subtle elegant fragrance.
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post #10 of 36
2/10/08 at 11:43pm
How alike is PM to PMC?

Well, I found Ungaro II quite similar to PMC, although I liked Ungaro II better, myself.
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post #11 of 36
2/11/08 at 12:22am
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Many people here disagree with me, but I love Chanel PM Concentree. And it is the obvious answer to your question!

For one thing, I can absolutely guarantee better longevity than the original PM. In fact, on me, it goes for over 12 hours.

It is certainly a BIT different from PM, but the similarities are greater than the differences. It's creamier, richer, with more vanilla and sweet spices, and a little less citrus.

Totally agreed! PMC is the one to get to have the same vibe of PM but with a heavier sillage and a longer lasting power. It has more coriander and it's maybe a bit more powdery but it's absolutely gorgeous if you like the oakmoss in pm.
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post #12 of 36
2/11/08 at 12:25am
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Have you had others sniff and see if it is just fragrance fatigue on your part? Possibility.

Maybe you're right. I'll try it again, though. Thnx
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post #13 of 36
2/11/08 at 3:43am
This is one of my absolute faves, and I was highly impressed with its muted sophistication. It didn't scream out like so many fragrances do nowadays, and it is so beautifully balanced and blended that it just melts into my skin.

I have yet to try the concentree version, and would die if I could find it.
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post #14 of 36
2/11/08 at 5:11am
Try Tiffany for Men.
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post #15 of 36
2/11/08 at 8:03am
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This is one of my absolute faves, and I was highly impressed with its muted sophistication. It didn't scream out like so many fragrances do nowadays, and it is so beautifully balanced and blended that it just melts into my skin.

I have yet to try the concentree version, and would die if I could find it.

The concentree is widely available in Aussie department stores, I got mine from Myer, DJs have it too. The concentree label is quite subtle (it just looks like Pour Monsieur with a small "Concentree" written down the bottom, and could be missed if scanning the shelves) but it's in a wider, flatter bottle.

Just ask at the Chanel counter.

Ged
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post #16 of 36
2/11/08 at 8:12am
Can anyone compare the current formulation of CPM with the vintage one?
Does it still have the oakmoss?

Thanks
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post #17 of 36
2/11/08 at 8:30am
I have tried it - and it has an old fashioned elegance to it (in the best possible way). It is not meant to sill 10' in every direction - it is meant to be close and aromatic and make pleasant when someone enters into your close-in personal space. The best effect is when one catches a whif of something pleasant when close in. I have found it fades after several hours, but does not disappear enitrely.
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post #18 of 36
2/11/08 at 8:36am
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Can anyone compare the current formulation of CPM with the vintage one?
Does it still have the oakmoss?

Thanks

I have a vintage bottle of 'A Gentleman's Cologne' which was the UK name for Pour Monsieur prior to 1989.

A few days ago, Pour Monsieur was my SotD and I took the opportunity to test them side-by-side.

I think the sillage and longevity of the current version is excellent, but it pales in comparison with the vintage. They smell very similar, so - yes, imo - there still is a lot of oakmoss in the current formulation.

I am not knowledgeable enough to explain the difference in sillage and longevity but it is substantial and very noticeable.
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post #19 of 36
2/11/08 at 9:25am
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Originally Posted by zztopp View Post

Despite the holy water-parting like miracle and perfumery paradigm shift that Roudniskta accomplished by integrating hedione in Eau Sauvage, I always found it to be less compelling and substantial than Pour Monsieur. The tingly neroli-citrus opening cocooned by the warm rejuvenating spices floating on a base of high quality oakmoss was a combination much more pleasing to my nose than Eau Sauvage's muted citrus-dry and sweet jasmin-dirty water vetiver performance (although I do applaud it at times). Pour Monsieur is a citrus aromatic and isn't supposed to last 72-hours like most chemical lab creations of today - it loses sillage fast but does manage to last a good 7 hours on my skin. Its EDT concentration and I believe and EDP version might be what you are looking for.

Just enjoy it for what it is - a world class subtle elegant fragrance.

Whoa, Zz, you've surpassed yourself with this post. This has to by my favorite post since the beginning of the year. Parting of the waters, chemical lab creations, and a cocooned opening! Damn, man--now that's writtin! Bring me more!
--Chris
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post #20 of 36
2/11/08 at 9:32am
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I have a vintage bottle of 'A Gentleman's Cologne' which was the UK name for Pour Monsieur prior to 1989.

A few days ago, Pour Monsieur was my SotD and I took the opportunity to test them side-by-side.

I think the sillage and longevity of the current version is excellent, but it pales in comparison with the vintage. They smell very similar, so - yes, imo - there still is a lot of oakmoss in the current formulation.

I am not knowledgeable enough to explain the difference in sillage and longevity but it is substantial and very noticeable.

Thanks for that TwoRoads.
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Originally Posted by zztopp View Post

Despite the holy water-parting like miracle and perfumery paradigm shift that Roudniskta accomplished by integrating hedione in Eau Sauvage, I always found it to be less compelling and substantial than Pour Monsieur. The tingly neroli-citrus opening cocooned by the warm rejuvenating spices floating on a base of high quality oakmoss was a combination much more pleasing to my nose than Eau Sauvage's muted citrus-dry and sweet jasmin-dirty water vetiver performance (although I do applaud it at times). Pour Monsieur is a citrus aromatic and isn't supposed to last 72-hours like most chemical lab creations of today - it loses sillage fast but does manage to last a good 7 hours on my skin. Its EDT concentration and I believe and EDP version might be what you are looking for.

Just enjoy it for what it is - a world class subtle elegant fragrance.

Great post ZZ. Sorry to keep flogging the same horse but which formulation are you writing about here? Or do you feel the same way about both?

I agree the old formulation has unbelievable richness and depth in a non obtrusive way with a mossy drydown of incredible quality - I haven't smelled the new one.
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post #21 of 36
2/11/08 at 10:15am
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Great post ZZ. Sorry to keep flogging the same horse but which formulation are you writing about here? Or do you feel the same way about both?

I agree the old formulation has unbelievable richness and depth in a non obtrusive way with a mossy drydown of incredible quality - I haven't smelled the new one.

Thanks H_d and Chris - its the old formulation which comes in stocky bottles with light/dark brown juice .. if I recall these were/are still widely distributed in Europe.
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post #22 of 36
2/11/08 at 10:44am
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Thanks H_d and Chris - its the old formulation which comes in stocky bottles with light/dark brown juice .. if I recall these were/are still widely distributed in Europe.

Hmm, I only see tall thin ones with yellowish/green juice here .
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post #23 of 36
2/11/08 at 11:03am
This is an advertisement showing what my vintage bottle looks like:

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post #24 of 36
2/11/08 at 2:14pm
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This is an advertisement showing what my vintage bottle looks like:



Yes, thats the one. A color pic from Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-CHANEL-f...ayphotohosting
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post #25 of 36
2/11/08 at 2:43pm
My bottle of CPM looks the same shape wise, but it says "Chanel" at the top, "For Men" under that, and "Cologne" near the base. It's a 2oz, not an 8oz also. Fantastic stuff.
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post #26 of 36
2/11/08 at 3:05pm
I'll say. I just sprayed some on at Nordstrom's. Good stuff. $52.00. I wound up buying Aramis 900 though.(Bloomingdales)
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post #27 of 36
2/11/08 at 3:20pm
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I'll say. I just sprayed some on at Nordstrom's. Good stuff. $52.00. I wound up buying Aramis 900 though.(Bloomingdales)

You didn't specify, but am I correct in assuming that you sampled the Concentree version?

Since I started paying attention, I have not seen Pour Monsieur (1955) in a retail store in the United States, but I see the Concentree everywhere.

[Btw, Aramis 900 is an excellent choice - it is also one of my favorite fragrances!]
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post #28 of 36
2/11/08 at 3:24pm
TwoRoads,

I can't remember which one it was. All I know was it smelled fantastic!!!!!!!!!
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post #29 of 36
2/11/08 at 3:25pm
You know, I think I've made a mistake here. I believe the one I've seen is the concentree and I like it! If that's the case, I wonder what the original smells like.
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post #30 of 36
2/11/08 at 3:55pm
I am home now and took a photo of Pour Monsieur (in the new bottle) and A Gentleman's Cologne (in the old bottle). I do not have Pour Monsieur Concentree to show the comparison - but the bottle is marked 'Concentree' in small letters.

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post #31 of 36
2/11/08 at 4:20pm
Pour Monsieur Concentree is definitely one of my favorite fragrances, and its longevity is a strong point.
Highly recommended.
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post #32 of 36
2/11/08 at 9:50pm
As already mentioned, Chanel Pour Monsieur Concentree is very similary to Tiffany for men.
Both were created by Chanel's own Jacques Polge. Tiffany has better longevity and is a bit "louder" than P.M.C. (That is to say, more sillage. For some, maybe that's not a desirable effect.)

-David
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post #33 of 36
2/12/08 at 4:21am
I bought the original because it was said to be the more authentic one.The difference wasn't earth shaking in my opinion. The concentrée seemed to be a little heavier then.
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post #34 of 36
4/6/08 at 8:51pm
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Is there any resemblance with CPM & Eau de Monsieur ?
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post #35 of 36
4/7/08 at 12:02am
I have a semi-vintage bottle that looks much like the one of the left side of TwoRoads photo. However my bottle has a paper label, apparently predating the use of painted/silk-screened bottles. The box is mostly grey with bone yellow edges and printing. There is even an insert brochure that has the whole Pour Monsieur grooming line up... but not a date to be found anywhere!

At any rate, the juice is fabulous. It's my go-to juice for dressy dinners, but I still feel like I could wear it anytime. Now if you pardon me, I need to go looking for a back-up bottle...

<I'll try to post a photo of my bottle and box later>
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post #36 of 36
4/7/08 at 1:17am
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The concentree is widely available in Aussie department stores, I got mine from Myer, DJs have it too. The concentree label is quite subtle (it just looks like Pour Monsieur with a small "Concentree" written down the bottom, and could be missed if scanning the shelves) but it's in a wider, flatter bottle.

Just ask at the Chanel counter.

Ged

Ged, where? Where????

I've asked a million times at DJ's and Myer in the Melbourne city stores and the SA's act like I'm speaking double-dutch! Where did you get yours?

I've got the normal PM and I haven't even seen the PMC anywhere. I would love to get my hands on that juice!
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