Basteri it's funny you mention this. Last year, I was speaking with the SA at my local Saks and mentioned my interest in Black Orchid. He asked me if I would like to try something that was sort of a "masculine Black Orchid", the uniqueness of the truffle accord in BO, with a lot of the florals removed. Of course I said yes, and he proceeded to show me Tom Ford Extreme. And yes, I do see the similarities between the two. However, there is (to me at least) an incredibly gross smoked meat accord suffocating everything else in TF Extreme that ruins it for me.