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Niche poll

Poll Results: favorite house - Feb 2009

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 5% (15)
    Tauer Perfumes
  • 2% (7)
    Mazzolari
  • 2% (6)
    Profumum
  • 6% (18)
    Parfumerie Generale
  • 3% (9)
    Knize
  • 0% (0)
    M. Micallef
  • 1% (4)
    Bois 1920
  • 3% (9)
    Santa Maria Novella
  • 4% (14)
    Lorenzo Villoresi
  • 12% (37)
    Creed
  • 3% (10)
    The Different Company
  • 11% (35)
    Guerlain
  • 4% (14)
    Hermes
  • 10% (31)
    Serge Lutens
  • 3% (11)
    Czech and Speake
  • 2% (7)
    Amouage
  • 2% (6)
    By Kilian
  • 5% (16)
    Maitre Parfumeur et Gantier
  • 7% (23)
    L’Artisan Parfumeur
  • 9% (28)
    Comme des Garcons
300 Total Votes  
post #1 of 55
2/10/09 at 11:15am
Thread Starter 
well, since Afra is no longer taking ownership of this...i think it's about time we sit back and see which house is emptying our wallets most recently...

Im sure i have missed out on lot. if so, pls comment...
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post #2 of 55
2/10/09 at 11:16am
eh? i'm confused.

PLS DELETE!

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post #3 of 55
2/10/09 at 11:23am
Can we choose more than one or just 1 favorite house? Is Bois 1920 a house or just a frag from seperate house?
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post #4 of 55
2/10/09 at 11:26am
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by silverbullet View Post

Can we choose more than one or just 1 favorite house? Is Bois 1920 a house or just a frag from seperate house?


yes sir! we can!! it's cruel to ask any Bner to name one fav house even everso cant name one

Bois 1920 is a house. however, the very same perfumer has a different perfume house which goes by the name Odori.
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post #5 of 55
2/10/09 at 11:29am
sorry but... dont you guys consider Caron as a niche house?
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post #6 of 55
2/10/09 at 11:34am
Sorry, but had to choose Creed (don't hurt me). I like three of their scents a lot: Erolfa, Silver Mountain and Millesime Imperial, more than the other houses that I've tried, and they garner a lot of compliments. Also, the rest of their scents are pretty average, in the sense that they are not repulsive (which I find faults with in the other niche houses).
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post #7 of 55
2/10/09 at 11:34am
Guerlain? Niche?
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post #8 of 55
2/10/09 at 11:37am
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Originally Posted by rex View Post

Guerlain? Niche?

I'd think so. They certainly meet the quality requirements.
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post #9 of 55
2/10/09 at 11:38am
Thread Starter 
i forgot to add chanel
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post #10 of 55
2/10/09 at 11:39am
Is Hermessence a fragrence made by the house of Hermes, or are they two seperate houses?
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post #11 of 55
2/10/09 at 11:40am
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Originally Posted by jenson View Post

i forgot to add chanel

You would consider Chanel niche?
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post #12 of 55
2/10/09 at 11:41am
I went for Serge Lutens... but it's a close one. There are SO many niche houses I love out there ( some of them not on the poll ).
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post #13 of 55
2/10/09 at 11:44am
I own 5 big bottles from L'Artisan and have some backups for a few as well. I have bought 2 Serge Lutens bottles as well. I can see Czech and Speake and Comme des Garcons emptying my wallet pretty easily though.
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post #14 of 55
2/10/09 at 11:45am
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by silverbullet View Post

You would consider Chanel niche?

well Chanle and Dior has some cool stuff going on from time to time...

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Originally Posted by Galamb_Borong View Post

I went for Serge Lutens... but it's a close one. There are SO many niche houses I love out there ( some of them not on the poll ).

pls feel free to quote whats missing!
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post #15 of 55
2/10/09 at 11:46am
Profumum and Comme des Garçons
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post #16 of 55
2/10/09 at 11:50am
no Frederic Malle?

It's so hard to choose just 1
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post #17 of 55
2/10/09 at 11:56am
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mcjra View Post

no Frederic Malle?

It's so hard to choose just 1

seee.. i missed tht one too... and hey you could choose as many as you like..
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post #18 of 55
2/10/09 at 12:28pm
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Originally Posted by jenson View Post

pls feel free to quote whats missing!

Some that come to mind.

Ava Luxe*
Ayala Moriel*
Dawn Spencer Hurwitz
Laura Tonatto
Strange Invisible Perfumes
Sonoma Scent Studio
Michael Storer
Penhaglions
Trumpers
Parfums D'Empire*
Eau D'Italie*

( stars around my favorites )

There are tons more, these are just some that come to mind...
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post #19 of 55
2/10/09 at 12:31pm
I picked two, L'Artisan Parfumeur and Serge Lutens. Between those two, I could probably be set on a wardrobe.
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post #20 of 55
2/10/09 at 12:52pm
Montale ?
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post #21 of 55
2/10/09 at 12:57pm
I'm no engineer, but don't the percentages seem wrong?
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post #22 of 55
2/10/09 at 12:57pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by achanna View Post

Montale ?

darnnnn..i should be arrested for this.... hey...wait! sir Grant allows only 20 options
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post #23 of 55
2/10/09 at 1:44pm
no Montale > why
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post #24 of 55
2/10/09 at 1:49pm
M. Micallef got 0 vote so far - you can replace it with Montale

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Originally Posted by jenson View Post

darnnnn..i should be arrested for this.... hey...wait! sir Grant allows only 20 options
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post #25 of 55
2/10/09 at 1:50pm
knize is winning. obviously.
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post #26 of 55
2/10/09 at 1:58pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by everso View Post

knize is winning. Obviously.


lmao :d
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post #27 of 55
2/10/09 at 2:23pm
Well the vote for one is both hard and easy. For those who know Knize -- and we know who they are -- it is the niche-iest house: hard to get, worth the effort, totally distinctive and great, great juice.

That being said, my distribution is pretty even:
Knize 2
Villoresi 2
Hermes 4
Lutens 1
C & S 1
Creed 3
MPG 2
LAP 2
CdG 3

These are all great houses.
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post #28 of 55
2/10/09 at 2:29pm
Thread Starter 
creed leads the roost with Guerlain and CDG in the 2nd and 3rd palce respectively. a tie between Serge Lutens and Parfumerie generale ! will be very interesting to see the winner...
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post #29 of 55
2/10/09 at 2:52pm
Great topic but tbh i m really surprised with the choices

MY 3 favorite niche are not even in the poll

1. Frederic Malle (for me Une Rose, Iris Poudré, Lys Méditeranée, French Lover (9%), CARNAL FLOWER, Vetiver Extraordinaire and Une Fleur de Cassie are all really bottle worthy. 7 frags that i love in one single niche is a pretty awesome score.
then Montale & Eau d'Italie.

On the other hand there are some really weird choices that probably won t even have two votes, id est notably Santa Maria or Micallef. Also Mazzorali is pretty much a niche known for one single frag.

Since my 3 favs are not here i chose Villoresi, Lutens and The diff. company. They all have at least 4 fragrances (Yerbamate, Uomo, Sandalo, Spezie - Chergui, Daim Blond, Sa maj la Rose, Gris Clair - Rose poivrée, Sel de Vetiver, Bois d'Iris, Bergamot) that are bottle worthy for me. No 88 is one of my top 10 ever but i can t pick the niche (C&Z) for one single fragrance. Same goes for Tauer with two frags that i love, LDDM and Incense Rosé . Almost made it to the top, but the other had at least 4 fragrances so i kept these 3.
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post #30 of 55
2/10/09 at 3:08pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Roc_Xel View Post

Great topic but tbh i m really surprised with the choices

MY 3 favorite niche are not even in the poll

1. Frederic Malle (for me Une Rose, Iris Poudré, Lys Méditeranée, French Lover (9%), CARNAL FLOWER, Vetiver Extraordinaire and Une Fleur de Cassie are all really bottle worthy. 7 frags that i love in one single niche is a pretty awesome score.
then Montale & Eau d'Italie.

On the other hand there are some really weird choices that probably won t even have two votes, id est notably Santa Maria or Micallef. Also Mazzorali is pretty much a niche known for one single frag.

Since my 3 favs are not here i chose Villoresi, Lutens and The diff. company. They all have at least 4 fragrances (Yerbamate, Uomo, Sandalo, Spezie - Chergui, Daim Blond, Sa maj la Rose, Gris Clair - Rose poivrée, Sel de Vetiver, Bois d'Iris, Bergamot) that are bottle worthy for me. No 88 is one of my top 10 ever but i can t pick the niche (C&Z) for one single fragrance. Same goes for Tauer with two frags that i love, LDDM and Incense Rosé . Almost made it to the top, but the other had at least 4 fragrances so i kept these 3.

all worthy suggestions my freind! and i totalyl agree with you. perhaps everyone could mention the scents missing in their post...thank you !
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post #31 of 55
2/10/09 at 3:14pm
You welcome buddy !

I m sorry to say that but I m amazed to see that Creed is no. 1 .
I have nothing against this niche of course, and think that quality is nice, specially the top notes, much less fond of the dry downs. But I can't have decent longevity with this house. And I don't ask for 10 hours, but often after 1-2 hours my Creed is gone...

I still have samples of all the "water" + erolfla + millesime imperial + Himalaya + GIT ... They are all so weakkkkkkkkk and so often very common and without any surprise!!! Also the drydown of many of the aforementionned ones is very similar, with this powdery smell.. My samples are sleeping since month with 90% remaining in it (they are 2 or 2.5 ml samples) ... Only BDP gave me decent longevity.

Creed is by far one of the niche that impressed me the less.

Well I guess that s also what is that great and beautiful with the world of perfume, we all have different tastes, even sometimes totally opposite tastes.
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post #32 of 55
2/10/09 at 3:16pm
First of all, to those that questioned it - Hermes and Guerlain have niche lines (and yes, Hermessence is Hermes) - Chanel should have gotten a spot too.

I'm glad to see Santa Maria Novella on the list - they deserve more chatter. i'd have selected Micallef because what I've tried I've liked, but I've only tried 4-5 fragrances and they are VERY expensive.

It is unfortunate only 20 options are permitted... Malle, Montale, Etat Libre d'Orange, Ava Luxe all deserve a spot on the list, but I know it's impossible to get them all.
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post #33 of 55
2/10/09 at 8:20pm
There seems to be a lot of confusion about what defines niche. It's very simple. It has nothing to do with subjective traits like quality of ingredients or size of the company or how expensive the fragrances are. It simply defines a company that produces products within a small niche category. In this case, a niche fragrance house is defined as a company that only produces perfume. The category is expanded somewhat here to include lotions, home fragrances, etc. This is opposed to companies that produce clothing, purses, etc. and are more accurately defined as designer houses. They design a wide variety of products, with (at times) a defining house theme or concept. By this definition, which is largely accepted in business and economics, many of the above would more accurately be defined as designer houses (Hermes, Comme des Garcons, etc).
I know some object to this strict definition of "niche." Personally, I like it because it is clearly defined and understandable, with very little gray area.

-Slim
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post #34 of 55
2/10/09 at 8:26pm
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Originally Posted by SlimPickins View Post

There seems to be a lot of confusion about what defines niche. It's very simple. It has nothing to do with subjective traits like quality of ingredients or size of the company or how expensive the fragrances are. It simply defines a company that produces products within a small niche category. In this case, a niche fragrance house is defined as a company that only produces perfume. The category is expanded somewhat here to include lotions, home fragrances, etc. This is opposed to companies that produce clothing, purses, etc. and are more accurately defined as designer houses. They design a wide variety of products, with (at times) a defining house theme or concept. By this definition, which is largely accepted in business and economics, many of the above would more accurately be defined as designer houses (Hermes, Comme des Garcons, etc).
I know some object to this strict definition of "niche." Personally, I like it because it is clearly defined and understandable, with very little gray area.

-Slim


Thanks Slim, that's my conception of "niche" as well
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post #35 of 55
2/10/09 at 8:34pm
I think I misunderstood the poll - I thought it was what we've been giving the most business to in the last month, but I think most here are doing overall thoughts. If only I could vote again
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post #36 of 55
2/10/09 at 8:37pm
No surprise to many of you here, Serge Lutens has been emptying my wallet the most among those listed. Restocked Borneo 1834 and Iris Silver Mist and Serge Noire is at the top my Next list.
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post #37 of 55
2/10/09 at 8:38pm
I voted the same way, jrd4t--based on what I bought in the last month. Plus it says "niche" but has designer houses. I only voted for niche purchases.
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post #38 of 55
2/10/09 at 8:40pm
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Originally Posted by silverbullet View Post

Is Hermessence a fragrence made by the house of Hermes, or are they two seperate houses?

It's part of Hermés.
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post #39 of 55
2/10/09 at 9:07pm
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Originally Posted by bluesoul View Post

It's part of Hermés.


Thanks, I was just a little confused about that
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post #40 of 55
2/10/09 at 9:40pm
There are only a few niché houses available to my country (Vietnam), such as Serge Lutens, Chanel, Guerlain. Anyway my votes go to SL, as I've just received a full jar bottle from my friend in the UK.
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post #41 of 55
2/10/09 at 10:48pm
I know that the difference between "Niche" and "Niche as used within BN" is not a small one, but this selection destroys the rest of that concept by admitting the two houses with the longest line of perfumes since god knows when, and excluding véritable niche like Malle, Caron, or Montale. I had to look twice to believe that!

Top runners: the two houses which offer a multiple of what all others do - who's surprised?

That said, I love polls! Thanks for taking that upon yourself, Jenson.
Just beware of the hawks!

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post #42 of 55
2/10/09 at 11:03pm
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Originally Posted by supracuhz View Post

I'm no engineer, but don't the percentages seem wrong?

The percentages are calculated by dividing the number of votes a house receives by the total number of voters (not by the total number of votes). Since people can vote for more than one house, the percentages will add up to more than 100%.
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post #43 of 55
2/10/09 at 11:11pm
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Originally Posted by TwoRoads View Post

Since people can vote for more than one house, the percentages will add up to more than 100%.

...which renders the per hundred absurd! But it doesn't have to be that way; one could modify that formula so it makes sense in multiple votes also. (This has been suggested before.)
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post #44 of 55
2/10/09 at 11:20pm
From the list, I chose Parfumerie Generale, SL, and Guerlain.
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post #45 of 55
2/10/09 at 11:22pm
Hmmm... Guerlain and Hermès as niche houses? I always thought of them as more mainstream, but I guess they do share some characteristics of niche perfumery, even according to my own recent definition. Still, I think they both have a more marketing-based, brief-focused approach than what I would call hardcore niche, especially Guerlain since the LVMH takeover but I can see some niche-like aspects in both of them.

In any case, since you listed them in your poll choices, and I admire many of their scents greatly, I voted for them...
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post #46 of 55
2/11/09 at 12:33am
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Originally Posted by TwoRoads View Post

The percentages are calculated by dividing the number of votes a house receives by the total number of voters (not by the total number of votes). Since people can vote for more than one house, the percentages will add up to more than 100%.

Only in basenotes, where the words favorite and best is plural.
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post #47 of 55
2/11/09 at 12:39am
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Originally Posted by supracuhz View Post

Only in basenotes, where the words favorite and best is plural.

lol... fer sure! It's one of the things I love about Basenotes logic: it's not too linear... That's a good thing!
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post #48 of 55
2/11/09 at 1:15am
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My additional votes go for these brands - Chanel's Les Exclusifs, Clive Christian and Bond 9!
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post #49 of 55
2/11/09 at 1:26am
It's easy for me to name three; one, two or four would be impossible.

Lorenzo Villoresi, Maitre Parfumeur et Gantier and Czech & Speake.
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post #50 of 55
2/11/09 at 1:38am
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Originally Posted by Basteri View Post

sorry but... dont you guys consider Caron as a niche house?

I agree with Basteri. Where is CARON ????
Also where is Annick Goutal, Divine, etc ????
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post #51 of 55
2/11/09 at 2:20am
bathing in Le Maroc for warmth
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post #52 of 55
2/11/09 at 3:38am
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Originally Posted by ROBERTO View Post

I agree with Basteri. Where is CARON ????
Also where is Annick Goutal, Divine, etc ????

we have top notch lawyers in our forum...so, sue me !
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post #53 of 55
2/11/09 at 3:41am
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Creed & Guerlain lead! with CdG taking second place closely followed by Serge lutens.
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post #54 of 55
2/11/09 at 6:36am
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Originally Posted by narcus View Post

...which renders the per hundred absurd! But it doesn't have to be that way; one could modify that formula so it makes sense in multiple votes also. (This has been suggested before.)

I look at it differently.

The current method allows a person who voted for only one house to have as much weight in that house's 'favorability percentage' as a person who voted for many houses. To alter the calculation so that it added up to 100% would significantly dilute the impact of the single-house voter.
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post #55 of 55
2/11/09 at 7:50am
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Originally Posted by JaimeB View Post

lol... fer sure! It's one of the things I love about Basenotes logic: it's not too linear... That's a good thing!

Bahaha, great thing to read this morning. Cheers.

And the problem with Niche threads is invariably people become indignant that their favorite was left out.
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