Originally Posted by iez
I see I have been unclear in my previous posts on my basic assumption that trapping is not
the normal way to hunt beavers, sorry for that. My assumption is based on the fact that it seems to not be done either legally or illegally here. I think the trapper culture is a local problem in north America.
The discussion here has not focused on stopping the use of traps, it has been on banning the use of castoreum.Boycotting castoreum will not do anything to save one single beaver from inhumane treatment, it's only an excuse to feel self righteous if you don't go to the bottom of the problem i.e. the use of traps.
If you feel upset from this video, you should do something about the primitive local culture that condones trapping, boycotting fragrances using castoreum is just silly, unless you're a convinced vegetarian or vegan.
I will happily keep using castoreum in the future, castoreum I get from hunters who shoot
beavers, here they are hunted for their meat (then trapping is useless) or animal control and the hunters happily give the castor glands away for free or almost free, since they don't find them at all valuable and usually just throw them away.
..and now a new revelation...the beavers are eaten
, so the castors are by-products! I now suspect there is an agenda on this thread...are you also a farmer whose farm has been compromised by the activity of dam-building beavers, as well? Or are you actually a beaver hunter or a family member of hunters?
BTW, boycotting is one of the most
effective political tools to create social change and raise awarenesss; it's a form of civil disobedience. In the U.S. the bus boycott of the 1960s gave rise to a major victory in the Civil Rights movement of racial equality (not often a visible issue in an ethnically/racially homogeneous country) and the boycott of vegetable produce in the State of California, led by labour leader Cesar Chavez, gave rise to better working conditions and higher wages for farm labourers. Lastly, gay people in the U.S. made a serious impact upon orange juice growers when their spokesperson, an anti-gay actress, made insulting remarks about their lifestyle--in the end, her professional career and marriage failed and she was declared bankrupt. Karma?
Being conscious of products we buy/use is laudable, but sometimes it is so very hard with some products to know of the ethical source: dolphin-safe tuna where divers carefully monitor fishing nets, non-blood diamonds where human rights are respected, etc. Sometimes one must simply avoid the products altogether.
You infer that you *buy* the castors, albeit for "almost free." However small, there is still the financial incentive to kill the beavers.
I will again quote Nukapai
--it's all about awareness
. Now that I know castoreum can by synthesised as an accord in perfumes, I will enquire about ingredients in perfumes, just as I eschew diamonds and furs. (And in Chinese herbal medicines as well, as some contain animal ingredients.)
In the end, everyone has his own karma.