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Vanilla: source Madagascar, from biologically grown vanilla pods by means of ethanol extraction. I diluted initially at about 10% in grain alcohol, then I upped the concentration a little bit. The extrait is dark brown, the dilution is light brown and cloudy (not clear). My goodness, this cost me even more than my 10% Rosa Damascena EO - I had no idea vanilla was such an expensive material. But then, vanilla from Madagascar is apparently the best in the world.
This is a wonderful, mouthwatering vanilla with a slight caramel facet. The stronger concentration smells distinctly like whole vanilla pods smell. As it dries down, the imagery is that of an angel cake fresh from the oven which has just been covered by a snowfall of powdered sugar. It speaks of joyful childhood and tender memories. No wonder that its smell has a calming, balancing effect!

Vanilla.Fragrance Oil.: a bit more complex than the vanillin from PBird's package--it smells like vanilla candles I have had in the past, although it is not waxy at all. Light wood, caramel, sugar, whiskey soaked oak, a little boozy. I LOVE natural vanilla--I really miss the smoke, subtle wood and leather which are lacking in the synthetics.

Vanilla: yummy sweetness

Vanilla complex and lovely, boozy stuff, like vanilla extract but an incredibly refined and smoothed out version

Vanilla - Rich, complex. Smells like natural vanilla bean, like sugar cookies in the oven.

Vanilla, absolute, Madagascar, Eden Botanicals The Queen of Deserts. Very sweet. Strong, full, rich aroma. Like the best cooking vanilla one has ever smelled. Complex with caramel and butterscotch undertones. Wonderful.

Vanilla Bourbon
, absolute, CO2, Eden Botanicals Like the above vanilla, only a bit clearer, less complex, and probably more mixable with other notes.

Vanilla: this also could be definitely go right into one of our viennese "torten"! did you make that, LIB? right now i have a vanilla tincture sitting on my shelf and waiting to finished! if it could be anything like that i will be very pleased!

Vanilla: sweet, boozy, light wood, caramel, smoke, leather

Vanilla Fragrant Oil - definitely vanilla. Way stronger than the benzoin. Not so much like vanilla extract - more like perfume-level vanilla. Sort of like a vanilla scent without everything else. My wife thought it was strong. I think I'm going anosmic here.
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Vanilla Bourbon CO2 total extract, Eden Botanicals: Creamy, sweet, woody, with a hint of leather and smoke. With a 26% vanillin content, its density suppresses the richness expected and ends up smelling more 'streamlined'. Solidified, so needs to be diluted - this should allow the extract to open up a lot more.
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Originally Posted by Trebor View Post

Vanilla Bourbon CO2 total extract, Eden Botanicals: Creamy, sweet, woody, with a hint of leather and smoke. With a 26% vanillin content, its density suppresses the richness expected and ends up smelling more 'streamlined'. Solidified, so needs to be diluted - this should allow the extract to open up a lot more.

I have the same substance but I am damned if I know how to use it! How to get it out of the vial for one thing? First I thought it was just dried out, so I added water. Useless. Now I have poured into the vial some ethanol. This might be working. The folks at Eden told me about this complicated process involving heating it and all kinds of other things. That's just too much trouble.

With essential OILS I know what I am doing. Simple. But this stuff! Is the absolute easier to use? is it in alcohol?

Thanks I really don't know where to go to get answers about vanilla.
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I have the same substance but I am damned if I know how to use it! How to get it out of the vial for one thing? First I thought it was just dried out, so I added water. Useless. Now I have poured into the vial some ethanol. This might be working. The folks at Eden told me about this complicated process involving heating it and all kinds of other things. That's just too much trouble.

With essential OILS I know what I am doing. Simple. But this stuff! Is the absolute easier to use? is it in alcohol?

Thanks I really don't know where to go to get answers about vanilla.

Saintpaulia, I think you're going about it the right way. Just add some ethanol or perfumer's alcohol and leave the vial to sit for a day or two, periodically (and gently) shaking the contents. Diluting absolutes via this method is usually more effective than with a carrier oil. The problem with heating it is that, once it cools down, you're back to square one if you haven't used it up.
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As it happened, I got a call this afternoon from Meredith at Eden Botanicals. I had written some fairly detailed emails to them about the question I've posted above. She just called me out of the blue and said she thought it would be easier to answer my questions than via email. I was darned impressed! Very responsive to customers.

Well she got me straightened out. The Vanilla Bourbon CO2 extract is soluble in a carrier oil. I tried the alcohol approach before Meredith called and it works OK but I diluted it too much for it to be a very good test. Whereas the Vanilla absolute and oleoresin do fine in alcohol.

The thing to realize about the CO2 extract is that it will become more liquid and thus more easily managed and worked with if it is heated at a low temperature. Often body heat will do it. If not then a double-boiler set on very, very low. This will allow a pipette to get the extract out of the vial it comes in and into your oil, be that jojoba or coconut, etc.
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Madagascar vanilla is simply the best IMO, even better than that which comes from Reunion Island.
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