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post #1 of 11
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OK, OK -- it's not politically correct. Not by a long shot. Still, we all have to admit that sometimes we conform to stereotypes about our various identities, origins, communities, family dynamics etc.

True, we may (and very often do) shatter other stereotypes with gusto, thus proving how silly (and even dangerous) stereotypes can be.
Still, once in a while it's fun to admit which stereotypes you fit and just run with it, ya know?

For example:

I'm the youngest of three sons in that a) my older brothers think I was "the spoiled one" while I b) always got bullied/picked on by them (i.e., my older brothers) when we were children.

I'm a sixth generation Oklahoman in that I a) still eat cornbread and buttermilk as "comfort food" when I'm feeling down and out, b) still put ambrosia and iced tea on the sideboard -- even in the middle of winter, c) cringe with revulsion whenever someone mentions The Grapes of Wrath (the novel OR the film version), d) still refer to Oklahoma (as opposed to Texas) as "the right side of the Red River", e) plan almost all my events around a football calendar (one has to here!) and f) don't like to talk too much about my Louisiana blood, and even less so about (!!!) my considerable Texan lineage on Mama's side.

I'm a stereotypical "health nut" when it comes to my trying to get others to at least sample healthy dishes. (No easy feat in a state as carnivorous as my own, believe me. Try taking a tofu stir fry or a roasted nut loaf to a picnic in Idabel, Oklahoma sometime.)

I'm queer as a football bat in that I a) asked for an Easy-Bake oven when I was seven (and was given one!), b) own just about everything Ella Fitzgerald ever recorded, c) once tried to put oregano onto a hot dog during a Boy Scout cook-out when I was nine and d) had a mad crush on Jimmy Somerville when I was in college.

I'm a committed dog man (a.k.a. "dog crazy") to the extent that I a) put my dogs in my last will and testament, even while omitting one of my two brothers, b) genuinely like all dogs better than most humans (my fellow Basenoters the possible exception, granted), c) let my dogs "kiss" me on the face (I even encourage it!), d) keep extensive wardrobes for both my pooches (yes, I admit it, albeit a bit sheepishly) and d) don't mind a little dog hair around the house. (That's why we have vacuum cleaners, folks.)

I'm the son of a clinically diagnosed, severe hypochondriac in that I would rather eat glass and die of the bleeding trots than go to the doctor for anything remotely minor. (I'm not scared of doctors, no, and I DO believe in preventive medicine. I just saw my mother run to the doctor everytime she sneezed -- hence my distinct aversion to unnecessary trips to the doctor's office.)

I'm a stereotypical American in that -- while considering myself fairly well traveled and slightly sophisticated in some regards -- I like my lagers ice cold, my Cokes even colder and my chicken cooked through. (No "blushing chicken" on the Continent for this 'merican, friends. If this somehow renders me a crass philistine from the hinterlands, then so be it.)

OK -- it's your turn. Which stereotypes, if any, might fit you?
post #2 of 11
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Originally Posted by tvlampboy View Post


I'm the son of a clinically diagnosed, severe hypochondriac in that I would rather eat glass and die of the bleeding trots than go to the doctor for anything remotely minor. (I'm not scared of doctors, no, and I DO believe in preventive medicine. I just saw my mother run to the doctor everytime she sneezed -- hence my distinct aversion to unnecessary trips to the doctor's office.)

Actually, avoiding doctors is fairly typical of men from an Anglo background - apparently originally stemming from the notion that if you are sick then God is punishing you - so be ashamed, tell nobody, and take it like a man. This leads to thousands of otherwise preventable deaths occurring every year.

However, I'm from a Mediterranean background and I consider Doctors my best friends - apparently originally stemming from the notion that if you are sick then God is punishing the village - so don't be ashamed, tell everybody, and hopefully the village will mend it's wicked ways and I'll get better. This leads to hundreds of thousands of extra visits to Doctors, than would be the case for those from an Anglo background.
( It helps that my Doctor bulk bills - so that it doesn't cost me anything for consultations, for CT scans, X rays, pathology services - and that he gives me certificates so that I can have a day off work).

Stereotypes? I'm not stereotypical - both in Italy and Australia people can't figure out how with an Italian background I can strongly dislike garlic, tomatos and especially wine - but love my Coke and Pepsi. At University, when all the engineers went down the pub for a beer, I'd have couple too - but eventually switch to my favourite drink and start ordering Fluffy Ducks (Advocaat and Lemonade) or sometimes Shandies (Beer and Lemonade).
Regards,
Renato
post #3 of 11
Oh, I think Grapes of Wrath is a nice novel. I read it with enjoyment.
post #4 of 11
Oh don't I know I was the king of comtempt prior to investigation. I think as I got older and expeienced life situations comparing myself to others and what others thought of me got clearer. I was brought up with 3 other brothers/ no sisters in a strict Roman Catholic household. My Father died when I was 12 and my oldest brother took over the father role (very confusing to me). Regardless of my (good upbringing) I became a renegade, causing a lot of trouble everywhere I went..well any how I turned out to be a law abiding upstanding (not pillar) member of the community. Some consider me a very effeminate man, because I take care of my personal hygeine, cry sometimes, very caring to people of lesser circumstances. I've had people ask if I'm a lawyer, MD, or even a cop. Ha. See what I mean. When I tell them a little of my past there SHOCKED. How could such a nice looking, well mannered man have been there. Well, I was. When some people find out I teach and compete in the martial arts they remark that I don't look like I'm a "karate man", I invite them out back for a little two step action Naw, just kidding. My point is, I work on not making preconcieved judgements everyday and getting better at it. I have NO idea what someone's life has been like, and I should never forget that
post #5 of 11
I am the late-life son of a woman who was periodically clinically depressed and explosively violent and was without drugs or treatment for those ailments all her life. She was the 3rd of 6 first generation Irish and she and her 3 brothers and two sisters are now deceased. I have a living sister 9 years my senior and a deceased half-sister from my fathers first marriage.( His first wife died in the great Flu epidemic in 1919)

My father was 45 when I was born. He was the only son and of German/Dutch ancestry. His father lived to 97 and told me of his memories of his grandfather, (they overlapped by 7 years) who was born in 1799, my grandfathers great great grandfather arriving in the US in 1720 from the Palatinate in Germany.

My father passed away at age 53 from a pharmaceutical drug side effect which induced leukemia while he was being treated for pneumonia. In contrast to my mother he was quiet, non-violent and stable.

I was born in NYC, lived there and in various places in New Jersey until my family relocated to south Florida when I was in 2nd grade.

I have worked part or full time since my first paper route at age 9, served in the Marine Corps Reserve, went through formal 4 year IBEW electrical apprenticeship, worked as a Journeyman Inside Wireman, nightschooled my college and was accepted to professionaL school at age 30, wife and 5 children in tow. The kids are all grown and out of the house. I have 5 grandsons 9 or under, 4 from my second daughter and one from my only son.

I live a relatively simple and peaceful life (fragrances excepted!) believe in the ultimate value of even small things so I repair what I can, buy used when practical and green when possible,. I try to eat healthily, don't exercise enough, have 4 inside cats, work a 4 day week now and am living separately from my wife.

I thnk many of us humans living today have for the most part forgotten that we are just temporary stewards of this earth and seem to be living as though we are the last (only) generation that counts.

I love classical music (Vivaldi, Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin, Brahms, Rachmaninov in particular), opera (Mozart, Bellini, Wagner), Rilke and Rumi, inexpensive but great wines (vintage Oporto excepted from the 'inexpensive'), impromptu cooking of gormet meals at home and I play a mean blues harp. I am no Schachman but I did win the county chess championship in 1967.

I feel as though my life represents a sterotypical slice of middle America in that with work, determination and a few good breaks along the way an individual can achieve some of his/her dreams.

Oh, and I love cologne!
post #6 of 11
Let's see.......I'm 52, Italian,born / raised in Philly and as Italians usually go, I was brought up Roman Catholic and went to parochial school. In our house, there was the perennial collage picture of President Kennedy, The Pope and Jesus. There was also numerous Elvis pictures and knick-knacks strewn throughout the place. Pasta was so prevalent that newborns in the family got pureed macaroni instead of Gerber's baby food. To this day, I can eat pasta 5 nights out of 7 and alot of it too. Thankfully, my wife "Sweet Pea" is mostly German and my waistline is spared ( somewhat) from the Italiano curse of resembling a middle aged bowling ball.

I'm the oldest of 4 and my father left when I was 12 years old. I was already a borderline bad kid in spite of the major league butt whoopins he gave......and from 12 until adulthood, I was someone you would choose to avoid if you had any sense.

At any rate, I'm your "cliched" Italian from back east I guess. The accent, the hand gestures, the temper, etc.....I have been blessed in spite of myself all these years and especially now ,due to having someone in my life who literally makes me a better person than I would be on my own.
post #7 of 11
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Let's see.......I'm 52, Italian,born / raised in Philly and as Italians usually go, I was brought up Roman Catholic and went to parochial school. In our house, there was the perennial collage picture of President Kennedy, The Pope and Jesus. There was also numerous Elvis pictures and knick-knacks strewn throughout the place. Pasta was so prevalent that newborns in the family got pureed macaroni instead of Gerber's baby food. To this day, I can eat pasta 5 nights out of 7 and alot of it too. Thankfully, my wife "Sweet Pea" is mostly German and my waistline is spared ( somewhat) from the Italiano curse of resembling a middle aged bowling ball.

I'm the oldest of 4 and my father left when I was 12 years old. I was already a borderline bad kid in spite of the major league butt whoopins he gave......and from 12 until adulthood, I was someone you would choose to avoid if you had any sense.

At any rate, I'm your "cliched" Italian from back east I guess. The accent, the hand gestures, the temper, etc.....I have been blessed in spite of myself all these years and especially now ,due to having someone in my life who literally makes me a better person than I would be on my own.

I'll split a cannolo with you anytime
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I'll split a cannolo with you anytime

Jacko....sounds good bro, but it may hinder that viciously high leg kick you have. IF I tried that, my hamstring would pop like an old guitar string.
post #9 of 11
Our circumstances and life experiences certainly shape us! Not to mention, our mothers and fathers whom in their presence/absence carve the deepest marks.

Chicago (and it's surrounding area) is ethnically diverse, with neighborhoods still to this day somewhat exclusive to a particular nationality. Along with Chinatown there is Greektown, Little Italy, Ukrainian Village, Brighton, Pilsen, and the list goes on. In living here, I've noticed there is an extreme interest in a persons ethnicity. Once your ethnicity is divulged, you are categorized - which basically means stereotyped! I have never looked at these stereotypes as 'bad' or 'good', simply a characteristic one person may have within them due to their upbringing. Stereotypes are born from truths. I think they can be harmful when people use them to limit their perception of others, or themselves.

The Bond No.9 range of fragrance has built itself somewhat on 'stereotypes', and is fun to experience because of that fact. This is one example of stereotypes being used/percieved in a positive fashion. It's an interpretation. An opinion. Some of us agree, and some of us don't.

Interesting thread!
post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by AromiErotici View Post

Jacko....sounds good bro, but it may hinder that viciously high leg kick you have. IF I tried that, my hamstring would pop like an old guitar string.

Don't worry Bro, that photo was taken 2 years ago when I was 54 I'll show you what I can do 2 years later today during my regular workout In addition, I only use moves when I absolutely have to, when my life or a loved one is in dire straights. It was designed to shatter the opponent's collarbone...ooops I got carried away...now what about those cannoli
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Don't worry Bro, that photo was taken 2 years ago when I was 54 I'll show you what I can do 2 years later today during my regular workout In addition, I only use moves when I absolutely have to, when my life or a loved one is in dire straights. It was designed to shatter the opponent's collarbone...ooops I got carried away...now what about those cannoli

Damn......you have me thinking about Italian pastries and I don't live in Philly anymore.....but my family still does.

I can either have them ship me some, but they'd be stale by the time I got them.....OR.....I can search for a gourmand that smells like fresh canoli.
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