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post #1 of 44
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I've enjoyed UFC for quite some time now. I love watching the fight nights, PPV's, and also the Ultimate Fighter reality series that they have. I know that UFC has gotten much more popular recently, so I was just curious as to who watches it here.
post #2 of 44
I do. I don't know if you watch WEC at all but last night Uriah Faber got upset in a featherweight title match. Faber is a beast, I love the way he fights but he got caught pretty good by Brown and admitted he made a mistake and Brown capitalized on it. Now, that's class.

I did karate when I was younger and I'm looking to start some boxing or BJJ, which ever is more convenient and cheaper...so probably boxing.
post #3 of 44
Fankly, I'm waiting for a 70 year old 9th degree black belt Aikidoka to kick all their asses.

It might be a long wait . . .

Cheers,

Mario
post #4 of 44
Since UFC 1, the days when there were no gloves and head butting was just another weapon in ones arsenal.
One so aptly used by the likes of Royce Gracie in his day. Yep, the good old days, Tank Abbott, Mark Coleman, Ken Shamrock, Kimo..... Think Randy can take Brock? Good thing I didn't Bet on the Faber / Brown fight. I didn't think Brian Stann would loose either though.
post #5 of 44
I haven't seen Brock fight but I would like for Randy to win.
post #6 of 44
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Originally Posted by Jeff C. View Post

Since UFC 1, the days when there were no gloves and head butting was just another weapon in ones arsenal.
One so aptly used by the likes of Royce Gracie in his day. Yep, the good old days, Tank Abbott, Mark Coleman, Ken Shamrock, Kimo..... Think Randy can take Brock? Good thing I didn't Bet on the Faber / Brown fight. I didn't think Brian Stann would loose either though.


That's what I miss and why I don't watch anymore. They took a great sport and turned it into a game so that they could get it sanctioned and on TV.

They changed the rules putting in time limits and "stand ups" if the players are on the ground too long. Can't have those advertisers getting bored watching something they don't understand now can we? No more ground kicks to finish, no more elbow points on the mat...

bah, put em on a bare floor with a dirty soup spoon in the middle that is legal to use in any fashion by the first man to it. Last man standing wins.

That's opened the doors for the takedown artists to win by "points". I miss Igor and DOn Frye and Tank and Frank Shamrock, Conan, Silva, Bas, Dan Severn and the whole crew from the early UFC's.

It was so much more fun to watch back then.
post #7 of 44
An ex who was an MMA fighter/trainer got me into this, and I still follow it occasionally. Only for the basest reasons though (OK, Randy Couture - sigh).
post #8 of 44
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Originally Posted by LedByMyNose View Post

An ex who was an MMA fighter/trainer got me into this, and I still follow it occasionally. Only for the basest reasons though (OK, Randy Couture - sigh).

You are not the only one who watches it for those reasons LedByMyNose. Can you say Diego Sanchez?
post #9 of 44
Well, he's gorgeous, but I seem to have a thing for that battered older man vibe. The sexiest thing about my ex was his wonky oft-broken nose. Go figure.

I agree that the sport has been nice-ified a bit but on the other hand, was there really a choice? The attraction of the original form of the sport was the no-holds-barred part - just 2 men going at it until only one was left - I totally understand the compelling and primal nature of such a competition (I enjoy boxing for this reason, too - if both fighters have chosen to be there, although it's brutal, it can also be beautiful in its own way). Maybe it comes down to founders ideas of purity - are you going to keep it as pure as possible or are you going to try to grow an audience, in order to keep the sport growing and attract more people as well as, of course, increasing revenues?

And what's with marijuana being a substance that gets people banned? In my opinion, if you can excel in a sport when you're baked, you're medal should be *upgraded*.
post #10 of 44
yep, if Ross Rebagliati can smoke the weed in Whistler and still ride the giant slalom it just goes to prove how much better he is than the silver medalist.

That stuff may be mood enhancing, but performance enhancing it ain't...

unless, of course, your sport is melting into the sofa and eating pizza.
post #11 of 44
I don't like the whole "stand up" thing either. However, I can see where it's necessary when both fighters are basically laying on each other doing nothing but gasping for air...if someone is working on submissions then let them be.

However, I have to agree that some rules and safety regulations had to be implemented.
post #12 of 44
Thread Starter 
Randy Couture vs. Brock Lesnar this Saturday...Should be pretty interesting. I would have just prefered, though, that they go strait to Couture vs Fedor.
post #13 of 44
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Originally Posted by leor_77 View Post

Randy Couture vs. Brock Lesnar this Saturday...Should be pretty interesting. I would have just prefered, though, that they go strait to Couture vs Fedor.

At least Randy stands a chance against Brock. Fedor Emelianenko? He is a beast. I give Randy tons of credit, his training regiment is amazing but I truly don't believe thats a fight we'll ever see. I certainly could be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time. I wouldn't be surprised to see Randy retire after this fight, win ,lose or draw. I do hope he pummels Brock, though BL's last fight against Heath Herring was markedly better than
against Frank Mir. Pay per view, here I come.
post #14 of 44
Thread Starter 
Ugghhh I hate Yahoo. I have to go through their site to get to my email, and they continuously ruin the fights by puting who won on the front page.
post #15 of 44
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Originally Posted by leor_77 View Post

Ugghhh I hate Yahoo. I have to go through their site to get to my email, and they continuously ruin the fights by puting who won on the front page.

Yeh, boldly declaring your "sentimental favorite" has been pummeled at 3:07 of the 2nd round,,,,, just before you kick back to watch that $49.95 ppv event you've been waiting a month to see.
Congrats.......Kenny Florian.
post #16 of 44
UFC doesn't get much coverage down here (unless it's on a cable sports channel that I don't subscribe to) other than for the Pay Per Views.

I very much enjoyed UFC when it was shown regularly for a while, replacing WWE Smackdown when the cable operator had a dispute with WWE. But then Smackdown came back, and UFC disappeared.

But my favourite MMA form to watch was the defunct Japanese Bushido, where they ran several seasons of it on cable down here. It was basically real wrestling, karate, kickboxing etc, but they couldn't punch with a clenched fist (kicking to the head when the opponent was down on all fours wasn't allowed, but the minute he lifted a hand off the floor, it was allowed). It was amazing to see how effective the submission wrestling holds could be - people merrily skip out of them like they do in WWE. There were plenty of American wrestlers there doing it for real, like Bad News Brown and Dan Severn. The legendary battles between Gary Albright and Takada, were a delight to watch. And quite frankly, those matches were also often a veritable bloodbath in comparison to the tame UFC of today.
Renato
post #17 of 44
Brock Lesnar is the UFC Champion.
Amazing, it wasn't so long ago that he was WWE's youngest champion.

I wonder if Kurt Angle won't now be tempted to do what he was going to do before going to TNA. Brock vs Kurt would be extremely interesting.
Renato
post #18 of 44
Thread Starter 
I think Brock Lesnar will now fight the winner of Noguiera and Mir (who beat him, but barely with an armbar). I don't think he would have a problem with either, and would like to see him go up against Fedor, although I don't know if that will happen.
post #19 of 44
Not a big UFC fan, but just read about Lesnar's win .. he has come a long way from being a pawn in the WWE to a genuine wrestling champ ..
post #20 of 44
Awwwww, Randy. I could patch up the cuts and make you feel better. ::laughs lechily::
post #21 of 44
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Originally Posted by Mario Justiniani View Post

Fankly, I'm waiting for a 70 year old 9th degree black belt Aikidoka to kick all their asses.

It might be a long wait . . .

Cheers,

Mario

I'm with you It's too bad that people actually confuse the UFC/MMA with traditional martial arts. You give the public what they want. The bottom line is that it is simply sophiscated barroom brawling with a referee. Most fights end up on the ground anyways, Jiu-Jitsu is king. Where's Gichen Funakoshi when you need him


Can use your feet in UFC? .....and that's with protective gear
post #22 of 44
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Originally Posted by leor_77 View Post

I think Brock Lesnar will now fight the winner of Noguiera and Mir (who beat him, but barely with an armbar). I don't think he would have a problem with either, and would like to see him go up against Fedor, although I don't know if that will happen.

Frank Mir didn't "barely" win. He baited Brock into an armbar that Brock had to tap out from. Brock is an extraordinary athlete and possesses inhuman strength, speed, and agility. Mir is a better fighter. Noguiera (interim champ who hasn't been out for 15 months like Couture) is an even better fighter. Lesnar is an NCAA wrestling champion? Awesome, but I'll take a black belt in BJJ anyday. See what Shultz (famed BYU wrestling legend) said about wrestling vs. BJJ and sparring with Royce Gracie. If Royce was still in his prime, he (at 170lbs) would take Brock out as well. He's done it to people that big for his career. Nogueira has better stamina than Mir and both are BJJ technicians (Couture isn't) so Nog will take it Dec 27th I think, then cripple Brock when they fight next year. Randy Couture got caught with a punch after getting a little too loose when he drew some blood from Brock. It shouldn't have happened. More importantly, if Dana White wasn't such a marketing whore Lesnar would still be earning his place. Who had Brock really beat before? 2-1 isn't threatening exactly. I'm so tired of the Brock talk.

- Al
post #23 of 44
Anyone hear about Fedor's representatives? When approached about a fight vs. Brock they said Brock wouldn't get past the first round against Fedor right now but after Brock gets a little better and can actually give Fedor a decent match that they would be all for it. Dana White agreed too. It's most likely true, Fedor is an assassin and the best living non BJJ fighter today but the fact that a 200lb guy who's barely 6ft can have such a perceived advantage over the 300lb (he frikin donates organs to get down to 265 for his fights I bet) 6'3 UFC champion is cracking me up. UFC is seeing its dominance crack.

- Al
post #24 of 44
Bumping this thread cuz I'll be in Montreal for the fights this weekend! I'm so excited! This will be my 7th live event, needless to say i'm a big fan.

Curious to see if there are any more UFC/MMA fans here now?
post #25 of 44
I actually like Condit's chances vs GSP. Looks like there's lots of good fights.
post #26 of 44
I find it mildly entertaining. Some of the combatants even more so.
post #27 of 44
Great fight, GSP!! I had an amazing time in Montreal this weekend!!
post #28 of 44
I didn't see it but I heard GSP wrecked CC. I also heard Anderson Silva has already started ducking GSP. I'd luv to see GSP v A.Silva.
post #29 of 44
^ I'd love to see that fight as well, and apparently it's next. Silva and Dana have already agreed to it this weekend, just waiting on Georges now. Rumored to be in May 2013, it will be the biggest grossing UFC fight of all time. Also rumored to be held at either, Rogers Center Toronto, Dallas Cowboys Stadium, or a soccer stadium in Brazil.
post #30 of 44
F that noise, they need to have that in Vegas!
post #31 of 44
I knew Henderson was gonna destroy Diaz, I'm still kicking myself for forgetting to get my Henderson & JM Marquez parlay in. I'd be up a small fortune, sigh...
post #32 of 44
Haha, gotta lay it down next time Shiny Beast! I had Benson, Rory, and Gustavson all winning...PM me if you want some pics in the future lol! Defintely didn't anticipate, and hated to see Pac go down like that. At the same time JMM deserved that win, the judges screwed him in at least one of the previous 3 fights.
post #33 of 44
Evans was kind of lackluster, I was expecting a bit more from two guys pushing for a title shot.

I kinda can't believe Overeem got dismissed like that. Hubris. He had his hands down and chin up like he was Roy Jones Jr. The good thing is you'll be able to get a good price on Overeem's next fight which he'll likely win no matter who it's against and Silva will get no respect and you'll get a good price on a dangerous opponent.

Frankie Edgar gave it a hell of a shot and I'd be interested in seeing a rematch almost as much as I'd be as interested in seeing Aldo move up to fight Ben Henderson, which would be a great fight.

I was disappointed to see Fitch get so thoroughly pwned by Maia. He's usually on the other side of that. To his credit, he was able to stop what was essentially a 15 minute submission attempt.

Benavidez looked good, but Mighty Mouse is King of that division for the foreseeable future.

Pretty good card.
post #34 of 44
Love the analysis Shiny Beast! I agree with everything you said, although I liked seeing Fitch get out-Fitched lol. Overeem had that coming to him, you can't take opponents lightly and fight with your hands at your waist and expect to not get ko'd. I loved it. As for the main event, I thought it was a close fight, like every other Frankie Edgar fight. That guy seems to always come up just a little bit short. Rumour is that Anthony Pettis is gonna drop down and fight Aldo.

Looks like the first women's ufc fight is next, what do you think about that? I have mixed emotions about it, I think they should have kept the women's division separate. Just like we have the WNBA, they shoulda started the WUFC. Just my 2 cents.
post #35 of 44
Yeah, it was interesting seeing Fitch get Fitched. I hate it that Overeem lost, I usually don't like bullies, but I've followed him for a long time and I'm a K1 fan so I luv seeing such a high caliber striker in a sport dominated by grapplers. Speaking of which, I've been seeing Tyrone Spong hanging around UFC guys for awhile now and apparently he's toying with the idea of MMA. I also heard Josh Barnett is about to become active in the UFC, which I think has potential to be interesting. Speaking of dropping down, I saw Dana White saying Dan Cormier might drop down to fight Bones, assuming he gets past Mir. Pettis vs Aldo would be killer! I'd luv to see that.

I like the broads fighting. There's not enough willing and able women to justify having their own league, you'd see an awful lot of bad fights. Rousey seems colorful, she's easy on the eyes and I know she was an olympian in Judo, which is always interesting as you don't see a lot of straight Judo fighters, although I'm sure she trains everything now. I like Marloes Coenen, I hope she gets a shot in UFC. Cyborg as well.
post #36 of 44
Thats cool about Spong, It is interesting to see people come in from other sports and test themselves in the ufc, James Toney didn't fare too well lol. I've also heard that Buakaw is training mma now too. I've heard the rumours about Barnett, him and Dana have a personal beef they'd have to settle first, perhaps they already have.

I see what you're saying about the lack of depth in women's mma. After fights with the top few girls, there's really not much else out there for Rousey. I can only dream/fantasize about Rousey vs Carano. That's one I'd tune into for sure, for reasons other than sport hehe. Idk it's just gonna be weird seeing Dan Henderson and Lyoto Machida go on before the two women. What other sport blends women & men together? I guess tennis does, but even golf has the freaking LPGA! I do think the ufc brass are in for a bit of a rude awakening when they see the ppv numbers for this event. I wonder how long the women's division will last.

On a sidenote, this topic is titled "Any UFC/MMA fans here?" Seems not anymore, it looks like it's just you and I Shiny Beast! haha
post #37 of 44
True, but Toney was a lil' old and washed up. Buakaw in MMA might be interesting. It seems late in the game for him to start learning something new, and he'll have to deal with the fact that every single fight he takes will be someone trying to take him to the ground and stay there.

Plenty of people have had beef with Dana, and Dana says a lot of absolute things that he doesn't really follow through on and at the end of the day, if there's money to be made, Dana's in. I think Barnett has potential to be an interesting foil to several of the current crop of heavy weights. On the flipside, I haven't seen him fight in quite awhile, but he's still ranked in the top 10 so he's doing something right.

True, not a lot of posts on the topic, but I'll take quality over quantity.
post #38 of 44
what champ v champ fight would you like to see most?

Mighty Mouse v Cruz
Cruz v Aldo
Aldo v Henderson
Henderson v GSP
GSP v Silva
Silva v Jones
Jones v Cain

Inb4 Mighty Mouse v Cain.
post #39 of 44
Silva/Jones for sure!
post #40 of 44
I watch the fights. I think they are homoerotic.
post #41 of 44
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I watch the fights. I think they are homoerotic.

Do they turn you on?
post #42 of 44
I used to watch it when it first came out and it was really brutal. You had Sumo type guys in with kung fu fighters and it was a real free for all until Royce Gracie began to dominant with his ground style of fighting with holds, locks etc.

I remember peoples arms been broken if they did not submit when they were caught in a armlock and one fighter broke his neck.etc

Nowdays it has been cleaned up and it's not as compelling as it once was.
post #43 of 44
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Do they turn you on?


Not exactly. I don't get phisically aroused, if you know what I mean. But I think the fights are aesthetically exciting. The guys are muscular, and there is lots of body contact. In ancient Greece, the athletes were completely naked during a fight, and this was much appreciated by the crowd.
post #44 of 44
These all appeal to me

Aldo v Henderson
Henderson v GSP
GSP v Silva
Silva v Jones

GSP v Silva is the one that stands out as those guys have the most title defenses.
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