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post #1 of 66
12/9/08 at 6:46am
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Outline for us a juice you'd love to see. Here's one I just came up with:


Top: Ginger, lime, anise, cumin
Body: Vetiver, molasses
Base: Leather, burnt hair

Burnt hair? Burnt hair?! That's one of the most appalling smells in the spectrum! you say. Well, yes. But I think, combined with other stuff, it would instead form the base of an animal, creamy mustiness I'm positive would execute well.

My perfume's name? Tar. This isn't an attempt to recreate the material olfactorily, but to exploit its connotations. Sticky, treacly, fumey, viscous. I suppose you'd classify it as a woody-gourmand. Definitely not for summer/spring.

(Surely there must be a similar existing thread, but it'd be a bitch to find.)
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post #2 of 66
12/9/08 at 6:56am
War.
The smell of war. War has been a civilization engine, we can tell history through war.
Fire, heat, gun powder, raw steel, leather boots, dust, soil, blood, mud, jet fuel, smoke of all sorts, swords crashing ... victory, defeat.
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post #3 of 66
12/9/08 at 7:04am
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I can see a War series coming out of a house like Comme de Garcons actually.

CdG Kokoda, CdG Seelow, CdG Palestine, CdG Iwojima, etc. with a metal-soil-octane thematic binder. Mad.
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post #4 of 66
12/9/08 at 7:26am
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War.
The smell of war. War has been a civilization engine, we can tell history through war.
Fire, heat, gun powder, raw steel, leather boots, dust, soil, blood, mud, jet fuel, smoke of all sorts, swords crashing ... victory, defeat.

Seeing your relatives torn apart by the "enemy", your wife raped, your children killed. Great
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post #5 of 66
12/9/08 at 7:34am
Here are a couple I've wanted:

Frankincense; Clove; Carnation; Pepper; Rose

Cognac; Cananga; Sandalwood; Myrrh; Leather
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post #6 of 66
12/9/08 at 7:42am
Seawater, seaweed, sweat, sweet dry hemp rope and clean linen sailcloth.

I've wanted this forever...
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post #7 of 66
12/9/08 at 7:46am
war was , is and will be ,pure human nature.
I just saying that the smell of war is as ancient as our own civilization, capturing it in a fragrance could be interesting.
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post #8 of 66
12/9/08 at 8:09am
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Seawater, seaweed, sweat, sweet dry hemp rope and clean linen sailcloth.

I've wanted this forever...

Me too! Erolfa comes pretty close though.
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post #9 of 66
12/9/08 at 8:21am
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Originally Posted by brianroy View Post

Seeing your relatives torn apart by the "enemy", your wife raped, your children killed. Great

I was going to say that any perfume that glamourises war will certainly not be worn by me.
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post #10 of 66
12/9/08 at 8:22am
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Originally Posted by Hide & Reason View Post

Burnt hair? Burnt hair?! That's one of the most appalling smells in the spectrum! you say. Well, yes.

I'd buy it.
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post #11 of 66
12/9/08 at 8:41am
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Brian I did not said that, you did. No offense intended.
war was , is and will be ,pure human nature. I have not pronounced myself on my take of war.
I just saying that the smell of war is as ancient as our own civilization, capturing it in a fragrance could be interesting.

I don't think it was offending what you said. It just sounded strange to me. I understand what your saying, but I don't get it
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post #12 of 66
12/9/08 at 8:42am
I want a proper foody scent for breakfast. Like eggs and cheese.

Eau-mlette du Formage
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post #13 of 66
12/9/08 at 8:43am
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I'm heartened to see such principled anti-war politics anywhere, but people, come on, this is a perfume forum: we're all romantics. Our hobby is fundamenetally about romanticism. Lighten up.

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Originally Posted by SirSlarty

I want a proper foody scent for breakfast. Like eggs and cheese.

What about breakfast cereal and toast? Bung in a orange note and you've got OJ!
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post #14 of 66
12/9/08 at 8:44am
easy answer...

"The Girl with the Plums"
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post #15 of 66
12/9/08 at 8:47am
Autumn

Some mix of pumpkin or pumpkin pie, spices and fireplace smell in the cold night air.
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post #16 of 66
12/9/08 at 8:58am
Because in the last decade are launching a terrible number of supersweets, vanillesques, gourmands, and cheap-candy-store fragances (yes, I hate them), a new twist in the genre: Chocolate, milk, cointreau, vanilla, cinnamon, caramel... 0% alcohol, and made with ALL COMESTIBLE materials. Thick and stinky. Maybe longevity would be a handicap, but man, you can either put on your skin or drink it!!! (High caloric level)


Reading this post I was wondering what would be the first fragance with the first component born out of planet earth (a strange dusty mineral from mars, venus... or whatever). I'm a freak hehe
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post #17 of 66
12/9/08 at 9:09am
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The scent of the the female breast.

Some milky jasmine with a base of benzoin, natural vanilla and the softest musk far beneath would be a good start for this. Not that I'd like to wear it, but it should exist. I can't make it since I have not found anything natural to use for a milky cream note, only a few synthetics that leave much to ask for.

Edit: Sorry, not exactly a male fragrance! But some men would love it, I'm sure.
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post #18 of 66
12/9/08 at 9:27am
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I'm heartened to see such principled anti-war politics anywhere, but people, come on, this is a perfume forum: we're all romantics.

Indeed we are romantics. Yet there is nothing romantic about war.
I understand I'm being a nag, I'll stop nagging about it, so from now on I'll keep it on the fragrance-talk.
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post #19 of 66
12/9/08 at 9:36am
hi Brian. yes it is strange that I mentioned war but... I still think that war is an unleashed explosion of human primal instincts,
But,,,, lets keep everything in a fragrance context.
Peace and love!
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post #20 of 66
12/9/08 at 9:37am
A version of Comme des Garçons 2 Man with some longevity.
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post #21 of 66
12/9/08 at 9:50am
The art of war is is supposed to be a fascinating book. I get what you're saying, it's only impossible for me to imagine a fragrance smelling like war. What would it be like? Lots of smokey notes? "Burned" notes? Something "smelling like blood" like they say is in Secretions Magnifique? Very hard 2 imagine.
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post #22 of 66
12/9/08 at 9:55am
Eau De Pepsi Blue. Greatest soda ever. Greatest taste ever. Greatest SMELL ever. When you still sniff a 5 year old can every now and then, you know there's SOMETHING going right with that scent that's still hangin' in there.
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post #23 of 66
12/9/08 at 10:16am
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Eau De Pepsi Blue. Greatest soda ever. Greatest taste ever. Greatest SMELL ever. When you still sniff a 5 year old can every now and then, you know there's SOMETHING going right with that scent that's still hangin' in there.

Kola nut and coca leaf really is an amazing accord - whether heavily sweetened or not. Now that you mention it I'm really surprised it doesn't get used more.
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post #24 of 66
12/9/08 at 10:35am
How about a cologne.. that smells like you just came back from the beach?! [/seinfeld]

Actually, I wouldn't create a Sea one. Bond no. 9 Coney Island does that perfectly, even though it adds cotton candy.

If I were to create one, it would be Hawaiian Punch. God, I love Hawaiian Punch. It's a shame they don't sell it in Canada anymore.

I think the structure would be similar to Champs-Elysees by Guerlain (with the hibiscus, etc), but it would be EXTREMELY heavy on citrus, apple, cherry, and grape notes.
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post #25 of 66
12/9/08 at 11:44am
An ultimate comfort scent that creates an aura of warmth, familiarity, and sensuality around the wearer would be nice. It would go something like this...

Top: Vanilla Absolute, Rum Absolute, Dried Fruits, Orchid
Body: Iris Pallida, Black Tea, Honeyed Hay
Base: Papier d'Arménie Accord (Frankincense & Benzoin) , Ambergris, Russian Leather, Sandalwood, Balsams
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post #26 of 66
12/9/08 at 12:01pm
There are some good cola frags, such as Escada Magnetism for men and Escada Collection. Are there any smooth tobacco, leather, and chocolate frags (meaning all three are in it)?
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post #27 of 66
12/9/08 at 12:21pm
ever since i heard there was a spongebob fragrance, i've dreamt of a fragrance that does indeed smell like pineapples under the sea.
fresh pineapple, seaweed, rust, "sealife" accord, salty vetiver, whatever it is in beyond paradise that makes it smell of driftwood.

and m7 extreme...
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post #28 of 66
12/9/08 at 12:28pm
Brian.
It is hard to imagine, I have been in some "hot" zones, almost war environment and there is something in the air that smell....
I guess every war along the times had its own smell, to isolate that in a few notes will be impossible, but it will be interesting ( given possible)
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post #29 of 66
12/9/08 at 12:36pm
How about 'Théâtre de film', for the man who wants to smell of fresh buttered popcorn...

Ok, maybe not such a good idea.
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post #30 of 66
12/9/08 at 12:46pm
Will you gentlemen who'd like to discuss war take it to personal messages please? That's not the subject of the thread and many members are talking about the subject of the thread.

By an easy stretch I might point out to you that talking war is close enough to talking politics, and talking politics is against the Basenotes rules.

Please, take that off-topic sub theme and your reflections to personal messages please.
--Chris
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post #31 of 66
12/9/08 at 1:06pm
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Originally Posted by brianroy View Post

Indeed we are romantics. Yet there is nothing romantic about war.
I understand I'm being a nag, I'll stop nagging about it, so from now on I'll keep it on the fragrance-talk.

EDIT: Sorry DustB, I just read your post!

War is an act that is full of emotion and pain and consequences, therefore I think of it as highly romantic and a compelling subject for any creative work. Just look at how many great novels and movies have been made. I am not saying war is just, but I do see the capacity of artistic expression in it; and in this political climate, how fitting.

But back to the subject: I'd love to have the smell of plastic/tile staircases (maybe laced with turpentine?), wood doors/furniture and brewing coffee, it reminds me of my father's old office.
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post #32 of 66
12/9/08 at 1:21pm
Topnote: Buddha Hand, Lychee
Heart: Rose, Osmanthus Tea, Bamboo Leaves, with just the slightest touch of Mace
Basenotes: Nepalese Temple Balls, Real Musk, Bamboo Wood, Golden Amber, Castoreum
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post #33 of 66
12/9/08 at 1:43pm
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Originally Posted by Gblue View Post

ever since i heard there was a spongebob fragrance, i've dreamt of a fragrance that does indeed smell like pineapples under the sea.
fresh pineapple, seaweed, rust, "sealife" accord, salty vetiver, whatever it is in beyond paradise that makes it smell of driftwood.

and m7 extreme...

You and me are on the same page I think. I want a sea scent that's less clean, fresh and more briny, seaweedy.

I'd call it "Auld Salt" or maybe "Sailor Boy."
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post #34 of 66
12/9/08 at 2:04pm
I'd like some company to invent a scent that smells like pina colada blunt wraps. I don't smoke but work in a shop, we sell it and they smell wonderful out of the package, still wet.
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post #35 of 66
12/9/08 at 2:08pm
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Originally Posted by alkman View Post

You and me are on the same page I think. I want a sea scent that's less clean, fresh and more briny, seaweedy.

I'd call it "Auld Salt" or maybe "Sailor Boy."

Sell it in Bristol Blue glass and I'm in!
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post #36 of 66
12/9/08 at 4:15pm
When I was a kid (in the RADICAL 80's), there were these scented erasers that smell really good. I couldn't for the life of me describe this smell to you, but I remember it was sweet and fruity. Combine that with the smell of the scented pencils that came out of the machine on the wall in the library in my elementary school, and the smell of "Teen Spirit" shampoo. That's what I want! Eau d'Elementary!
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post #37 of 66
12/9/08 at 5:19pm
something with REAL panther bits
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post #38 of 66
12/9/08 at 6:20pm
A linear, natural smelling synthetic, bergamot/clementine/petitgrain/sacra-Frankincense(the lemony frankincense from the gulf) scent with Joop sillage and longevity.
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post #39 of 66
12/9/08 at 6:23pm
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Originally Posted by brianroy View Post

I'd like some company to invent a scent that smells like pina colada blunt wraps. I don't smoke but work in a shop, we sell it and they smell wonderful out of the package, still wet.

LOL Buy Demeter Pina Coloda and BR Black Walnut and mix.
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post #40 of 66
12/9/08 at 6:25pm
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Originally Posted by moltening View Post

An ultimate comfort scent that creates an aura of warmth, familiarity, and sensuality around the wearer would be nice. It would go something like this...

Top: Vanilla Absolute, Rum Absolute, Dried Fruits, Orchid
Body: Iris Pallida, Black Tea, Honeyed Hay
Base: Papier d'Arménie Accord (Frankincense & Benzoin) , Ambergris, Russian Leather, Sandalwood, Balsams

I'mg guessing you really like Kors for men.
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post #41 of 66
12/9/08 at 8:59pm
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Originally Posted by alkman View Post

Kola nut and coca leaf really is an amazing accord - whether heavily sweetened or not. Now that you mention it I'm really surprised it doesn't get used more.

I'll have to look into cola frags, that sound good, but Pepsi Blue is Blue Raspberry/Cola. Anything of that sort? I didn't figure... It's that really artificial smell too
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post #42 of 66
12/9/08 at 10:30pm
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I'mg guessing you really like Kors for men.

Nah, for comfort, I like Bois d'Armenie, Papier d'Armenie, SdV, and Ambre Narguile.
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post #43 of 66
12/9/08 at 10:40pm
Dial-A-Perfume

200+ cartridges of your choosing.
Hundreds of nanoswitches, remote control dial-a-fragrance.
'Sure beats mixing up things with droppers and what-not.

One bottle.
More shelf-space.
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post #44 of 66
12/9/08 at 11:27pm
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Originally Posted by iez View Post

The scent of the the female breast.

Some milky jasmine with a base of benzoin, natural vanilla and the softest musk far beneath would be a good start for this. Not that I'd like to wear it, but it should exist. I can't make it since I have not found anything natural to use for a milky cream note, only a few synthetics that leave much to ask for.

Edit: Sorry, not exactly a male fragrance! But some men would love it, I'm sure.

That's quite interesting. I was going to mention about the scent of a woman on her used clothes, but you've suggested something far more intimate. Me likey
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post #45 of 66
12/9/08 at 11:31pm
The smell of baby skin.
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post #46 of 66
12/9/08 at 11:44pm
Something that captures the extremely crisp freshness of winter air. It should be ethereal, diffusive; creating a subtle aura around you that enlivens the spirit.
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post #47 of 66
12/10/08 at 1:01am
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Originally Posted by iez View Post

The scent of the the female breast.

Some milky jasmine with a base of benzoin, natural vanilla and the softest musk far beneath would be a good start for this. Not that I'd like to wear it, but it should exist. I can't make it since I have not found anything natural to use for a milky cream note, only a few synthetics that leave much to ask for.

Edit: Sorry, not exactly a male fragrance! But some men would love it, I'm sure.

Yes! the scent of a cleavage. I have been loking for a scent like that for a while.They can hold the milky notes though. Sorry, lactose intolerant here.
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post #48 of 66
12/10/08 at 1:07am
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The smell of baby skin.

HAve you smelled white musk by Montale?
Who am I kidding? I am sure you have the first day I wore it I dreamt that my girlfriend was pregnant It evoked a power response I guess.
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post #49 of 66
12/10/08 at 2:49am
some great ideas there!
Coming from 'where I do', I'd love to have a fragrance that smells of the Australian bush.
Top: Sydney Brown Boronia and Lemon-scented Gum
Mid: Wattle flower, Native Frangipani (Hymenospermum Flavum) and a light 'bush-fire' accord
Base: Amber and 'Eucalyptus ash'
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post #50 of 66
12/10/08 at 3:33am
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Unfortunately to my knowledge most local perfumes have only ever tried to remix the usual herbal and floral suspects. So much ignored potential in the way of indigenous ingredients... redgum, jarrah, huon, wattle, frangi, tea tree, brown boronia, macadamia, et al.
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post #51 of 66
12/10/08 at 12:14pm
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Unfortunately to my knowledge most local perfumes have only ever tried to remix the usual herbal and floral suspects. So much ignored potential in the way of indigenous ingredients... redgum, jarrah, huon, wattle, frangi, tea tree, brown boronia, macadamia, et al.

So true! The potential is enormous. We just need someone like Jean-Claude Ellena or Andy Tauer to spend some time over here! It amazes me why our brown boronia is not used more extensively. It has the most beautiful, elusive scent I know of. Shame it's such a prima donna and promptly dies whenever I try to grow it!
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post #52 of 66
12/10/08 at 12:55pm
I want (and who knows, may one day commission or create myself) a frag based on my lifelong hobby of electronics design.

notes
tricholoroethane accord (aka "trike", a sweet, etheric solvent used to clean circuit boards)
solder rosin smoke (basically burning amber)
hot metal
vinyl accord (plastic wire jacketing)
overheated fiberglass resin accord (toasted circuit board)

Description: a bright and lightly sweet oriental, with sharp (but not heavy) smoky notes and a dark, rich ambery drydown.

...it would have to be tinted beige, and it would come in a tall, cylindrical bottle with colored stripes painted around it, so it looks like a big resistor.

I've yet to come up with a clever name for it.
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post #53 of 66
12/10/08 at 1:03pm
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I want (and who knows, may one day commission or create myself) a frag based on my lifelong hobby of electronics design.

notes
tricholoroethane accord (aka "trike", a sweet, etheric solvent used to clean circuit boards)
solder rosin smoke (basically burning amber)
hot metal
vinyl accord (plastic wire jacketing)
overheated fiberglass resin accord (toasted circuit board)

Description: a bright and lightly sweet oriental, with sharp (but not heavy) smoky notes and a dark, rich ambery drydown.

...it would have to be tinted beige, and it would come in a tall, cylindrical bottle with colored stripes painted around it, so it looks like a big resistor.

I've yet to come up with a clever name for it.

I'm sure if you're persistent enough, Comme Des Garcons would do all of that for you as part of their synthetic line.
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post #54 of 66
12/10/08 at 1:07pm
Great idea! I hadn't thought of that! Thanks!
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post #55 of 66
12/10/08 at 2:02pm
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Originally Posted by andylama View Post

I want (and who knows, may one day commission or create myself) a frag based on my lifelong hobby of electronics design.

notes
tricholoroethane accord (aka "trike", a sweet, etheric solvent used to clean circuit boards)
solder rosin smoke (basically burning amber)
hot metal
vinyl accord (plastic wire jacketing)
overheated fiberglass resin accord (toasted circuit board)

Description: a bright and lightly sweet oriental, with sharp (but not heavy) smoky notes and a dark, rich ambery drydown.

...it would have to be tinted beige, and it would come in a tall, cylindrical bottle with colored stripes painted around it, so it looks like a big resistor.

I've yet to come up with a clever name for it.

Eau de Resistance :-P
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post #56 of 66
12/10/08 at 2:08pm
Eau De' Scarlett Johannson Bicycle Seat (Fraiche).
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post #57 of 66
12/10/08 at 2:54pm
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...it would have to be tinted beige, and it would come in a tall, cylindrical bottle with colored stripes painted around it, so it looks like a big resistor.

I've yet to come up with a clever name for it.


Why not call it Resistor?
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post #58 of 66
12/10/08 at 3:02pm
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Eau de Resistance :-P

I was thinking "Piece de Resistance".
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post #59 of 66
12/10/08 at 3:11pm
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Originally Posted by iez View Post

Why not call it Resistor?

I'd prefer something more cheeky, less utilitarian.

Milliamperes?
L'Eau d'Ohms?
Jicky?

OK, that was just silly.
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post #60 of 66
12/10/08 at 4:16pm
Opening: Citrus (litte to give it a 3 second sparkle), Basil, Wormwood, Artemisia

Heart: Cedarwood, Rose Absolute, Celery, Geramium, Patchouly, Rosewood

Base: Castoreum, Leather, Ambergris (like in Mazzolari Lui), Sandalwood, Labdanum, Styrax, Musk

The scent opens bright and dry, just to give it some sparkle, some vision of outcome. Every topnote is unsweet and it announces the upcoming notes, being pretty civilized in the opening accord. After that, one enters Dante's Inferno and Paradiso at the same time, abandoning all hope but merging with love-in itself. The rose and rosewood darken the fragrance, which was so bright at the top, the patchouly somewhat sweetens it compared to the overall midnotes. When trespassing hell, and entering heaven, everything is turned in pure emotion, a form morality beyond good and evil, beauty, life, animalism, hatred, fear, but beyond all, power, captured in the will to live.

In the end, all it tries, is to live forever...
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