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post #1 of 28
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This is a rant of some sort as me and the rest of the neighbourhood have been mentally tortured by these people with their noise levels every night. A particular house owner in my neighbourhood has been renting out his property to various kinds of people for the past 15 or so years. Things were all good until recently about 6 months ago when these new tenants, all college/uni students in their late teens/early 20s turned their house into a frat house of some sort.

Every god damm night there are at least 10-15 friends of the tenants hanging out in the garden smoking, drinking and making a hell lot of noise usually late into the night till about 2-3am (including weekdays !) I think we have been tolerant enough because the occasional loud laughter is fine but these guys just can't talk softly for some reason and resort to shouting all night long. I can literally hear the whole conversation from my room and these guys are staying opposite my house, about 3 houses away...that's how loud they are. I don't think anyone has been brave enough to let them know about their undesirable noise levels. Most of the immediate neighbours of that house are old retired folk.

I was thinking of going over and having a chat with them but the idea of confronting 10-15 (maybe drunk) guys at 2am in the morning is not at all safe. They don't seem the reasonable type and I doubt having a word with them will make a difference. They might even make even more noise just to annoy us. Maybe sending and anonymous letter will work but i'm afraid they will just resort to making more noise. I could call the cops but I doubt the cops in my country will entertain this kind of complaints. My folks are telling me to get ear plugs and not to confront those guys because it's not worth the trouble.

What do u suggest I do ?

All I want is a quiet night for once where I can read a book in peace.

Also do share some of your bad experiences with noisy/inconsiderate neighbours.
post #2 of 28
John - I know you are in Malaysia- I think you need to call the police to talk to them or talk to your local council officer to deal with the issue. I wouldn't send letters to these people- they may retaliate.
post #3 of 28
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Originally Posted by mysticknot View Post

John - I know you are in Malaysia- I think you need to call the police to talk to them or talk to your local council officer to deal with the issue. I wouldn't send letters to these people- they may retaliate.

Yes some Malaysians can be very uncivilised.

I guess that is why the other neighbours have not said or done anything about the noise for fear of retaliation. I can't be the only one with super sensitive hearing . I won't be too surprised if some of our cars get scratched, car tyres slashed or some other type of anti social behaviour if we have a word with them or even report to the police.
post #4 of 28
John- I think you must find out who your local council person is and talk to them about it if the police are not a good idea. Do be careful though, I understand your dilemma is highly frustrating. I had some neighbour issues when I lived in London and I certainly have heard about my clients' problems too .

Alternatively, if you have the contact nos. of the people who own the house- you should call them . Best of luck .
post #5 of 28
Do you know the owner/landlord? If you do it may be worth taking the time to explain the problem to him. Chances are the tenants are not keeping the property in good condition given their penchant for partying.
post #6 of 28
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Originally Posted by DocmanCC View Post

Do you know the owner/landlord? If you do it may be worth taking the time to explain the problem to him. Chances are the tenants are not keeping the property in good condition given their penchant for partying.

Honestly I have only seen the owner once. I think he only comes to supervise when there are a change of tenants. I hope to catch him soon though to let him know the situation. Incidentally I walked past that house earlier this morning and the garden is filthy to say the least. Plastic food wrappers, cigarette butts and empty beer bottles all over the garden.

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Originally Posted by mysticknot View Post

John- I think you must find out who your local council person is and talk to them about it if the police are not a good idea. Do be careful though, I understand your dilemma is highly frustrating. I had some neighbour issues when I lived in London and I certainly have heard about my clients' problems too .

Alternatively, if you have the contact nos. of the people who own the house- you should call them . Best of luck .

The problem is they are not my immediate neighbours so we have had little interaction with them or the landlord.

Semester breaks for these guys are the best times for me..I gave never appreciated peace and quite in the dead of night until recently
post #7 of 28
You might have to move
post #8 of 28
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Originally Posted by adonis View Post

You might have to move

LOL no way that's going to happen. My family has been living in this neighbourhood for the last 28 years.
post #9 of 28
John - take pictures of the mess and record the noise level on your cell phone. When you do catch the owner- you'll have evidence. Best not to confront the hooligans next to you though. I think you can report them to the council - that's what one of my clients here, does.

Oh, A Happy Chinese New Year too !
post #10 of 28
Hi Jon,
I have had similar dramas with neighbours in Australia. It really becomes intrusive and nurtures resentment, so take action now.

My best advice is to:

1. Record times and dates in a notebook. Don't overexaggerate, be as accurate as possible. Take photos discreetly of the mess with your camera or phone as mysticknot suggested.
2. Then go to your local police station in person and file a complaint so at very least there is a record on paper of the disturbance. If you are met with indifference, offer to show them your photos and diary.
3. Speak to a few of your neighbours (assuming you know some of them, with your family having lived in the street for 28 years) and see if other tenants are equally as dissatisfied. If so, then as a group of 3 or 4 (not a mob!) pay a visit to the house during the day or at a time when there is no partying going on. You will likely succeed in talking with them when there is no alcohol involved. Tell them that as a community you are concerned at the constant partying and noise levels and that a report has been filed with the police. This will DIScourage retaliation, as they will know that their actions are ALREADY recorded and under scrutiny. Be as polite and courteous and avoid making the discussion a confrontation.

IF the situation does not change, or you find your cars get keyed etc, you have already filed a report and can take the matter further. The police will then take your collective testimony more seriously, and be forced to act upon it.

DO NOT let this handful of people deprive you of your civil liberties. Why should you cower in your bed at 2am, fearful of speaking up?

It can sometimes feel messy "getting involved", but the rewards will by far outweigh the current situation.

Good luck, and please keep us posted!
post #11 of 28
I agree with most of the advice here. I once had a noisy and messy neighbor whose friends always parked in my assigned parking. I called and wrote to the management company several times, called the police several times and eventually had her friends' cars towed because she was not responding to my friendly requests to stop parking in my spot. So, all of this was on record when I later found out that she had not been paying rent with the excuse that the property was "uninhabitable". Needless to say, she was evicted, but it did go to court and took a while to get resolved.
post #12 of 28
I hate to be in your shoes, JoNnY, though of late I've somehow developed the ability to sleep right through construction work and other concrete-shattering activities...

I too wouldn't confront them in person. Get your neighbors to lodge a petition with the local council, with the suggested photos or videorecordings as evidence. And get yourself some good ear plugs.

Alternatively, get yourself invited to these parties and work from the inside...
post #13 of 28
Just how unresponsive are the police in Malaysia? Much of the (good) advice here centers around getting the authorities involved. You stated that they may not care about the first complaint. How many neighbors getting involved, or how many repeated complaints would it take before they took action?

In the meantime, I suggest earplugs. They really are a good solution. I used to live in college dorms with very thin walls, and earplugs saved me.
post #14 of 28
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Originally Posted by LiveJazz View Post

Just how unresponsive are the police in Malaysia?

I've heard of horror stories, being from neighboring Singapore. MANY locals travel to Malaysia frequently, so I've heard my fair share, but haven't (fortunately) encountered police there for any reason.

Maybe Jonny should share it with you in private!
post #15 of 28
What course of action have you decided to take Johnny?
post #16 of 28
Thread Starter 
Here is an update guys,

Last night those guys had some birthday party out in the garden. The noise level was even worse than usual and they partied hard right up to 1230am. This was the last straw for me so I called the police. The cop who took my call informed me another report had been made about the noise levels and a patrol car was en route. A few minutes later I noticed some flashing blue lights. "Yes !" I thought "The cops came". The police had a word with them and left a few minutes later. I though all was good as they seem to dispersing. Fast forward 15 minutes later and they were even making more noise than before the police came. No doubt they were doing this to send us a message that "They don't give a F@*!" and that they are not afraid of the police. I am hoping that those guys won't retaliate anymore against us for calling the police. I can just imagine how bad tonight will be. I won't be shy to call the police again if they continue the noise and intimidate us.

I am very tempted to drive over to that house and blast some techno music from my car speakers to give them a wake up call. I'm certain they are hungover from the drinking last night and won't appreciate the noise LOL.

Come to think of it, this is the first time a report has ever been made about noise levels in my neighbourhood. I really can't wait to see those guys leave for good. I spoke to a few of my neighbours affected by the noise and they just shrugged and told me not to ask for trouble as those guys are certainly capable of that.

Looks like it's time to invest in a pair of earplugs.
post #17 of 28
Yo Johnny; I seriously think the best option for you to take is to have a word with their landlord which will mean he'll tell those kids to clean up their act and stop being so noisy otherwise they get thrown out the house for not obeying their landlords rules. You might want to get other people on your street to have a word with your landlord too so it'll put more pressure on the landlord to take action.
post #18 of 28
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Thank you for all the advice on how to deal with this problem of mine.

@LiveJazz, best for me not to criticize my government here as Malaysia does have the ISA. A few bloggers have been detained the the police without trial for things said on blogs and forums.
post #19 of 28
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Originally Posted by JoNnY 4 View Post


@LiveJazz, best for me not to criticize my government here as Malaysia does have the ISA. A few bloggers have been detained the the police without trial for things said on blogs on forums.

Well I can sure criticize them. Phuuuuttt! (Bronx Cheer)
post #20 of 28
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Originally Posted by Vojskovođa View Post

Yo Johnny; I seriously think the best option for you to take is to have a word with their landlord which will mean he'll tell those kids to clean up their act and stop being so noisy otherwise they get thrown out the house for not obeying their landlords rules. You might want to get other people on your street to have a word with your landlord too so it'll put more pressure on the landlord to take action.

The problem is the landlord has been renting out the whole house for close to 15 years. I have seen him only once or twice in all the 26 years I have been staying in this neighbourhood. My late grandma once told me that he's a arrogant man who keeps to himself and makes no effort to be neighborly. But it is still worth a shot and I'll keep a look out for him.
post #21 of 28
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Originally Posted by JoNnY 4 View Post

@LiveJazz, best for me not to criticize my government here as Malaysia does have the ISA. A few bloggers have been detained the the police without trial for things said on blogs and forums.

The only thing I took away from your story is that you love the police in Malaysia, and that you think they're going an outstanding job!
post #22 of 28
We had a rental unit like that in my neighborhood. Party central until the people who lived on either side of them bought or borrowed large dogs to keep in their back yards. Yeah, it was really annoying there for a bit but after about a week of non-stop barking to drown out the techno hop the party people packed it in and found a new neighborhood to annoy. Not too long after that the dogs mysteriously disappeared.
post #23 of 28
Wow, you're seriously going to just pull your pillow over your head each night? MAN UP Johnny!

Just keep calling the cops and f**k retaliation: they don't know it was you who called unless the police park their vehicle outside YOUR house.

If they pipe up immediately after the cops leave again - CALL THE COPS THEN AND THERE and say "LISTEN!"
My blood boils when I think about you and your neighbours cowering in the shadows. You know you've absolutely no right at all to whine and complain if you choose to be indifferent.
post #24 of 28
You know ,from what I understand about Malaysia- the police are not the most pro active. I feel for you John , I really do. My client suggests you call your local party councillor.
post #25 of 28
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Originally Posted by LiveJazz View Post

The only thing I took away from your story is that you love the police in Malaysia, and that you think they're going an outstanding job!

Thank you very much

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Originally Posted by noirwest View Post

We had a rental unit like that in my neighborhood. Party central until the people who lived on either side of them bought or borrowed large dogs to keep in their back yards. Yeah, it was really annoying there for a bit but after about a week of non-stop barking to drown out the techno hop the party people packed it in and found a new neighborhood to annoy. Not too long after that the dogs mysteriously disappeared.

Would this mean that techno and dogs do not mix well ? LOL

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Originally Posted by Dimitri View Post

Wow, you're seriously going to just pull your pillow over your head each night? MAN UP Johnny!

Just keep calling the cops and f**k retaliation: they don't know it was you who called unless the police park their vehicle outside YOUR house.

If they pipe up immediately after the cops leave again - CALL THE COPS THEN AND THERE and say "LISTEN!"
My blood boils when I think about you and your neighbours cowering in the shadows. Jeez! You've absolutely no right at all to whine and complain if you choose to be indifferent.

We Malaysians are famous for whining and then not doing anything much about it. N.A.T.O = No Action Talk Only
But whenever someone does anything proactive, they get slammed by the same whiners for being too sensitive or busybodies. It's a cultural thing that's very hard to shake off.

Calm down Dimi as not all of us are cowering in the shadows at night. Last night showed that I'm not the only one losing patience and sleep because of those ass!ole*. I'm definitely calling the cops again if they decide to "retaliate" tonight. Make that every night until they decide to show some civilized behaviour.

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Originally Posted by mysticknot View Post

You know ,from what I understand about Malaysia- the police are not the most pro active. I feel for you John , I really do. My client suggests you call your local party councillor.

Tell me about it ! When I called the police last night the officer in charge sounded so nonchalant...as though I was ordering food for dinner ! I miss the good old days when police responded to these kind of things armed with sub machineguns and shotguns LOL.

Good idea as I was looking for alternative methods to solve the problem. I am going to look up for his number soon.
post #26 of 28
Do keep us updated.

Maybe the police won't do much good, but that doesn't prevent you from calling them each and every time those idiots start back up. Maybe eventually they'll get sick of your calls and do something.
post #27 of 28
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Here's another update guys,

It's been a week since I reported to the police about my noisy neighbours and since then things have really good every night. Those guys have not gone totally silent but they seemed to have gotten our message of discontent about their nightly noise making. I think they have actually found another place to hang out every night. There's still the occasional shout and laugh every night but that's no problem for me. Being proactive for once in Malaysia pays off.

So fellow BNers thank you for taking some time to read my rants about my neighbours. I must admit that had it not been for the advice and experiences from you all I wouldn't have been so proactive and made the police report. Terima kasih !
post #28 of 28
Good to hear! I'm glad the situation has improved and wish you luck that it does not happen again.
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