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post #1 of 154
Thread Starter 
Has anyone taken the MBTI test? Here's a link: http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp

I'd be fascinated to see what people on this board are. My boyfriend and I took and now he reckons he has a big stick to beat me with because famous people of his type include Mother Teresa and Ghandi, and famous people of my type include, uh...Bill Gates and Margaret Thatcher. Oh dear.

So if anyone else turns out to be an ENTJ, like me, perhaps we can collude in a 'Basenotes, then the World' world domination type plan? Who's in?

ENTJs: have a natural tendency to marshal and direct. This may be expressed with the charm and finesse of a world leader or with the insensitivity of a cult leader. The ENTJ requires little encouragement to make a plan. One ENTJ put it this way... "I make these little plans that really don't have any importance to anyone else, and then feel compelled to carry them out." While "compelled" may not describe ENTJs as a group, nevertheless the bent to plan creatively and to make those plans reality is a common theme for NJ types.

ENTJs focus on the most efficient and organized means of performing a task. This quality, along with their goal orientation, often makes ENTJs superior leaders, both realistic and visionary in implementing a long-term plan. ENTJs tend to be fiercly independent in their decision making, having a strong will that insulates them against external influence. Generally highly competent, ENTJs analyze and structure the world around them in a logical and rational way. Due to this straightforward way of thinking, ENTJs tend to have the greatest difficulty of all the types in applying subjective considerations and emotional values into the decision-making process.

ENTJs often excel in business and other areas that require systems analysis, original thinking, and an economically savvy mind. They are dynamic and pragmatic problem solvers. They tend to have a high degree of confidence in their own abilities, making them assertive and outspoken. In their dealings with others, they are generally outgoing, charismatic, fair-minded, and unaffected by conflict or criticism. However, these qualities can make ENTJs appear arrogant, insensitive, and confrontational. They can overwhelm others with their energy, intelligence, and desire to order the world according to their own vision. As a result, they may seem intimidating, hasty, and controlling.

ENTJs tend to cultivate their personal power. They often end up taking charge of a situation that seems (to their mind, at least) to be out of control, or that can otherwise be improved upon and strengthened. They strive to learn new things, which helps them become resourceful problem-solvers. However, since ENTJs rely on provable facts, they may find subjective issues pointless. ENTJs appear to take a tough approach to emotional or personal issues, and so can be viewed as aloof and cold-hearted. In situations requiring feeling and value judgments, ENTJs are well served to seek the advice of a trusted Feeling type.

Notable ENTJs include Napoleon Bonaparte, Margaret Thatcher, Golda Meir, and Bill Gates.
post #2 of 154
Extraverted iNtuitive Feeling Judging
by Joe Butt

Profile: ENFJ
Revision: 3.0
Date of Revision: 23 Feb 2005

ENFJs are the benevolent 'pedagogues' of humanity. They have tremendous charisma by which many are drawn into their nurturant tutelage and/or grand schemes. Many ENFJs have tremendous power to manipulate others with their phenomenal interpersonal skills and unique salesmanship. But it's usually not meant as manipulation -- ENFJs generally believe in their dreams, and see themselves as helpers and enablers, which they usually are.

ENFJs are global learners. They see the big picture. The ENFJs focus is expansive. Some can juggle an amazing number of responsibilities or projects simultaneously. Many ENFJs have tremendous entrepreneurial ability.

ENFJs are, by definition, Js, with whom we associate organization and decisiveness. But they don't resemble the SJs or even the NTJs in organization of the environment nor occasional recalcitrance. ENFJs are organized in the arena of interpersonal affairs. Their offices may or may not be cluttered, but their conclusions (reached through feelings) about people and motives are drawn much more quickly and are more resilient than those of their NFP counterparts.

ENFJs know and appreciate people. Like most NFs, (and Feelers in general), they are apt to neglect themselves and their own needs for the needs of others. They have thinner psychological boundaries than most, and are at risk for being hurt or even abused by less sensitive people. ENFJs often take on more of the burdens of others than they can bear.
TRADEMARK: "The first shall be last"

This refers to the open-door policy of ENFJs. One ENFJ colleague always welcomes me into his office regardless of his own circumstances. If another person comes to the door, he allows them to interrupt our conversation with their need. While discussing that need, the phone rings and he stops to answer it. Others drop in with a 'quick question.' I finally get up, go to my office and use the call waiting feature on the telephone. When he hangs up, I have his undivided attention!
post #3 of 154
Haven't done this in a while but I used to be an INFP.
post #4 of 154
ENFJ for me.

My peeps are Ronald Reagan, Pope John Paul II, Nick Nolte, Katharine Graham and Tony Blair.
post #5 of 154
INFJ

Idealist Portrait of the Counselor (INFJ)
Counselors have an exceptionally strong desire to contribute to the welfare of others, and find great personal fulfillment interacting with people, nurturing their personal development, guiding them to realize their human potential. Although they are happy working at jobs (such as writing) that require solitude and close attention, Counselors do quite well with individuals or groups of people, provided that the personal interactions are not superficial, and that they find some quiet, private time every now and then to recharge their batteries. Counselors are both kind and positive in their handling of others; they are great listeners and seem naturally interested in helping people with their personal problems. Not usually visible leaders, Counselors prefer to work intensely with those close to them, especially on a one-to-one basis, quietly exerting their influence behind the scenes.

Counselors are scarce, little more than one percent of the population, and can be hard to get to know, since they tend not to share their innermost thoughts or their powerful emotional reactions except with their loved ones. They are highly private people, with an unusually rich, complicated inner life. Friends or colleagues who have known them for years may find sides emerging which come as a surprise. Not that Counselors are flighty or scattered; they value their integrity a great deal, but they have mysterious, intricately woven personalities which sometimes puzzle even them.

Counselors tend to work effectively in organizations. They value staff harmony and make every effort to help an organization run smoothly and pleasantly. They understand and use human systems creatively, and are good at consulting and cooperating with others. As employees or employers, Counselors are concerned with people's feelings and are able to act as a barometer of the feelings within the organization.

Blessed with vivid imaginations, Counselors are often seen as the most poetical of all the types, and in fact they use a lot of poetic imagery in their everyday language. Their great talent for language-both written and spoken-is usually directed toward communicating with people in a personalized way. Counselors are highly intuitive and can recognize another's emotions or intentions - good or evil - even before that person is aware of them. Counselors themselves can seldom tell how they came to read others' feelings so keenly. This extreme sensitivity to others could very well be the basis of the Counselor's remarkable ability to experience a whole array of psychic phenomena.

Funnily enough it listed Design as an INFJ-appropriate profession (I am a Graphic/Web Designer).

Others like me: John Bradshaw, Mother Teresa, Nelson Mandela, John Calvin, Nicole Kidman, Sidney Poitier, Eleanor Roosevelt, Jane Goodall, Emily Bronte, Sir Alec Guiness, Carl Jung, Mary Baker Eddy, Queen Noor
post #6 of 154
Here's how I scored a year ago.

Extraverted iNtuitive Feeling Perceiving (ENFP), aka Champion Idealists

ENFPs are both "idea"-people and "people"-people, who see everyone and everything as part of an often bizarre cosmic whole. They want to both help (at least, their own definition of "help") and be liked and admired by other people, on both an individual and a humanitarian level. They are interested in new ideas in principle, but ultimately move on for one reason or another. ENFPs often have strong, if unconventional, convictions on various issues related to their Cosmic View. ENFPs are pleasant, easygoing, and usually fun to work with. ENFPs hate bureaucracy, both in principle and in practice; they will always make a point of launching one of their crusades against some aspect of it. ENFPs are global learners. Close enough is satisfactory to the ENFP, which may unnerve more precise thinking types. Famous ENFPs include Mark Twain and Dr. Seuss. Suitable career -- teacher (which I am).
post #7 of 154
Hey, Dimitri! I'm an INFJ, too.

That's beating the odds, isn't it? Given that "Counselors are scarce, little more than one percent of the population."

Hey, Dimitri! I'm a graphic designer, too! I do magazines.

Introverted/11
Intuitive/75
Feeling/12
Judging/67
post #8 of 154
I came out as ESFJ and here is what it has to say:

Guardian Portrait of the Provider (ESFJ)
Providers take it upon themselves to insure the health and welfare of those in their care, but they are also the most sociable of all the Guardians, and thus are the great nurturers of social institutions such as schools, churches, social clubs, and civic groups. Providers are very likely more than ten percent of the population, and this is fortunate for the rest of us, because friendly social service is a key to their nature. Wherever they go, Providers happily give their time and energy to make sure that the needs of others are met, and that social functions are a success.

Highly cooperative themselves, Providers are skilled in maintaining teamwork among their helpers, and are also tireless in their attention to the details of furnishing goods and services. They make excellent chairpersons in charge of dances, banquets, class reunions, charity fund-raisers, and the like. They are without peer as masters of ceremonies, able to speak publicly with ease and confidence. And they are outstanding hosts or hostesses, knowing everyone by name, and seemingly aware of what everyone's been doing. Providers love to entertain, and are always concerned about the needs of their guests, wanting to make sure that all are involved and provided for.

Friendly, outgoing, neighborly - in a word, Providers are gregarious, so much so that they can become restless when isolated from people. They love to talk with others, and will often strike up a conversation with strangers and chat pleasantly about any topic that comes to mind. Friendships matter a great deal to Providers, and their conversations with friends often touch on good times from years past. Family traditions are also sacred to them, and they carefully observe birthdays and anniversaries. In addition, Providers show a delightful fascination with news of their friends and neighbors. If we wish to know what's been going on in the local community, school, or church, they're happy to fill us in on all the details.

Providers are extremely sensitive to the feelings of others, which makes them perhaps the most sympathetic of all the types, but which also leaves them somewhat self-conscious, that is, highly sensitive to what others think of them. Loving and affectionate themselves, they need to be loved in return. In fact, Providers can be crushed by personal criticism, and are happiest when given ample appreciation both for themselves personally and for the tireless service they give to others.

William Howard Taft, Barbara Walters, J C Penney, Ray Kroc, Louis B. Mayer, Sam Walton, Dolley Madison, and Dave Thomas are examples of Provider Guardians.
post #9 of 154
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Originally Posted by LedByMyNose View Post

Has anyone taken the MBTI test? Here's a link: http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp

I'd be fascinated to see what people on this board are. My boyfriend and I took and now he reckons he has a big stick to beat me with because famous people of his type include Mother Teresa and Ghandi, and famous people of my type include, uh...Bill Gates and Margaret Thatcher. Oh dear.

So if anyone else turns out to be an ENTJ, like me, perhaps we can collude in a 'Basenotes, then the World' world domination type plan? Who's in?

Well, I guess I we can start our club of two! I'm an ENTJ, although I am fairly low on the T and J. Shamefully high on the E and pretty up there on the N. My only consolation (I think) is that with one or two answer changes, I might have tilted from T to F. So, perhaps I'm not one of the insensitive sorts.

Not surprisingly, I wound up in my career (somewhat unintentionally) in a leadership position. Maybe I was meant to be an F and my job pushed me over the edge?
post #10 of 154
Your Type is
INTJ

Strength of the preferences %
Introverted\t33
Intuitive 100
Thinking\t62
Judging 67
\t\t

Quote:
Rational Portrait of the Mastermind (INTJ)

All Rationals are good at planning operations, but Masterminds are head and shoulders above all the rest in contingency planning. Complex operations involve many steps or stages, one following another in a necessary progression, and Masterminds are naturally able to grasp how each one leads to the next, and to prepare alternatives for difficulties that are likely to arise any step of the way. Trying to anticipate every contingency, Masterminds never set off on their current project without a Plan A firmly in mind, but they are always prepared to switch to Plan B or C or D if need be.
Masterminds are rare, comprising no more than, say, one percent of the population, and they are rarely encountered outside their office, factory, school, or laboratory. Although they are highly capable leaders, Masterminds are not at all eager to take command, preferring to stay in the background until others demonstrate their inability to lead. Once they take charge, however, they are thoroughgoing pragmatists. Masterminds are certain that efficiency is indispensable in a well-run organization, and if they encounter inefficiency-any waste of human and material resources-they are quick to realign operations and reassign personnel. Masterminds do not feel bound by established rules and procedures, and traditional authority does not impress them, nor do slogans or catchwords. Only ideas that make sense to them are adopted; those that don't, aren't, no matter who thought of them. Remember, their aim is always maximum efficiency.

In their careers, Masterminds usually rise to positions of responsibility, for they work long and hard and are dedicated in their pursuit of goals, sparing neither their own time and effort nor that of their colleagues and employees. Problem-solving is highly stimulating to Masterminds, who love responding to tangled systems that require careful sorting out. Ordinarily, they verbalize the positive and avoid comments of a negative nature; they are more interested in moving an organization forward than dwelling on mistakes of the past.

Masterminds tend to be much more definite and self-confident than other Rationals, having usually developed a very strong will. Decisions come easily to them; in fact, they can hardly rest until they have things settled and decided. But before they decide anything, they must do the research. Masterminds are highly theoretical, but they insist on looking at all available data before they embrace an idea, and they are suspicious of any statement that is based on shoddy research, or that is not checked against reality.

Alan Greenspan, Ben Bernanke, Dwight D. Eisenhower, General Ulysses S. Grant, Frideriche Nietsche, Niels Bohr, Peter the Great, Stephen Hawking, John Maynard Keynes, Lise Meitner", Ayn Rand and Sir Isaac Newton are examples of Rational Masterminds.

LOL
post #11 of 154
ISFJ like Chopin.
post #12 of 154
ISTJ here, aka Introverted Sensing Thinking Judging, aka "inspector". Boarderline INTJ.

"The one word that best describes Inspectors is superdependable. Whether at home or at work, Inspectors are extraordinarily persevering and dutiful, particularly when it comes to keeping an eye on the people and products they are responsible for. In their quiet way, Inspectors see to it that rules are followed, laws are respected, and standards are upheld.

"Inspectors (as much as ten percent of the general population) are the true guardians of institutions. They are patient with their work and with the procedures within an institution, although not always with the unauthorized behavior of some people in that institution. Responsible to the core, Inspectors like it when people know their duties, follow the guidelines, and operate within the rules. For their part, Inspectors will see to it that goods are examined and schedules are kept, that resources will be up to standards and delivered when and where they are supposed to be. And they would prefer that everyone be this dependable. Inspectors can be hard-nosed about the need for following the rules in the workplace, and do not hesitate to report irregularities to the proper authorities. Because of this they are often misjudged as being hard-hearted, or as having ice in their veins, for people fail to see their good intentions and their vulnerability to criticism. Also, because Inspectors usually make their inspections without much flourish or fanfare, the dedication they bring to their work can go unnoticed and unappreciated."

Fits me pretty well.
post #13 of 154
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Originally Posted by anamari View Post

I came out as ESFJ and here is what it has to say:

Guardian Portrait of the Provider (ESFJ)
Providers take it upon themselves to insure the health and welfare of those in their care, but they are also the most sociable of all the Guardians, and thus are the great nurturers of social institutions such as schools, churches, social clubs, and civic groups. Providers are very likely more than ten percent of the population, and this is fortunate for the rest of us, because friendly social service is a key to their nature. Wherever they go, Providers happily give their time and energy to make sure that the needs of others are met, and that social functions are a success.

Highly cooperative themselves, Providers are skilled in maintaining teamwork among their helpers, and are also tireless in their attention to the details of furnishing goods and services. They make excellent chairpersons in charge of dances, banquets, class reunions, charity fund-raisers, and the like. They are without peer as masters of ceremonies, able to speak publicly with ease and confidence. And they are outstanding hosts or hostesses, knowing everyone by name, and seemingly aware of what everyone's been doing. Providers love to entertain, and are always concerned about the needs of their guests, wanting to make sure that all are involved and provided for.

Friendly, outgoing, neighborly - in a word, Providers are gregarious, so much so that they can become restless when isolated from people. They love to talk with others, and will often strike up a conversation with strangers and chat pleasantly about any topic that comes to mind. Friendships matter a great deal to Providers, and their conversations with friends often touch on good times from years past. Family traditions are also sacred to them, and they carefully observe birthdays and anniversaries. In addition, Providers show a delightful fascination with news of their friends and neighbors. If we wish to know what's been going on in the local community, school, or church, they're happy to fill us in on all the details.

Providers are extremely sensitive to the feelings of others, which makes them perhaps the most sympathetic of all the types, but which also leaves them somewhat self-conscious, that is, highly sensitive to what others think of them. Loving and affectionate themselves, they need to be loved in return. In fact, Providers can be crushed by personal criticism, and are happiest when given ample appreciation both for themselves personally and for the tireless service they give to others.

William Howard Taft, Barbara Walters, J C Penney, Ray Kroc, Louis B. Mayer, Sam Walton, Dolley Madison, and Dave Thomas are examples of Provider Guardians.

ESFJ also.
post #14 of 154
INTJ - the Mastermind, lol, yeah, that's me. Actually when I first took this test in middle school, I was rated evenly between INTJ and INFJ. I think with age I've just gotten way more control over my emotions.
post #15 of 154
ESFJ
Extraverted 11
Sensing 19
Feeling 38
Judging 33





You are:
  • slightly expressed extravert
  • slightly expressed sensing personality
  • moderately expressed feeling personality
  • moderately expressed judging personality
There's something terribly wrong with this test, I have no feelings


Wait a minute, I missed one question so it skewed the outcome and I have to do it over I'll do it later.
post #16 of 154
Intp
post #17 of 154
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Originally Posted by silverbullet View Post



Wait a minute, I missed one question so it skewed the outcome and I have to do it over Nope, ain't doing it

Well, that then immediately makes you a special *CBFA type, of which there are 89% of the population.



























*Can't Be Fucking Asked
post #18 of 154
I'm an ENFJ
post #19 of 154
I usually test as an INTJ but have also tested as an INSJ and an INTP.
I think this has something to do with nature vs nurture. Or what I'm doing with my life. In some of the careers I've had I have needed to be more strident and detached to get through the day.
post #20 of 154
Your Type is INTJ

Strength of the preferences %
Introverted 67
Intuitive 12
Thinking 12
Judging 11

You are:
distinctively expressed introvert
slightly expressed intuitive personality
slightly expressed thinking personality
slightly expressed judging personality

Apparently, I am a rational Mastermind. I don't see it, but whatever.
post #21 of 154
My results:


Your Type is
INTJ - Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences % 89 25 62 22

Qualitative analysis of your type formula


You are:
  • very expressed introvert
  • moderately expressed intuitive personality
  • distinctively expressed thinking personality
  • slightly expressed judging personality
---------------------------------------------------------------
Uh, no big surprise here - stereotypical scientist.
post #22 of 154
Quote:
very expressed introvert

I like this one.
post #23 of 154
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Originally Posted by lightgreen22 View Post

Intp

Same here, although I've tested as ISTJ before as well.

"INTPs (Architects) are pensive, analytical folks. They may venture so deeply into thought as to seem detached, and often actually are oblivious to the world around them.

"Precise about their descriptions, INTPs will often correct others (or be sorely tempted to) if the shade of meaning is a bit off. While annoying to the less concise, this fine discrimination ability gives INTPs so inclined a natural advantage as, for example, grammarians and linguists.

"INTPs are relatively easy-going and amenable to almost anything until their principles are violated, about which they may become outspoken and inflexible. They prefer to return, however, to a reserved albeit benign ambiance, not wishing to make spectacles of themselves.

Mathematics is a system where many INTPs love to play, similarly languages, computer systems--potentially any complex system. INTPs thrive on systems. Understanding, exploring, mastering, and manipulating systems can overtake the INTP's conscious thought...."

Famous INTPs: Keirsey himself, Gregory Peck, James Madison, Charles Darwin, and Thomas Jefferson
post #24 of 154
INTP. About ten years ago, my Dad gave me a very, very long version of this exam from some book he was reading. At that time, I was INTJ, but just barely. This test ranks my P value at 44%, which is described as "moderately expressed" but seems pretty solid to me. My N has slipped quite a bit, however; it's at 25%. Maybe I'm becoming more easy going as I get older? The I and T remain "very" and "distinctively" expressed.

I find lilybelle's profile intriguing. She seems to be mostly introverted, but otherwise what could be considered "well-rounded" perhaps.
post #25 of 154
i'm ENFP apparently:

(http://typelogic.com/enfp.html for further insight)

the prose-type profiles by Heiss and Butt are stunningly accurate. how interesting!
post #26 of 154
Actually, the most accurate profile of my personality is the one typically ascribed to my zodiac sign - pisces. It's spooky how spot on it is!
post #27 of 154
Thread Starter 
Well, MBAnderson61, should we get to bossin' now? Or later? Any INTJs want to join us in our world domination plot? You'll be responsible for dastardly inventions to subdue the populace!

Of the people who have posted so far, I had reckoned both Odysseum and An_Oud_Girl were the types they ended up being. Also not surprised that Snafoo the Scientist is and INTJ.
post #28 of 154
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Originally Posted by LedByMyNose View Post

Well, MBAnderson61, should we get to bossin' now? Or later? Any INTJs want to join us in our world domination plot? You'll be responsible for dastardly inventions to subdue the populace!...

Hold on just one minute - I want to help with the bossing around! I have taken this inventory multiple times and I always come out ENTJ. My husband calls me, among other things, "The Field Marshal." (How flattering is that - snicker snicker?!).

I do think I'm getting a little less "E" as I get older, and I can identify with part of the INTJ profile.

This stuff is fun, I and I believe it helps one be more understanding of the other types.
post #29 of 154
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Originally Posted by Nukapai View Post

Well, that then immediately makes you a special *CBFA type, of which there are 89% of the population.



*Can't Be Fucking Asked


How dare you speak to me like that, I'll turn you every which way but loose Do it again

OK, I took it again.



Same as the first time,it's still a false positive
post #30 of 154
I haven't re-taken it yet - this is what I was in the workplace-administered test years ago...

ENTP

Creative, resourceful, and intellectually quick. Good at a broad range of things. Enjoy debating issues, and may be into "one-up-manship". They get very excited about new ideas and projects, but may neglect the more routine aspects of life. Generally outspoken and assertive. They enjoy people and are stimulating company. Excellent ability to understand concepts and apply logic to find solutions.

http://www.personalitypage.com/ENTP.html

Ouch. I think this thing pegged my bad side. I'm going to re-write it to say what they really mean...

ENTP

Come up with BS very quickly. Know-it-alls. Argue a lot, and generally into "one-ups-manship". Always looking for something new, and are never "on the job". Talk too much and bossy. Won't leave people alone, and hard to get rid of. They know too much for their own damn good.

Oy-vay!

And I'm like Alexander the Great and Bugs Bunny, too!

Some Famous ENTPs:
Alexander the Great
Confederate General J. E. B. Stuart
Sir Walter Raleigh

Fictional:
Mercutio, from Romeo and Juliet
Horace Rumpole, from John Mortimer's Rumpole of the Bailey series
Dorothy L. Sayers's detective Lord Peter Wimsey

A Few More Famous ENTPs
U.S. Presidents:
John Adams, 2nd US president.
[Adams appears to have been competing with
Thomas Jefferson to see who would live the
longest. ("Jefferson surv...")]
James A. Garfield (who could reportedly write Latin
with one hand and Greek with the other, simultaneously)
Rutherford B. Hayes
Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
Thomas Edison
Lewis Carrol, author (Alice in Wonderland)
Julia Child
Suzanne Pleshette
George Carlin
Valerie Harper
John Candy
John Sununu
Weird Al Yankovick
Marilyn Vos Savant
Alfred Hitchcock
Tom Hanks
David Spade
Céline Dion
Matthew Perry, Chandler ("Friends")
Rodney Dangerfield

Fictional Characters:
"Q" (Star Trek--The Next Generation)
Shirley Feeney (Laverne and Shirley)
Bugs Bunny
Wile E. Coyote
Garfield the cat
post #31 of 154
I used to test ENFP, but now I test INFP. I have become more introverted with age.
post #32 of 154
Tested as ENTJ years ago.
Must do this test again, just to see if I've changed.

ENTJ again.
Let's rule the world, LedByMyNose. Reminds me of Pinky and the Brain.
post #33 of 154
ISFJ ~ slightly on all
post #34 of 154
Oh, and I am an Artist
post #35 of 154
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Originally Posted by tang View Post

Same here, although I've tested as ISTJ before as well.

"INTPs (Architects) are pensive, analytical folks. They may venture so deeply into thought as to seem detached, and often actually are oblivious to the world around them.

"Precise about their descriptions, INTPs will often correct others (or be sorely tempted to) if the shade of meaning is a bit off. While annoying to the less concise, this fine discrimination ability gives INTPs so inclined a natural advantage as, for example, grammarians and linguists.

"INTPs are relatively easy-going and amenable to almost anything until their principles are violated, about which they may become outspoken and inflexible. They prefer to return, however, to a reserved albeit benign ambiance, not wishing to make spectacles of themselves.

Mathematics is a system where many INTPs love to play, similarly languages, computer systems--potentially any complex system. INTPs thrive on systems. Understanding, exploring, mastering, and manipulating systems can overtake the INTP's conscious thought...."

Famous INTPs: Keirsey himself, Gregory Peck, James Madison, Charles Darwin, and Thomas Jefferson

I'm an INTP as well
post #36 of 154
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Originally Posted by Quarry View Post

Hey, Dimitri! I'm an INFJ, too.

That's beating the odds, isn't it? Given that "Counselors are scarce, little more than one percent of the population."

Hey, Dimitri! I'm a graphic designer, too! I do magazines.

Introverted/11
Intuitive/75
Feeling/12
Judging/67

Thats nuts isn't it Quarry?!
2 designers, and 2 INFJs!

A rare breed indeed! Here were my percentages...

Introverted: 22
Intuitive: 40
Feeling: 100
Judging: 38

It also states that INFJ's are likely to experience psychic phenomena more than other personality types. This is a true statement for me... you?
post #37 of 154
I'm an architect
Quote:
Architects need not be thought of as only interested in drawing blueprints for buildings or roads or bridges. They are the master designers of all kinds of theoretical systems, including school curricula, corporate strategies, and new technologies. For Architects, the world exists primarily to be analyzed, understood, explained - and re-designed. External reality in itself is unimportant, little more than raw material to be organized into structural models. What is important for Architects is that they grasp fundamental principles and natural laws, and that their designs are elegant, that is, efficient and coherent.
Architects are rare - maybe one percent of the population - and show the greatest precision in thought and speech of all the types. They tend to see distinctions and inconsistencies instantaneously, and can detect contradictions no matter when or where they were made. It is difficult for an Architect to listen to nonsense, even in a casual conversation, without pointing out the speaker's error. And in any serious discussion or debate Architects are devastating, their skill in framing arguments giving them an enormous advantage. Architects regard all discussions as a search for understanding, and believe their function is to eliminate inconsistencies, which can make communication with them an uncomfortable experience for many.
Ruthless pragmatists about ideas, and insatiably curious, Architects are driven to find the most efficient means to their ends, and they will learn in any manner and degree they can. They will listen to amateurs if their ideas are useful, and will ignore the experts if theirs are not. Authority derived from office, credential, or celebrity does not impress them. Architects are interested only in what make sense, and thus only statements that are consistent and coherent carry any weight with them.
Architects often seem difficult to know. They are inclined to be shy except with close friends, and their reserve is difficult to penetrate. Able to concentrate better than any other type, they prefer to work quietly at their computers or drafting tables, and often alone. Architects also become obsessed with analysis, and this can seem to shut others out. Once caught up in a thought process, Architects close off and persevere until they comprehend the issue in all its complexity. Architects prize intelligence, and with their grand desire to grasp the structure of the universe, they can seem arrogant and may show impatience with others who have less ability, or who are less driven.
Albert Einstein as the iconic Rational is an Architect
Dr. David Keirsey, Robert Rosen, George Soros, Gregory Peck, James Madison, Ludwig Boltzman, Charles Darwin, Adam Smith, and Thomas Jefferson" /> are examples of the Architect Rationals
post #38 of 154
I always used to be INTP.
Seems to fit with OCD-like tendencies and obsessive nerdiness quite nicely.
post #39 of 154
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Well, MBAnderson61, should we get to bossin' now? Or later? Any INTJs want to join us in our world domination plot? You'll be responsible for dastardly inventions to subdue the populace!

Looks like a couple of others joined the party. Welcome aboard Haunani! Funny, I was more introverted when I was younger. It's not that I seek out parties and crowds. I just like people and I was shy and lacked confidence when I was younger.

Hi Dimples. Once an ENTJ, always an ENTJ?

I also find debbborra's comments interesting. I too believe that one's career and life circumstances can influence the outcome. I found myself thinking about some of the questions in the context of what I "do" in situations as opposed to what I would "like to do". As debbborra put it, some jobs caused her to be "more strident and detached". My workplace is fraught with situations in which I have to motivate people to do things that make little sense to them. How much of my personality is "me" and how much is imposed?
post #40 of 154
I'm ISFJ = "THE NURTURER" ~ along with Night & ChantillyLace!

Funny too, that I recently observed ChantillyLace having similar fragrance preferences! Fun!
post #41 of 154
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i'm ENFP apparently:

(http://typelogic.com/enfp.html for further insight)

the prose-type profiles by Heiss and Butt are stunningly accurate. how interesting!

Welcome, I'm glad to see another ENFP. And yes, I found those profile notes amazingly accurate. They suggested parts of my self I hadn't acknowledged!
post #42 of 154
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... Funny, I was more introverted when I was younger. It's not that I seek out parties and crowds. I just like people and I was shy and lacked confidence when I was younger.

I also find debbborra's comments interesting. I too believe that one's career and life circumstances can influence the outcome. I found myself thinking about some of the questions in the context of what I "do" in situations as opposed to what I would "like to do". ...

Good points, I can relate. I probably was a borderline I/E FP, but maturing and also being in a profession (teaching) where I appear in front of groups and have to motivate and interest them has tipped the scales to E. The developmental aspect. Anyone else noted a shift in their profile?
post #43 of 154
I am ENFP (Champion Idealists), like odyseum and isthepens. Even though I on't like everything I read there I think it describes me pretty well. I tried my best to be honest, but how can you be sure you don't just answer what you imagine/want your personality to reflect?
post #44 of 154
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Thats nuts isn't it Quarry?!
2 designers, and 2 INFJs!

A rare breed indeed! Here were my percentages...

Introverted: 22
Intuitive: 40
Feeling: 100
Judging: 38

It also states that INFJ's are likely to experience psychic phenomena more than other personality types. This is a true statement for me... you?

I wish! The only thing I think I'm somewhat intuitive about is timing--how long before or when a change may be imminent. I wonder what makes INFJs so rare. I'd attributed my differences to having been raised under odd circumstances, but maybe it's a bit more genetic than that. I'm happy being whatever it is we are -- and you?
post #45 of 154
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I'm an architect

Awww, the architect of our happy, Wallace-and-Gromit-style home.
post #46 of 154
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I wish! The only thing I think I'm somewhat intuitive about is timing--how long before or when a change may be imminent. I wonder what makes INFJs so rare. I'd attributed my differences to having been raised under odd circumstances, but maybe it's a bit more genetic than that. I'm happy being whatever it is we are -- and you?

Im very pleased being me too
Also have been raised under odd circumstances (a leetle bit of an understatement)... will the similarities ever end?
Im not sure what makes our type so rare... I was going to say its not bad knowing I'm not alone... but I wonder if that need to be with others is just my INFJ traits coming to the fore!
I could lie awake and dwell on this all night *sigh*
post #47 of 154
Another "Mastermind" and INTJ here.
post #48 of 154
Interesting, Petruccijc and SilverBullet that the three of us are ESFJ and we all live in Florida. Could it be the weather??
post #49 of 154
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Interesting, Petruccijc and SilverBullet that the three of us are ESFJ and we all live in Florida. Could it be the weather??

Maybe somethin' in the water
post #50 of 154
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Also have been raised under odd circumstances (a leetle bit of an understatement)... will the similarities ever end?

Okay, you've piqued my interest. Some of my upbringing oddities -- Only child of elderly parents: mom 43, dad 61 when I was born, both had physical handicaps but sharp brains (Dad was an inventor). All of us are/were Geminis (if anyone gives horoscopes credence). Never lived in regular house architecture: first a barn, then a schoolhouse, then another barn, then back to the school.

Regarding the ESFJ Floridians: Maybe that personality type is drawn to equatorial climes?
post #51 of 154
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Okay, you've piqued my interest.

Well, mine is a bit random actually... was also born an only child, snatched by one parent and raised far from my birthplace without any contact with the other parent. Whilst raising me, this parent married (and divorced) 5 times; thus I moved house / school CONTINUOUSLY; then discovered at age 11 that in fact I had 2 older half-siblings (and thus became the "baby" of the family); then I finally made contact with the other parent at age 22 and found I had 2 younger half-siblings (and thus became the "middle child"). Identity-crisis anyone??? lol!

Everyone has their own story, Im sure!
post #52 of 154
My Type is--INTJ
I am:
* moderately expressed introvert
* distinctively expressed intuitive personality
* moderately expressed thinking personality
* moderately expressed judging personality
post #53 of 154
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Hold on just one minute - I want to help with the bossing around! I have taken this inventory multiple times and I always come out ENTJ. My husband calls me, among other things, "The Field Marshal." (How flattering is that - snicker snicker?!).

Yes, my boyfriend can often be found referring to me as 'the General' or, in response to a request, saluting facetiously and shouting "YES MA'AM!". So, Haunani, you and Dimples are added to our brigade. Let's start with the bossin'.

Non-facetiously, I have to say I fit the ENTJ profile very well, although I do find myself unflattered by descriptions a lot. I'm not a social idiot - I don't know if this is the strongly expressed 'E' in me or what, but I am fairly capable of social finesse. Maybe the ENTJ part is not always seeing it as necessary? In a work situation, or in any situation where a specific job needs to get done, I have to admit caring about people's feelings is not my #1 priority. It's also very difficult to offend me, which is another ENTJ trait. Even on this board, when hurt feelings arise, often from disagreements in taste, I never really get *why* the feelings are hurt.

Grant is an Architect - who is not surprised?!

Ubu, also no surprise with you being a Nurturer. It makes me laugh because I often find myself reading your posts and just thinking to myself "damn, being a good person all the time must be an effort" - but it's just how you are, isn't it? I notice you are always kind and welcoming and try to include people. That sort of thing doesn't come naturally to me, I have to do it consciously.

Maybe Ubu should join our brigade in a Deanna Troy from Star Trek kind of role? We do the bossin', she counsels the people we've bossed, so they feel better.
post #54 of 154
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How dare you speak to me like that, I'll turn you every which way but loose Do it again

OK, I took it again.



Same as the first time,it's still a false positive

LOL LOL LOL!
post #55 of 154
I haven't done the test in a while, but last time I was INTJ.
post #56 of 154
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Well, MBAnderson61, should we get to bossin' now? Or later? Any INTJs want to join us in our world domination plot? You'll be responsible for dastardly inventions to subdue the populace!

Of the people who have posted so far, I had reckoned both Odysseum and An_Oud_Girl were the types they ended up being. Also not surprised that Snafoo the Scientist is and INTJ.

Allrighty!

It's nice to see that I've finally moved on to doing what I should be doing (and the typing tool seems to agree); my job covers it all - and I do bits even outside of it just to keep gulping in knowledge.

But a bit of world domination won't go amiss.

Where's Councillor Troy? Let's hop to it!

ALSO - don't know if any of you have heard of the "Strengths Finder" - it's a useful tool if you're feeling like a round peg in a square hole and want to find what you should be aiming for. My profile helped me several years ago to figure out what I should do. It also confirmed that I wasn't "odd" in so much as just particularly strategic, focused and so on. And the tool re-branded my impatience as "Activator", which was also very nice of it.
post #57 of 154
I often find a few questions in these tests that I could answer either way (after all, being an INTP, I "spend considerable time second-guessing [myself]"). "The open-endedness (from Perceiving) conjoined with the need for competence (NT) is expressed in a sense that one's conclusion may well be met by an equally plausible alternative solution, and that, after all, one may very well have overlooked some critical bit of data." So yeah, I guess that explains why I can make a case for answering both "yes" and "no" on several questions.

LBMN, I'll be in the back, helping to design your world domination website. (And no, I won't be manning the phonelines, dammit.)
post #58 of 154
ISTJ: Herbert Hoover, Harry S. Truman, Kirk Douglas, Clint Eastwood, Greta Garbo

Going to see Gran Torino this week because it's a CE movie.
post #59 of 154
INTP

slightly expressed introvert 11
slightly expressed intuitive personality 12
moderately expressed thinking personality 50
moderately expressed perceiving personality 33
post #60 of 154
Ah, the joys of self-reported binary personality tests. At least with my INTP, I got compared to David Hilbert. Now if only I had his mathematical genius or visionary outlook. "I give to you the twenty-three unsolved problems that face fragrances today. Ten of them deal with Creed, eight with Kouros, one with longevity, one with sillage and the remaining with attracting women." Sigh...it doesn't quite work, does it?
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